thank you for your heart of the hosts this is not those are surprises this is that we have got the sort of what is happening can all the new man. step 5 year of course lee and what on him and i think you're probably one of these cuts that will fade scoring. when people don't have a. system and it's a 4 day order and i guess. let me add this in and of course this is up there and because of the 'd war it is going to last. quite so often if we are equipped will be is maybe we can see the result of that it would be a good deal so i thought it was in unfortunately that is. mostly ready. afflicted from this water ship there and although.

most of the emotion. there are a. lot. of. the music out there is not the air maybe their front line is or are dead and i think many people many people will agree tried tens of millions are facing disaster but it was president how do you who are appointed you you mentioned 5 years how the fled the country to other countries saudi arabia which is bombing with with british weapons yemen isn't how the the problem here but we cannot say that in fact from 200-2000 their events will start there and therefore at the end and we were in nationality quite often as every as there were in the air in this mission a. lot of those. outcomes of the mission of this it is consensus

and all of those were in that nationality or a bag of buffaloes have signed on the outcomes of all of this that i know of and they have to be committed to that and they have to be glad they're out and that policies and the editor and is. in there going to the club this is the broccoli. then. this is i think there is all of it. that we don't have a lot of or that politico but it was president how do you appointed you you don't agree with him now on the use of drone strikes which president hadi does in fact even the saudis turkey are monic the run the arab coalition in london last week he said there have to be investigations into saudi war crimes is hardly the problem

is it time now for the united nations to abandon putting hardie back in power in yemen they cannot accuse the had the now now we have many she asked and we have to get the government which it will then as a the interest only community when we have tools we have to all stand and not to have brought out the end not. of course but anyway if we want to choose we will choose that because this bears on. and lot is on closer to sharon yeah but that of the militias against that all. out of the lot this is the problem here. and we accept it had the ante and we are now better than election and we. are going to try. i don't

under the situation. they're around that new election maybe another figure so they're pretty to see and elaborate in but i want to know what no one is going to vote no one is going to vote for heidi in a yemeni general election given how he was in saudi arabia the country that is bombing yemen. yes howdy our study out of it to support the head here tool restored by what i had to go back to. that i began to see. but anyway it takes a long look that it has taken 5 years and and so many people that we have have been killed what it would have you made of the trumpet ministration which says and it gave 7 $146000000.00 in aid just in 2019 it's saying we're not going to give any more aid because some of it goes to hooty communities

poor hoody communities britain as well it's saying no more aid maybe it's given hundreds of millions of pounds of aid what do you make of the united states and britain saying no more aid to yemen. really this news it is shocking because there are now you know men in very bad need for assistance for what it is for god they're going to stand a community but anyway this is also it is a lot that much. when what's really. become what should be there. from what they're going to. hear over but anyway i think also that is that is shocking when we when i have the out that. they let their. position they're not. the problem in the m. and. if and when they're cut off. that is really shocking. it is there for every citizen with

a hearing like this of yours where you know the trump says because iran they're allied to the hutus that's why he can't give money that goes to poor women and children in hutu communities in yemen when you know what that was the. misuse of. that and stop the united nation as or is there this if you will this. there are a supporter. of these efforts there. there is that many problems but anywhere so we are sticking above that my duty but they have to be politically needful of these headed. we have to reach that get it could all just on targeting there was a party here in london very expensive party of grover now it's people from the b.b.c. of spoken their arms company party not being party britain

earned. 6.2000000000 pounds in weapons licenses since 2015 and that's what oxfam says do you think britain and the united states they see yemen as a place to earn money from the killing more than to give aid to the people suffering the killing. we hope we hope that the. international there are going to see is this really the laws working on peace process. that will stop or see that witness to the laws employed in water it in a man i should i should actually say it was actually 770000000 pounds of aid from the british taxpayer to yemen and britain says actually the arms sales are good arms sales we have a good arm sales policy here in britain when we send weapons that are bombing your country. we hope we hope that they're go out and. buy out

of this many bad of these. people for it to rebuild the amount because we need a lot of. a lot of money to let it be the county the valley and the county. i mean that helps fight it the question of the air or answer. to this and that's why we want them to all clear the fire and to be at the other and not tool. you know what and what if you don't expect to be going to yemen any time soon i hope that we can get it off there this is us and we'll be back to. my country it'll all be there. with the women we had. actually we out of there in we mostly that in it and we had a we learned from on

a friend. a political background and many of as also there and in the been there were working on that one piece peace process and what we are going to do all after the war was 'd about should i ask i said the britain 8 times more from weapons sales than aid trump is saying no more aid maybe to yemen. saudi arabia do you think saudi arabia is going to cut aid as well obviously saudi arabia has been spending money on british weapons. your mean. i think they are committed to their head the amount of support of the amount. that illusion with saudi arabia it is historic. and we have heard me and my knees before before the war we have many and many many immigrants is that you have there is the . deal. relationship between us out.

there will be equal we know they have fallen dition. but that's not what journalists say on the ground journalists on the ground say there is a hatred of saudi arabia which is why they bombed around co from yemen the saudi oil facilities but ladies and i literally was there and also that he bore that un x. that that is. not to the abilities or. the actual title. i mean it is fighting with the stat it is fight away from their abilities as these it was started by. my county and maybe even iran. but not that well but lots of that was it if i we thought you meant this that a ok iran completely denies that area musher thank you thank you after the break.

we had riots music with boris johnson pushing for tougher sentences cracking down on left wing voices and deporting people of color has anything really changed in the past 100 years of british history we all scored winning alto saxophonist so we took him choose a new album the black apparel explores the legacy of $919.00 a ball coming up about to a going underground. and we're going to fulfill the repeated promises of possible to the people and promise that you know we've all boxed the truth. pretty rough.

now you want to. know. said these companies to protect workers' wages but they got rid of all they don't need workers to keep printing money and say ok well these are the products without you saying we don't make products we will make bad products not fall out of the sky and kill people but we still get the money because to put it into our corrupt crony capitalist shareholders of course we get.

welcome back in part one we heard about the world's worst humanitarian crisis which continues to involve boris johnson's government back home and only in power for a few months johnson has been assailed by critics and campaign groups for perceived tory injustices from deportation of british people of color to regressive law and order policies to the prescribing of progressive groups as terrorist threats the black peril the new album by multi-modal award winning sets off and this soweto kinch looks to the politics of 1919 to fight the establishment of 2020 joins me now it's a way to thanks but i don't have to go and i'm going to get on to the album in a 2nd but the labor leadership debate on television here in britain jeremy corbin outgoing said it was a case of a young white boy with blond hair related doubled in clus a drugs and conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist would they deport that boy or is it one rule for young black boys born in the caribbean and another for white boys born in the us. so it's fired in the leader like that the debate it's just

a few areas but i love the fact this is free wheeling shooting from the hip 2015 jeremy unfettered you'll have to explain to the audience how we can say that boris johnson in any way presumably the guy would want to dabbled in class a drugs conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist i mean this is defamation of our prime minister the beautiful thing the sort of themself has said it michael gove himself has said the half of the front bench of admitted dabbling in class a drugs lost at university was diseased so this is the german court in that we wanted to see more of in the last election frankly and any leader of the labor party any socialist leader is going to have to be a lot more confrontational direct irreverent all those things that we're dealing with in this new click. ok but the government is saying that the deportations of people of color are nothing to do with race or class course or is not to do with it just so happens that there ought to make and then being sort of i mean this is the kind of poppycock gaslighting discussions of race from race that i think most

people of color are being subjected to in the country there's something so overtly and obviously racist that's a dog whistle to most of the country there's still a an error plus a pool deniability about. what we've got to deal with criminality we've got to deal with drug abuse etc when you put these things empirically together then you realise it really has nothing to do with criminality and it's more about signifying to the rest of the country that we represent the interests of a white majority and will do anything to ever voices people's people from countries that we don't agree with lane or the government will completely deny that and i know i mean it would be feel free to talk about it in the context of 1919 all those years ago but we have a more multi-colored cabinet never never had a situation like that and you're talking about racism was a bit in the days of margaret thatcher this is just it i think they like to keep us disc. cussing racism is really superficial most pantomime level and we've had 2

female prime ministers both of them tories and yet living standards for the majority of women the degree of equal pay is still an issue neither premiership did much to advance the interest of true feminism and the same is true with the most diverse cabinet that we've had in history but yet the most center phobic and openly hostile towards immigrants and refugees and so it's a way of brown washing if you like black and brown washing was still empirically the most racist and a phobic and white supremacist. that we've ever had in this country again the governor would deny that never said that you said but as to administration he was in venice to resume not boris johnson or talk to an old style because you have to i mean this might seem quite tender dental here but what the klu klux klan where hoods they don't walk around with a badge saying a member of the klu klux klan and this is all about signification it's all about subtlety and about giving a nod to people who do have those white supremacist views that were on your side

well of course in fact it was the blairite and the blair and labor body the broadly in the 20 or 7 act gordon brown the labor prime minister brought in legislation that allows deportation of people of color in the 1st place so it was a labor prime minister in 1945 clement attlee who described the west indian people people come from the colonies as an incursion so there's a long history of the labor party being complicit with tacit racism so i always want to get straight to the also and just tell me about the likely role of why it has something to do with 919 and how it tells us something in 22 went absolutely the black peril is based on a very real history of race riots that was called race riots that took place 100 years ago in 1900 from liverpool to glasgow cardiff south shields whole areas that i didn't expect enough black people to even have a race riot in my history book what's interesting to me about this moment in 2020 and how it relates to the. 100 years ago is that. juncture where the working

classes seem to be gaining more traction more awareness of commonality of interception at sea when there is a credible challenge to the establishment racism is always funneled out into these communities to basically help people against their natural allies really get on to how you translate that to music sure it will be about protests then what did you make of it when that list propped up of extinction rebellion and all these different groups greenpeace and oh they're going see the terrorist groups on that piece of paper this is the march of creeping fascism really there's no other way to describe it to prescribe certain groups and thoughts as banned as errant is absolutely a sliding scale towards authoritarian fascism. is no the way to call it frankly what i do think though is that they're also preparing the ground for spontaneous insurrection spontaneous rage everyone's just really angry you find this in the

personal interactions you have of people in the train etc and i just feel i do well i guess not just everyone is wired so i think it's important to draw attention to these instances because they hint at the racism the racist superstructure underneath it it's not that i have any beef with a coach driver or trade train driver but it's also to signify to everyone else going through those situations you're not crazy you're not imagining this heightening of racial tension between people and let's step back and analyze this psychosis what psychosis it's been called who's really benefiting from it and has been disadvantaged by it because it's my very strong contention that everybody is being disadvantaged by white supremacy including the supposed white working class you know the way these issues are covered in corporate media which is it's all about the oscars and the bafta is this kind of thing simply you don't have much truck with the the key do. and it should be said malcolm x. never particularly addressed the oscar i don't know why that was or they're not

mutually exclusive i think you can just as well have jay to pink it or you know it was complaining about the lack of diversity but we should always type back to people that my good friend kinda andrew is pointing out that there's a systemic an international racism that means that life outcomes you know infant mortality education housing these are the industries in which we can really measure racism and what racism really means is this because the class dimension is another superstructure which is why debate seems to just be confined to that oh good what if race didn't exist as a construct of people actually understood how engineer and artificial the whole thing the history of race was then we'd naturally find allies with people that we identify with i want thing that i found really key throughout the last election campaign was how they could create a shorthand for alien just venezuela a few of the buzz words and it seems to sum up everything that. we think of as anti

british and. of course this country used to have and we're going as far as 1919 but in the eighty's race today we had the coeditor on who said maybe diane abbott would never even been shattered secretary without a at least a magazine that was putting these in articulating these issues where they are all gone and i believe. that we live in a far more atomized society than we have any point in my in my memory even at the time of the mine destroyed the poll tax riots you know i still remember. very active working men's clubs very active organizations for unity and solidarity of black and asian people students etc because the racism was so offensive and so clear you knew what the enemy was and the fact you had to organize they had to be solidarity and collective action to overcome those things when out of. that thought try. ideal of anyone being able to make it on their own pull themselves up by the

bootstraps has filtered down and cross roots organizations and we no longer feel that need to have collective action and they are mindful of another fact can be pointed out. 1919 marcus garvey had over 6000000 members of the un i a with no facebook no instagram to speak of no phones widely but the conditions of oppression was so clear the material disadvantage was so obvious that we had to organize and i think now would be living under this delusion that things i'm somehow improved because we've had a black president and a few black employees you know i should say the 9091 projects right actually brought down that have to say with the labor leadership going on here lisa nally all these different candidates who weren't really great friends arguably of jeremy corbyn they will be emphasizing their anti-racist and identity politics credentials to take over what corbin has created is the largest socialist movement in west

europe. i say this to many people have discussions about politics with really cut through all the rhetoric all of the ballast all of the. platitudes and what's their voting record what are their policies if you looked into the house that famous image of the vote in the house when the vote was going down around the world and rush scandal just before it was even a scandal only 3 members of parliament turned up to vote against that bill that we know who they were dying john mcdonald in germany who have been everybody else even david levy i think is a fantastic voice against this injustice didn't vote against it when they had the opportunity and that should tell us something really clear about who's that posture who they're like the pope and who actually backs their words with action ok with joe musically let's talk about the music get on the album how we reflect take all the complexity and i have to say you probably do reflect it really well try

musically how did you go about reflect the exotic implicit plex a gene music i mean any pretensions so accurately depicting all the forms of black music that were around a 100 years ago would have been pretentious but i was very inspired by the research that i did there would about read music that you wrote play write music that in some instances i was reconstructing historical music with write music specifically as a piece i wanted to chinle in energy a feeling of terror and excitement that black music has given us historically and still gives us today i find whether it's drill jungle our you know double bass grime all these forms of music that we've innovated here in the u.k. . there's both this powerful revulsion and tara that we seem to enjoy and oh my gosh the young generation are losing their way to the metropolitan police is interested in drill music this is the 1st time in recorded history. had a song banned and were banned from performing it so that's

a worrying precedent prescribing certain forms of music and not other. but also we're fascinated by black culture we want to emulate it and i think it's this tension in britain that we love your reggae love you're called to fall in love everything about you but you think that you think you're going to support drill minister for mayor of london for that made me into a minister need to be build and we've discussed it we've talked up a little bit of the thing that great friend of mine and music pioneer there was pointed out. you know black liberation figures are often global liberation figures because they say if you at the bottom of some suppose that hierarchy can liberate yourselves emancipate yourselves then we all can say thank you thank you and so waiters album the black peril is out now and in a moment he'll play us out with riots music from the album will be back on wednesday ahead of the nevada democratic presidential caucus to talk d.n.c. voter electoral fraud with the diana vote at justice greg lasted till then keep in touch via social media here's a way to can't with write music. this

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