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tv   Going Underground  RT  February 19, 2020 2:30pm-3:00pm EST

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the osgar we discovered that day where the right hand of that there is now you had this film being shown and then done by waddell complete oh is it through my lip pull it does it take film that has no getting of truth in it that had been made only in order to get around it don't women and their family it is the density and britain at the expense of the truth fake media now is an issue that we should all face in order to discover that reality and what is it truly to go and not only in syria but everywhere in the word of course the director for samo which was nominated for an academy award didn't get it would deny that but then what happened to the u.k. mercenary founder of the white helmets or syrian civil defense his body was found it is stumble. and we should discuss serious matters not only if they can use that
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to reach you from istanbul and diploma the light helmets and to from people who are doubting syria and the syrian people it's true fake me go just as a terrorist out of town getting the sudan people with their weapons and with their arguments why doesn't western media come to syria and find out truly what's happening that are thousands of people who they couldn't they say they can't get into syria turkey apparently killed 51 syrian soldiers last week more soldiers on valentine's day what's your message to turkey which of course under article 5 is protected by nato i wouldn't say it didn't keep it out of the chair and begun because there are neighbors who are dead fish people that i will tell you that i do gun was spared all do. steppers to
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a war that has taken place in syria without. without him as allowing all these terrorists the crust the boy does it would have been impossible to make all these terrorist come to syria and now that he has failed in syria he's moving his terrorist or into libya i think that to do down is a very dangerous man because of 2 factors 1st is that he thinks he would restore the autumn an empire and 2nd because he is a muslim brother and he's feeding muslim brotherhood not only in the middle east but also in europe and in asia and i mean what he kind. of the one denies he is supporting al-qaeda or isis die action in your country ovi asli britain announced new sanctions along with the european union on syria what do
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you make of the fact that boris johnson newly elected prime minister said in parliament in the past few days his government britain wants to overthrow president bashar al assad what a test a thought other sanctions against my country illegally they're not going don't want david by they will an otter knew that there are measures taken by they knighted states and by european parliament we are defeating terrorism and because a lot to start that he couldn't section and the western countries do not utopia gondor do not want to acknowledge that all did stand to what syria was that owned a stun and that they were defeated they don't want to acknowledge that did spend billions of dollars and support of terrorism and again just a secular country that did. it's very much like europe i don't know how they can
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pace dead people or would this reality star not stand that difficulty that go on through is nato acting as a proxy for israel because of syria's stand against israel last time in damascus you told me this is not even about president assad this is about destroying the identity of syria itself that it through auction it is that when you see the destruction that has taken place in and it you know that in a way. the old houses that things that are that are classified as human to treasure it is at balad that destruction of the identity of syria and if you link in this to the statement of netanyahu 2 days ago saying that we will prevail and at each end and in the arab you will you
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will conclude as i conclude that what they're doing is trying to destroy the indigenous at people in this region and the whole of dissolving the palestinian problem and prevailing all that of that region and destroying the arab culture of what what is israel more and the last is the alliance that has been made are in the syrian war between it on it out of syria and hezbollah 5 well while the united nations marked local care the u.n. security council complains about a divided security council and we get the media pictures of these women and children. there is rebuilding now i understand going on what do you make of. reconstruction reserve a china is china investing in new reconstruction we wish china and the chinese
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people to 5 the best and the fastest you know victory over this corona but there is not valid doubt that china and russia 6 a lot of partners whole supported us and security council and took the veto in defense of the syrian people they would be dealt and the list and that he called a section of syria and just finally dame catherine pierce the british ambassador to the united nations she has been promoted to become britain's a woman in washington now the ambassador in washington she said you use cluster bombs on all spittles what do you make of a promotion well i think i will ask you a lot to make a funny ambassador saying that out any government i think probably she was promoted to from a british ambassador to the u.n.
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to british ambassador in washington as it is alt. stands again as the sudan government and sudan people but i will tell the british ambassador that had a statement that he'd colonialists to statement we had a fighting for our freedom well that is taboo cian and making a lot of future and day she would have no say and the future of syria dr but then it's about thank you. thank you thanks. after the break is china detaining 1000000 we get is or is this a terror cover story for us spillover of the war in afghanistan is china really using one way to hack into all of mobile phones is china suppressing information about the coronavirus we speak to the translate of a chinese pilot leader deng xiaoping about the ledge this information campaign against the superpower of the 21st century old visible coming up in part 2 of going
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underground. station or the kind of good intentions of architecture. in christening and maybe even 40 years ago there was simply evaporate to sit there thinking not see at the time a question of the planet. i 1st heard about we can exist in a song from the helicopter footsie in iraq. i think that down at people demeaning to women u.s. military who have never forgiven him for it this guy's a traitor a treasonous and and he has broken every law the united states illegally shoot son of a. story to have. independent journalist with his computer exposing you is what a triumph and to
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a global audience. the idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a media organization is what he makes that was the 1st. i didn't the tour anticipate that he would be for a short while world right and wrong one of the very founder julian assange in the sun over the sun and there was a great deal of jealous in the mainstream toward sancerre in particular why why. or to be more like off their queues heem all smeared feces on the walls. just my. clue. we have julian assange and in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists a week in the house a life in pursuit of the person for the book i don't see him dying any u.s. prison. and i think that's what he's facing.
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i can't show you my face but i'm going to teach you must. in 9093 this man was sentenced to death. they could charged with capital murder even though he didn't have the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for the week which is the end of the 23 years. i started out to serve to be. confined within 4 grey walls the flights using. turn on to help him to leave this room. seemed wrong why don't we all just all. any new world that is yet to shape out this day become educated and engage with equals betrayal.
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when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. we're still in an era of resource colonialism again this is a big risk and the one big thing that could really inhibit the kind of electric vehicle revolution that a lot of us want to see is if we can't resource the battery components in a sustainable ethical way then it's not going to be a successful revolution. welcome back in the 1st half we heard from the syrian government currently in talks with china about post-war reconstruction but if nato nation media is to be believed the impact of coronavirus will leave china crippled unable to wield economic power it
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currently does meaning projects like syrian reconstruction and the new trade deal with the united states will fall by the wayside china denies this so why is their message don't coming through joining me now is the man who used to translate for chinese parliament be to deng xiaoping victor gao who is now the vice president of the center for china and globalization victor welcome to going on the ground in the studio for a change so i got to ask you what is your take on the nia consistent attacks on your government being a result your government being a dictatorship all of this in the context of china's problem with coronavirus well 1st of all out me to express my condolences to those people mostly my countrymen a whole passed away because of his color of the virus and also please allow me to express our sympathy and solidarity with everyone in china throughout china in all these provinces especially well one city and i hope the province while
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now fighting against this current us eventually china will and eventually china will we again you are aware of the coverage the fact is johnno probably anyone watching the coverage in a jewish nation does you can't win. because you're lying to your people about how. this particular variant even started lying about all manner of the context of this virus that learned practitioners involved caring for the sick and ill not allow me to divide this whole thing into 2 faces and the dividing line was january the 20th when dr chu management declared that this corona virus could be transmitted person to person in the 1st face leading all the way to generate that 20. 2020 it was badly handled but ever since jenner the turn to especially ever since she entered the 24th when the police in china convened a full session to talk about his approach the virus i think we are now in phase 2
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we are now very much united in china as a whole in fighting against coral not ours i think transparency is a must complete disclosure is a must. communication man all of this seems to suggest what you're saying there is a total failure of messaging and of communication don't forget that this is occurring whilst it is being pumped out into an aged nation reader all around the world you're basically running concentration camps of a 1000000 people of we good is and i know that's come under scrutiny now because reuters apparently used said it was a un rather than a us back then geo and so on but what is going on with china's ability to communicate its view of what's going on in the world now the eagles are our brothers and sisters probably problems region and the way we go
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are a very proud as and that as a group in china and the way goes reached the chinese culture and tradition as a whole and don't forget it ever since 2001. the americans and nato have been fighting a war in afghanistan it has brought to an end it is still going on and. tunnels region borders with afghanistan and the spill over of terrorism extremism into is a real threat. coming out of mostly from well i mean obviously rational all these big n.g.o.s say using the research of the albeit far right fundamentalist christian adrian sense that your country is imprisoning and detaining i don't know whether it's millions or a 1000000 and the d.c. based chinese human rights defenders which is an organization widely quoted around
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the world they've interviewed 8 people and they say that your government is persecuting and detaining and reeducating and psychologically torturing who knows millions of people i do not accept this kind of accusation we are a nation of 56 ethnic groups each of these ethnic groups are important members of the chinese nation as a whole they are proud the chinese citizens all of us i tell you what this is the reason why britain isn't allowed to work with while away according to mike pence threatening britain over both brakes a trade deal because you'll immediately start hacking our entire internet system i think the british government has the wisdom and the courage and the vision to do the right thing and i think howie is a very very important player here ok as in many other countries in the world there is no ideological twist to whatever always do the and i think u.k.
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as well as many other countries cannot afford not to upgrade their network system to 5 that they agree over here obviously is just i mean this is also in the context with something that john pilger the one of the great. english language journalist who said there is a coming war on china your country is surrounded by u.s. bases sometimes you see foreign ministry spokesperson in beijing getting angry about it but you said why would we want to do it is the perception that's being brought out in neighboring nation media that the reason you want to do do it is somehow china is an evil force in the world i think that's a complete to discard to rise ition of the situation in china i think it is true that there is a very big country in the world which has not yet come to terms with the prospect that eventually china's economic size will be bigger than that country but does
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that mean that china eventually will be for example pushing around in all directions even driving that country out from the center of the global stage no you don't want to invade britain right now. i think while i respect you a your references in that direction probably is as far stretch as you can think about ok when you look at the headlines about huawei and mike pence seeming to turn around something that trumpet previously except the u.k. power networks they run the power in london underground heathrow airport that's a company control basic infrastructure all the leaker shing from china or other people why do you think there is controversy over war where when chinese companies can control. the electricity i would say there are indeed to politicians in washington who seem to be very desperate and hysterical and probably
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they are on the verge if not they are already are losing their sanity is about a hallway and i think it is truly unprecedented for any country is specially the top economy in the world to launch a new. national to declare a national emergency on one single company why are we and i hope politicians as well as the people on this side of the about take in the united kingdom as well as other european countries will be wise enough and saying enough and reasonable enough not to behave like some of the politicians on the other side of the alleged china is characterized as being a dictatorship in media in this country how would you define it ever be described as a dictatorship. ever since became the paramount leading china around 978 also all china has been calling itself a country of socialism with chinese characteristics and i say that phrase or that
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label of that definition is very very broad and fracs of and it is the flexibility whether the people come to that it will be the most of flexible a pragmatic and a reasonable development model in the world it is not based on the ology for example now for dictatorship i don't think china is dictatorship i don't think the 1400000000 chinese people want to live in a dictatorship but china's system is different from any other country in the world which is better is specially which system is better for the circumstances of the country itself that's arguable that can be a condemning question i think we do not need to really lose our sanity because one country is different from ours one country has a different system or one country can achieve roughly about 8 to 9 percent every
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year for the last 4 decades i think we can see why china can manage to do that while almost all the other countries have failed sometimes miserably there you konami development playing a good game. i'm with phase one signed of this trade deal the intel has already been told it can't working on 5 g. corp with china companies are still wary of sanctions if they deal with china allow me to make something for the wreckage of the trade war between china and the united states is the wrong war to start with the conclusion of the 1st phase agreement is a good thing why because it helps china it helps the united states and it helps global trade we are at a period of time in history right now where we are almost on the verge of a global recession recession no one will gain anything by stopping the economic
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growth of the world ok bo you said that national specifics are the context for different political systems of course the way we hear about hong kong britain's old colony is the chinese communist party which may work so well within the people's republic is not intrinsic to what it is like in britain's old colony in fact there are riots over coronavirus because again there is somehow a context of coronavirus in the in the antagonism between the people of hong kong and china a miscarriage a mis characterization i would say a whether you like the situation in hong kong or don't like the situation in hong kong one thing is clear is brutally clear that is the chinese central government is not interfering in whatever that's going on in hong kong because if you see the rest of china throughout the chinese landmass 9600000 square kilometers
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there is no such value or is difficult to get from journalists violence is not tolerated in china therefore china is not interfering in the situation no one really disputes that. on the sovereignty of a hong kong but under one code why isn't it interfering them to stop the violence and the birth on the one country 2 system the responsibility of venting law and order squarely rests on the shoulders of the hong kong is a our cover those carry lambs will know the hong kong government is doing whatever they can to make sure that violence does not degenerate into real chaos always seen the picture that has been my think home cause of democracy and everyone has the right to protest and demonstrate if such protests and demonstrations are legal are just made in law is the principal thing that we need to promote in addition to democracy and human rights then we did actually talk about us n.g.o.s and their
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involvement in the situation ongoing i got to ask you given that the indian a commissioner told me on this program to going underground that as regards the flood and an accession of kashmir by the indian government that the india's position was they wanted better governance in kashmir will china recognise indian occupation of chinese kashmir or china india have very good relations with the 2 largest populations in the world and both countries need to do the right thing to promote good neighborly relations between china and india pakistan is a strong and staunch friend of strong ally bug specially in the in the war against terrorism as it were exactly you ever have realized that kashmir region is disputed territory between pakistan and india and also involving some areas in cash be
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a evolve in china therefore the legal status of kashmir is not settled because of these territorial disputes therefore china does not recognize the indian government's decision to for example in polls its claim on to kashmir. as it did to what's going to do about china is working with. others working with. call for sanity call for reasons for example and any country need to do whatever they can to stop the violence all prevent further provocations and china as the voice of reason as far as the situation. thank you thank you very much for having me on the show will be about. the future freedom with pink floyd from. the project tradition. of wiki leaks publisher julian assange may decide the fate of all journalism all around the world until then continue the conversation on social
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media and join the underground. the bedrock of the post world war 2 global security is slowly but surely unraveling more and more often washington in brussels by virtue of important foreign policy issues today europe has a choice to defend its interests or fade into oblivion. led
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lists. playing. and very well might continue watching on since last. in the troubled 19 seventies a group of killers rampage through parts of northern ireland that was coordinated loyalist attacks protect the only population in belfast tens of thousands were forced to flee their homes a mob was striking to put these attacks was a p.r. you see the police actually took part in the attacks so instead of preventing it they were active participants in the burning of full streets in belfast at the take more than a 100 innocent civilians were unloaded as the review can seniors and we found out more i was surprised about the extent and its occurrence which the collusion was
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involved in some of those cases the killers would later be named goodwin and we're getting i think it went to the very very top i think it is. the water where all the patients you thought was going on and give the go ahead. this is a pretty you know more than not a more it's through mob but in your circles one of you. need him to fall through the much for the privilege of a little marriage to do more when they're. not. quite in good sort of produce here already in the eastern seaboard never you know made it seems the choice. to be. that that.
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he's president says it is just a matter of time before his country don't choose a military operation in a syrian province of a delay but something moscow has described as the worst case scenario. destroy the man pays a visit to the new sangean jail and call on the u.k. government to stop is that dish in the u.s. to make concerns about the health of the wiki leaks founder. and he is exhibiting saw ends of disorientation. he did tell us about being kept in severe oscillation and ongoing loss a large look at a site on the u.s. house of representatives speaker nancy pelosi bones europe of the security risk of working with qual way but fails to mention.

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