thems with the situation is that it's almost giving a warning to all the journalists don't expose war crimes don't expose the truth don't expose the horrors of war because this may happen to you as well just imagine what would have happened when you look at the vietnam war and the trust that is committed by the nazis that's america that it's a journalist who exposed those atrocities. prosecuted afterwards it's important that the world knows the truth and the horror of war and we must carry on speaking out about this and just finally of course now with john mcdonnell and yourself have a status of honest broker joining us on but i wasn't as much what i was as much vocal support during the run up to the general elections that will live upon to be more in full force both in your hands on from now on well before the general election jameco been down off but on myself and others spoke out against the extradition of geneva sound show the leadership

a lot of power was clear on these nothing of course that i have a politics out and i have to decide where that want to lead she going forward will be clear in these months is up enough to play the man beside. deputy labor leadership candidate richard bergen there joining me now is someone who refuses to be silent of a jury of songe pink floyd co-founder roger waters roger thanks for coming in the studio at last this line of the finely exactly you've been campaigning for julia songe eloquently there you talked about there by richard bergen you know that the british guardian newspaper or maybe channel 4 news if you watch that you could be forgiven for thinking you and richard bergen and others are basically convening for brush an agent who's committed sex crimes i mean everything that he's said now is true and. how they're even having these sex titian. trial for julian assange is weird because it's goes completely contrary as we know

to u.k. law so our law the law of this country the law that supposed to represent always tradition treaty with the united today has a treaty but it specifically precludes anything that could be claimed to be a political crime or a political misdemeanor which obviously this is because julian his son is only crime is to speak the truth to the people and he's speaking truth though to a powerful elite who do not want the truth spoken to the people the kind of risky service obviously believes that the espionage act that hacking these are crimes that you can exude i think they do i think has 600000 the powers that be in washington d.c. have decided that they want julian killed or at least imprisoned for the rest of his is health it's extremely poor. and and they want to be locked up forever that as an example it's frightening to know that any minute they could be that standard

issue kicking in the door and your phone and i stuffed into beaumarchais where you will stay until they've had their way with you which is to silence you and any who might follow you which is it which is i mean apart from the fact that julian assange. is clearly a great journalists he went he went in he went to places that other journalists were not going and he developed methods. to help we the people to find out the truth of what was going on in our names in other posts and the like as richard bergen was saying the collateral murder in baghdad well why do you think then that amnesty international has chosen to declare a surge is new prisoner of conscience. i did not know that what an earth does not me i mean i'm i'm asking you because you know you have said you can probably

explain to me them what the hell is a prisoner of conscience they've come up amnesty have in the in the last few years come up with some very strange fever some very strange things that are not necessarily based on anything that you and i might consider to be the fact of the matter how entrenched did these elite forces then kiss starmer secure stormers one of the leading candidates to replace jeremy corbyn as leader of the opposition nearly oversaw as the head of the prosecution service here the edge persecution of julian. is it all through our society or their closely is that you know politicians politicians that tricky animals because they've always got one eye on them on the meter they're always looking to see where they stand how much power they have how popular they are or they aren't well horrific arenas have to perform

and the lot of them delivered over musicians to a very young aspiring musician later taylor swift as someone started talking like you presumably rick would do the recording companies would get quite alone at alienating audiences well that it is true in my in my industry absolutely. there's not a great you don't hear straight talking coming out of i'm 76 years old i've been doing this for 55 years i was a big you know not quite so. and also. i have survived to date with but now brith had counted wrote a letter to the major m.o.p. saying that it was appalling that they were what is having tickets for my shows what they always claim is the i'm a self of no a valid they said a woman of about long standing a vowed anti semi who spreads

a treat. that's a could according to them and they do it because i support b.d.s. because i support human rights lawyer divestment and sanctions a vote could have essman and there was the e.u. does not support now explicitly do you think there's something different about this obviously jeremy corby was heavily attacked for supporting palestine and bernie sanders whose relatives died in the holocaust this some of been accusing bernie sanders of anti semitism trying to hang in there trying the time to hang over in support of ellison his son is with the same code that they hung kolby him with by smearing smear tactics and this trait sure of julian is so this posted the use it now with the with the flag. this is why we feel a lot of the time well the d.n.c. obviously has been religious to be attacking bernie sanders over the primary season just as they did in 2016 where they prevented him from becoming the next president

of the united states then could you see why people at the games are russian agent because they stem from wiki leaks the game russia gave the you know russia has been the biggest waste of time literally wasting everybody's time for the last where did it come from i mean it's so due to chris there were about an identifiable ball steering the 2016 how in a minute what foreign countries interfering in american elections what about $100000000.00 that adelson has just given to dung trump the game re-elected there's a lot of money arguably also going to certain interests in latin america trying to overturn the the old pink tide if we have a little bit of those we know that's how the game works on going to was hosted by prime minister boris johnson in downing street he met with foreign secretary dominic rob what do you make of these pictures of him being feted here in london.

it makes me want to throw up because guido is of the right wing thug who was used by the united states government as the figurehead in there or sent to overthrow the julie elected democratic. government of the sovereign country of venezuela in contravention of every international law and the un charter and everything else because why because they want to make money this isn't a hidden secret war legal silva during the eighty's this is the european union and britain both recognizing what it was your show is how it was a city a state in the attack by near liberal economics and by the war mongering of the powerful elites how insidiously has wormed its way into places of power it's a bit like in germany the blondish coming out and declaring. b.d.'s

a 38 member now what they said but they had to submit it they say so you have well i mean all leadership labor candidates well the arguably agree that you know. how to. i mean every time there's no election when i was a kid our front room was a committee room for the local labor party whoa the local labor party from 55 on and before that for the coming this party so my mom would be turning in no growth a lot of people have also been saying why do leftwing candidates like corbin like saunders talk about palestine why do they talk about venezuela these are irrelevant to me you are liberal destruction a manufacturing jobs why are they relevant because you always campaign on these particular issues that everyday people concerned about their own lives might not think relevant to this trust me. 2 of my great heroes in life are ken

loach and john pilger who sadly colby areas in australia ago a note from him him this morning but i've seen joan poaches 2 hour long documentary in its school the the dirty war on the n.h.s. and it's about the dismantling of the national health service in this country so if you really want to get me started i could weep. so he gets a day knowing that the national health service which is the jury in the crown of the possible that seats away might be moving towards a more equitable world after the 2nd world war to see it being sold down the river by the boris johnson since on a pleasant that as of this world. just breaks my heart it's disaster for it to be privatized any of it well be that wolf roger waters up with a short break plus is the death of british t.v. star caroline flack renewed scrutiny of rupert murdoch's media empire we speak to

a man at the heart of a u.k. inquiry into mainstream media got nominated steve coogan about media manipulation and his new film greed satirizing the billionaires of the fashion industry told a simple coming up of blood to have going underground. in this new preview called problem with not a moon but in your circles modesty. and you know. the much for the good with a little with 3 minutes to do it when they're. pointing good sort of when you're already in the eastern seaboard you know maybe it seems

that strange. city. that. i 1st heard about we can exist in a song. the helicopter folks here in iraq. i think get down to the people who do you mean and i mean u.s. military who have never forgiven him for this guy's a traitor a treasonous and and he has broken every law the united states illegally should. he was really historic to have. independent journalist with his computer exposing you is a lot of crimes and to a global audience. the idea of developing an anonymous. and applying it to

a media organization that is what he makes that was the 1st. i didn't the toy interest between would be for a short while world right and wrong one of the world's most powerful news organization standard founder julian assange. and there was a great deal of jealous in the mainstream towards him particularly why won't he be more like off seem. mean feces on the walls. smile. we have julia in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists away perhaps a life in person the person. i don't want to see him die in prison. and i think that's what he's facing.

nuclear power plants have become a battleground in the u.s. in vermont people are demanding the shut down of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous nuclear power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limits this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on where's the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests who or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is power line with the people this case demonstrates that struggle in very real ways a struggle on r.t. .

welcome back i'm still with roger waters interconnectedness here that i really addressing with you guys julie that suddenly we should just now he's talking about guantanamo torture is do you know about the killing of journalists and civilians in iraq but then all of this talk about pharmaceutical companies and all sorts of corruption wrongdoing is all around the around the world you see this as a hugely interconnected it is hugely interconnected and that's that's one thing that may help some is that people are in the streets in some of the the in chile right where where it started with a tiny crease in subway faces something. now there is a movement in latin america and south america but also the in france and maybe one day there will even be an uprising in the united kingdom to say

enough so. but it was the other uprisings as a board johnson well supposedly he wanted to huge majority in poland was coming to us will come to that but you know before i do in colombia now even though they even though the government there is very very extremely right wing and there's a dictatorship in the people who are on a general strike the whole country is rights as well and bolivia they're not they're refusing to accept the coup again u.s. financed coup that has just taken place getting rid of the jubilee democratic again britain recognizes the new leader of bolivia well 1st johnson would say anything. i mean and i find it very difficult you know to kape straight face even but the mention of that buffoons name i'm sorry. half but it's no different than the united states where i live how do you get these people rise into these

positions of extraordinary political power arguably donald trump who came to power in an antiwar ticket i mean i i spoke to judaism's in the ecuadorian embassy about how hillary clinton could will of got us into a full scale war involving syria i'm sure she trump was an antiwar. yes and yet and yet united states involvement in the wars abroad has actually increased in their spending more money on it than they were in any previous administration under trump i mean and let's not write off the possibility that trump may do something credibly insanely stupid at the behest of the neocons visibly iran is ready has murdering that murdering customs eliminate again exactly well if you can get millions around the world to support during a songe like he is a latter day nelson mandela. i didn't a g politics at least as we. presumably there's been massive progress on it since

you started out but even in their. own leg kills the manning who is refusing to testify against really isn't it's day 346 of her it because our ancient tongue credit was a brave woman people think chelsea manning is a traitor and that she deserves everything that she gets the hatred was so intense music has been such a great part of rebellion against elites over history obviously in south africa and so on presumably that's why you turned up outside the home office here to protest about the incarceration of julie the surge hardly any people turned up i have have to say are you saying that again propaganda hardly any people turned up and not a single word was printed in any english or american newspaper of that event apart from an r t but obviously what turned this is that all the television networks here would say

no one told them don't cover roger waters singing wish you were here in ignorance of performance so it's a would it's in their heads. oh. people aren't stupid where you think journalists coming out and in bed drove sit in their hundreds of thousands to defend judea you don't have to write people's foreheads so they read it every morning when they go up to shave they go oh look of mustn't step out of line or i won't get that promotion i was because i won't be given that job over this one how about what happens when you fly a big pig above a demonstration of the mother of all parliaments what are you drawing to do will get attention that for instance a pig that would go flying over here now. has got a big picture of the american flag over his face and it says free is in on the of the so it is describes the moment where it's going to start from what's going to

finish and the fact going to be on it and i'm going to open my big mouth in public so. for me the pick has become a way of attracting attention to it because people recognize it so it's familiar it's a bit like we don't need no education is familiar to most people it's in their minds so that in and if you want to get people's attention then and and and. you have access to iconic images so well it is lyrics and news do you think the tide is now turning in julius underage favor even some mainstream media outlets may be reporting on this trial starting on monday and realizing that the very same out of the reporting of the case may not be able to do journalism i think. fingers crossed you know.

one dreads to show any faith that just at this particular moment while he's languishing in belmarsh in a tiny cell a man has committed no crime and as we know the strains of being absolutely pulled from the united states it's a tiny courtroom and it's almost full of american advisors american lawyers sitting behind the english q.c. who's prosecuting these prosecuting the case so will you we will those of us who care about democracy and freedom and human rights and more importantly running mate and the magna carta and english jurisprudence and the law desperately want to believe that the law will prevail because this is not the law it's a kangaroo court and to have a kangaroo court taking place in my homeland distresses me beyond all belief is

this what my father my grandfather died for no it's not we need to be able to rely on the law and this is a sure or come on people let's let's. take to the streets where i am or you will just thank you well while julian assange just been mostly ignored by mainstream media one story that hasn't is the death of reality t.v. host caroline flack questions similar to those are asked after the deaths of princess diana and amy winehouse are being asked all over again about all agog newspapers and ironically flacks last on screen performance is to be in a film starring steve coogan himself at the heart of an inquiry into president thinks the film greed examines the dark side of the fashion industry from the perspective of a billionaire businessman going underground caught up with the film's director michael winterbottom and coogan on the red carpet and started by asking coogan about using comedy to shine a light on the billionaire class the more clever more sophisticated super rich try

to keep a low profile and don't attract attention to themselves if it. sucks someone who uses a inspiration if you like for this is someone who did did attract attention to yourself you deliberately used him self. as sort of as they had a public figure at his company. and that in a way helped shine a light on the sort of the. super rich are you but that's all we were about were about people being supposed to do it people have money to do what they like but. there's such a mash. disparity between the super rich and the super poor. it comes about that people have to say what is acceptable you know. what you know and to talk about it because the one thing the super rich have is influence a young they can influence politicians they can influence you can buy influence by interest in newspapers and what they're able to do is to some extent you can

control a brain agenda i'm not stopping the gender they want to they want to frame is one where no one no one talks about this stuff and what we're trying to show is make me a story that michael winterbottom. he did say at the end of it the ending of a storm. of the haitian i'm salaries of the c.e.o.'s. pay that walks in bangladesh you know i marked out yeah it was some sort of so do you think that this kind of represents in some walking interests of the various the most basic of the council's cost of this film it's amazing i support filmmakers i support i support creativity what the problem with the for the entertainment industry is a constant tension between art and commerce and and when given a choice i will always side with overcoming. what you find is that the world is run by people who are bottom line people who will always basically close ranks if that if that the cartel of all ages have is that a threat just about the so i support my claim well we've seen over the past couple

of years especially the political climate bill you know as the super rich are getting ever more scrutinized so do you think comedy like this do you think is not helping with that sort of i think scrutiny that. i think you know i well meaning documentary that appeals to you know often is. preaching to the converted speech to the choir just say and. i think comedy is a really good way to you know using comedy as a way to show you the pill. of difficult subjects is always a good thing you said it best to do comedy i don't like documentaries straight talk mostly about inequality and the way in which because it's grown over the last 40 years this felt like it you know and say the way you have a character like which we create a space and create really start to be. that. market and hopefully people get by the end of the film feel that you know the world should be changed in some way and it has been reported of course sony did copy and of the

film you did one c.e.o. salaries compared to the walkers but do you think that represents a kind of in some locking interests of you know the 1000000000 us just by being in different industries. so you think when he talked that's a system approach to paying a ransom money because i think that the don't buy the film is that it's not by individuals i don't like $1.00 brand is bad one brand is good it's what you get the system the market forces all the brands compete against other over the world for the cheapest possible place where they go to fight each other and you know say i was here for then i'll go to bangladesh to get i get cheaper they get me a multi-year cheaper and all the brands are doing all the brands use the same faction's a much as it's about to get in with you guys it's not say this part is a bad thing but if you think that the owners are is worth $60000000000.00 but the women who make the toasters are ok pay $0.50 an hour or $0.60 an hour whatever it's to pay and what you wish to do in that gap is and what actions you want consumers to take off the stock i think they should be i think the place guys is bless them because if you're going to be tried so look at look for i think i think all

suppliers and that's great but that takes me like 5 buying for us and why they tend to be just expensive it's like leasing it makes some difference to the best way to the best way to change is have got to say what we want we don't want companies to be allowed to buy this or why do we want to break a system or you know we don't want the market to be the only kind of principle holds all brands of kind of competing with other brands of one brand find a cheaper place we can pay we have pay for actually less but that's moving from one country to another that tends that all the brands chasing us plus the people it's all get richer and richer and richer just put all the money in a taxi and just finally what the political climate now changing and so much awareness growing through we are access to think you have hope now that system is going to change i do i do think my unforeseen my adult life is coincide with the tone of the market 1st i serve as it was margaret thatcher and since then it's been a sense like you can argue with the market i do think that since the financial crisis really there's been a growing sense that something should change things should be fairer that is the

rich we have richer and richer it doesn't matter that inequality doesn't matter i think people try to i think you do want to change steve coogan and michael winterbottom speaking to going underground far as i'm of there and greed is out now in cinema. yes all around the world that's it for the show will be back on monday with the un report on torture as the extradition trial of wiki leaks publisher judy the songe begins in london until then keep in touch via social media and join me on the ground by subscribing to going on the go to you tube where you'll see exclusive interviews with julia songe on global power corruption and lies. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sport that's less i'm showbusiness i'll see you than.

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