human rights records which have a country they maybe from whichever wing of the political political spectrum here i mean surely we need a level playing field here surely we should either accept that may be some good things in saudi arabia or under general pinochet or not invoke the. political debates which will. well look. i will quote george w. bush who said we judge other countries by the worst of their actions we judge our own country by the best of our intentions and i think that's true you can look at a country like cuba and yes you can learn about literacy programs that work health care programs that work and we should be able to do that in a rational way again especially when you look at the fact that people like president trump and president obama before him and numerous presidents before them partnered with murderous regimes like saudi arabia which now is being funded by the

u.s. in its war against yemen which is threatening to kill millions of people and yet that is something that isn't being discussed you know that this whole thing about cuba the soviet union and you know how this gentleman richard was portraying what he views as socialism that isn't the point the point is that powers that be in this country have been living large for a long time a few billionaires control most of the wealth of this country and they're afraid that that could end and that's why they are now going after bernie sanders and that's why we should support or support bernie sanders ok just out of time right now for this law but also to stay on just through it all going to get back to you after we finish this segment but daniel schorr and richard goodstein done about it thanks all 3 of you for joining us on live program today. well that's all for us for now i'm back in 30 minutes with the latest.

join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest in the world of politics school business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. max kaiser this is the cause the report you know some people say we're living in a simulation that's just a giant hole the ground though this is real well you know evidence is pouring in that that could be so. we've seen this unfolding of the supply chain getting hit by this corona virus or couvade 19 as they call it and it kind of reminded me

when looking at the world health organization refusing to call it a pandemic even though the entire like 790 people are under quarantine in china people all over the world and these cruise ships getting up quarantined with hundreds of people infected on it not a pandemic just like the fed whatever they've been doing since september it's not q.e. so we're not printing money we're not quarantining a huge percentage of the global population i think it was 10 percent of the global population was at one point at least under quarantine and max keiser at his new twitter handle real max keiser he tweeted coronavirus proves global economy died in 2008 and has been kept animated with money printing this hasn't been clear until now and supply lines stop and shops empty but markets go higher on basis of more money printing right that's the i think the very interesting point to

delve into in other words in 2008 we've said you have actually the global economy stopped because the credit froze they bailed out the creditors a 3rd of the debtors and those creditors simply took all that money and bought really expensive property around the world and expensive art pieces but the economy itself the real economy died and it's dead we're living. just like the famous gamer who took the. man game all the way to the end after gaming for 15 hours and then you just see the raw source code at the underneath the pac-man game we saw up by the economy that it was actually a simulation nothing was going on and people would not accept that to be true but the coronavirus now has proven this point because even though all supply loans supply lines are choked and deliveries of critical parts are not happening stocks are still stable or going higher because it's fed by cheap money right it's all cheap money that cheap money is is created out of nothing to create the simulation

going into so it's just electrons the cost of electrons are virtually 0 and that's all that is behind this cheap money and so the simulation continues and it's in this simulation people are buying apartments in new york for $200000000.00 you know jeff bezos is buying a yacht for $400000000.00 that's that this all part of the simulation in the 2nd half we speak to peter mccormack who is just recently in venezuela and you might find shelves empty there you're also finding shelves empty here but the fact is you know stock markets are are continue to be at all time highs it seems like everything is booming in singapore and hong kong and china they have no toilet issue there was a story of somebody robbing a shop a supermarket in order to just get some some toilet tissue so this is the same so it is it's no different than what's happening in venezuela a different cause perhaps but at the end of the day when the same situation and at

the end of the day for the ordinary person you know i hearken back to famous essay written by dmitri orloff back must be now 12 or 13 years ago 20062006 he wrote something called the collapse gap and you saying the soviet union and united states are similar they both bankrupt of themselves with military budgets the soviet union collapsed and we know the story of that and. in the us would collapse at some point well i would say you know it's basically true except that instead of the us collapsing it's really the globe the globe collapsing everyone has followed this neoliberal capitals model of money printing but no profits no jobs no growth no health. mortality death rates you know that's the collapse that we're suffering now for the same reason we've bankrupted ourselves with the energy industry to feed the pentagon which is now running out of energy just like the roman roman legions asuncion when the denarius coin became worthless the roman

empire collapsed and of course as the roman empire collapsed they ran out of ideas people are running out of ideas the only idea they have is more and more printing as you had pointed out in your tweets and of course janet yellen stepped in and basically agreed with you by saying yellen says fed purchases of stocks and corporate bonds could help in a downturn so of quantitative easing and printing money and buying treasuries and other aaa government bonds well then we're going to start buying corporate junk again like here we have nature fighting back we have and at 68 degrees for the 1st time in recorded history we have these coronaviruses these sort of bad inspired deadly viruses that have been emerging over the past 20 years ebola sars smears. 19 so it seems like no matter what like we get more and more elated and more and

more like you know the stock markets just go higher and higher and it has to fight back nature is fighting back harder and harder right there a lot of people on wall street rooting for a coronavirus wipe out of half the world's population because that would prompt central banks to print ever more money and force their stock portfolios higher and it is so gross and disgusting the incentives for this economy have become in. quite perverse and disgusting and there's doubt yellen who's reinforcing the idea that we live in a in a neo monarchy we live in a royal court where those who janet yellen z are friends of janet are friends of jay powell the current fed chairman get unlimited bailouts for just because they're friends of jay powell for doing for being a friend of jay powell they get unlimited credit as 0 percent interest rates and they're what else is living. a peasant we live in a global peasantry and if you're not a friend of jay powell you are

a peasant well exactly i did ask in a tweet to that could help you she was saying it could help she didn't specify who and of course it will help the people behind the moats the people who are have pulled up the drawbridge since 1971 since they went off the gold standard since there's no honest metric and you know again tying it into this coronavirus of course nobody's talking about the big situation america is a lot of these people who end up in hospital it's a 20 percent of those who get hit by corona virus have to go to hospital and the average stay is like 10 days to 3 weeks that's going to cost you half a $1000000.00 here in america most americans have about $400.00 in savings so what is going to happen here. forget the fact that most of these hospitals in america don't even have medical masks anymore because they're all made in china this mass are made in china and china is keeping it for themselves here we have

a situation where the anybody who gets sick. how is that going to unfold where people will be too afraid to go to the hospital so they're going to continue walking around the supermarket looking for toilet tissue right you know people say that northern europe is essentially capitalism with a strong welfare state and that's the model in america is capitalism mixed with a death cult and that's the difference you know we worship death so we make medical attention in. care so inaccessible that we glorify and deify death it's a death cult in america that's what that's our number one export in a different way than what mexico might have where they have a day of the dead and they speak to their ancestors where a kind of more of a you know that early protestants sort of vengeance full you know if if you can afford it then you deserve to die sort of thing but you know i have mentioned

hard money that we went off hard money in 1071 and all of these crazy viruses and all this like the fact that we were able to bring decades and decades of future growth forward to today and we've spent it all and i think that that's these are the signs that we're seeing around in the environment and that is that we've actually lived the next 50 years for 10000000000 people you know we've already live their lives and now we're in this weird stace this. you know i want to compare it to the story that mike novogratz tweeted about and that is that the average woman in the usa is 5 foot 4 inches and weighs $167.00 pounds the average man is 5 foot 9 inches and weighs 195 pounds we need a new national diet i can't believe the female numbers but i've double checked time for country fast what i'm saying is that here we've had. on the mainstream

financial press they'll tell you well this is great food prices all the spot processed food it helps the poor just like our money we could continue to give people money we can we know we could airdrop the money so easily because we f. e out because we're no longer on a gold standard we can just drop them and as i just pointed out not only do most americans have less than 400 dollars in savings and in fact about the bottom 2030 percent of the population has negative net worth but we're always sold on the idea that we can't let interest rates rise because it will hurt the poor we can't have hard money because it will hurt the pork we can't have real food because it will hurt the poor but here you're seeing that this this is starvation this is an absence of nutrients that you're receiving from the food you're being fed whether it's in the monetary system or the actual nutrients food system the i love the way safety and imus talks about this in his book the bitcoin standard and i really recommend it talks about this idea of keynesianism and the fake money

syndromes kind of carrying over to the fake food syndrome and they just look at the calories and say well the poor eats 2 or 3000 calories a day they don't care that the calories are actually dangerous excess carbohydrates fake sugar death molecules essentially it's just calories right and the results are national health crisis and then when you go to the hospital for treatment then that's part of a death cult so it's this loop of death unlike mexico where it's they've incorporated death into their aesthetic and artistic expression here it's part of the every day the capitalist model that you need to die for michael bloomberg the greatest thing you can do for michael bloomberg is die i mean that's essentially his message and bus live from the obvious racism and it's pretty pathetic with. the cheap food that we're told is good for the poor it obviously adds a huge health. care burden to them but also you know lost work wages things like

that in terms of dealing with their health the same with cheap money they have a massive accumulation of debt that they can never escape and thus never build capital a must never invest in a future they're always running in the same spot since you know i know we staying still so that's why i'm saying we need hard money we need hard food we need bitcoin we need gold you know just because a government might say you can now sell a kidney for money doesn't mean it's a good idea even though you're desperate for some sugary breakfast cereal to impair your health and end up in the hospital and not be able to pay and then go into debt servitude so michael bloomberg can feel good about himself by an election because hillary clinton lost in 2016 and we're only in the 3rd or 4th stage of the 7 stages of grief oh my god hillary what are going to put us through what do we have to suffer because are such an ego maniacal idiot well we got to take a break and when we come back much more coming your way.

become a battleground in the u.s. . people of demanding the shutdown of a local plant from my yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous oh no prayer power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactive beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on where's the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests who or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is or how are lie with the people this case

demonstrates that struggle in very real ways a struggle. welcome back to the kaiser report on. austin texas the peter mccormick extraordinary podcast or host of what. defiance welcome back thanks i mean back yeah. but. you know the south america was. oh yeah everywhere you went oh actually it's going to be left around as well. respected respected let's talk about that as well oh yes richard tweeting from venezuela and you're a guy who actually goes places and talks to people in real time and does the job a journalist do you know that you're actually gathering information and reporting

on it and so let's talk about this you 1st of all just to the question was it tough to get into venezuela there was a lot of logistics planning so my producer keep saying stop calling yourself a journalist because it comes with too many responsibilities here yeah that's why a lot of people say you know yourself funny because identifies a satirist because satirists get more slack in terms of free speech yeah yeah that's true he said the problem with journalism is that you need multiple sources fact checking and said you don't have the infrastructure for that so you're just the man on the street telling people what you see but you know a lot of planning just ticks so. it's only there for 2 days off in june 2018 i 1st looked into venezuela i've been following what's been going there are really going to be a guy i used to write for. so we went to colombia we met up with him and a group of people for venezuelans it's actually his birthday but the thing he said you need to be very quick with your equipment and being considered

a journalist so we didn't take any of our quip when we left it all in. the hotel. we tried to arrange it to get shipped to where we would go it was a. so we left it there we took him on the phone each d.s.l. reach none of our mikes apart from positive to an i phone and then we went we went in separately and you know he said he was a photographer and i said i was mocking go out of here as a tourist a little bit of grief on the way in but not too much. the happened off that we visited one of the slums. and we left the slums when we got to the highway we the police were following us and pulled us over and you know pretty clear with us of the journalists with him were tourists they said what's on the cameras if there's any anti government messages you're going to be arrested and put in jail and all fixed it was very good convincing them not even to check the cameras so

that was lucky ok so what was the purpose of this because you wanted to find out what were you did to confirm what your thoughts were are did you learn some new stuff and new stuff i mean every for 2 reasons now go for bitcoin and then i get to define it so i want to know what's actually going on somewhere like human rights ok so what did you learn about. that. there is a limited use of bitcoin. so we went to the border in colombia. there was twofold n.g.o.s receive donations but they just it's just a way of receive the money it's just another currency they can receive income to what they need it doesn't offer anything special in terms of donation is just another source of money but it is used but again in a very limited amount for people to. send money back into the country. again it's very limited very small most people on the border are trying to and

dollars a bowl a vase and taken all taken back into the country to spend so there's very limited use case there most people all they're really very extra. levels of poverty i didn't know wolf we met some go actually when i went to interview one of the n.g.o.s that this spanish guy grabbed me and i didn't speak spanish but these translated he was crying and also to be interviewed he said people need to know what it's like from life in there and he'd come to talk to have money and he was the. living on the street but his wife and his baby. lay him on the street sleeping worried about being attacked. had nothing so we gave him 60 bucks in the end and he was crying his eyes on the guy explained i didn't have an understanding of how poor these people he said well his family can only eat for 3 months. and that's what so that's a meal when we go out right right so the level of poverty is extreme this experience of the idea of these people who are struggling to get by the next 2 or 3 hours you

know in the wallet and your brother he's getting your private keys i mean that's not the goal you know because they are struggling to survive just as the few hours now we know that part of the reason that they're in the state that they're in has to do with the money with the dollar because that's the currency of occupation is the currency of colonialism and this is seen all over latin america but typically in a revolution and you see this in countries now different peasant uprisings whether it's in france or latin america or even in america in the present uprising with the ascent of bernie sanders it's usually the middle class that is actually engaged in the revolution in the end sure action they've had it you know up to the neck and they're willing to stage the insurrection is there did you have contact with more middle class yes in venezuela what's going on there so we did both we went into the east of the west and the east of caracas and the polar opposite so you go to the

east and it feels like any cosmopolis in the city you've got. the genes we were called carriage we pushed for. it still has problems with security it still has problems. with violence and crime but generally speaking it's pretty stable and that's where all the best jobs that's where i soon these people have managed to maintain some level income outside of venezuela while the. died we then went into the slums in the west and it entirely changes and one of my 1st experience of this is being in a propaganda zone you know huge maturer murals huge chavez murals like graffiti on the wall but very much of the same style everywhere and then we stumbled upon a madeira rally and that was very weird experience because. during any support but at the same time it felt highly staged you know this happened on the same day that i had come back to venezuela and. you know i just felt very stage

one of the most interesting things though is that. when we got out of into a place where i could offer people privately questions where there was no camera on and you know nobody looking in on the conversation i would offer people what they think. and it felt like need to have strong support everyone everyone i spoke to wants freedom and i think it speaks to a function of this stuff that everyone wants to get rid of material but they still don't think the go i write the date the rise of hugo chavez of course you know in response to the coup and the america even under his watch tried another coup and to establish some kind of economic model in this case what is the kind of kleptocracy mostly us fred is to talk a populist game because you're trying to gain power trying to get into office simple messages you know this money that's being taken out of the country we're

going to try to keep it in the country and then you have a lot of folks in the u.s. and elsewhere would say well this is socialism it's and socialism is evil but kind of not putting it into cars. context the occupation that was there stealing all the wealth to begin with is this phrase socialism misused in this way or what do you how do you put that into context yeah i mean i don't want to get into a person again of the whole american kind of history of coup or whether this is a coup now because i don't know enough about it on the stand off about it and to be honest right now looking at how desperate the situation is. actually think a coup right now would be a good thing if it if it opened up the markets if it free the people to continue to have jobs and money of all in the nation example let's say from the united states let's say it's the fifty's and sixty's the jim crow laws are in effect blacks are being persecuted unmercifully in america so it would be

a good idea for france or germany to stage a coup in america and free of the black population i mean another. problem doesn't need homegrown solution i guess ideally you would have a homegrown solution but you are talking about very violent. trafficking state that has a very violent control over not only narcotics all me and the gold mines you know these these are people who are ruthless and the situation is so desperate that if there was a coup and it led to the downfall of the there are what i would want to know is what is the net gain net loss of my of my sumption would be a net gain for every war overall state but it's not going to change the poverty you know. venezuela's had poverty for years that you know you know desperate poverty but the the the impact right now we're desperate and the thing is the story has told all the things i've heard all the videos i've seen is. believable right well it's interesting to see one in the gallery the trump speech looks like another lot

america pump it to me but let's move on let's talk about randy brady a local mash you know he's got a venezuela big going community he got a little wireless nodes. and they can do hard money transfer outside of government outside corporations peer to peer seems like the real revolution that should be supported and is being picked up in that kind of middle class type environment did you see any of that so the thing is that the people using right now all the wealthy or those who are educated are the mining all the trading and this some remittance most a lot of people don't have funds to some people showing them and those who do have them don't have data services so having the actual access to to use something like big coin the infrastructure isn't even that the education. these people are too poor to buy the coin i mean even if the big coin transaction fee is $0.20 and they don't have a dollar and then they spend 20 percent on

a transaction fans action so it serves no purpose to the poorest people when you're in caracas it's fine everyone's got power everyone's going access to data it's in the provinces that they don't and that's where you have in the blockhouse again those are the people who through poor so you know i put out. my controversially called it. because i don't think the solution is the one right now it's certainly not people who are just hungry and they need money and they survive on the ball of all the dollar everyone has and uses the ball of all they want the dollar if they can get it because it's a bit more stable because it is limited to those who a mining those who are they understand that the dollars harder currency than the ball of what it is under under the gresham's law you know. the good money pushes out the bad and so the dollar versus the ball of our is hard but versus the dollar is even harder still and in other countries receive oh you have to have the option of taking either gold or versus the u.s. dollar or u.s.

in uruguay a.t.m. just set up for the dollar and a local currency and people save the dollars as a store of value and then they use the local currency for transactions so they understand what a hard money isn't. you can go on you know once the joshi is 1100th of a penny some people can afford 1100th of a penny and they can stack sounds and they can achieve individual sovereignty so it's not a massive worth telling people absolutely but the the name of the game right now for a lot of people to survival it isn't it isn't a month ahead or a week and it's today tomorrow how we're going to. now there are practical problems with like gold is money that. people can use and that because it's part of gold this part of the problems with that coin that it doesn't solve the india for example the distressed economy you have 20000 tons held by women as a way to preserve well but anyway we go they don't save for this is that. they don't have a culture saving in venezuela it's get money spend money get money spend money

they've been brainwashed into fee out money but anyway. you know the current thinking on the cars are there i can see. now we're going to do left and yet i can't go. down with the venezuelan kids i'm ready for that as well and i was going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me stacey her and i think we're going to peter mccormack of what bitcoin did podcast super if you want to catch us on twitter and. they put themselves on the line and they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and. want to. have to go on to be press this is

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