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a taste of the daily challenge if you're going to exploit a child here in los angeles they were going to come as you would see officers going undercover as 6 workers and customers to find 6 trades. hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle as the democrats gear up to officially start their 2020 presidential primary it is fitting to assess donald trump's performance in office a report card of sorts where is he kept his promises and where has he come up short well any of this really matter in november.
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crosstalk in the trump report card i'm joined by my guest soraya foss in austin she is a u.s. libertarian presidential candidate in new york we cross the line and he is a legal and media analyst also in new york we have in williams he is a journalist and author as well as a senior analyst at foreign policy in focus all right crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate lionel let me go to you 1st here in a nutshell give donald trump his report card because the primary season is upon us here i must say his opponents are not something that i would be too worried about but an incumbent president always does run in this case his record so judge that record given a great. a plus plus plus and also if i could curve if i could weigh in the fact that he has been absolutely or they have attempted to stop him to do you rail
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him do indict him do impeach him to to do interrupt everything he has done from the moment he announced in view of all of that and the aforementioned he is in my lifetime the greatest president i have seen he will win in their ways down the victory landslide of the popular vote and the electoral vote ok i see quite a bit of disbelief with our co panel a series of let me go to i don't i know you and i can see your face are going to be good it's the right of birth in austin ok reflect upon my introduction my question to lionel and lionel's answer go ahead and in austin let me tell you i'd have to say i'm very disappointed in donald trump even though i endorsed him in 2016 everything that he said that he was going to do he has not applied to and fact especially when it comes to foreign policy so i would have to give him a d.
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minus ok and you're up to bat go ahead a new york. well i really have to say look i'm presentation is a double plus he's a consummate politician. if he has a demagogue of the 1st order he's up there with muscle levy or how to pull a crowd but in terms of delivery it's. negative negative negative but it's interesting i think the american people have seen that's because the key point says it's quite clear that's an ethics is f f f i've been covering him since i came to america in one $989.00 and i couldn't understand the adulation with which he was greeted he became the archetype will businessman with his t.v. program as he led company after company into bankruptcy he was standing up there talking about the art of the deal when he remake it on every single business deal he ever made and left all over the place the man has no ethics at all which is the
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secret of his success as a politician and i think it's the american people have recognized that because at this stage of the career look the economy is better than it's been for years unemployment is the lowest nobody gives him any credit for that they look at just before 3 they look at his twisted ethics they see what he does i can't believe that but that don't bet in that so very similar economic background that's why he should be way up there and he isn't and that's ok i'll let you bring up half and realize you bring up a very good point i'll throw it back to lionel i mean in you you actually preempted my 2nd question here but but what people what we've heard from from particularly from ian is the media's per a perception of donald trump and i think it works to his advantage the more he has demonized the more that he is underestimated the more he seems to cling on and fire back and and for me because i work in media i see everything through the prism of
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media and it seems to me because media the liberal media continue to shoot themselves in the foot they don't learn anything about dealing with this man in the white house go ahead lionel. every single day we hear the same present company not included in what i'm about to say the same bumper sticker echo chamber cookie cutter playbook this drew vol this excruciating indictment he's on fickle you bring up the grabbing pudenda it so all the american public have completely habituated to this and what he has done like nobody else is to reach into the heart of the world not america and strike a chord he is by far without a doubt a superstar the most the singular most dynamic ok gear on
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the public platform bar none and it kills people that that's ok well i think i have to really push back for a change aligning with you i mean the world the world certainly doesn't see donald trump that way at all school k. certainly doesn't. at all donald trump have to sneak in and out of london they see us as a joke on the lake area because they could the stunned the couple of public protests even boris johnson is embarrassed by him yes to support him for geopolitical reasons but boris johnson actually pleaded with him to stay away during the election because it doesn't buy donald trump could have led to electoral disaster in britain ok and it's most of the case stay with us it's not like you know you said want to take i worry about this you had one thing riot jumping in are wondering all right go ahead so yeah you know let me tell you i think the one thing that you said that is right is that he's a show man and he's all appearance and that's what one everybody in 2016 he
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promised to put america 1st and he hasn't done any of that the only thing he's done is he's sold himself to the saudi government we're fighting wars that aren't even r's. this is ridiculous and you seem to think that he's appealing to the american people how by using our tax paying dollars to fund wars that aren't even ours or i mean i don't understand you seem to think that he is like the best of the best in what sense the only thing he had going for him that was right was the fact that there was fake news and still here until he started believing it himself and he started creating it himself as well because the more you repeat something the more it becomes the truth even if it's a lie and the problem is is that nobody takes the time to do the research and to find out the facts i've always said the media is the 4th branch of government because it moves public opinion and this is exactly what's going on right now in the united states unfortunately get lionel jump in. that's exactly what he did if you keep saying that over and over again it will be true let me say something and i
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and i hate it please i i don't in any way want to insult anybody. the american voter and i'm not advocating this could not possibly care less about what boris johnson thinks or the rule now this may be a line or but i know you're coming election that is becoming who i know you're contradicting i know not how you're listening to the illusion that every time trump tweet if the market goes up and down i mean this is ridiculous you're trying to say again you're living an allusion is what you're a little because this is not how the world we're going to be the president of the united 8th america you're going to feel it to be representing for the other people we're supposed to be an example to others we're not supposed to be a laughingstock of the whole entire world are you doing as a kid learning to the terrorist you're missing your parents why do you think 13 he was supposed to be a comrade
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a parent and what is he doing he gave them are finding more power and right now after they combat terrorism for 9 years he killed the general the guy who made it happen who was a hero and who is the delinquent here ok. i want to call time is equal time oh and go lionel mad as a lawyer the erroneous point that he's revered across the world it doesn't make it a left wing stuff and americans know a lot serious americans know this they expect they don't care about foreign policy that much but the irony is that they expect the president to represent them on the world stage and they can see as far as they can see he's been misrepresented so for example the saudis can put their opponents through meat grinders literally under no donald trump will come apart the moment head now that doesn't play well with the
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american public with whom the saudis are not the most popular people and not just us we are big in fact invited to join in yet another war. oh be a part of it to say i owed these against iran and now you might have a very severe reservations about the dollars and the iranian regime but they are nothing one person with the daily impart aristide's that saudi arabia has been perpetrating with their execution i come back to it the meat grinder or opponents within days of that happening with his own government agencies say this it happened there was done evo-devo ethics closing up and i have to say the media gave them an easy ride right someone else can ok and i now and now i have to push back against you because the foreign policy that you and soraya are criticizing which i do too but the media will not push back either which is a shame ok and that is probably the biggest difference i have with lionel which
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will flesh out a little bit here but actually they are pushing back and look i was really the only one only because it's against trump not because it's ethically right it's only because it's against trump which i think is ethically wrong ok it doesn't get to the heart of the problem here in america people do not want to be dragged into another he and i know president that this is what we're doing wrong ok all right lionel you get the last word before we go to the break go ahead. what you just said was wonderful i am talking about the political reality this is wonderful for a college dissertation or maybe perhaps something on a more of an international level and i'm not saying you're wrong what i'm saying is that because while nothing of how boring paul had nothing to go around you're saying is they're relevant because when you had barack obama when you had barack obama who was celebrated and loved all over the world oh he was they loved him he was a disaster for this country and we haven't forgotten that so while i'm saying you
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may be correct intellectually factually politically i would hire neither of you to present his campaign or any campaign for a president of the united states today this is great on an international forum and i want to go on but he was really that i really honestly don't want to try to draw let's have 2 american politics it's in napa all right i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on trump's report card stay with somebody. and we're going to fulfill the repeated promises of politics to the people and come on you know weeks or box the truth are you.
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really. are you want to work. no 5. cut cut cut cut. cut cut cut cut cut coming.
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your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world know what's going to happen and when it's going to. but they haven't told you and they haven't told me they haven't announced. imagine something as big as the earth . is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes and i rapped and it's going to chill. so very for a while right. my great grandfathers. nobody would care about the law or prison so you'd have lawlessness should have. a terrible life between them and the.
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welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the trump report card. ok let's go back to austin let's talk about the issue of impeachment here which i think is an absolute farce i think it's an embarrassment and i think the media continue. to embarrass itself shamelessly this is only a distraction if anyone's is. contravening the law obstructing justice it's the democratic party in the majority in congress that's my opinion and just wanted to get it out there but you know so i this is only helping donald trump i mean this is a farce go ahead oh of course yes that is that's helping him because that's he keeps on playing the whole card that the people are against him men the democrats
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are doing it on purpose because they can't get over the loss that they did in 2016 which is true which is true democrats need to move on he's currently the president we have to deal with it you know i mean but what we can learn from it is that in 2020 you have options if you're not happy and you see that donald trump is following the same exact rhetoric because that's all we've had for the past 30 years is the same mandate different faces we need something new and fresh and this is why people need to realize the libertarian party is here where the 3rd largest party in the united states and we want to have the opportunity to prove to you and we are about the people not like everybody else who tells you that they are just to get elected and as we've seen even with donald trump * you know he was able to prove that you know at the end it day it's the corporations it's the lobbyist is the people that they all favors to and it's never about the people and this is the reason why i'm running for president ok well that. you can use this is a sound bite ok in an ad police do and you were disagreeing with my my
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characterization of impeachment go ahead. look i think impeachment might be a political mistake because it's obviously a means to rectify what a political loss by the democrats you think that was but that's what it invoked when they were hounding clinton for being a democrat and having been elected and i got no time for clinton either but the impeachment there was a much less substantial grounds and what trump is doing here by denying the witnesses to come that he is if the democrats were somebody enough to get up and shout about it basically admitting the truth they say i can't let the truth out because the truth is the tea put pressure on a foreign government using powers that congress didn't give him to withhold money the congressional congress and voted to achieve a result to damage a political enemy now this hits on everything make america great again america 1st
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don't even know you're in saudi and i'm sorry but that is just a simple talking point there is no in peer recall evidence at all to suggest what you're saying is true 100617 what they should take on president is if you already get information all the best you will pay 0 sorry go ahead go jump in all this information all we proved that biden was at fault back then and it's really really difficult for me to understand because there's this notion that certain people are above the law we saw that happen with hillary clinton because if they were that average person that would have done half of the stuff that biden or clinton's or obama even did and now trump they are getting trump on the wrong things when it comes to impeachment i can tell you there is a whole long list of things that they really want to look at it they can get him on but you know what it is it would also implicate the democrats and that really why trying to figure out exactly and that kind of sugar coat on the layers exactly
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exactly the the copenhagen a working of cardinality hand their culpability is by. hard to sit in that's why they don't go there here but the line you have lionel is remarkable. they have and i have to wake sure that line has a pulse because he hasn't said anything in this part of the program go ahead lionel impeachment oh no i'm just i'm just i'm just waiting for my esteemed colleagues to realize. i'm wasting my time go ahead i am on you when things that may might be good might be good in a sad lawn or might be might be relevant in some type of a of a of a college discussion but in reality politique in the world of elections in this specially to my other esteemed colleague and by the way my best to you and your i think it's wonderful that you're on the hustings well what you have to realize is that there is reality and there is theory that what we've talked about up till now is theory and it sounds great and you're so right but when it comes time for the
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election mark my words he is going to destroy them because right now in july the democrats are going to meet in milwaukee and they have absolutely no idea no vision no platform and yet instead of telling the american people what they want to do they spend their time talking about trump and we know that what kills people is that this man came out of well i'm not saying we are wrong we're not saying you're going to hang on let me have let me have that but i don't want to start not getting married on the great idea has that what a great at all i don't know but hang on you know it i know not everybody but my point is here hang on everybody and i'm kind of agreeing with all of you in different ways here and i'm going to go to ian right now but my mantra about all of this is that it's the media that will reelect the donald trump with all of his
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flaws is his empty promises whatever but the media is doing it again they haven't learned any lessons whatsoever they won't focus on issues they focus on him and trump loves that and he thrives on it and you know what he controls the narrative because of the media does this and the left has no guts whatsoever and go ahead. i rose and that's why do you hail anybody at 1st oh yeah sure one of the secrets of donald trump success was stealing bernie sanders oculus policies wholesale and adopting them has is old and barely sound it's still there with those policies which are seriously addressing because what that it didn't come out of nowhere he came from a highly privileged background the property speculators and wrecked renters and landlord as in new york put that money got himself on television made himself a public figure with the blessing of all of the people who are now deriding him by
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our way through i was i was a lone voice when i was saying this guy is a crook and a failure why you why you are praising him like this and by the way in case you say that joe biden is no friend of mine i think what he did was despicable it's right but it's his son the risk who is here and you cannot visit the sins of the son on the father caleb radio new insult in answer i it's on tape the quid pro quo biden admitted to it on tape and he was gloating about it so she you know a plague on his house i mean how you get rich you get rich in politics why because it's pay to play ok soraya been very very patient jump in. he has let me tell you i mean that's what little is talking about reality versus theory or what not that's not a reality that the american people want they don't want people that are fake they don't want people they're going to give them empty promises and you're talking
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about the media that's just the one true media is probably pushing an agenda but they don't give a chance for anybody else as a 3rd party candidate i can tell you how difficult it is as a libertarian to even get into the national media because they don't want the people to know the truth and they know that that's what we're talking about we're talking about the truth they only want the same selling points the same well that's been a brainwash right buddy as are going to move public opinion i don't want to educate it but i agree with you there is a political monopoly and it's very unfair because public opinion polls have shown repeatedly that people would like other choices lionel you raised your hand like a good pupil you may jump in. my dear brother peter pains me to say that i knew that he was going to say i knew this was coming i knew this is going to be them the media the media have not been responsible for anything they have been neutered i neutralized this
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genius this stable genius 4 dimensional chess master came along and said i'm going to use this instrument pushed them aside spoke directly to the american people and won and we're going to blame everybody let me also say it also disagree with my esteemed colleague here in new york they are going to not vote for him despite the media but because of what donald trump did because we always we always relegate the american voter to some idiot some little puppet some rube some cure wish board originally go there what was the pictures of a no seeds a letter was used and by the way if there's one thing that americans aren't we know all about libertarians believe me they know who you are ok jump in go ahead. well i mean the concept of both ways here say you're not the great american voter i was the one that saying the great american voters would actually see through trump and
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that was dismissed as college talk and intellectual as i'm you know liable to use the word a real politic which is you know spelt with a k. it's a german word it's used in academic matters and foreign policy a 1st how do you think that goes down you really state that all of those evangelists out down south of voting for trump because he was my his real politic they wouldn't know what real politic was if it stuck up their nostrils and trust that now come up you can't have it both ways you can't use intellectual arguments on the one hand and denigrate in selection on the other which is what trump does by the way because he think he's a good one you and your honey i know me a light ok i'm let me ask a question here we're rapidly running out my not understand hang on i know i want to ask a question we're rapidly running out of time why not i think that donald trump is going to be a real reelected and he's going to be reelected in a big way it's not necessarily because of his record it's because of the people how
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they have campaigned against him with the compliance and backing of the media i think that the enduring legacy of the 2016 election is when hillary clinton said the plausible and that has stayed with us to this day because the media is constantly telling over 16000000 people their deplorable line or give you the last 55 seconds go ahead. my dear friend it is because of the fact that we have record record the lowest rates of unemployment wall street is going crazy and despite what everybody is saying he is looked at as a leader and he's looked at by the american people whether you agree with it or not it's sort of american who strikes fear in our enemies that being said he's going to be reelected. all right ok all right i mean he's made friends with the enemies keep going serai we've got 20 seconds go ahead oh lord no no this is this is ridiculous i mean i'm sorry i really i'm really sorry let me tell you something if he wins at
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any point it's because the democrats don't have a viable candidate and america and the leading are not giving the libertarians a chance ok we need to be able to be on the media with equal opportunity airtime so people can get to know who we are and what we're about and then they can tell and judge for themselves well time to really. figure out a politically and there are many thanks to my guests in austin and in new york and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. unix famine remember rostock rules. you know what i mean you get there so you can think about my last book i don't mean you guessed it i don't mean not new dorp or not this is kind of where i want to be on course if i'm not big now i think it's higher than the.
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