no not until you so be called visionaries me selfish eric not sam well the noble calling 900 there isn't a single block just all in our have to share those are and it's been a different format for now but it's better than not talking to each other right well to ask all the important questions about coronaviruses i'm joined here by our just resident dulce dyer press michael sam war of. michael welcome to the show so many questions about the ongoing me so there are

a lot of truly dabney diseases where the significantly higher mortality rate and 19 a ball of fire is 40 percent of the inside. bird flu 39 swine flu 17 how met this fire it's not the world's deadliest by any means the whole planet on a lockdown. joint you. all are just not all well if actually this specially but now the work that. we here. which is. deadly for the motion or for. elderly people here near shanghai why did you. get in there and i think it sir. are going to level off let's say left

or even smallpox saw if you have a certain group which is. select. high level of more than. make sure bruce was not necessarily understanding all. young people are not effective as much. but now i mean the before we get to the age groups there under risks do you think you can potentially become something as donnelly as in 1976. actually millions of people. i think the main issue was spending new world situation the war situation you have to know. first of all it was the 1st time civilization actually went on and the much worse civilization that people want was. when there are

a specious went through a new packaging or the law. which influenza in corona are they. first time this happened of course nobody knew what to do nobody actually . in on talk or does it we were that was the 1st war the millions of you who are dying on the field and the who cares if you know somebody in the civilian side of that window and that's i think again that's all this cordial the musée called a special latest version and now they've become incredibly incredibly. select i'm junk i'm in good health i don't smoke and they tell me i should worry about the current marriage because if i get it i'll most likely have a mild form of or you know i don't risk death as much as elderly people but do we

know what the long term acts are carrying 19 can be i mean came in for instance or raising the risk of lung cancer in a future chance show salinger's and other organ systems no no no we have no data on that that's on lists us. or you know now everybody's become suddenly. it's not day don't do that whatsoever we are very mild if you just wrote or a disease that's lake there you know viruses. if you want and that you know evidence that it's any chronic or. station to any kind of. cancer or years old. i. mean i what i'm saying you know as a new inspection nobody here or any and we're all like you know entire population of the world is not protected this is the biggest issue because whoever's get the wires that the person will be. right but.

it's only a small portion of the people who will be actually in the. in the monday dollars who will have the. show that's only 6 percent will have a disease need to be hospitalized if we hear future. life forms what you describe and that's you know quite simple diseases and. disease in we have i don't know maybe you know where just after they contact with while they have and then people wonder they have never been there one that's why i want one outbreak is stopped otherwise how will they are that the measures come along guys you have to realize that all the measures on you can point to disease but not prevent. the gun so we know you're safe don't you who are.

ok so here is the $1000000.00 question dittos in fact it will cost the $19.00 develop immunity. let's say i get me and my way clear to get it again later yet influence out for instance or flu or and not never going to get it again absolutely you're developing you do you will not and never get that again that's yes that's. a neat. list. we know that charice you remember this you will virus. dude of course mrs john. the bad. you have are oh why didn't the protective immunity what ages 5 years who don't know because nobody told you no it means let's say this way what we know now that

they are on the all of it will probably give you the same 5 year old girl and he was no notice. here i have to tell you the story our it was a some go public asian also called secondary cases are on the violence and anybody that was listening to us will say oh michael what you say you will need to know they have a secondary around the wire stations and some people in india die yes that was a war of death in one secondary. case we have 2 yards. that's created by us that's going to eat it but human. are all the control we have the test. is a test which is give you. any test give you your own finite. salts was it you date it millions will take someone who isn't logged into it at all

right and who wants one concern that the person will be what will be positive. but in the ana to persons not sick. what's hampers this is a person who you would immediately get and build that kind of give that is if you have none of them they will poor human it. was. 10000 other people who are positive what's happened to the 1st person to get the disease is infection and the person who will be discharged from the hospital union inclination period just develop the whole disease because it was an act and that guy again jets best to get in infection and they will say so what he's saying is and basically eastern mismanagement of humans that leads to the 2nd case at 19 but not that it's you get it once you can never get it again or at least for 5 years right absolutely ok so

look in china the credit virus most aggressive at the very beginning and then it became less scary as a lot of people who are getting this flu lexington's and some that some they never have symptoms are not sure we expect that could 900 will soon change into an ordinary respiratory disease that will be you know more or less harmed. yes that's true the very beginning the 1st time i resent the war russian. magazine and who are the i said that any zone. in the beginning is a vanity of year wani because viruses are all horst everything is the wrong part of our lives and why does everything require the phone or. goes through the 1st cases the 2nd cases winds. and that's why it's was occurring we in the more zillions type of the reasons we have more severe and less severe and less of

years will be example of the career they have now great but they have only 0.5 more again a month but it's. what is going on. still when we look at condemning. it follows like a common scenario as far as i understand it starts. then it sort of appears out doesn't mean that you can adopt all kinds of strictest measures her entire state is a lock down but not only will work until the critical mass of people gets in fact it until it peaks is past us yes you're right but given it's not going to work if you really clear the population of all the others you're ok but it's not the goal of the country to go there we're all just see slowly we're all

get sick was in a month just in the medical system will collapse record. number of bad people but even good system of clean industry. you know yes that's our main goal is to make good or make a load in this case we have several hopes 1st the older sister will continue to work a 6 year. old severe she will have a cold and not enough health for their. second we were waiting for the treatment that's when it close now we know the name of the outsider in the trial and speed up trial the people working on 7 or. so dan we waited for the last gander everybody is going crazy about once and then when he's working on it that's it means it's going on you saw we hear it's the whole studio issue.

lol down there that's what the current you know michael m.t.v. show rate right now when we come back we'll continue talking to you to my knowledge instead present of time perhaps institue eichel some were talking about all the real things about the cold 819 stay with us. your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world

know what's going to happen and when it's gone. but they haven't told you and they haven't told me they haven't announced. imagine something as big as the earth is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes are going to wrapped and it's going to chill. so very for a while right. my great grandfather's court. nobody would care about the law or prison so you'd have wallace the should have. a terrible life between though and the. show seemed wrong all right old fellow just don't call. me old yet to shape out these days become educated and in dangerous equals

betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart when she still looks for common ground. i can't show you mine but i'm going to get my story in 1993 this man was sentenced to death. they could charged with capital murder even though he didn't have the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for that week with his telephoto a 3. hour drive that abu. dhabi. can find within 4 gray walls he fights using. art help him to leave defense room.

and we're back with michael sam warren sapp humala just talking about killing 19 michael there's a question that bothers you know it's rhyme being told and i understand you've confirmed that some people and. the. the same happened in college 1000 but not feel it it's not have any symptoms. absolute majority of their own so you don't feel anything like no house no no nothing and that means that i can take as many precautions as i want and not seal

the collet when i have it and in sac my parents who are 60 plus if i leave wasn't right that's that's a biggest issue in the us. that you have what you came to your parents in they get air they might have a severe disease that's exactly the biggest problem whatsoever here and that's why the brits actually in the big general dollar break they said ok guys you get young guys you can go go there well you know your life well you can go to the closing because it's very. isolation complete isolation. so what do you think is the the best approach i mean the whole herd immunity that britain was going for but didn't truly. do it at the end or what people are trying to do now sit in a lockdown prevention measures and sort of you know prolonging their way to. cope with 19 to spike i think or silly person in

a somewhat broader records it's you know one way or that's a dynamic process because it's a dynamic process something happening beginning something happen and something happens to be solved it's all different stage of the bit and it's it it's on type of. response which we need. in this case what did they they as max possible contacts among young people with their you do not herd immunity embezzling elderly unfortunately. moment of pique which they go through as a hero to many cases too many cases say enough to stop it because. they're traveling new case in here they. ask people who died as a nurse and doctor to come to the hospital and it means that the system is all the

lower end it's way to break now they lock up the city don't go anywhere you know because it's a pretty much immediately spot because the buyers ration period let's say one week and if you lost a. lesson. i think it should be one way or the other like any other country they just look at countries and hope for the best yeah but. you can look long. on the what the does it mean that the herd immunity doesn't work so they're there to be if everyone is getting really sick and there's such an overload account system and they're asking for the retired nurses and doctors to come to hospitals to get their hands that mean that the whole approach occurred and it didn't really were. no i did not. in that. one great britain working out adequate system all 3 can elderly and

probably because we don't have a test the air we have already. people in here i think you are thinking. but in any any other example we are like where. italy or where they are going to get what we owe and to spain where they track a lot i mean that's. your conclusion is possible but unfortunately all this. question was only answered. with. well as a whole is there any way of knowing that and how do we know when the worst i in numbers are coming and can we predict how big they will be so that the us could prepare windy days i think it's in my face book it's not. just the war because you are stressed i question you all outbreaks cows develop.

in this year we did hear that all of the well it was a say you just put real numbers of today that go out and you'll see you know plus minus you know. cases a day but you should know how it's going to be in your in your urine yes that's. the what exactly are health care systems missing to be able to deal with a large volume in fact why harney missing it and 1st how do you think that a medical management has worked in war it's wrecking on the number of necessities let's say was a normal break wareham the number of hospitals the number of isolations number or. equipment. the thirst has to build our. nation it means year to year somebody is already using the sick or somebody already.

here nobody build that extra intensive care for it and certainly on top of that even just the cases what to do with what to do with people who are any of the equipment. that's because it's additional whatever is additional we'll never we're always focused on it because only and do not spend any extra money it's nice if you if you have allowed that's the extra. you need the extra resources in the. silt and danny well i'm just looking at it globally do you think endemic is a sign of what the next decade will be like sars was a minor nuisance compared to this is it only going to get worse every time. no i think. humans well that the size was really bad but was contained.

too long to such a huge. population as a current civilization and what do we if you get all the way around if they called it came during the summer starring no will he never even socks the death knell great they proclaim realize their go sols and miles from just. their bets they're bringing them. into this if you and suddenly foam some of them on the. market that's. yes and i think there will actually be if you continue to pick. on the purchasing and all of the businesses which in many parts of the walled people are doing was a wild animals the ball is in story they did big day they found

a new bets which become kind of you know very popular huge especially the flying fox who you know is a star fish you need a ticket to the bazaar if you can. and you get a bully yeah well. it's all the same nor in your decisions was no purpose of environment something or was that was who are. so little i'm sure the 1st wave of measures work and the 1st batch of people actually start spreading the disease the sharon thousands and everyone stops watching and eating while the getting's and in the paris makes a comeback how serious will this 2nd what can we do to keep that. i think a question if you watch for chinese government where they're the wild animals. because of their traditional methods you know they can where all parts of bodies

or number of the big grain jokes of wild animals i used to work in china of exotic bizarre it's almost in many ways me how they feel all this he says of the ending most body bears. whatever but with bats we have with the students to consider that and i think a. great example. where. that's i think it's. easy to put it when you don't want chinese not. who are home doing whatever they want to assume that it was there that's probably the danger they will stop yeah. now hopes are really high and at the barras maybe seasonal rain we hear a lot that you know. there's

a lot of sun and it's humid it doesn't run that last what do you think well here i from the beginning on i was not. with her one that was a cd she might. where i used to offer 25 years a bottle is that looks like or we'll hope well there is just an all and then i found some internet ended. well they're not on my work in central asia i just came back from. where the very location you were in central asia location i don't number. 4 diseases or they're all diseases in central asia right now and they show that the influenza low level officer authority says last year during the last season it means yeah and he says many people but then how come it is raging in iran it is raging in saudi arabia i mean economists pretty hot even

right now over there now so sorry if there is too late interesting question i don't want to go there but i don't think it's a very big if you end it it's not some very very small iraq it's a nightmare. in it's again the result of human or. italy italy is a fuel there is a do not know the 1st game what was 10 days including the danger here 10 days in a hospital will do this if people do it on the simplest i'm doc it was a virus distribute 10 days is a long dark and civil war scare on iraq. we only have like a minute or 2 laps and we may just sort of perhaps. get a little rest in managing 1000000 dollar question but 2 questions when using it will it end and how soon are we going to get a vaccine i think it's. within 6 months like.

china. at the end you go. what do you mean i think some old get it will need a year in the midst of the world was it was an. amazing speaking. of those questions that are bothering everyone. stay safe stay home still might.

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