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greetings and salutation. on a chilly tuesday evening with the full moon high in the sky here at this house of big gambles and long shots the political world here in the united states was shaken to its very core because it was here at canterbury park in minnesota that the former wrestler a hollywood actor and the mayor of brooklyn park minnesota jesse ventura shocked the world and became the 38th governor in the state of minnesota today and watching the hawks we will look back on that historic win and take a look at his time in office and the true changes that he implemented and the things he fought for in his battles with the political establishment and the
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mainstream media so take a journey with us as we celebrate the 20th anniversary of governor jesse ventura. so what do you see the street with a thing like real with a tree this would be the last page from the bottom of. the ship. with a like you that i got. with it we. would see this this is. what caused me to run for governor i kind of french myself to help us celebrate and remember the 20th anniversary of the political campaign that shocked the world former governor jesse ventura was joined by several key figures in his campaign and administration campaign chairman dean barkley bill hill's. but the campaign
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advertising guru and political strategist. running mate and 37 year schoolteacher made. and finally the communications director for the ministration john wood and dean barkley were really was the one that got me interested in the 3rd party movement because i've always been anti democrat and republican and in my neighborhood up there all of a sudden i started to see nice barkley signs for congress or senate i forget congress barkley barkley and all and i kind of thought who is this barkley what is this independence party at the time who are they and so on i got involved there and i met them and i realized that the majority of the independence party a great many of them were disgruntled democrats and republicans who feel the system's failing and they want something new and so and i felt that way also and so i supported dean when he ran. to make the long story shorter. dina's for man in
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minnesota they have the annandale 4th of july parade and he asked me to walk in it so we're walking through avondale on the crowds going crazy but they're going crazy for me you know you're not a team and i'll never forget he leaning over to me and whispering there didn't have to whisper it was pretty loud he said see the wrong guys running that was the genesis that's when the white ball went on the line you know it was my hometown it was a little embarrassing. but he completely really did. and i just wonder this popular would translate in the political popularity and that's where the idea how my hand and that's where the thought started we had a great big budget surplus because the economy in the ninety's was super strong and because of the taxation rate many. they took in billions of dollars more than they
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needed and they spent it and i was doing talk radio and i was just outraged over that how dare them that's the people's money it's not. their kids'. money. and i made a statement on the radio one day i said maybe i ought to run for governor you could sense the feeling out there that people were looking for something else and weren't getting it the center's never represented it's always the left on the right on the far wings and the center is made to pick. the lesser of the 2 evils i guess. that occupies the center the left and right them can make inroads. that we needed to ya. voters who did normally vote so i figured there's about
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24 to 25 percent that are already voted for an independent with ralph as ok then what we have to do and you're right we had to expand the electorate so we can get to 25 but how do we get to 35 to 37 and i figured well the young voter doesn't vote for it out for me we can motivate that walk of voters to take a chance and show up we had a shot we did the 1st part of the campaign and that we played you story well what you do is you do exactly what you go to bed at which is whether you did you go to the people still using it even had like it's on and on would you describe it to flood luxury to your video will fly but i mean you think of a governor campaign you can oh you can understand or picture what the other side of the diallo not only during their perilous at the times you know good thing but as one of the campaign was let her read caroline a little dollar
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a day before and we were as i and drop dead all 3 the line of the campaign manager was a poll to have you know there's a bolt out if you are at them and i know he's running told he can't make this stuff up knowing it was it was a complete. it was as grass 'd root as you could possibly as early as he's 34 people down doing things that was yeah i remember dean taking me to a debate i think was the twenty's public telephone right and we were sitting in a cafeteria or something watching this debate and that was when. i just decided you have to work for jesse because he was so different from middle in those debates so you. might. see him means that you were actually part of the strategy or you were there doing the numbers yeah we we really did we had. really good voter targeting gross as well and the other thing people
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forget about this campaign it was really the 1st effective use of the internet yes in a political campaign. we didn't have a feeling is that the feelers ations people e-mailing other people but there were some pretty big indicators people forget the context of the entire race we were at the state fair the democrats for some reason that still eludes me invited everybody to their debate so jesse would show up other 3rd party candidates show up and every time i'd watch these debates go on. everybody would be nodding when jesse spoke so it's not hard to figure out if you're at a democratic primary event and there's 5 candidates in the democratic primary and this guy is the 2nd choice of almost everybody there you start to go through this is a very different dynamic than we've ever seen before if he's the 2nd choice of all
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the democrats that's pretty good that's an awfully good starting place when i initially ram there were multiple opponents because i was in the debates very early on before the primaries even came around but when it got down after the primaries it got down to the big 2 or if you include me 3. hubert h. humphrey the democrat hubert humphrey's son the former vice president's son and he was the current attorney general. maire norm coleman the mayor of st paul who they always saw i found it very interesting. that humphrey was always referred to by his political title of attorney general humphrey coleman was always referred to as mayor norm coleman and even though coleman had no more mayor than i did i was always former. jesse ventura so why was the only candidate that had his
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private sector job put in front of his name where the public and i have been a mayor so should shouldn't be former mayor jesse ventura because we're talking politics here but that's the bias that i faced but in hindsight that was probably good but if they did name the other 2 was private sector jobs i don't want a landslide because then it would have been former warrior skip pomfrey and former lawyer norm coleman or some of the substance of those debates was really surprising to people and other things that happened in the debates had never happened i mean they would ask. questions and skipped as the family disease of luxury is so he starts talking immediately and you can see him trying to formulate an actual answer as he's talking so uses up his entire 2 minutes they give the same question to norm call it he starts talking right away he's trying to make his points he gets
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cut off because he's going to go over they ask jesse a question he says yes. and they say nobody knew what to do they say would you like to elaborate on it and and he says us mean question i gave you an answer. joe nobody knew it to be nobody and i don't say you know history of politics or ever not use their entire 2 minutes to say something i want to piggyback on that now because i don't need mean and said yes and. i'll never forget the moderator did have a sense of humor because i looked around when moses stunned because i said well i answered the question good night on the moderator of the new web yes let me repeat it so at that double song get him into the crowd good and all that required was a yes or no right in another debate it. as of friday night and the 2 other
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candidates are all dressed up. jesse shows up piecing is football coaching outfit you know anything like a sweatshirt in and innocence yeah i was almost x. yeah right there and then just banks people relate to somebody like that you know it wasn't all show and then finally there was the 3rd debate where you told that amazing story about the gay wrestler whose companion couldn't get in to see him that he was dying of aids i mean i heard it sprung up all over the state when you said that there was one of the most affecting things i've ever seen wallet how can you have a sign telling you who you love and who you don't get to sit by your bedside it's dying for your remote in an emergency and because you gain you're not allowed in there who's your insanity you know and so and i think that. the fact that i didn't you should know children. you know people knew that that the
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answers they were getting were true would from the heart the truth was what if you were looking in. jesse ventura and in the campaign from the outside as i was that's what started to resonate with me it was it was the truth and you would also often use examples of truth telling no gigot gave you 2 things that took place for debates i said number one is tell the truth just don't want to think never to see if you don't know the answer minute yeah it's fine it'll make you look a real person you don't have it all there and just perfectly knew your performance than your beat you know you want from what beginning as september terrier shares am going to push up to the mid twenty's and we hadn't spent one penny an effort to ising in that mob i think we did a couple radio at that was set. and that's more we got into position actually when
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snow dares thinks. we dare to ask. i can't show you my faith but i'm going to teach you must story in 993 this man was sentenced to death. they could charged with capital murder even though he didn't have the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for that week but he's done it for $23.00. i doubt that i've observed to be. confined within 4 gray walls he thought it seems. to help him to leave this room.
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early on in the campaign you know we did that we we did look at you know some of the results of we're progressing the monks the groups. naturally my to stop still on level 07 extrude way high and sold the chances of me becoming you know i needed to be softened by felt i felt strongly that i'm and sold told them i'm sold the ranch that that put a family a lot of people i actually was polishing my kitchen. cabinets and i get this call and they said my name is and i am on the committee for justified tour as a candidate for governor and i said. and they said we're wondering we would like to ask you to be his running mate i said no i'm
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a teacher i'm not a politician i knew that he wanted somebody who had a background in education because of this lack of experience with education to do that in the schools and such i thought well you know i do not have i think i had about 30 years under my belt at the ready of being a teacher and i knew the schools from the children point the parents point from the administrators and there were a lot of things that i thought need fixing so as i met with my family they said well you're near retirement you are always talking about how to improve education and maybe this is your opportunity so i thought about that so the next day i got a call from jesse asking me if i would be interested in being his. running mate as lieutenant and i said yes i will bill so i was from that point
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i was so excited because i could talk about education you are crucial to the success of the stick to i mean there's no way i don't think the jesse lives without you on the ticket because. you gave it a certain sense of gravity to us you know and education is so important to voters and to this day i don't know if people would remember your name but they know they're just going to run with it teach or seeming is confident. and we're discussing in the senate we should do a victory tomorrow do. turn to your house the 1st time it came off ploy you know what 2nd until our and i go. over the state of minnesota in 48 hours or 3 days i had your us within our vienna meter cellar. and our guest sat there as low as a surrogate in a film as
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a was ira and he says well we should use the internet and do some live shot outside of the front end of build some momentum saw you know i said then i says ok stop doing everything else and let's break this i'm happy that was another thing that nobody had ever done before i mean people have done bus tours and stuff like that before but the whole rationale behind it was this is the next navy seal campaign is committed. will be campaigning when they're sleeping 10 miles of pete would go on the road john and pam here's right through the cars behind us with with balloons with all those follow us and then as they'd leave others would replace them so we're going gaming people everywhere who go to rubble status wasn't exactly a well oiled machine so we would be running sometimes 23 hours behind and we were going all night so you'd show up 3 hours late at 2 o'clock in the morning to
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someplace homework yet and there was still a tremendous number of people that are a nuisance sunday night these people got to work monday morning these are farmers friends or people that they'd waited there for 2 hours for us to arrive when we come out and it was unbelievable i mean people hanging at midnight in willmar minnesota paying off the building and of course the other 2 immediately imitate it so it's skip poetry goes out and gets a bus and he can't get anybody on the bus or to show up so they end up paying people to be on his. crowd gets old and norm coleman has a bus that looks like something out of the music man i mean the whole thing they must spend way more money than we spent in the entire campaign on this bus because the bus would roll and they'd roll out the stuff that be like a stage and all the sound stuff an army get up to
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a song and dance everything gets rolled up back in the bus off to the next stop we've done a lot of races and i have never seen people work as hard on a campaign as your people did and they were almost all volunteers all staff and everybody was almost dead at the end of that bus trip but they saw it through and it was an amazing success in fact i oddball bread. we hired below us cruces and agent that she job but everybody else on my campaign the only person that got paid was dug from the line and that's because he had to leave his job full time and take over you know the campaign for the party so we paid doug the equivalent of what he made to. one poll today this is truly a people's campaign i don't think we've seen anything like it before since the democrats other parties talk about their get out the vote program all are volunteers all this organization they have this was a situation where the people in minnesota organized themselves we were driving
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there to canterbury that night early evening there was a strange. circle around the mood in the sky that night to truly was because i remember my son and my wife and i all looked at me and my son was in the back seat and he goes dad something something strange is going to happen that you said to me on the way. in and so we went out there with that expectation but when i truly realized. it i always believed i could win but believing in the actual. 2 different things but what got me that night was when word came in that the lines to register were longer than the lines to vote. that to me was the key you know we have same day registration in minnesota and i thought that's the key these people are not coming up to vote for the status school
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they're not waiting in line to vote for skip or more they're waiting in line because it's their 1st time and i'll just state this i can't tell you all 6 of them . how many young people have come up to me there and it just makes me feel so good to tell me always you know you were the 1st person i ever folded for and that to me is the reward. more than anything of ever being the governor was the fact that we had that type of impact on the people they told us were untouchable w.c.c. you know or we have that morning in their little political process yeah the university of minnesota i'm a girl lives around the block for young people registering to vote on a watch and that's the 1st time i said make out we may have done it because that was the missing piece that i didn't know the whole time or are they going to show
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off i've never seen before or since the initial returns came in with the you had 37 percent and you never moved i've never seen anything like this all out is yes all night it was 37 percent and coleman was trailing and he made a little bit of a movie at one point and i thought well that's the end of it now call him and wins but it never happened he will never get that it was interesting because when the 1st ferry returns came in the very 1st it was right in new york humphrey coleman e. the 2nd returns came in humphrey ventura coleman i moved up to 2nd and then i think it was what 5 for. percent was when i took the lead. because they had a 3 percent to 5. that they came in with the. last 2nd the 1st real amazing thing is that it was skipped. in the debates thinking i was
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going to take republican conservative votes because of fiscal conservative it was the opposite. like 46 percent. where he was all the time i was. it was. always within the margin of. never went up never went down i'll never forget the fact that we were in the back and i had already gone out once to the crowd and they were. in and i said no i'm not going out until the election for i'm not there just to go out there. i'll never forget bill was right here to my right side. on the t.v. set the for mark. jesse ventura's being declared the winner i don't remember which you from c.b.s. or a.b.c. i don't know who made the 1st call but then all of
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a sudden the other 2 came right along and. there was only 60 percent of the vote. and they were declaring me the winner. everyone wanted me to go out there. there's only 60 percent of the vote. i said you want me to walk out there and declare myself the i should want to. be the biggest laughingstock in the history i said i'm not there yet and i'll never forget bill sitting there call me quiet man. he looks at me. and said you trust. student sure i said yes bill i did he said trust me. i said. i said bill there's 40 percent of the phone left how can you say they haven't been wrong in 50 years because you've got to go all the way back to do
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it right here true whatever zachary 50 years. and 50 years goes you are the governor elect and i remember all of us huddling in. there to try to figure out what to do next and terry who's the unsung hero of this campaign. was crying ashley because she did not want to be 1st lady despite the fact that she turned into like the best 1st lady in minnesota history it was just chaos at that point and i remember the other memory i have was when i finally did walk out all those volunteer cops were nowhere in sight all of a sudden there was like 12 smoke. around me and. everyone out of the way. it was like almost you got taken over you know you got taken over your life was no longer yours anymore. it was
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a case of in this election we're where. we really were a loose knit group and just as i said if you if you saw behind the scenes when i made the statement the night we won we shocked the world if you would have been behind the scenes you would have truly understood what that what that statement said before we shot the world because in all you know we we had great people. we had no money. to speak of i mean the dems and repub said elections what 12000000. you know but he proved to me. that money.
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when cash did beat sonny liston that night and won the world heavyweight title i always remember his famous quote we shocked the world. and that's how i felt that night i felt like. i shocked the world nobody gave us a chance but we did it. micrographs friends aren't slights against you know whites or men for example there's their sites against women or nonwhites so it's always you know the idea is that statements that directed toward a privileged group are interpreted differently than
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a statement directed toward an oppressed group and so that's kind of the whole framework and it's it's a political framework that's used the result is of course focusing at least on certain kinds of minor slights and saying well rather than a northern door then we need to call attention to them but it's not all slight so it's very political and it's fun. with the. oh. my.
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hey folks dennis miller here next up on plus one dana carvey what are we going to talk about i'm going to say hi i'm going to hang on for 30 minutes and i'm going to say it's the best talk show guest on the planet. hey welcome to dennis miller. plus one happy to well my dear friend. now cast member he well to me carvey's the best guy has ever been on saturday night live you also know from wayne's world his party on is the funniest sweetest man in the world dana carter isn't that great how come and start with this nap or t.v. it's not even a joke.
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