coronavirus climate change and concerns about reopening the united states too soon will cover all the angles on this are taking. work from the politicking on larry king live the program director begley jr will join us to talk about his environmental activism in the time of colbert 19 but 1st the virus has our shit in economic anxieties unemployment woes and need for federal go an action to help people who are struggling chris lou joins us for the lead in congress ation on this edition of politicking he's a veteran of the obama administration he served as deputy secretary of labor he is

in arlington virginia but course the trumpet administration recently announced the plan to open up america again is that too soon well there they put out a series of guidelines that will leave this up to governors and i think that's the rational decision and you see governors on a regional basis whether it's on the west coast or east coast that are going to make those decisions in conjunction with their neighboring government governors and it will be based on both the. case that load in each of the states as well as their tasking capacity. the administration recently tweeted it's time to liberate minnesota michigan and virginia what do you make of that i mean this is a problem you know this is a president who a week ago said he had total 30 to make decisions about reopening and then after he received pushback bipartisan pushback from members of congress he sensibly left that decision up to governors in conjunction with public health experts laid out

a series of guidelines that made sense and then obviously this is a president who wasn't fined leaving things as is and is now apparently encouraging a supporter to rally in state capitals to try to reopen the government reopen that economies and the problem is they're not only putting themselves at rest but they're politicizing something that really should not be politicized at this point minissha will rescue package for small business which 350000000000 that's gone already did accomplish what it was intended to do. well we'll have to wait and see according to some news accounts the money or lisa bulk of the money went to some large or small businesses an important understand that in this country a small business is to find anything with up to 500 ploy or so that's not necessarily the mom and pop delicatessen or dry cleaner that many of us were hoping

that this money would benefit i know personally of a couple of business many businesses that have been left very far back next year when we're not able to get this money so hopefully congress provides another tranche of money that will continue to expand the relief to more affected business a christian republicans that resist the democratic effort to send money directly to states to mow calories what do you make of that i think it's a huge mistake you know. president trump has now shifted the burden of testing potential. of people infected with covered nights and he shifted that burden now to the state but he's not willing to pay the state or help the state defray those cock we know in new york for instance governor cuomo said that he is now running a $15000000000.00 budget deficit and state like the federal government don't have the ability to run deficits and he has indicated that if you let the get relief

from the federal government he's going to have to start cutting funding for education which means that teachers look at furloughs he would also have to cut payment a hospital which means health care workers get furloughed and that's obviously not something that should happen in this period of time and so the rational thing for congress to do would be provide some assistance the states are in this very difficult period. americans filed for i point $2000000.00 jobless claims all together pushing the 4 we totaled over $22000000.00 is that going to get or it is going to get worse i would expect several more 1000000 people to apply for unemployment for the next a couple of weeks at least and to put that in perspective that 22000000 people filing for unemployment has not wiped out basically every job created since the great recession and and the reason we know it's going to get worse is because we know that the ripple effect of this economic slowdown has now reached additional

industries that hadn't been reached the past things like manufacturing and construction and white collar in this race we also know that because of the new legislation a lot of people who previously weren't eligible for unemployment get corkers for instance or part time workers can now apply so that's going to inflate the number of people plying as well. the president of the federal reserve bank in st louis predict to the united states unemployment rate could reach 30 percent in the 2nd quarter this year is that is that hard for you yeah yeah i mean it seems on the higher side but i think given what we're seeing right now at this moment right now we're probably around 15 percent unemployment will get the full numbers in a couple of weeks so 30 percent seems high but a lot of it frankly depends on how long this shutdown of the federal government

goes on for in support i'm saying that's necessary because this is 1st and foremost a public health crisis and we need to address the public health crisis then the den address the economic damage that's created and so while the number might be high and it might not get to 30 percent will certainly be in the twenty's but i expect that there will be some bounce back later on this year but i think unemployment will continue very high for the forseeable future. jerry's doman notion predicts the u.s. economy will recover from the effects of the corner virus epidemic within months he says it definitely doesn't think it will take a year how long do you think it'll take i think it'll take years and i think there's a v. shaped recovery that 2nd term in nature and others are predicting i think that doesn't reflect the reality of what's happening on the ground right now what we are doing is we are shutting off the u.s.

economy to deal with his public health crisis and then when we turn it back on it's not going to be like flipping on a light switch and everything coming back to normal mediately it will come in waves based on regions of the country based on certain types of industries and a lot of this really is dependent on people's sense of confidence about whether it's safe to go back outside whether they feel confident in spending money given their own economic situation so i think we're going to be dealing with the effects of this downturn well into 2021 if not longer what effect on the election. well it certainly takes away one of the big if. advantages that this president had which if he was planning to base his reelection on the economy obviously that won't be the case now and i think the challenge for him politically will be show that he is navigating this crisis and he's helping to resolve it in a responsible way the downside of course is that the democrats will make the

argument that this investigation waited 70 days to take proper action and it's continued to fail to provide states the resources they need to test people as well as to help people recover who are infected with this virus chris lou as always thank you for joining us thank you eric. this week marks the 50th anniversary of earth day actor ed begley jr joins us now to talk about that and how this time of copa 19 is impacting is environmental activism for which he's so well known he's also a 7 time emmy nominated actor and currently lord of the stars of the a.b.c. series bless this mess good seeing you again ed thanks for joining us larry it's always good to see you. how how are you in the family doing in this crisis we do very well here our but eyes but civil guard in an arm you know i'm doing just

fine is a lot of people out there going through a lot of hardship so my heart and soul goes out to them and i know we're all trying to do what we can for the out of the 1st responders and the people the medical personnel and everybody there are heroes of the front trenches so trying to be of service any way i can to them and of course always consider the environment as our doing all my other auctions what's been the effect particularly on the environment of coban 19. losing one good effect that's coming from this if you will 'd that is when we look up and see these blue skies in cities like l.a. and other cities in america houston bakersfield that normally have a lot of small we go look at the world can be like without so much fossil fuel and small inclusion is something to aspire to you can't be hunkered down like this we don't want to be isolated like this that's not worth the price of admission to get a cleaner environment cleaner air or we can have both we can have a clean environment and good green jobs and green transportation you said that you

were fiscally conservative in your early days of trying to live in an environmentally sensitive and sustainable fashion or changed. you know i got all my environmental ethic from my father my father exactly sr is not only a wonderful octave a wonderful man he was a conservative the like to conserve he was a son of irish immigrants it lived through the great depression so he simply turned off the lights turned off the water saves drinks a tin foil shop at the time the earth they rolled around in 1970 and he died within a few days of the 1st birthday by the way i was very motivated to do something because he always said to me i know which are against some against the smog too but what are you for what are you doing about it so i start recycling i started composting you know turn off the lights even more and i even bought a 1970 electric car believe it or not and i did everything i could to do my part to clean up the small would you say that you dad was kind of

a pioneer and then as he was he was of that age of people who'd lived through the great depression simply conservatives the way they lived and so i wanted to do you know what he had done with his life and i didn't have a lot of money after he passed the 1970 so i couldn't buy any solar powered some fancy stuff but i did everything i could afford a start riding my bike taking public transportation became a vegetarian oh you know buy degradable soaps and detergents composting all that kind of stuff that was cheap and easy to do and those opportunities abound today for people who are limited in comics not all about i flew in solar so it panels and stuff there's lots of simple things for people to do to protect the environment and to save money what's the most environmental change of scene in say 50 years. i proposed what we talked about that 1st birthday when i got a call from 970 from 97 to date larry we've got 4 times the cards and no white millions more people but we have a fraction of this morning but in l.a.

long enough to see how much better it's gotten even with all those people on those additional vehicles there's a lot of small we did that together everybody did what they needed to do to clean up there 'd and there's plenty of jobs cleaning up out there with catalytic converters made to put on cars cedar you know power plants spray paint boats all that stuff big and small that we get cleaned up there are no light now we gotta clean up the whole world and stay right there we'll have more politicking right after the break. are you. better off long russian and line says. i'm a journalist it's all i know being

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welcome back to politicking we're talking with ed begley jr is 7 time emmy nominated actor currently one of the stars of the a.b.c. series bless this mess he is in los angeles what as disappointing to you most in terms of the environmental moving in the movement in the past 50 years what disappoints me the most is people think that you have to lose you know fiscally to do the right thing for the environment that's not the case there's certainly plenty of jobs in coal mines that are oil derricks and refineries but aren't there also jobs making wind turbines and solar panels and like to cars and energy saving thermostats l.e.d. light bulbs insulation all that stuff those are all jobs to green jobs jobs of dignity and now with the price of solar wind plummeting we can do those green technologies in our power production we don't have to pollution just stop a kilowatt hour. in the area of legislation are you happy or have we

a long way to go. we have a long way to go but we've achieved much success the reason the air is cleaner in l.a. is not just on the actions of people like me who bought electric cars and did what they could it was a clean air act signed by an environmental radical by the name of richard nixon he signed the clean water act the clean air act and that's part of why we have cleaner air it's good legislation like that that has helped us do what we need to do to clean up there in l.a. and many of the cities so also when you really look at the the cost of things the cost of a home of people look at the cost of a home is the cost of you know labor and materials that's the way we figure the price of a home but what's the cost of running that home over the long life my house here i've built out of steel so it allows hundreds of years over those hundreds of years this house will last what is the cost of you know energy and because i have the 9 kilowatt system of solar pounds on my roof solar hot water all the other green things that i put into this home 12 inch thick walls 10000 gallon rainwater tank great water system everything that i did to make it

a greenhouse makes it short on grain in the long run that is to say need a little greed or money to operate and that's good planning. nixon was an underrated president domesticity would mean. he certainly was what he did for the environment with the clean water act and the clean are very good you can get into vietnam and some of his missteps but that certainly was something that johnson did as well too and kennedy there are many people who did the wrong thing in vietnam but as regards the environment he would be considered a moderate democrat today yeah he would the read a.b.a. recently announced it will not expect compliance with routine monitoring and reporting the pollution won't push to penalties for breaking these rules critics accuse the trumpet ministration of essentially a license to pollute during the penn demick abuse in that way. yeah i think it's a mistake to go backwards on the environment with our health 'd you know health

issues are key when making environmental decisions and making fiscal decisions because of cost a lot of money to take care of sick people with all the respiratory ailments and you get living near to 0 pollution a power plant or some other polluting and ity you know emphysema. all sorts of pulmonary issues we need to have less pollution not more so it's a good time to invest in green technologies the way we've been doing it's been good for us to get off foreign oil to clean up their inner cities and ultimately to put money in our pocket. terms claims that the united states has some of the cleanest and sharpest air and water on earth and he said he wants crystal clean air and water everywhere what do you make of that. i think it's something that is doable but i think if you need to do that need to raise the standards for energy efficiency going to have lots of subsidies for people so people who can least afford it can do the right thing and pay for insulation an energy efficient lighting those things you get a lot of bang for the buck those things that cost very little can save people

a lot so increase energy efficiency and how many federal subsidies more or if you have a good environment a lot of people who aren't getting sick because health care costs a lot and do those things that really are good financial planning for the long run i hope we're all in it for the long run what are some some people concerned that the coronavirus will slow down by halves even a direct mail the climate change issue do you see that. i hope it doesn't because of the price of not dealing with climate change is going to be very extreme we see what's happening in cell florida now miami has flooding on the streets you know often during the year we have lots of other coastal areas that have flooding the idea of millions of people being displaced and bangladesh and places like that because it will address the people that really get climate change you've been talking about it for decades now are the people at the pentagon military people know that makes us unsafe and there's tremendous global danger from not paying attention the climate change and they've got military bases you know base of sea

level naval bases what hobby the cost of moving those bases and adjusting for sea level rise is a big ticket item for the pentagon they know an insurance company knows about it it's real it's out any news soon climate change playing a part in the election. i think it will to some people the some people who don't care about it who are dismissive of it they don't get it but we really are an unusual where than usual time in our history we're like fish in an aquarium who are and how to nibble at the controls with no idea what the consequences are nibble at the controls of climate with what we've done putting all the c o 2 in the air and all the problems with plastics and the ocean and many other extreme problems a diet of coral reefs and signification in the ocean we've got a lot of work to do a lot of work to be undone but we can do it and there's good news financially if we do it right you talked about corporate responsibility in all this in the mid so you concerned with coal but 19 that would wish monson billiam the environment maybe put

in the back door. i hope it's not put in the back door the back burner i really think it's very possible to do the right thing and you have to get the corporate entities involved there are 3 pillars to make good environmental change number one is what i've been talking about for years personal auction you're getting the light bulbs and changing you know all the things in your home in your life cell number 2 is good legislation like the clean water act and the clean air act number 3 is cook responsibility all 3 pillars need to be of the same size and equal strength and you need to do all 3 of what are clean air in l.a. or anywhere in the world and that's what we need to do and focus on all 3 of those on think over 19 has done has a significant improvement in air quality you think when this is all over we'll go back to the same old same old. we've gotten the taste for this wonderful clean air that we've had it certainly smells great every day our skies in l.a. look more like albuquerque skies than any were like l.a.

i think i hope we have a taste for it and i hope we see after we've gotten a handle on this coat in 1000 predicament i hope we see if we continue to have clean air. a cost of treating people with other respiratory ailments goes down and out i think that's there's a price for dirty air and that price is not doing anything in health care costs so we need to consider that when when we're making our decisions environmentally what is the cost to do nothing of the pollution and the cost is extreme i think what do you make of young grant of them burg. credit has really inspired me you know i did everything i could before i ever heard of her or knew of her and i decided to do more so i made some changes i never thought i could do around my house early how they but they call it leap plan i'm home that's a green a song that built i did out but i did a few other things that i've since discovered that can make it even greener i've

changed you know i used to fly rarely now i fly never been this long before the coker 19 going out and flown all year nor do i expect to in the forseeable future so i'm trying to i'm trying to continue my by inspirational effort for her and her generation i have a 20 year old daughter and i know you have kids about the same age i want to do something for them so they have a plan of something like what we knew or are you are you happy with the way things are good as you've always been you do things on your own you don't wait for the saw a society a society to catch up yet will feel yeah you're alone in the wilderness. i used to fuel very much alone but now i see so many people you know who can afford it putting solar on the roof and buying an electric vehicle or people that can afford it doing simple things like changing up the light bulbs and changing your thermostat to putting up weather stripping taking public transportation back but that's a good idea medically to take public transportation i hope it is you know riding

a bike when weather is that is permit all those things are inexpensive that's what i did when i was wrote a lot of people who were broken and need to do things and make good financial sense i get inspired when i see the cleaner cleaner air in l.a. i get inspired when i see the cuyahoga river near cleveland doesn't catch fire anymore done a lot since 1970 or up the course and keep doing what he got against why. well there's a certain amount of pollution from flying in jet fuel that on the lead a very green light here are right around in my solar charts electric vehicle i'm not using any fossil fuels but when you get a plane you know you have to use fossil fuels 'd a diesel fuel is basically i'm sorry jet fuel is basically kerosene with a moat retardant put in it so you're burning a lot of kerosene and so i i stopped flying i want to see how long i can do it if i have to go along to do it on my test while they are charging stations across america i'll report back to that see how well i do but i haven't flown for quite

a while now since critic i'm on the same i'm going to try to stay with it but don't you feel like you're a little bit alone i mean everybody flies they do but people are getting by now in a very few people are on planes there's maybe you know a dozen people on the plane or something i've seen some of the pictures of it it's possible to live without some people perhaps can't live without it but i'm a person who can live without it and certainly if i ever have to travel to new york again or halfway across the country it's something i could do at tousle i've driven cross-country an alternative fuel vehicles before and found fueling stations so that's something i'm going to see how i do but so far so good i haven't flown in nearly a year now is the anything and your previous life you miss. what i miss in my previous life or the spending so much as unfortunate i just i have had to hives but i i guess i certainly miss my dad i miss people that are gone but i

miss i'm a miss. you know i miss a lot of people like bruno kirby my dear friend of doctors gone i miss people that are no longer with us but everything in my life is very fortunate and so i have no regrets about anything that befall i may but what i regret is not not doing as much as i probably could how that i want to do more certainly with the people who are in need now with coach 19 i'm trying to do something every day for the people and help and there's much work to be done. was it an event the cause or environmentalist. it was a slow effect of smaug on my lungs i was a young man growing up in l.a. except the 20 years of breathing in that small organ wheezing forget about running around to play are just sitting there it hurt my lungs so after 20 years of that i

was really committed to doing something and also i knew about the pollution in the water because i could go down the santa monica bedi and see it i heard about the pollution of the coyote river it caught fire and another way in a positive way the inspiration of seeing those pictures that came back from the moon that that buzz aldrin took i think with the hospital all these beautiful photographs of the earth in the distance we saw it as a thing as an entity as one thing and we started to behave accordingly and protect this fragile water plants that we call home and so i've been inspired over the years and hope that inspiration continues that we're with people like read up. on callers day ed begley jr day thanks so much and is all as always good to see you larry thank you. and thank you audience for joining me on this edition of politicking our guest has been ed begley and remember we going to treat me at king's things that don't forget to use the politicking hash tag and that's all for

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