thank you thank you thank you. greetings and salutations here in the united states as we get deeper and deeper into the fight against coded 19 we are seeing more and more news stories and expertly crafted publicity campaigns calling attention to the hundreds of thousands of doctors nurses and other medical workers and support staff who are quite literally on the front lines fighting to treat and save the lives of the more than 800000 u.s. citizens or infected by this virus they deserve our thanks our praise and our support new york governor andrew cuomo aptly referred to these workers as quote the

troops fighting this battle for us. but while the praise and heartfelt thanks are unquestionably appreciated many in the field are starting to wonder if our poll of politicians banks and cheerleading will amount to nothing more than the than just words and pageantry much in the same way that those politicians treat our military veterans all parade and no real help or substance new york position elizabeth mayor recently pointed out a very sobering problem for our health care workers writing for the intercept that she observed public health public expressions of support for health professionals are meaningful but they are also insufficient to drown out the deafening silence from capitol hill in response to mounting cries for relief measures chief among them educational debt forgiveness you see because we here in the u.s. do not consider their good work as vital to the infrastructure of our country

unlike they do and say the united kingdom and other nations around the world quite frankly it costs an arm and a leg to become a doctor or nurse here in the united states of america and sha goes on to point out almost 70 percent of all nurses whose who's who staff the truest front line in this pandemic graduate from training with 4250000 dollars in debt in fact according to shaw's estimations every kovac 19 patient in the hospital today here in the u.s. is more than likely being cared for by a group of workers carrying over $1000000.00 in student debt to their names. that is that that is simply unconscionable and my friends that means we had better start watching. what's going on a city street you want to. see rises joyce

state. rice graves see this least systemic deception is the late show which. brings joy as. we're going to watch in horror. and i don't mean that i mean this is again we've seen kind of coded 19 this pandemic stripped away and expose a lot of the problems that we have in our culture and i think this is another one of those things that god expects pose to in the u.s. is the fact that you've got doctors and nurses people who are putting their lives on the line their expertise to approach to fight this thing and they're doing it saddled under you know 4250000 and upwards of that in debt they're not even get out of bed and i think this is an extremely important thing to highlight because your average your average citizen isn't really thinking about when they think of doctors may think about nurses they see these as highly professional careers these aren't

for the most part hourly positions they don't think of them as low wage jobs they think of this is something that people are getting back from even though they they paid heavily into their education i think that articles like the one you mentioned showcase and we're seeing a lot more of those come out and nurses and doctors speaking out themselves about why the not only why the industry is losing a lot of people but also why you have fewer people actually coming down the pipeline because if you know that you're going to be saddled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt you're going to be facing something that could could be another pandemic who knows and you're putting your own life on the line every single day what do you do when. they're your parents your children everyone is going to get saddled with this debt when you can't pay it back that's very true those were true and we talked about for a line in the c.d.c. right now estimates the roughly 10000 u.s. healthcare workers reported having covert 1927 have died from an as of mid april just in the united states but they strongly say that the actual figures to that number may actually be even higher than that but those are just the low and

estimates it's really i mean it blows my mind when you think about it like other countries around the world they actually some of them even pay people to go to nursing school they actually you know pay they cover that cause you go to the u.k. you can go to nursing school you can go to it cover the cost you know why it to me and it just irks me so much that we are such a. we just don't care about people in this country that sort of says to me it's like we we don't know what will you get aren't you going to go out and become a doctor on your own you don't even know you're going to do a job that's going to help people it's just it's not don't you think people recognize the amount of attention that needs to be paid to this because i know when i was in undergrad there were i went with nursing students students who would eventually become doctors they worked 2 jobs on top of their externship swithin nursing facilities across the country so they were people who knew the debt low when they got out the majority of them don't come from middle class or even wealthy families so they know that this is going to be a task for them but they're still willing to jump into this profession right now

over 60 percent of the nurses that we're seeing in new york city and other cities across the country that have been called and are retired nurse and those retired nurses are still paying back the debt that they had 2030 plus years ago when they actually got their degree and i think you broke the good point too is that it's not saying that not all doctors are a lot of doctors there's a lot of doctors down the line especially in plastic surgery no who are swimming and swimming in money you know that but that's when you look at the health care system as a whole you can't just focus on like the one small subject of like surgeons and people like that who make money and make money because of the expertise of what they do. you know that they're able to pay off that debt real quick i mean the average debt doctors are saddled with after medical school this is doctors 2 in 200-120-0000 dollars now imagine your student loan that you're trying to pay off it's $3040.00 maybe $50000.00 a magine $200000.00 hanging over your head that's brutal with the interest rates going up if. it's blue it's also really painstaking process because these are the

people who they expect to go in this next generation of nurses and doctors and it's not going to happen in the majority of places across this country there are and will areas clinicians where you might only have 3 to serve an entire city or to serve an entire county and one of those reasons is because they simply cannot afford the debt load to be able to you know save their communities from potentially deadly things i mean i'm more for it i think that we should start truthfully if we can give you know universal lifting of public school university you know higher education to the people at least start focusing on key groups at least start there and a lot of people are there is actually $500000.00 people signed move petition to include forgiving student loan debt for health care providers and even the american medical association the country's largest association of of physicians they actually wrote a letter to congress april 7th asking for federal student loan debt forgiveness

specifically to health care workers and things like that so hopefully they see in that letter they said for those residents in early graduate medical students with that average is $200000.00 we urge congress to provide at least $20000.00 a bible student loan forgiveness or $20000.00 jewish and we will see if that holds . desperate times call for desperate measures who would have guessed a police union known for its brutality racism and human rights violations would team up with the nation's largest civil liberties advocacy organization the american civil liberties union a.c.l.u. with the support of the paternal order of police is. calling on chicago mayor louis likely to end the city wide checkpoints put in place due to the coronavirus pandemic chicago police set up checkpoints across the city to enforce state wide state home warders officers stationed in multiple districts would stop drivers and hand out flyers to people reminding them to not make unnecessary trips outside of their homes according to the chicago tribune though this public health p.s.a.

in action was well intentioned it didn't take long before community and civil rights groups surrounded and sounded the alarm while c.p.t. spokespeople argue that the increased police presence is part of a public health agenda civil rights groups say checkpoints put black and brown people at risk for increased exposure to cope with 19 right now in chicago 70 percent of the birth of the virus are black according to american civil liberties spokesperson during this pandemic law enforcement should be looking to reduce contacts not increase them in forcing 2 dozen checkpoints each day across the city creates a risk of further spreading the corona virus to members of the c.p.d. and to residents he went on to express his concerns over public health being used as a cover for race based policing tactics the return order of police agreed with the a.c.l.u. reinforcing the importance of needlessly exposing officers to cope with 90. funny how the fop an organization that just

a few months ago argued not only in support of police brutality but against payouts to the families of those murdered by the cops now cares about human life. mere life but has some tough decisions to make will she listen to the a.c.l.u. . will keep moving forward with heavy handed public health policies. that's a tough question put across her desk and honestly i look at it like this like i understand you shouldn't don't put the police and danger nor poor other people in danger look if people are stupid enough they want to get in in a big big old group and stand in their neighborhood and hold hands and call from each other or whatever you know. they're going to do that you know you can't stop that same thing with protests have been want to meet out of the governor's mansion they want to go to the capitol and drive their cars around in a circle they're going to do that these these stand home orders rip remember this isn't martial law the they can't arrest you for leaving your home at least they shouldn't be however it's kind of the uniform thing of the government saying no please stay at home to keep safe you don't need to be putting cops in harm's way

and exacerbating the tensions that are already existing in society through these co-chair corns exactly and the funny thing about this is for anybody who's been on social media over the past few weeks there been means upon means of lori light light laurie lightfoot the mayor of chicago popping up in your fridge telling you don't go there new there in parks and other recreational places soon as you you know open your door and people thought it was funny it was a lighthearted way to show that she's really trying to make sure that the city is safe specifically african-american communities within the city because they have such a large proportion of people who are actually getting sick and dying for corona from coronavirus but the bigger question for me happens to be just looking at these checkpoints across the city where the checkpoints are in many cases these are places that had elevated by less levels already so you have individuals who are saying ok well this is just added policing that is just unnecessary but you're also having police argue that. we want to protect ourselves we don't want to get sick however these are the same police who will stop you for nonsensical things that

have nothing to do with stay at home waters at all you know they're still in forcing various regulations for petty crimes and things like that and they somehow don't think kobe 19 is an issue they will they've got to keep they've got to keep the money machine go and they've got to keep to could do ticketing you and all that and getting that extra layer of hidden tax of just being a poor person in this country especially poor person the colors of the hey you know what we're going to get you for that money that we normally get now that you have to stay indoors will that lou that's our loss of income for us you know him it's sad to see that it's sad too that it's like look at you're going to do checkpoints do them universally across the board if you're going to go to that extent like then make it universal don't just focus on the neighborhoods that you want to call bad neighborhoods or those neighborhoods that you already have a magnifying glass on and you know crushing those people spirit because they do feel like they live in a police state that shouldn't do that the other piece is that the. better off the fraternal order of police and the a.c.l.u. in chicago specifically don't have the best relationship i don't know they have

a long history of back and forth wrangling and wrangling they feel you have filed multiple lawsuits and one against the city of chicago and the chicago police department specifically around police brutality but also around illegal surveillance and several other things as of just last year so it's interesting to see them now come together on this that and that is the oddest couple of couples it's amazing i mean that's so you know that it's got to be like when you see the a.c.l.u. and the paternal or police actually say you know what we're going to hold hands on this one you know like ok them maybe as a city you cross the line you know and i think it's important for other cities around the country and around the world to kind of look at this and say ok at what point is is us telling pretty people to stay home and be safe when does it cross the line and when there's a been just a part of the protests that we saw earlier this week and there's abuse of those classic things that we as a society have to be talking about now to be looking at at what point does staying safe cross the line i will always side on the right of human life i was so you know what staying safe number one priority same time is still going to keep people

credible so they do not abuse your rights in that process absolutely. it is that but yeah i never thought i would see that and what that line looked like because we talked about that i think that's a very important things to know between liberty and public health because that's something that is something that is being grappled with right now even outside of chicago chicago is in the spotlight because of some what many would consider overzealous but what is that line that is that is the biggest important question of the day good question good question art as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on demand through the brand new portable t.v. bailable smartphones through google play on the apple app store by searching simply portable t.v. or stream us to your t.v. by downloading portable t.v. . as apple t.v. or. t.v. this app will be available for devices coming soon and. speaking of coming soon coming up we will be joined by freelance journalist agent car soul and software

developer evil i say off about their project 19 behind bars. which helps track the spread of the corona virus in prisons and jails across the united states really good work they're doing you don't want to miss this stay tuned to watch. live. if. with good reason public discourse is focused on addressing and finally each containing the coby $1000.00 pandemic now the focus is on devastated economy we're in a recession will it morph into a depression will the recovery be you. or an elf. in . his size is that once you got infected then you get the nod and immune response

and so that. protects you against me infection. and with this new cry in a box. it's a very common. many patients who get mild disease. that's kaiser's financial survival they say money to develop. this is a central plank support diatom is kind of common right now it's a stop to. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe.

isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being. direct. what is faith. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. of the shallowness. the american criminal justice system combines almost 2300000 people one in 2 adults in the us has had a family member in jail or prison and incarceration nation doesn't show any signs of slowing down. desperate pleas from justice reform advocates families community

members and activists are ramping up as covert 19 sweeps through jails and prisons with nowhere to turn and time running out there are many questions how can you stop the spread in prisons and jails where do prisoners go once they are released can they be quarantined piecemeal responsiveness from state leaders lease prisoners and their families hopeless and time is running out america's homeless population and its incarcerated one they similar constraints mental health needs unemployment lack of housing and in many cases addiction ed being black or brown to the mix and the endless web of despair it's even more complicated. ways of tracking pope in $1000.00 communities are steadily emerging but not much headway is being touted on tracking metrics for the incarcerated joining us now to discuss a new project designed to track over its impact on prisoners and war is journalist and reporter entering course the o.

and software developer. thank you both for coming on the show there was a lot to talk about in releasing prisoners but the bigger question is what happens if and when they are released you know i think it's good that they're being released but it doesn't mean it's kind of a lot of foreign ground in the fryer potentially because where do these prisoners go now but their release to start with the word room. thanks jesse thanks for having me on i think it's incredibly important that we make the connections between incarceration. and also the housing movement lots of people who are reentering society may not have a stable place to go. and it brings up the question of how do homeless people who are unseen and stay at home when they don't have a home and how do we have her van and the virus that's being spread behind bars from entering communities and further exacerbating it. so people who return to her

will obviously traditional barriers to free entry in the ways that the state has not been able to support them in reentering society but on top of that you are not able to go to the welfare office to apply for welfare if you don't have a printer doesn't matter if you're not able to access the community resources that you're able to and you're also not having that added layer of protection whether you have health care even if you are positive you don't have health care you don't have a doctor what do you do in that situation so if you're lucky enough to go into a shelter. and say that you have addictions and are able to be sober how do we know if shelter. they're practicing. how do we know if shelters are practicing what is recommended when we know by the truth of the car. this is the spreading within prison so there's a real absence of need on behalf of the state to. prevent this from being spread by

people who are being recently released and it just reveals the truth that we already know that reentry support services is pretty not existant for people and especially if you are a drug user if you're. black or brown if you're disabled any of those things can base tremendous varies on top of living post incarceration. and age aren't you touched on this a little bit but what types of reentry services specific to this pandemic do you think are necessary and do you think that they're actually going to come about in terms of having tools once these individuals do get out of jail or prison. yeah i mean it's something to mention is that a lot of these services were inadequate from the beginning because people have been on the street there is a high correlation so even the support that is available to people is not accessible so in particular with affordable housing accessible housing

a lot of is not available to people but it requires a lot of people where you're a part of a lot of bureaucracy a lot of recovery services and programs that would otherwise be available to folks who are interested in recovery do have substance issues or not i. as open as they would be a lot of workers are at home so they're physically you're not able to lay go in. and have your health care as you would if you're relying on telemedicine that's great and all but what happens if you don't have a phone if you don't have a computer if you don't have reliable why. so i think it really raises a lot of questions about the lack of support that we are getting you to be sure you know but on top of it you know how many workers like what is deemed essential in supporting people who are reentering in you know what are the barriers that already

exist. want to move over to you know the 19 behind bars i think is a project is a much needed true community service what you're doing there tell us a little bit about what inspired it what it is and what inspired everyone to do this and how does it actually work. sure the project is actually less by a. developer of the project from the get go i've just helped develop a lot of the tech stock around it but the inspiration for the project essentially was that there is not really any good centralized tracking mechanism for tracking the cases of those over 90 in the prisons and jails in this country. partially because of how. how many different layers there are of incarceration between state federal and county to city levels and also just that

even once you get to like all of those different layers not many of the necessarily publish information particularly readily so the idea of the project was to have a website to report on this information and also to be able to collect this information and part of the reason why is because a fair number of these agencies are incarcerated people are not releasing information on this so the only real way to get accurate information is to. have people. report or have people report. cases that they know of in. facilities was not hard for you to put together as a programmer. how difficult was it getting that information as you said it's you know these people aren't really forthcoming a lot of times where the disease years in prison and things like that was it hard getting that information and then trying to program a system that was easily readable for people to kind of look at home and say oh wow ok this person that mark causing or my brother my sisters and it's it's running

like brand page and they're. mostly for this we were really for shit that google maps as a pretty nice interface that we were to us for that but there were definitely additional things that we kind of do on the side. one of the other things is we've had like an anonymous form that allows people to submit information. is nice because. at anybody when you're dealing with people who are incarcerated is generally good provides for an ability to have more accurate information. because there's less of an ability for it for it should be traced back to. the fear of retribution or anything along those lines you know i think we're having a mission i can both agree that you guys are doing some great work up there and thank you for coming on today and telling us a little bit about what you're working on there and i think it's a good community service that you're doing thank you so much and go where it is to bring all this up. and software developer you are set up thank you very much for

coming on today. thank you for having us. if all the images of wildlife emerging flowers in bloom in clear skies don't want your heart i don't know what will nature is a beautiful landscape an eco system a wonder that we are entrusted with protecting the green new deal and global climate protests reinvigorated and breathe new life into the environmental movement but as much as democrats and progressives have been on the front lines of this in recent years it was republicans they got it started birthday was celebrated for the 1st time in 1970 by president richard nixon over 20000000 people from across the u.s. planned in attended earth a. it is biting pollution and pledging to make our world sustainable for the years to come it was also rickson who created the environmental protection agency and signed the clean water and clean air act though this year earth day may look different without its traditional large gatherings you can still do your part

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as the u.s. economy was booming greening numbers of people were made homeless. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still is the land of updates and the reality of it is we're not financially equality and the lack of affordable housing or living minimum wage give many people neutralise the best been a problem with the city knows turn limits on the police stay away onus for twosomes of concerted effort is no answer because the answer requires resources the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become the invisible cops. one on one with economic advisor to president drum stephen moore on this edition of politic.

well go to politicking on larry king focus on the good life stephen war says the time to start reopening the n.-i the stage for business is now he recently shared a lot of controversy when he compared social distancing protesters to civil rights activists rosa parks we'll find out what he meant by that as he joins me for an end every one in addition to advising the president mr moore is a member of the white house panel on reopening america stephen thanks for joining us. the senate has approved a foreigner naming $1000000.00 leave peg is risky business is what's your reaction good idea. how not the biggest fan of that by the way larry so good to see you again thank you so much for having me thank you i think there are real problems with that loan program it's become a bit of a sieve where that week it keeps spending more and more more money and i have

a problem that a lot of the small businesses larry that need the money the most are necessarily getting the money we made a big mistake in turning out loan program which is something that i supported outloud for support of steve forbes supported the idea who during a time of crisis you want to give healthy businesses that were healthy and that don't have customers a bridge loan so they can get through this so that when we're up and running hopefully very soon that they can they can be up and running and hiring workers what we did is we transform that into a grant program so that if you didn't lay off your workers the loan became a grant and so what happened has happened larry and this is a story that's not been widely tell toll is that the healthy businesses the ones that were going to layoff the rigors anyways they said i can get a free 2 or 3 or $4000000.00 grant from the government and they've lined up for this money and the companies that we really wanted to get the grants aren't getting it and unfortunately we haven't fixed that problem yet.