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thinks. we dare to ask. for their. own welcome to well to part with in less than 2 months our notion of work life balance has been trained and it's had many of us in longing but it being screen used to lol there about our jobs and resenting the things we used to about our private lives the historically unprecedented response to the call with 900 demick has definitely masked our life studying what will they just will be alive once it's
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over to discuss that i'm now joined by you could see in the short run a russian political scientist and a popular you tube or you can tell it's always a great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for carving out your client asking out it's it is a kind of. life balance. where you get to your study it's a kind of going to write a song think brings that kind of that forces you to your day. and in fact i think you in particular have been talking about in merging all work and private life as a major social in a labor trance for quite some time ok you're going to get me there's a. yeah and i'm sorry to say but its reached its. unexpected aparajita with this onset of south isolation i wonder if you have had a chance to adjust to well on the on how do we ave of privileged people hey
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academicians the way you just so leave this way before it was mainstream own down to have it's evident that it's not normal and that he shouldn't conceive it should be like that surprising thing for me was not how easily i have adapted so there was nothing i just said that to. rather the opposite saying i suddenly realized oh maybe i should have known it before this social component of social sciences was always so much against talking sorceress or using inside information i was always saying that it's all out * there in the open source says in official documents but now i see that there is this thing and that's not insider information but this is being in the atmosphere with people and institutions you spread it visiting the evil behalf usually bad that used to be so cancelled so it's such a long time once you are deprived of whole days you'll begin to perceive how the
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quality of your work deteriorates well i hate to break it to you we are social species and it's their lives to bookworms like yourself just as my just to everybody else now i heard me say a couple of years back that work especially a fulfilling work wearing down not just income but other crimes of great vacation will one day become a luxury and i think that nowadays any kind of work is actually actually a privilege especially coupled with a monday to restrict actions on social employability how much longer do you think states around the world can afford to maintain that no go. mountain the world has an interest in keeping its citizens locked up so they know that their virus will go by list your rules and restrictions will remain i think it's a panicky scare idea the governments of the world are very much interested
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in lifting this restrictions but they are evidently and reasonably doing this in such a way as to provoke another wave action i think we shall worry about the oncoming level of poor see that will be faced by millions and millions of russian citizens and people all around the world this will be cared for really. restaurant sounds coffeeshops will come back our services will revive but * some jobs lost will indeed be a lost forever to those people who. are the advantages of working for the state evidence right now because these people received their salaries they knew but was the stain your pro period will be over this advantages will not be over this state has been primary job giver in russia since well since since
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a long time ago but acidic late 2014 the number of people directly or indirectly and debts owed to the state for their cell research has grown it will likely grow even more the course of the. workplaces will be scarse and this is not a very good saying well as the mill state is it is in a good shape right now and regardless of dire political system and i would claim that this is perhaps the most consequential catch 22 situation when there are simply no easy solutions but i also see a lot of a lot of distance done building up around the world and the notion that this states around the world with their. very very few exceptions what prioritized how considerations off a very limited group of people and we're talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population who this virus of plagues about only the die how considerations would be
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prioritized over everything else given where we are right now gee think it was ultimately a good call on the part of the very just to you know to these people and how to spell and ignore everything else to close and they end of the day this is an issue of priority everything has its costs and cannot be the jad she lists all the governments of the world have been acting in a remarkably similar manner as you lot is no matter whether their democracy is all talk process and this for political science this has been one of the remarkable things to watch and to analyze the matters have been very much similar even though it's just laced them and that connects and the poor employed during this week's crisis has very large similarities so it's not the question also although course is being more a fact in a democracy has been more effective rather rational to rewilding in the same thought this scenario rather should tell us that it is so diverse governments have
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the reason for acting like they act even it's so great an economy and what would that be. the cost. well. i heard you say before that the reason why you know states around the world were compelled to behave that way or to react the way they reacted was because of the appreciation in the value of human life and i take a major issue with that because the save lives of obit 9000 patients a likely to come and the cost of many other lives we are talking about you know either patients who rent able to travel well lifesaving treatment abroad we're talking about. domestic abuse which is likely to have increased over the stressful times we're talking about people who lost their livelihoods or mental how because of this a deal when you look at the human cost of gold the andranik and the response to it comprehensively is it's really such
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a humanistic response isn't it actually saving some and more safety in the other we can't ask people for a long term consequences because we're going to have we don't know what would this situation be enough there were no restrictive measures and act as a whole imagine. then it all go away and. we don't need to imagine that we can look at. the example of sweden and it is clear that at this point the number of fatalities. is slightly higher but it's not overwhelmingly so i mean we have some indications that at least you know case in areas that many people were painting and many scientists were painting and submitted to the government it may have been overstated i guess i kind of does a touch of that medical specialists are even listed in economy but i must have an issue with a swedish example we don't ease not conscious that did nothing about it and it cost
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little as a country that did not employ legislative restrictions on its citizens until speeches all school restaurants in stockholm are as a misleading their words and government will advise people to stay at home and a lot of them did. sure also connected to the fabric of social life in northern countries is different from the conference so they do have a kind of course but it's a commendation it's not it's not obsolete i agree with you but it's far more did very response down the blanket ban that was imposed are. recommended in some countries now when i was thinking about it you know what do you do my mind is the culture of this so-called phenomenon safe it is and that we see in some years colleges which creates a moral hazard or college administrators to overreact to every complaint from
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a student and we ultimately imperils agitation and critical thinking and i wonder if together with this common $1000.00 pandemic we're also witnessing the outbreak is all departed governments when they think that it's better to be saved and story even though distraction you may be safe and. you're going to say for a while also just read an story evolved on the kind of consequences that calm our home but when i was saying and even to a little higher cost of human life because. each poses even poses a certain duty on any public government so it can't just say let's let live go on as a den of the sick will get sick somebody will die will try to help those women who . are not with the business as usual that isn't possible they need to share that they take a stance and but be it in addition you feel on your even if this is costly. rationally but then that's the only outsider i feared i don't have time including
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on the russians they don't channel these kind of argumentation but we know that this is a highly discriminate it's a virus it goes primarily after people with preexisting conditions to put it bluntly sick and that you know type 2 diabetes is the prevailing disease among the population and i don't understand i haven't heard anyone are really clearly why do we have to isolate everybody i'm going to become a chokehold instead of isolating beasts is to decrease the population at least have a higher chance of and in that ending up in the emergency care units as opposed to everybody else who has either very slight or no symptoms that told you i'm a very wrong person to put this question to but * what i say. the circumstances let's watch the consequences that's what we're social site is do let's wait till the end of the war on time measures and see how they call an eerie bounce in the
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healthy economy of the us rebound may be quite speedy and that the will will say thank you to it is democratic and then all the credit governments that you told them to trust your actions that sold elasund. the noble cause of the good of every bad everything came back normal effects of this will serve as a kind of accelerate search to an economic crisis or an economic stagnation that has already in all its wake and that'll be a whole different thing in jesus christ we are in. you know kind of and all that and all the best all we do know how they virus but we also know how. they can fix the nation problem battles they have before and we shall be i'm president the oil. crisis which has not altered and began to take real consequences we will see for example a sequestering all solid federal budget will see the budget deficits and will see if they're necessary inevitable cutting off sounding off budget to respond if the
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party melon society as a whole is expecting all their takes or how well you could do before you turn into a full fledged prophet of the our callouses let's take your very very sure that i do know this not only because the we have seen this things before we have survived that if you want some real or a colleague dick prophecy you should i could name a few names. so you know more people back what you did was. so i think already noticed. i will definitely be interested in exploring this bill but a short break let's take a moment but we will be back in just a few seconds if you. are.
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journey has changed american lives but pharmaceutical companies have a miraculous solution opioid based drugs talk to people who are chronic pain
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patient and believe that their opioid prescription is working for them on the remedy be said to know the price at the. grocery dependency and addiction to opiates to long to use that really isn't scientifically justified and i'll study actually suggested that the long term effects might not just be absence of benefit but actually that they might be causing long term. welcome back to worlds apart from the key to getting the show going that russian political analyst economic just before the break we were talking about how common 1000 is a highly discriminative virus which primarily goes to people with preexisting conditions and speaking specifically about type 2 diabetes and other it's
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a ball of disorders i think at this point it is absolutely clear that they need. our help in the area that it otherwise would have been and even before these are dynamic beasts kind of diseases late and deceit disease is also a lifestyle well radie bankruptcy public how care sector is in many countries because of their snow balling cost for example just in the united states they're in the federal budget goals into medicare and about that of medicare it is child of diabetes now the question i want to ask you is about the prevailing social norms of the time being which tree house as our turn signal is she. getting back to a sustainable social norm at a time when society that expected to make such dramatic sacrifices to treat diseases that are easily preventable we do not know the virus goes off so we have
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a lot of data but it's data so far we'll be able to fully judge only when it's over and 2nd i would not describe any disease as it's looked at although of course there is a connection between the old way of life and the way are sealed as also in genetics . inclination or does inclination towards a disease so it's not a thing you can blame a person on for having having made though those 2 of those deployed say can proceed to your original questions about the this specific type of privacy and this is our this is very interesting thing and this is my kind of thing because it's social and it's political. by a policy or by a politics of the way the state or society the role of the media off the lords and early on and on who are the more we interfere so on direct your
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physical action and what things are and what. doing. with your body or what was a body off your loved ones with your children how far can a parent judge for example when don't look to vaccinate their child. before that we've been in all of this our general liberal drop off our my body my decision and if i harm myself a way of making this decision if yes again it's natural it's melting isn't the fear with me society even liberal society made as tall as their parents are relations course on one hand a we stand to perceive the family as a caste. as. a fan of privacy at the same time we as a society cannot tolerate the full parental power over a child the power of the author from the earliest all aroma basis so we do
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interfere our society and legislative systems interfere but it comes to you ses all development well just jail house now this is the logical say for to is perceived as a kind of probably good to be defended by the force the full force of the lawyers forcing states is interesting how this means we will develop but where we may be sure the thing will develop maybe we will see for example * for moments a risk in public places as a customer a thing as we have now those states it's a restrictions on the measured service and now where we got years during the last 20 years that reading search error search oh yes we go straight. to airports at any public location maybe we'll see the same kind of range that will measure our got a temperature who are maybe you are an arab by the way because this is one of the.
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major factors risk factors allo still diseases including comet 98 it's a major risk factor it is going away what you put in your bio. is not going to be on li your decision is or isn't going to be at least inquire the matter of society because and the end of the day you ask a society to pick up the bill for your damaged in later years well you may recollect how the number of scandals rob so it's a recently about high prices for airplane tickets 14 waiting over. actual grams and it was it was a whole host of public questions whether companies have the right to chop. a high price is what it's such a thing with it's discrimination off and now it's that was an innocent debate in the. us so.
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that the question the real question is the question off policy measures how do you . things that you think beneficial for society will find people who are waiting more again as sort of a. cigar or do you know if you teach him healthy lifestyle and teach every a school child to cook for example and in this way you try to make us a science you help. me whatever line between the line between christmas and democracy even make it into a distinction between the talkers in democracy as any other me know that democracy is on base in those. paralyzed i mean the challenge you raise in the united states from called it like to these the highest in the world and it's the highs in the states with the highest rates of obesity and i heard you say recently that consumer
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is we just very directly related to the consumer is amiss here just a comment 19 is going to is not going to kill it and understand just consumerism is a sick mix of well likely and perhaps mentally. compromised individual that requires a lot of services when we talk about the value of human lives is that really because of lives that we have to cherish that me ask you aspire to protect beyond of the united states which means a lot spends a lot on how care is on the verge of bankruptcy how carries on the verge of bankruptcy because it's not sustainable there are doctors who are talking about dementia as types 3 diabetes because many diabetics go on to develop dementia and if you're mad. you know this whole population of diabetics and people who are children will have to take cheryl i think it's a question of intergenerational you know solidarity and sharon it's why should our
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children take care and pay for our excesses you imagine i always children the general generational. as just this is the sort of very healthy people who want have any disabilities themselves and our children are the beneficiaries of this society which allows people to survive which helps people with various sorts of disabilities to adapt and to become members of society so we can't be going back to a start and since you feel when you were born. with a 100 percent says that they're not going to have what you want to be can also go unchallenged notion of personal responsibility and they think you owe your own good how to not only to yourself but also to society because at the end of the day basis and easily preventable problem you know we can talk about authoritative psyches but not authoritarian can actually control what you put into your mouth it's only now
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control if it ensures very where you you know like you change a lot of money both to you in the state and also make people understand that this understanding who you'll meet and the k. tional program not as system of pines and on the police measures that was my point yes the society is going to be more and what diverse also in terms of house and sounds of your name we're not going to change that we're not going to have an area of the blong healthy young people we're going to have a lot of people on that a healthy young. they are our competitor it's now also citizens that they stay or send workers they contribute to society and they demand some things decided from the side but they also contribute so this is the rielle. we are going to leave and we're not going to make everybody house but we have as you say makes asides is currently of bye bye as i would say educating that i would very much argue in favor
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of changing did occasionally programs even gardens and schools the younger of the children the better we do not teach them enough well we don't teach them at all meaning i am there and if i shining there on the body i am the importance also as you say what they put you in their house i think i just think that every child should be taught to cook and every chance will be what what is out it's what and what is not and what is jack for what he should years and what you should avoid oh we are now and very very have and were obese so called stay at home regime which is not real obligatory been in the oven and everybody on many people seem to comply with it i wonder how disciplined you are in observing the city hall recombination. i strongly suspect of being disciplined is rather privileged being able to get severe disability or to be able to comply is rather trouble is that a virtue i can do that i have. to i have some how
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i have certain resources which do not make my situation materially tragic so i can enjoy having my children with me and they can study alive and we have enough devices so it's not something that i did buy my or buy and accept ourselves and i can do all that i can imagine people with different jobs bus drivers to share who are. medical workers cannot able to comply with this restrictions so i am sad for all that and i will and i'll be able to do this for a few more weeks even is necessary to my own house and for the general wellbeing of society like everybody else i do hope it will be over and like everybody else i will be even. thankfully i will be able to meet my students and their son because the conference is all very well but it's not teaching well it is teaching but it's about 25 percent also what it should they i do know how to see that they had the
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will come back. and then just a day then i'd be able to come to your studio and you know there are some instead. of they're looking forward to it but before you say i advice let me ask you one more question because if you know conversation to say the russians is complete without holding our great under pushkin who. won when he himself was under quarantine of the milk's where worse down cholera even though he himself turned out to be very productive. own seclusion unlike what here are i don't think we're going to try to any problems. well that's actually my question of what's your personal recipe a young baby apathy abby a senior that so many people are complaining about these days and isn't that one of the challenges of. isolation a regime that faggot people live regardless of their circumstances they're struggling on the mental and psychological. wistar of our conversation with me
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so that they look quality of intellectual work although it's so varied if you don't but the quality of until actual work is going down in the absence of a societal compact a so what we know yes will we just suffer end of the product the. asaf are just consequences of what i do is i think what they want to also is doing i try to get my scan you know place i had my google calander we sure as my life so i try to go to bed at a reasonable hour work i even started doing some sort of exercises which i never did so i just seriously does all this kind of thank you know what i do i skip it is actually happy birthday responsibility it is they say you're have to keep your immune system in a good shape winds here catch the virus once you me and probably at 19 other areas that you i told you i don't care you're enjoying i actually do it out again having
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my family are with me is a great how our children seem to enjoy the extra day don't have to go to school and they have back parents with that so they seem rather to like it and if they like something a battle we can't get you. well you can tell is always a great pleasure talking to these kinds of isolation is doubly so thank you very much for being with us today thank you and then he'll told watching so they how being take care of your southland help the syrian dance next weekend. for. barker.
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