i'm after towns here we're going underground on the anniversary of the publication of the structure of d.n.a. by british scientists watson and crick and from a country estimated to have had the worst coronavirus death rate in the world bar donald trump's united states coming up on the show the united nations special rapporteur on the right to food on the possibility of coronavirus creating a post endemic world without hunger after centuries of inequality and greed and the bell ribeiro audi elected to represent one of britain's most deprived in-situ the season for example general electric of what could be the biggest country semitism

coverup in labor's history when stuart secure stomach as boss of western europe's largest socialist party all of them all coming up in today's going underground but 1st the un has warned world hunger could double by the end of the year to a quarter of a 1000000000 though even before coronavirus more than 4000000 children here in the u.k. have been growing up in poverty that's in one of the richest countries in the world amidst a record high in numbers of those needing to go to food banks in britain i'm joined now via skype from bodrum in turkey by the united nations special rapporteur on the right to food don't feel well thanks so much a lot for coming on you've called covert 19 inequality on steroids our politicians here are telling us that the threat is equal why this mismatch how we gauge you treat it's not how we receive our conditions. for instance we talk about a very simple way socialist so possible social distancing places trying to i didn't . they're sitting in their very small rooms 25th of them are sleeping nearby

mary is it possible it's not possible for the tocome our. guys that they have coming in really bad or emergency workers how possible they are equal like us that we are sitting in our car and made to keep our foot in the air taught so it inequality is extremely important in the situation well 10 years of a conservative and coalition government here according to n.h.s. figures show one in 10 of those over 60 in the u.k. is malnourished we have record child poverty here 4200000 living in poverty here angio actual the children claims most children in britain live one paycheck away from malnutrition or at least going without food how does coronavirus affect food security even in a rich country they'd look like britain that's that's exactly why i write about it

and if this is before coronavirus the new change is not the only country to develop this problem you know i just think i think the same situation in newspapers follow the news and they were talking about the corner wires impacted wards it on aachen americans or other minority and what was the reason the reason is maybe everyone gets the owner virus but that's. generally human access to treatments or cannot deny access to taste and little are they getting up to look so if you i want ph a pin prime so you will not be able to create your children and that's a very very serious issue and because right now banks are in hands serious kind of action that they're not able to even be. you see when one of your

colleagues a special rubber tour in poverty philip alston came over to britain and said that the tory government of systematically him is aerated a significant part of the population in here in britain the government do you care for it is here said britain is among the happiest countries in the world so so what is it about special report target and our governments respond to them as i say this was the response of the british government forget your reporter statement britain is happy or like this balance it landed me special reporters go to the countries for our mission trip you don't go talk to him people because they don't have a problem if we have to deal with me they're going to be a problem remarked the power that you don't read if you. find a big american it any problem remark not even your housing then isn't generally gay people. are coming to her home to be able to do it and they don't really care about

the women did i actually meant that if you want their household taken care of and then they say that there will not be a need i mean comes to bear. on these 'd are the people you know i believe otherwise of course we are the pitch even the prime minister of new years to me she's got to write respect he was right so it cannot be any governments cannot answer something like dead if they really understand what human rights needs while boris johnson of course did say he was shaking hands with people with grown a virus but his government has authorized 645000000000 pounds of quantitative easing for the city of london and for the foot sea how would you prioritize financial resources in developed nations during coronavirus obviously $645000000000.00 a lot more than. there's going to health care services if you aren't living in

a democratic country meaning here to be able to. keep the government. so we have to your relatives government is going it really goes to the big corporations like to thomson 8 too big to fail the corporation that they got the money to go down and then others will be able to get it i don't actually been a possibility in east hampton from the time is. rather than being to stop the blood of because the bottom is suffering right now because there you have it the thing is while britain obviously doesn't have migrant workers or it needs migrant workers to be crude our largest manufacturer is an arms company be a systems what do you think about the fact that obviously britain exports arms say the use in weapons in yemen we need we are told by british authorities we need

those jobs we need to be manufacturing what i already as opposed coronavirus when britain britain of british economy is obviously going to be hit by coronavirus i just say give it your actually test and their armed assailants are one of the major budget for the u.k. who are kind of. very important expert stricter but also live industrious suffering and why don't right now what they are doing many of the climbers are trying because they are gamble productions that are in the air right now. because there is no migrant workers actually many european countries i meet you know trying to to get them early migrant workers from bulgaria and romania and bringing down bank took make. very little shift sounds but. it is also

very important bigger or not then you'll be able to will be is significantly have to hear that the british journal citizens have it and then the inequality for that act trying to talk about what about sanctions because the un secretary general has said that we should countries presume we nato nation countries should ease sanctions on countries like venezuela cuba iran and so for the e.u. does have sanctions like the united states on venezuela do you think you got any response about sanctions i should say these countries say actually humanitarian goods are exempt from the sanctions so far nor be e.u. and organizations that are dealing anything on that humanitarian aid is there and principle should be excluded equally amanda but in the reality because your heavy not in humanitarian aid we have to make a priority it doesn't go far equally to everyone well donald trump says he's not

sanctioning humanitarian goods for iran obviously he is threatening the militarily right now in the persian gulf what about the fact that you know the united states has been accused of piracy of hijacking protection equipment for doctors and nurses any possibility that they the countries are basically being using piracy to stop food from getting to countries in this battle against coronavirus so i don't know about the pirating is it just very puzzled why they try to have these and tie sayings from it however from other countries in the united states and the congo and it was call emergency sector our our immediate center or mr serry and any kind of a sector have you heard of any response from the i.m.f. or world bank in terms of debt relief because the u.n.

world food program is now claiming that we will see the risk of biblical proportions quarter of a 1000000000 on the brink of starvation and that starvation will be the next pandemic. that out in this report actually it came just this late in any case not surprising for us because this report comes in every year and unfortunately this report there this 260 packed 1000000 kind of they are predicted or $135000000.00 right now is in crisis if not the cause of it so they are getting out there to cope with the double or be donna then be critical of but to program except of director. davis a very important message will be since the world her tour the major major problem in the cost of starvation classically 19 could be disasters well

all we're in britain is a private company is being talked about the same from the white house massive multinational companies the need for them to be our closest allies in combating coronavirus what sort of reset as regards world hunger and food security do we need after this pandemic is over as i can see your return see it is united nations where i had to obey organizations from at trade your progress our special report. the are living in the global if there is some problem in some part of the work then it will be better if it took other spartak the dark distance and made it conscious maybe did not have a problem in the log time shocked on everyone in the problem but the wrong long term not kurdistan's the biggest staple. exploiter countries are u.s. russia china there are ok they have d.v.d.

now. in their their houses but the countries that they are meant to import taxes. that will be a very serious problem for now there is why they are getting into nation on. the trade this system should reconsider kind of emergency rules in this period to take care of the country and say to them how sorry i consider them how the consider the rules how are tearing down trade barriers that they're wanting terry not trade barriers for significant stuff for instance what is this paperclip the horror. and right this should be available our car every month start their exports for all of this staple who should not make the limitation in order to keep the full of for their own

people i'm not saying they can't give it away but they must be some kind of they all shipping some or there are any given day to the other it's mounting so they're to leave physics to me important to many developing copters and many in this to more countries are suffering promt for in that it changed to be stop it in this period so or even the longer or reduction of the. intestine rate there are none so priming show meaning a global institutions can do it and also cross state governments are responsible to make it look policies for their own people it's not only international. community but also nations governments should be responsible to take care of their most vulnerable the 1st us was rather that they care. thank you very much after the

break newly elected u.k. labor m.p. bill ribeiro of the on why she wants the secret report on anti semitism the threatening court action against anyone publishing house in the open conspiracy revealed in the report may be the reason why boris johnson is in charge of britain during a global pandemic. to going underground. nuclear sort of in the group of. people birth. going to get it. really walking into a word don't you know we no longer know what we're walking into. march. which is

what she needs to break she. not. to change her hospital. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. welcome back why is it that boris johnson is theoretically running britain's.

coronavirus response obviously he won december's general election by a landslide but could it be that sabotage within the opposition labor party helped elect recent tory government because a secret report that labor leaders against armor doesn't want published appears to show his allies conspired to elect the tories for more i'm joined by an m.p. an act of the december general election who signed a letter demanding starmer publishes the allegations including secret whatsapp messages labor m.p. bill ribeiro he joins me now via skype from a constituency in stratham south london thanks so much belle for coming on you signed the letter with the people who've been on this show diane abbott richard bergen clive louis ian leverage john mcdonnell kate also more lloyd russell moyle claudia webb and others they've been on this show your with them what is this letter and why are you demanding a report be published by suggest common. me 8 it was very shocking to read all of those instance in the report ringback that the version of it that was late

it's clear that there's more of it and it's obviously not in the report is the report isn't anti semitism. and actually i think the report was in. contact surrounding the labor party h.q. behavior page here and i think it was a bit focused in that report on the handling of anti-semitism complaints as well and and especially on a lot of the things that were going on particular was happening during the 2017 general election now everybody knows that we if we literally had $2500.00 more votes like a party would be in a very different position in fact at the time 2017 generation is actually working as an implicit vies i thought diane abbott and i remember the week after the general election before the tories did a deal with the p.c. even then it was still very uncertain as to what happened late that is that pounded

streets those that work so hard to make sure that we achieved a labor government they feel grown out of them and if we are to move forward as a party if we are to move forward as a party that can win and we need to address these practices and make sure that no former factionalism ever comes between us and what we stand for as a party national we stand for in terms of supporting our constituents and making sure that we get a labor government that would deliver for people if that's what the report says and obviously it's a seeker of all why i would suggest amr currently being praised greatly by the murdoch press and the right wing media in this country why would he threaten court action say against this program if i was to mention things in the secret report. i mean one thing that i would say is that at the moment. there are some individuals names that were mentioned in europe or now in in terms investigating and probably

an intensive process it's not right that it should be released with individuals names we have internal labor party processes i think we should be going through them and you know stuff members are members of trade genius we are a party of trade unions and we should be making sure that we take action within our procedures within i don't i post final question steve that you you've been in trouble for mentioning the report it's i mean they're part of it are already in the public domain and people are having why discussions about well obviously obviously we did buy that you are not to post the report which is in league anywhere but i suppose it has relevance because the main opposition shadow help spokesman during the coronavirus pandemic is married reportedly said recently separated to a woman who care starmer once or certainly wanted to become general secretary of your party emily old now. who has this person. could she be

general secretary after this report in fairness to stammer of course he is conducting an internal inquiry. i mean what i would say to that is that we have a general secretary and i name is jenny who will be in as far as i'm aware there are no moves for us to have another general secretary even for internal party breasts anybody else's name comes up it's probably not advisable lost people under investigation to be acquitted into positions that more importantly shouldn't even be in discussion because our general secretary still very much active in working why do you think mainstream media in this country is not interested in effectively sabotage amidst western europe's largest socialist movement. i mean i i've been significant number of members of the party found that particularly bizarre that the mainstream media isn't really jumping on this issue obviously there are some benefits to that in that the labor party are not playing out yet

another spot in public and it was the i believe it's about hostility towards the previous leader and i think things might have been different if if the medium words are hostile towards jeremy corbyn and in the very very pointed attack and they laid on him made a massive difference to attitudes and that people had i mean you find people talking about them not liking jeremy or not really knowing why and i think the media definitely has to take more responsibility and want they put out there under very clear that of the different media outlets may have different opinions but nothing should divert them from reporting the news factually as it is and no causing sensationalist and you know kind of ideas about individuals for political 'd gain that that's what went through your head given they used to work for the shadow home secretary diane abbott when you read the passages about how the media

were in fact tipped off as your previous boss diane abbott the shadow home secretary was crying after what looks like bullying in the report i mean for me i was particularly sick man and i'm i again somebody that is what they're i see the culture of the party i'm not shocked that people makes that comment about her but there are there are levels and and there are levels and to see in black and white was particular statement but not just on and working for time and i've seen firsthand the level of the beast that she has to face on a daily basis and to think that members of our own party were involved in it is horrible but not even just diane's location at some point in time can be a matter of security as much as anything else and that it was so willing to. close and you know some people could do step up for anything else and it's basically were it was disclosed i understand why it's against channel 4 news we invite the editor right here in news on also lord mcnicoll is implicated we invite him on the show to

his detailed in this report of course surely he'll be able to say jeremy corbyn made him a lord after the defeat of the labor party that doesn't look like the idea that jeremy corbyn was against lord mcnichol who seems to be implicated 1st trying to sabotage labour's chances of general elections it's about how we behave as a party i can't think of a single form a general and secretary of the labor party has to do. something that is done i think and by the sides of the house it's clear from when the report was was published and things like this may no have less is there really been. people been able to prove that i have to keep reminding our viewers that the relevance of these internal labor matters is to how britain is today responding to coronavirus britain has been affected the worst one of the worst countries in the world its

response so how could it be possible given that people knew there were and he corbin people as presumably they're empty stomach people in today's labor he would be cheering on the defeat of the labor party at a general election we have what's that messages within this secret report that starmer is threatening people with court action for revealing that show the disappointment that that they have felt within the labor party that they came within 2000 votes of replacing the tories some of these things are not necessarily surprising and whether it's very very different have proved over and now i'm not sure when it's i don't know the details of their who i don't know when it was or did i don't know when people were able to get home. that particular bit old evidence there i don't you know i think jerry could be very clear about an image of who it is a party moving forward together and i don't think he's the type of person that

would want to. cause bridges in that light that is very different to find that people acted on these things and that there is evidence they actually on these things the united nations is alleged that the agency ran by sakia starmer the crown prosecution service played a part in the torture and arbitrary detention of julian a songe who published the work of whistleblowers understanding what you do about the need for redactions to protect the identities of some people in the report are you still surprised that the 1st reaction from dahmer was anyone who reveals elements to this report will be prosecuted or killed that he'll seek the prosecution of those people. i think it's very and obviously they. kissed on angela angela verena and as leader deputy leader of court for an investigation into the matters they've done that the 1st that i do believe that

that response was to illegitimate things that could arise and could cause the late labor party silly glitches so i think i think it was more for the protection of the party and i'm in some ways rightfully so it will definitely cause issues if you know legal action is taken against the party or its members for actions and on the most disturbing allegations of anti semitism that were widespread distributed across the media in the run up to december's election in which you were elected what did you make of what looks like attempts to cover up or certainly stop the process of investigations of anti semitism that were occurring among his allies in the labor party h q. i think fastly any form of anti-semitism displayed with their own hands he's absolutely should be rooted out he is is very worried that that appears that way and justice me looked into our processes and procedures when it was raised that

complaints were been dealt with properly and jennifer being sick and leadership of that situation and handled and started handle complaints in a swift and swift manner i think it's important that we look at that as well if we are going to change the culture of the party room and gender to make sure that with meeting and people's expectations when they raise complaints we're going to have to go back when we find that they haven't happened. and that many instances we. will have to get you on another time to talk about the 5 release of circus dahmer and other people are getting money from allegedly an israeli lobbyist but i want to talk about corona virus because you represent a constituency in one of the world epicenters of corona virus do you really think that more lives could have been saved if a labor government had been elected without the sabotage in this report in 2017 is

the n.h.s. in the state of the n.h.s. crucial to understand why britain has done so badly in its response to coronavirus . people keep referring to the coronavirus and our efforts against it as a fight and if you talk about current us patent that rotavirus then you have to realize that we started with one hand behind our back and that is because it take is it was sterile and we started a place where we had you know i have a 40000 vacancies for les's and other health care professionals in the n.h.s. and i think it was at up not the 10s of thousands of vacancies for special kent workers and is a situation where we had an immigration system a hostile environment which deliberately to 10 people from coming over and waking in send positions so you have to look at that context when you look at that point as you see that a labor party a labor government would have made

a big difference to that and you look at some of the policies that the government i'm putting forward today all of these policies for greater public spending all of these things that were very much part and parcel of policy or has joined the 2017 general election one of the things you're ridiculed for was free broadband in the $21000.00 general election and i sent you believe we're going to come out of this with a generation of people that believe that group around is a right and especially in a situation like this. thank you that i have a child we'll be back on monday to further investigate the countries of the by so-called free market economics politics i don't work for combat one of our field i watch out enough to get to join the other guy to you to put it out but in reality. there's the us economy was booming gaining numbers of people were made homeless.

you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still is the land of our. it's the reality of the we're not financially equality and the lack of affordable housing for a living minimum wage gave many people new choice you know that's been a problem with the city knows turn to bitch and told me stay away i almost. did that. because yes that requires resources the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become the invisible comes. for years i had treated patients with heroin addiction with high dose methadone which is.