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he has ended how has the humanities changed how has to come back to psychology changed after the end of world war 2 to consider this and much more i'm joined by legendary film director screenwriter producer. heads up filmmaker producer screenwriter an actor really great to have ownership of today so many things that are going on 75th anniversary of will work you were born in the middle of world war 2 you grew up in post-war germany you've seen major change in the course of your lifetime do you think humanity is collective psychology has undergone any kind of significant transformation since world war 2. of course it's cindy frank she is now in the advancing and we live in a past in which i still have
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a very strong ethical eye memories of the very end of the 2nd world war. actually told them it was not really you his memories start when you have 5 or 6. very 1st memories when it was 2 and a half years old it was very shortly only 2 weeks before the maybe 3 weeks before the end of the war before the german kept its relation. i remember that my mother wakes. rockley up in the middle of the night it was cold and still. she wraps us into a plank is both always in the rings in dresses up on the hill being behind the house and she says boys i had to wake you have to have to see this the city over 1800 ms burning in the city over wasn't timed it was they knew about the city and its. 5060 kilometers away and she said the city of heroes and i
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missed earning it be looked into it said of the valley the entire as you see when you have when you see a failure see the flickering and since it was so far away and it was so the entire sky was opposing it was orange and red and yellow and it was slowly posing a sky like this in complete silence and i mean you know there was something big going on there was only 2 and a half years and you know this was big and then you would it was a danger out there and the world was different than what we had had so far and i became curious what is the world all of. and then another shortly afterwards when the americans arrived germany's restraint constraint in strength in the east rest started to a true occupation to mean the battles in from the west bridge is strange and
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americans and the area and in bavaria where he grew up. was one of the very last minute elements it was located in finally it was overrun by americans and salami and i remember. i met for the 1st time a black man. and we had only knew from fairy tales whether it's blakemore is maurice and it was an african american and he was very very big he was this type of shaquille o'neal. basketball player very big very strong very heavy and he had a wonderful voice and maybe not a soul of me sitting with him next to the slopes behind i was and it was talking to him fallis and she asked me then you know what i said and i said this was
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a wonderful man you know i meet a black man and he smuggled there for the. voice a wonderful voice i remember is waste and then you will be. more east africans they were wonderful people and they sank into me and until today when i see a black man in a seasoned type of shaquille o'neal well they like me in their day. so those are very personal echoes that stayed with you forever. and there are so many like you little boys who are poor in the middle of it and even those who underwent the whole board rule to do you think not personally but as a collective psychology. has it changed for people over the course of 75 years do you think the collective psychology has changed since world war 2 and
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the few think that it has that how. unfortunately you have to speak of. generation that grew up in the ruling so so we only knew there was a disaster it was a name to. an entire country older cities. into into degree into ashes. everyone inmates in a race. we knew there was something not right in the real not to be in be took a look at wanted him. to as. is something that he's not going to have. and of course it is alarming that we see. race is rising it's a dick and. you have. a right wing wolf.
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the right. thing we know they sustains or simply have. you know about 2 years ago in 2018 a german foundation has conducted a study that was aimed to find out germans assy towards the past and almost half of those paying part of told that they don't think things like holocaust can ever happen again selflessly when i talk to my jewish friends that they're like well we're not so sure because people need to be reminded that truss it is that when you know we went through all the time in order for that not to ever happen again what do you think do you think they did it the indication of this and it half of the people that will not happen again. good enough indication they actually want or do we need to do something yesterday to always keep it in your people's minds.
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when you speak of. but i can say in such a way not to. allow you to. the guarantee if. you see me in the store gives you demi talking and he said very simply say if we have something like that she stayed in the holocaust coming up we'll take arms will defend him or try to defend. really maybe loose really not be alive anymore. or caustic and. spray seen me so it's going to hit because it will fade back to flee. bank and you really see you really see me. and then you may have this is very straightforward and very strong reaction and very honest answer and thank you for that lot to
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ponder together with you. human nature for instance no matter how many atrocities for committed in the last war collapsing violence of people against other people is something that doesn't seem to go away any other how they honestly are taking logically we still see a lot of violence around this way think this fundamental meeting me share of being brutal to others come from is it survival instinct is it something else why is it in a still there how involved we are think. same trees and same trees of scientists and philosophers and releasing so if you try to find out if. we only have we have. from the earliest time of human existence. and said speaking of that there has been
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violence against each other we have skeleton remains of coleman young man never. to grace still there his. what if you have to have. case paintings for example cave engravings in the southern sahara with laura scenes in the union conflict armed conflict battle among men. in. i would say i wouldn't say that it's in the nature of. collectively we haven't gotten free. of collective violence individual violence yes it's always crime and so is something which unfortunately is happening but the commission is meant to be a good. as it existed in the human nature collectively. nobody has a full answer yet. of course we have to be very cautious in particular is we have
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instruments. instruments that. extremely dangerous atomic weapons biological weapons. and because of that the 1st world war was so catastrophic because because all of a sudden the war became industrialized into armies met in the battlefield in the 1st days of the war with a kind of chivalry. and it showed bold and brave and real face each other face to face like medieval medieval warriors the the storage in the shield and all of a sudden they were machine guns and they were. message altshuler he ended a free hand and in the shock shocked was extremely deep into shock over the holocaust by the way is so teen number one because it is unprecedented it's no
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president in world history you know is anyone that's to describe it. don't if this. term holocaust it's not a real description of what really made it so shocking and so unique was that messing with. it was industrialized it was an industrialized mess murdo 6000000 jewish people when we speak about and feeble for addresses latin heartless what are the triggers and brainwashing the human mind to point out that one is doing all of those appalling things and is. doing the right thing. it's a very deep question and part of it i believe is. collect
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if you narrative. today for example it's not so important well during the nazi time not that important facts we have. a narrative. demonization of let's say the jewish people the french russians the you just name eat. you see into a very clearly today. it is not so much when history is factually happening it's the narrative and we have to be very very careful in what should have been looking at the media what are the media doing. almost collective brainwashing going on no i'm not so that's. where we cake in bed we have to be alarm didn't have to be vigilant and we should think.
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we're going to take a short break right now and that will continue to happen to rattle your director screenwriter deserve better than that he may share. stay with us. we started at the garage or at least so you are good in each other than the human one. but on the but i was going to do the book on this missile that was dismissed. instead of. me emotional learning t.m. months ago if you will still be stuck or your muscles from the course of your new year itch mrs jim but i thought she was just. a few go chill the fuck should.
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settle into. submission that. we think she minds be so good soldier to piss off the boots she's wearing. huge which to the soul looks like to move the opposing opinion more than the movie the new one like it on the show stuck in the summer watching the police force suited us all to. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see that.
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you could buy it in the end. please do you think. the operation in your dying why are some of the wealthier neighborhoods it's been far more contained in the numbers are much lower than some of the more a neighborhood star the city is experiencing we're working with going to source outside of the state because they're just so 'd inundated here so i think that it is. and we're back with legendary director. for. one of my favorite karen philosophers the argument that the worst crimes against humanity are
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made by a banal and mediocre people who just got caught in a whirlwind of history and they thought was that it without really asking too many questions do certain stances make villains out of normal people or are going to war i think it's great complexity in fact. pointed out. i think is the 1st one and the banality of evil. very very good. because. there you go from the. very shallow thinking and very. existences. if existence is like it into. all of a sudden you have a very dangerous concoction. well i think back at our grandfather's you know march
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south of warring 93 and it was not the extraordinary to them for centuries before that fighting a big war in that traditional way of living normal thing that you were just supposed to do from time to time now when i should say 5 years of relative peace getting war as our grandfathers knew it doesn't he says as a viable option in our european sakhi anymore or has just transformed itself into something else. it doesn't exist like for the grandfather. price by the macon is a scene of the warring the fast. biggest of all shocks. i believe today. scenario his changed in particular because of nuclear weapons and very. delivery systems feinted very dangerous. to me medium range should weapons delivery systems back. coming back.
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very dangerous and also ferrying to russia in a way culturally it belongs to europe i didn't faint it completely. destroyed moment there was considerations even to. russia into nato. of course it's a very complicated repercussions would need to defend dress to say if there is a conflict in the far east the pacific with. china. is too complex. a slope wrong that russia belongs. to when i say i say mean europe cults really belongs to the poetry belongs to us i heard this a. yeah that more is than as
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a fact to tell i'm covering who we really are shaping our own country nature and you've got several documentaries about war you shot egypt. 1 may discoveries and healing nature they have made while shooting the sounds. i have to you know make it winfield ballad 2 of the little soldier. schultz in nicaragua with. miss key to india in 1000 insurgents. and. it was mostly child soldiers. boys 891011 years old. when you look at war and being fooled by children in they can't fight a war because they couldn't operate something sheen got easily. and they can use truth. for fear they don't have to be grown up in strong and.
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heavy built so the tragedy of seeing war is full of children is particularly. painful. and. in this case in nicaragua. it was. not propaganda that brought him in but atrocities their families had suffered. families wiped out not being killed in front of. and on the next day the boy joins the insurgent. personal tragedies. you have to translate to you in an individual basis. when you. when you're looking at war. draws human beings into war.
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and the privilege and. experience is. study study wars with children involved. and you're very often in africa to seed quite often. would you agree that. something like more strives. brings out the worst and the best in people and what i mean is that like. for every time there is a betrayal and a murderer for his sake of survival there's a tale of someone saving someone a soldier jumping on a grenade a family risking everything to shelter a fugitive so many germans who risked their lives to actually have jewish people in their homes you know what i mean these are the things that he would actually do you can as you go on in your everyday life i'm just thinking i went something this
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basic strikes. everything that's in the good on the bad comes out when you see would you say that it's a correct observation and i'll tell you why i'm saying this because i would take this to whatever is going on right now the whole condemned it and a colleague 19 and talk about how we were reacting to that because i believe $1000.00 down it is like and world war 3 where fighting all us to home all together and and visible enemy do you feel like. this condemn me has also arrow transform people because i see some people just like during the wars that my grandfather spot being ignorant being inconsiderate and others are risking their lives to save other lives and these are things that i would see during an every day day. he. is going to move true to the pandemic because of course. al incineration is its new.
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be having tainted since one 197918. and we haven't had a plate here like in the middle ages. and in antiquity. yes it's really have some say it will bring changes in their collective behavior at the moment we have. one kill she meant that is to simply in we have to separate into isolate ourselves because we have to starve the virus it cannot jump to anyone anymore you have to starve it out. beyond that there is a clean behave to help. for the vaccine and then things will really change the entire picture a change from that on. but it brings good things out in a can she legionella neighborhood. helping each other into hell we are collectively
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understanding and what is hard to understand is it spreads sprayed is not in our everyday experience of numbers when you walk along a street you meet one passenger it meets one person then the next in number 3 number 4 and so the spread of the virus is in a different message magic's is not a linear you have you meet. 16 people at the next one is not number 17 at all as a number 32 or 32 are coming at you and the next while it is not 33rd person 64 people are coming at you or your spreading it was 64 and then they send it in 28. in the end to end all of us agree with him a few were. you know up to a 1000000 and it's not in our experience of experience his numbers
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and indebtedness to sink in and because of thanks. to his to at the moment has to be disciplined. but he isn't it just to wrap this conversation out of the visionary as of the artist's little vision and he you know he may felt he you know or didn't buy it is right when she was looking back at this pandemic see it is something that will transform him at how detailed it in a film if he were to make a film about it i think i should make a film about it but. not let's imagine. i don't believe. it shows. things. collectively. we can change some some very
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fundamental behavior it's not a big jump but in the interim and we can change our behavior and you actually see heroic behavior seeing people who were the 1st. part of a study and get. intentionally infected by the virus in order to test. some sort of medication against it and those harrowing people who step out of society very average people they stand up and they say it has to be done and i really be vulnerable. give me the iris in test you have vaccine. and i think they said. db is civil in heroic it's not just a gesture of because these people may die and heroes only those who have died but i'm afraid he's so much certain cinci from his wonderful insight i really do hope
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we get it is a day maybe on a different topic but this has been such a breath of fresh air talking to you right before the 75th anniversary of the dictator very through i'm seeing a dress shows in sweden speaking. russia has lost more than 25000000 soldiers and civilians. and the only real heroes those who sacrificed their life they are the heroes india's. 25000000 heroes to commemorate and. regret it it was germany that brought all these contests to. russian people but today you know those things are possible and they really married to the russian . and they you are a happily married to
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thousands of american men and women choose to serve in the country's military and the decision little sheltered lives every song came to a complete. the day that i was right. you know told to shut up kill me and i see how destroyed my life any screamed at me and he made me come in the gram my arm and he write me with his birth thinking if you take into account that women don't report because of the extreme retaliation it's probably somewhere near about half a 1000000 women have now been sexually assaulted in the us military rape is a very very traumatizing tat happen but i've never seen trauma like i've seen women who are veterans who have suffered military sexual trauma reporting rape is more likely to get the victim punished and be offended and almost 10 year career which i was very invested in and i gave a sex offender who was not even put to justice or put on the registry this is
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simply an issue of tower and violence male sexual predators for the large part of target whoever is there to prey upon whether that's a man or woman. in the savings headline small to international russia says more than 1200 coronavirus patients are being treated on ventilators. last charms for the grave of a survivor tells us how it feels when your body can remove itself. waking up on a ventilator was a very unusual feeling as if i had been underwater i had a lot of tubes sticking out of my mouth the machine was breathing for me. in greece locals found allies hotels to the host asylum seekers as more removed from refugee camps to the mainland. with most holiday plans to offer correspondent weighs up the very slim options.
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