Skip to main content

tv   Watching the Hawks  RT  May 15, 2020 9:30am-10:30am EDT

9:30 am
do you think you could. leave if you could. get to call someone a motel it's contents isn't it you want. to sure it was ladies with. just the cure. for you to. give. me my. place. seemed wrong. rowles just don't call. me the world police yet to
9:31 am
shape out of disdain he comes to advocate and in the game equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart when she's to look for common ground. greetings and sell you. when surveying the wide field of news these days one can stumble upon a 1000000 different plot lines whether it's another bumbled u.s. led tempt in venezuela this time using former u.s. soldiers turned mercenaries to the very real surveillance state inspired fears that are gaining ground with each new revelation coming out of the u.s. government and silicon valley's plans for potential contact tracy but it's the
9:32 am
plotline that is with unfolding in the african country of somalia since the birth of 2020 that we will focus on today in particular it's the very under reported fact that since january 1st 2020 the united states government through the pentagon's africa command has been conducting a brutal barrage of air strikes inside the battered nation just security dot com reports that in the 1st few months of 2020 the u.s. has already conducted at least 39 air strikes in somalia to put that in perspective africa carried out $63.00 airstrikes during the entirety of 2019. in fact nick turse the fantastic journalist who has consistently been a thorn in africa side he points out that u.s. africa command has conducted more air strikes in somalia than it did during all of barack obama's 8 years in office. yes my friends it appears that while the world
9:33 am
has been targeting covert 19 the us government has decided to target small ians remember back in early april when the united nations secretary general and tony will get better stick laird to the world that quote there should be only one fight in our world today our shared battle against cold with 19 we must mobilize every ounce of energy to defeat it. well get this according to an africa press release the very day that the u.n. leader called for a global ceasefire the united states military was dropping bombs on somalia. wonder what our priorities are let's find out as we start watching all this. in a city street. like. this you always see . graves see this least systemic deception is so much.
9:34 am
welcome aboard watching the robot i was well made to look at this apparently during all this time fighting viruses we still have time to drop some bombs on some brown people around the world one thing us love to do that started because when they remain 3rd we will always have 5 kids by to disarm a whole population of people particularly those that we pull for good good point very good point it's crazy i mean last year under president donald trump the u.s. conducted $63.00 air attacks in somalia that was the most ever in a single year since the beginning of the year africa when i was $39.00 airstrikes in somalia the command mounts total 36 such attacks from 200-2017 i mean that's saying they were seeing these numbers rise like that i mean in 2016 it peaked and are about about with just 19 i don't know why we're dropping bombs on somalia in the 1st place like no one's quite you know al-shabaab terrorist whatever but this
9:35 am
seems excessive at this point that 6 was going to be my question what is the reasoning i don't know what the reasoning was under the obama administration either but the reason for the uptick all the other all the areas that we're involved in all of the international conflict all of the resolution they were supposed to be binding in areas across the middle east but also you know the global economy and all the different intricacies there. why i had to choose somalia why to continue to utilize our our military forces in that way also the cost associated with it and i have no answers as to why this is the plan of action and think that people should start asking those questions well i'm sure you're in luck because the pentagon has some really wonderful answers for you are you ready for this ok there we go. the april 3rd strike that just recently happened. in somalia u.s. marine corps brigadier general brad verjee gehring of africa he did these the deputy director of operations so he might have some answers he says quote it's our commanders responsibility to support our partners so this terrorist group
9:36 am
al-shabaab can expand and strike the u.s. homeland as its leaders desire to do. ok i mean basically this falls into the same thing of like the u.s. as you know that their air strikes are assisting the government of somalia in order to you know when it's war against the state armed group al-shabaab the terrorist group to increase the security of smaller people in the you know to keep them from you know coming to our shores and tackling us and also to keep the terrorists from indiscriminately attacking innocent civilians and so what extent has that success been measured. well we're very good at killing civilians and you know extent that we measured i mean it's really it really blows my mind because to me it's like it's the standard tired excuse to use all the time it's we have to attack these terrorists over here because they might come back here except the more people that we kill on the ground the more civilians we kill in these airstrikes the more
9:37 am
terrorists we create and the more people and i mean al shabaab has grown that died and i mean astronomically since the u.s. spurstow operations in africa why because of our influence their aim the more you do it the more you increase the you more and the more you destabilize that area and i think that there is something to be said about that as well and the amount of trust that somalian people have with the u.s. to the. government knowing that these casualties work and continue to happen on a regular basis that's a really good point it's you can't build 'd trust when you're killing civilians i mean it really does it it really does hurt i mean amnesty international reported deaths of 14 civilians in just 5 airstrikes last year that they were able to even begin to investigate you know africa says they investigate but they don't actually talk to families they don't talk to people find out actually who was killed they just claim it was all terrors it sounds a lot like what we were claiming you know what was going on in iraq right after the war although everyone is an insurgent.
9:38 am
where there's a will there's a way and where there's a big business the little man will always come up short at least that's what we're seeing in ohio where the state government has concocted a way to continue putting workers at risk for covert 19 meanwhile abstain from paying them unemployment benefits if the buckeye state reopens its its economy leaders fear some will refuse to work or quit due to the threat of coronavirus so be clear workers should be afraid considering mitigation efforts are minimal and a mutated strain of the virus was recently announced. ohio seems to what workers to pay that no mind at all and get back to work or else the ohio department of job and family services website now has a form that allows employers to confidentially report employees who quit or used to work due to cope in 1000 this internal play would prevent workers from being eligible for unemployment benefits kevin beary president of united fruit and commercial workers local 75 said it's unfortunate that people are being forced to
9:39 am
make a decision between losing their jobs and exposing themselves to the virus adding that the local union has been able to create an established policies and procedures to protect 30000 members. the stickler though also lies in the wording of the state's notice to employers saying individuals can not receive unemployment benefits if they can work but refuse or quit without good cause but what constitutes good cause if you think all of this sounds harsh it is right here watchers we recently reported on covert sweeping through ohio's prisons with more than 37000 inmates testing positive and a senior scholar from the johns hopkins center for health security found that not a single u.s. state has met the key criteria to open safely what you do if you're tasked with either going to work and putting your health at risk or advocating for yourself and losing your livelihood that is the most important question of the day is we have in
9:40 am
the may june when everyone talking about lifting all the stay at home orders and everybody needs to go back to work and to me with this sounds like it's basically you better go back to work or you know work put the gun to your head you have to go back to work and that's essentially what it they might as well it said it because these people have families they have other folks that they're taking care of they many of them don't have health insurance a lot of these are low income workers already so if they do get sick. lord help them in terms of being able to find proper care and the other part is and i think that we talked about this a little bit earlier is that ohio is probably not the only state with this type of interesting. the laws right now are forcing people to go back to work they're trying to get their economies opened back up they're not really taking into consideration all of the health precautions that are necessary before you can open up safely and that puts people at risk but they don't want to pay them unemployment benefits that's what really gets me with this it's like you could you can't have it both ways you can't put the gun to the american workers had or any work around the world forced to go back to work under these kind of conditions and say you need to
9:41 am
work we need to get our economy you need to put your life on the line for me but then say at the same time oh but we're not going to take care of you at all if indeed you do get sick from going back to work or if you choose to stay home and keep yourself and your family safe potentially because that's what you believe in that's what medical science is telling you but we're still not going to help you and that's the wrong choice and how dare you say no it absolutely was ridiculous so unemployment claims are typically subject to review you already know this. but there were a view does it typically state the types of things we're seeing here and the problem with that is that the employer gets to decide whether or not what what your unemployment claim not only is legitimate but also using coronavirus as a mechanism to determine who gets unemployment funds and who does not secretly they're doing a lot of these businesses are because if too many people claim unemployment they cannot claim the small business small business funding from the federal government
9:42 am
so they need people on the job but it's so twisted because it's like when you think about this that it's it's. it's that thing of like we just don't want to give anybody any kind of break we don't want to give anybody any kind of money and this tired old excuse that you hear over and over again from people who are against like on employment benefits and things like that the targets as well then they'll just stay at home and they won't want to work at all or you know they'll make more money for employment than they will of their jobs well guess what that's not the government's fault that's not siders force that's the jobs fault if the jobs can't pay their workers a livable wage. and they can get it from unemployment even if they really care but i mean it but. that's the businesses fault at the end of the day exactly you should not be punishing the worker because you are paying them slave wages that is not the workers fault exactly. but yet we have this twisted backwards thinking that somehow no business is ever at fault for mistreating workers you know good businesses are
9:43 am
never you know you can put a gun to their make and come to work at a time when they shouldn't and pay them garbage wages but oh god we never should help the worker we only should bail out the business of the other issues that we're learning more and more about coronavirus every day about how it passes about the people that are more susceptible about now you know the latest news about young children and how it's affecting them there are a lot of reasons why people who are set to have some very serious precautions particularly the communities that are affected the most right now we're seeing that be the african-american and latino community what we know about those 2 communities is that a lot of their households are multigenerational and so the person who is going out working could bring back over 1000 even if they're not showing any symptoms to a grandmother to an aunt to an uncle whoever else is in that household you mentioned john hopkins of you know criteria to do you know the state should look before the open business what are those criteria is do we know. absolutely so one of the criteria is that for 2 consecutive weeks you had to have reduction in coronavirus cases and some states have that not all states the sticking points were
9:44 am
the other 2 reasons that there had to be enough public health capacity to conduct contact tracing currently no state has that that there has to be enough diagnostic testing available for everyone no one has that and that the health care for capacity has to be there to be able to treat everyone safely and effectively as you know there are a lot of hospitals and clinics that have been shut down the capacity isn't there beds are going to be too specifically a rule areas. where does the funding come from people are asking for you know so much more from the state and the federal government to be able to support corona by . this case is and yet we're still reopening it. you could you could totally see by just going over what you just listed there from john hopkins that the we are in no condition actually to reopen even on any kind of infrastructural level to actually handle reopening exactly and that's what we're most afraid of it is not you know 9 there radek a sion of the virus in and of itself is that we do not currently have a health care system that is prepared to handle you know tailless rated its current
9:45 am
levels much less to get worse nor do we have an economy that can kick the can handle this apparently because like when i got to play a commie shuts down for 2 months we got to sit and bail out every business except for the american actual the american worker the american people that's the saddest part about this entire problem all right everybody good report thank you her head everybody as we go to break remember that you can also start watching all of us on demand through the brand new portable t.v. app which is available on smartphones or google play on the apple app store by searching portable t.v. or you can stream. to your t.v. you don't have cable by downloading the portable t.v. up on apple t.v. or online affordable. this will be available for devices coming up with that coming up it's time to look into the recently botched coup attempt in venezuela by one by dell and their merry band of american mercenaries you do not want to miss this tape to the watchable.
9:46 am
you can be both with the yeah you like.
9:47 am
but is the. police. or operation going to mean why don't some of the wealthier neighborhoods it's been far more contained in the numbers are much lower than some of the more a neighborhood star city is because we think we're working with can source outside of the state is there just so it's here so i think that it is. all right welcome back everyone as i mentioned earlier at the top of the show the united states' efforts to remove his wayward president nicolas maduro from power
9:48 am
have reached who a pretty new level of bumbling brilliance my friends on may 4th yes may 4th the venezuelan government announced the capture of 2 former u.s. special forces soldiers now turned mercenaries were involved in a failed plot to invade the country. leda cooed to remove venezuelan president nicolas maduro from power apparently dubbed operation gideon and run out of a florida security company titled silver core usa some have called this the keystone kops version of the bay of pigs in fact according to the washington post a mysterious strategic committee run by juan jose rondo and their political advisor to one weibo involved in these efforts actually compiled a dossier on the failed bay of pigs attempt to liberate cuba from the government to put out castro to a journalist charles pearson esquire magazine upon hearing of this news observed i can count on the fingers of one hand the number of accounts of the bay of pigs operation since 1962 that did not also contain the word fiasco why someone in 2020
9:49 am
would compile a dossier on a disastrous attempt to invade cuba as part of the preparation for a commando raid in the venezuela is best left to broader thinkers than i am well we here are those broad thinkers let's break down those latest attempt to remove the democratically elected leader of venezuela from office and install mr corporate democracy itself one guy joe as we are joined by author and human rights attorney dan koval of m. the author and professor of latin american history from pomona college we go to go solace thank you both for joining me today. thank you so there's an incredible amount to unpack with this story and not a lot of time but 1st let's start with the basics down as of this broadcast who do we know where the players involved in this botched operation beyond just the 2 captured u.s. mercenaries. so many dishes to them yet have the. founder
9:50 am
of usa and jordan do drone who seems to be mastermind of this the asco. he founded this mercenary organization 2 years ago and on that mission it organization it's been involved in for example the. elections in 2018 which resulted in the election of balsa narrow and also. they were involved with richard branson. a charity event on the columbia management a border about a year ago in addition to him. there were colombian paramilitary forces. otherwise known as death squads and some. folks who had left the venezuelan military and what we know is that sober for usa signed a contract with
9:51 am
a long way to carry out this operation with the objective being to kidnap president nicolas maduro and bring him to the united states most likely to try to get the $15000000.00 bounty that donald trump put on his. thing just keeps getting deeper than this next one is for you my gal the united states secretary of state might come pale in the us president donald trump have both distanced themselves from this operation with pump ale in benteke lee denying involvement declaring that quote there was no united states government direct involvement given the united states history of intervention in venezuelan affairs do you believe the u.s. government was not involved in this operation. i think the key word there is direct and what i perspective my perspective is that the u.s. knew about the program they knew us greenlighted it if it succeeded fantastic we were able to remove and they did it with a very cheap operation we lowball the contract and we were able to give it
9:52 am
a mother with the reality is that they knew about it the experience of the colombian border as one of the most surveilled borders in the area where you have a complete consulate u.s. overflights and information the fact that the colombians were aware that there was training going on. the venezuelans knew that training was going on in fact in march of 28 and 2020. in his own program the vice president the former vice president and 2nd in command of venezuela mention the fact that we have north americans training rebels of the border with colombia so the fact is they knew about it they hoped it would succeed if it succeeded they had achieved their mission if they didn't they would have plausible deniability which is essentially what they wanted with the bay of pigs as well to have plausible deniability and when in either case but again the context is the us established the context with increasing the sanctions against venezuela during a pandemic attempting to put
9:53 am
a price on mother was had attempting at the same time with elliott abrams and paul impale to increase the tension on venezuela even when there was a call within the country for negotiations by both sides to try to deal with a pandemic they upped it for regime change in the middle of a crisis that worsened conditions for venezuelans on the ground it truly has really wretched wouldn't when you think about it in that context to see that we're still trying to do these kind of operations especially during a worldwide pandemic emergency you'd think ok let's put all these things aside i'm curious dan about this company silver corps out of florida you know you had mentioned it earlier today and got into that you know were decided by u.s. green beret john good draw i'm also curious what are is its ties to the trumpet ministration i mean i know you mentioned that your work security back concert at the was a better way way to whatever wasn't happening while back what are its ties to the trumpet ministration and one weibo. well again the connections with like you know
9:54 am
a very strong there's a contract that's been released and publicized by the washington post which. super corp you know it's a sign an agreement. to carry out this operation in return for cash that cash would have come by the way from the united. states to go i go from money to the u.s. . for those and then c.d.'s from the venezuelan government they have now given millions of dollars of that to why do so 1st of all it's very clear that the money all of the money came. from the united states apparently does jordan good grow has done security for the trump campaign and is connected to security leaders for donald trump i saw one report that in fact a drone met with dollars from the white house not too long ago if i could mention one other fact you know the one the one thing the media has not talked about is who
9:55 am
would help stop this kid it was ordinary fishermen who helped intercept these people to beat anyone and the reason they thought they could win and overthrow the government of venezuela is they thought the people would rally around them to help them instead the people ordinary people fisherman on the shore confront them and call and then when the wording is to put down the coup the reason they failed is because why no and the united states had no popular support in venezuela certainly don't. emma gelt what do you believe will be the fallout from this in venezuela both politically and socially. well the fallout is that the opposition has lost the last fig leaf they were hiding behind we know very clearly that this opposition has adopted an insurrection a list approach that they staged a coup in april of 2019 it was they attempted to have
9:56 am
a good look out of road the military base in caracas rebel it didn't happen we know that they've upped it to withdraw themselves from the internal political process hoping that the u.s. would support them that the group of lima would support them that colombia would support them in other words they have little faith. in the democrat and the venezuelan people going to thailand needs as many people in the country have said is negotiations to release the money that the us has taken from venezuela and that money be provided by human aid for venezuelan immigrants that are abroad the 5000000 immigrants that are abroad as well as the venezuelans within the country but for the opposition i think that even their most ardent supporters are now questioning what they did how they've approached this and that their continued support for an insurrection alist policy that is the house model but whatever means necessary has really been exposed because they signed that document it was white though it was hope to hold out and go on his campaign manager the same person by
9:57 am
the way hold the hold out and go on who ran the campaign for a while even colombia who ran the opposition in mexico who ran even other campaigns a lot america and who promised he would go as well as again they have no figures to hide behind they supported the coup that way they have previously it's incredible how far that rabbit hole goes i want to thank you and professor solace thank you so much for coming on pleasure having you both on thank you. already bad as our show for you to vote in this world we are not told but we are loving up so i tell you all i love you i am tired rover for animals keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night. and this is the problem. you don't know and so you know it's easier to be reactive than proactive and i. hear. more of this is
9:58 am
a vital. i'm going to remember anything but i believe. you could probably. body in the street in the earth and i was really pleased. if there was a women. most of. the year in you will ask yourself how are you going to survive how are you going to protect yourself. in the old lock up one and if you're in the field or do you want to.
9:59 am
start. using technology where they've been able to name x. people's private information on the cell phones and see what you've seen if you have crossed hearts with somebody who is positively coronavirus and if you are if you had a meeting your message across parts of somebody wasn't a tease you must be in our emptiness own. but i think that there was the interesting thing is that all the people around them are in the same situation. join me every day on the alex i'm unsure and i'll be speaking to the world of politics or business i'm sure i'll see you there.
10:00 am
welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is our 2 u.k. . the coronavirus infection rate is showing to differ drastically around the u.k. as one study claims around 70000000 people could have already contracted the virus i'll be joined by one of the report's research shows. police across england prepared to disperse anti long term protests shake your for this weekend that's of the crown prosecution service rules that all charges under the coronavirus act often little for. charities reporting priest an elderly people struggling to put food on the table during the long down boot banks reporting
10:01 am
a trickling in demand we hear from the 2 poverty campaign about. a quarter of deaths in care homes since the beginning of march are found toward theme coronavirus related rants as bosses claimed they warned the government about the risks of a pandemic 2 years ago. and trips to accident and emergency departments in england dropped by over a half in a single year with visits at the lowest level in a decade i'll be joined live by and paid the doctor to discuss this. welcome to r.t. u.k. the corona virus infection rate is revealed to be markedly different across the country as the government admits the law down could be eased that says police prepared to break up planned county lockdown protests across the country over the weekend. the latest. hi there he says so how does the situation look across the
10:02 am
whole of the u.k. . well what we've been saying is a marked difference depending on where you are in the country in terms of the are right that they are raises the rates of infections that each person can give to another person so the average number for example if i was to interact with other people i may in fact 2 other people 3 other people for that number to be overfull the government to begin to ease lock down measures that number has to go below one and you see modeling but public health insurance in cambridge university to find depending on where they were in the country there are marked differences so the 1st number is of course the school london which has all through this crisis been ahead of the rest of the country in all rates in london is now 0.4 what that means is for every 10 people infected they toss it on to a son of 4 individuals now in the middle and the value is just under ciro point 7
10:03 am
in the east of england the race is slightly higher it's 0.71 so again for every 10 people who are infected there infecting 7 other people in the south east of england again similar pick up but the situation gets a little bit west as we go to the north of the country in the north west the figure is 0 point $73.00 now according to the modeling done that's a little more than 2000 infections at day. again there is an increase when you go back down to the southwest the art rate is 0.76 but it's considered that the and the sense of the virus outbreak is the north east and yorkshire where it's 0.8 percent or 0.8 apologies for our rate so another website mean 10 people were infected other people are being infected and research suggests that that means that there are around $4000.00 new cases in stay in this region and finally that takes
10:04 am
the whole of the whole of england's all rates to 0.75 so it is below that one rate that the government needs he's got the measures that is possibly why the measures are being this to slightly but of course you don't varying rates across the country in different regions the government have suggested that they might also consider easing lock down measures at different times and at different rates depending on where in the country we are but in the meantime he says well the police are having a bit of a tough time as well and i think yeah absolutely we sort of course the coronavirus act being tossed in a number of people being arrested as a result of thought well there are now been a number of charges which have been overturned or with troll in the crown prosecution saying that 3 charges of being completely withdrawn.
10:05 am
of them have been released and these include for example a he was fined $600.00 pounds for being in the vicinity of the train station and much of this was brought to the attention of police forces under c.p.s. following media spotlight being thrust upon them however those measures there are still many of them in trace including it be illegal to gather in large groups but that doesn't seem to be putting off number of protests which are plans for this week. the trial organized by a group named itself the u.k. freedom movement now they produced flyers for around 60 and t. lock down protests to be held this weekend 60 of them in different parts of the country now they claim of course the law is lawful but of course the police say that they will arrest people who got that in large groups for the purposes of those
10:06 am
protests there are some of it there's no evidence to suggest that they've been organized by far right groups and anyone but anything more than the fact that these are just people who want to protest against the locked measures so we've seen similar things taking place in the u.s. let's see how the police react over this coming weekend yes indeed a sorority thank you very much indeed for joining us thank you what to discuss the right of infections across the country at majo and by physician and research at the trade inhaled now dale thank you very much for joining us i mean how did you come to the conclusion that one in 4 the population have had this virus. this is based on modeling so just be really clear we haven't gone out and tested people what we've done is we've produced this paper on the basis of results that were out in terms of the population infection rates going back to the 2nd half of april and the
10:07 am
modeling is based on what we notice that actually the our view which he said very nicely explained or is just a couple of minutes ago when we found is that our value is actually very significantly relates to the number of cases already in the population and it's interesting that the figures that you quote say do in a very simple way bear that out and we know there's been a very significant number of cases in london that the proportional cases per 1000 people in london has been high and that the r. value is actually now quite low and it's that we based this modeling on the differences between local authority areas and the fact that our values this transmission coefficients is different between different areas and also that the number of cases is different the or was at that time different between the different areas and then kind of extrapolated forward into figures for the whole of the u.k. so the paper reflects back to the end of april we were saying that at that point
10:08 am
more than 25 percent of people may well have been infected with this is not you know an absolute number this is a projection it's an estimate based on the data that was available at the time testing to get there i mean according to another study let's look at the r 8 or something on to this thing it's got to not point 4 so that would you think the prime minister should start lifting measures in areas where people are less likely to get infected. i answer any difficult one because you know in theory yes it's a great idea but we've already heard about the difficulties in policing the lock down as it is and restrictions as they are the notion that isis is making that work in practice is very hard and certainly in other parts of europe generally the restrictions have been lifted across the whole country are realizing that city that hasn't been the case that generally they've been gradually lifted across the whole country rather than differentially in different places so yes one can argue for
10:09 am
that as i say data is out there our findings are are there to inform policymakers to contribute to the evidence base and we also to support the findings that change the study we also have seen significant differences in the infection rates between different areas different regions as well as between different local authorities the detail enchanted so i guess they should then therefore if we are trying to eventually ease out of lockdown should the vulnerable then therefore staying on down and people who would then considered to be healthy are statistically be allowed out to allow the easing of lockdown that's a very very good question casey and we know that a lot of the people a significant number of the people who died at the unit care homes have been in a very vulnerable situation in terms of their health i think we have to start by applying the testing the antibody testing and also the line virus testing of the
10:10 am
worth finding out someone who's actually infected to more people in the health and social care sector because what we don't want as house work because what we don't want in terms of the people who are working so hard in care homes is actually to be the vector is that this virus taking it into those places and therefore infecting people still in those places so that no sir that doctor had that for are we not are we at the tail sorry and therefore on the road towards herd immunity then based on the numbers that we have. right kind of pick up the point about isolation are coming to herd immunity so with regard to the people at the moment who are fully locked down in terms of not going out i think that we have to see how things go over the next couple of weeks it was going to be a 12 week period for those individuals anyway if we see that the our values continue to fall across the u.k. then i think that the advice can be more favorable in terms of individuals who are
10:11 am
in the older age groups who are in a situation that they have a lot of what we call co-morbidities in terms of multiple health conditions with regard to the point about easing restrictions as we go forward i think that our work gives us a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel as does the office for national statistics survey which yesterday reported that those tested only one out of every 416 so one out of 416 people tested were actually active of the virus i think what we're saying in this study is that actually far more people than was actually thought may actually have had some exposure to the virus we certainly feel as physicians and i've spoken to general practitioners in the northwest that actually many people have had it what we call a mild dose of this virus or may not notice that they've had it and that's what we're picking up through the findings of this study dr agent held many thanks for
10:12 am
joining us thank you so much the time by. chance is one that the elderly are struggling for 32 in the u.k. not down and risking money attrition educate claim they deliver nearly 900000 food packages to older people every week and there's a rise in numbers who don't have food or the necessary support to cook by themselves there has also been an unprecedented rise in calls to its advice line seeking help with stress and anxiety all the more on this i'm now joined by anti-poverty campaign and author of the bank britain ray. will think ray thank you for joining us how widespread is the issue with older people so really really huge issue give us some great examples the government told a lot of people and 8 weeks ago to go into isolation particularly those felt themselves to be vulnerable and i have for example a woman in you call soul who is high risk who has now been 8 weeks still waiting for the famous food parcel the government promised to deliver and of course across
10:13 am
the country we have corona suppose networks like my own but of course they're not in every community many elderly people a very very proud before the crisis we already had real issues around the elderly and poverty and where we would find out we care food by the elderly would have the family round for tea on sunday and then on monday they would be the food bank and of course poverty makes it ensures that people are so uncomfortable with it because we live in a society which makes very aspirational but if you can put food on the table then in some way you're useless you're of failure and this sort of mentality really hits the elderly the most and therefore they're not just isolated but they're going hungry because they will ask for help many of them don't have internet or smart phones which makes our isolation even more tough to address and the process of getting food to people through the government is still not working the government
10:14 am
admitted that the 1st 6 weeks of the food paul so initiative nobody got any food for the 1st 6 weeks and weeks 730000 deliveries to 1500000 were made last week the government 1000000 food parcels had been to live at that meant by even the government's own figure a further 500000 pensioners and people that are vulnerable and isolated are still waiting for food that's 8 weeks can you imagine how no. most households would cope with the food shortages for 8 weeks already that to be honest they're looking also at the whole issue of food bank use as well it's also not just the elderly is it's also a food bank use is also thought to be up but is a case of there will be pressure off resources particularly food banks when everybody starts to get back to work when you make the situation easier well a week ago we all thought food banks we would occur in the groups would be winding down but in the past week we've had the crisis with the self employed where many of
10:15 am
the self employed thought they would get their secluding myself i myself employed writer and i charged to get on line my application for my grant this week and i was declined and the reacts so we're getting a whole new sway vote the self employed that been waiting 3 months for the great day in june when they would get this money from the government and it's not materializing like much of the other pledges much of the other money trees we've been promised the reality is that what it's doing is people that thought they would never need a food bank and now turning up and going online and searching out food banks such as or just like to die i had 4 people just arrive at my front door and knock on the door for food it's a real crisis is ongoing and i think that if it wasn't for groups like ours the bigger issue in this country would not be about people dying of corowa covert nighty in it would be the numbers of people starving to death and i do think at the end of this crisis if they don't sort out the food poverty issue we are going to find people who have starved to death that we do not know about because of course
10:16 am
they're isolated and families can't visit people we have an elderly gentleman whose family live in devon he was in hospital for 6 months he was turned out of his hospital sent home to his home in lewisham without any support without any care support and fortunately his family trucked me down in devon we now feature him how many other people have been released from the hospital into the community with no support package how many elderly people are sitting at home no internet too poor to feed themselves or even to charge and the fact that i take on board everything is that on 5 we are running out of time rebel thank you very much indeed for joining us and telling us about the situation thank you very much thank you very much thank you. well in addition to those suffering from food poverty there also appears to be a stone divide between the haves and have nots when it comes to those returning to work. has this report this is what unlocking the lockdown looks like as thousands
10:17 am
of brits head back to work in a bit to get britain moving again while the virus is still out there boris johnson the prime minister seems to believe it's safe enough to try and get the economy back on track we said that you should work from home if you can. only go to work if you must. we now need to stress that anyone who can't work from home for instance those in construction manufacturing should be to be encouraged to go to work from home when you can it's still the masses because the risk remains some can say higher than those in higher paid managerial roles in. the lower paid jobs that can't be done remotely and that's not something food is wonderful for the haves and another for the have not biologically speaking we're all in this together we know no bust immunity but when you look at day to day. you know the facts of the disease how much we're exposed there's
10:18 am
a greater risk so there is really no sense in which we're equal in the face of disease there is a choice in fearing it workers are afraid to go when they can stay at home but the company doesn't actually have to continue to follow them if the phantasm to come in they either have to go into work of they don't get paid. it's not options not i need you know i don't. think you know what the other option you know do you take the risk you know not what i'm. trying. because you have to be a equal but it's not an option it's not even something they think they need because they've got lung also ran their. children that needs the government advises avoiding public transport buffalo are without cost there is no other choice on day one of the return london underground numbers up almost 10 percent on the
10:19 am
very same time last week businesses have been given advice on how to be covert secured with social distancing its greens there simply no guarantees and to some working has continued throughout the crisis long before such measures were even considered scientists say the virus itself doesn't. everyone is at risk but the statistics tell a very different story working class men in low paid jobs are more likely to die of coronavirus than anyone else between the ages of 20 and 64 most at risk are security guards taxi and bus driver kerrison all of whom are encouraged to go back to work if they haven't already and they're up to 4 times as likely to die as middle class graduates working as lawyers teachers accountants and engineers so whoever can afford to stay warm stay secluded you know who can control their interaction with others will be you know less risk is really something that depends all. right some of us cannot all need to go to work and be still
10:20 am
exposed to the wire so in that sense i think we're not equal and when it comes to returning to work parents who can't afford a child can also struggling private schools were open back classrooms for around another 3 weeks and the government at the moment only says businesses should take those allowances a real concern for many people child care i want to quote a mark of a young child apologize but it's a little but it reflects the worst. she says this. as boris set in his speech people are encouraged to go back to work meeting my partner as he works in construction my partner has explained to his boss this can happen because we've got no childcare you also run the nursery but then i put on my work because well put my boss is having none of it i hope i can get some advice mid-month been so stressed. what advice with the promise to give while the
10:21 am
government was praise the college try to protect all this in the days of the pirates when it comes to retire while the virus itself might not discriminate the financial cost of the possible risk 70000 drive a wedge between the house and the hospital such as the stuff stay r t u k. still to come this out. hospitals experience a record low in visits to accident and emergency units as health workers warn some people are not getting the treatment they need we hear from any. the dropping of the f.b.i. case against michael flynn reveals what so many of us have long believed russia gate was
10:22 am
a crude and slide beach invention undermined the outcome of the presidential election irrespective of how you feel about the current occupant of the white house it was an attempted coup telly corporate liberal media side with the conspirators. when else so seemed wrong. why don't we all just don't call. me the world yet to see proud disdain come out again. and engage me because betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. and.
10:23 am
welcome back a quarter of all care home deaths over the past 2 months have been coded 19 related according to the statistics watched all the data relates to care homes in england and wales and shows to have been over 45000 deaths in care homes from the beginning of march until may the 1st of those deaths over 27 percent are registered as conan coronavirus related or furthermore the number of excess deaths has increased substantially since the end of december last year there have been over 70000 care home deaths which is over 20000 more than the year before. it comes amid more allegations the u.k. government failed to prepare for the crisis in care homes the association of directors of adult social services has claimed it warned all sorties about the potential risks of a pandemic 2 years ago in a series of reports they called on number 10 to provide additional p.p. to care homes and we're talking to the executive chair of the national keris o.c.a.
10:24 am
nadra ahmed a little later. now visits to accident and emergency departments across england to fall into the lowest level in a decade figures released by n.h.s. england show that 9 100000 people visited a n.d. departments in april 2020 well that's over half 7 the number of attendances compared to last year where over 2000000 people went to n.d. well this number is lower than any calendar month since records began in 2010 and with fewer people seeking medical attention during the pandemic some health care professionals are growing increasingly concerned about the consequences this is a ticking time bomb it is self and all the exacerbated by a myriad of other pressures in the coming weeks there will be an ongoing need to keep people with corona virus separate from others to prevent transmission with segregated wards effectively reducing immediately available beds so attempting to manage increased demand will be very challenging i'm also highly concerned about
10:25 am
the resilience of staff who've been working flatow with little time for recovery which means they will continue to suffer personal sacrifice as we move through the stages of this crisis. want to discuss the fall in any business and i'm joined by emergency medicine consultant dr joydeep grover but grover thank you for joining us that is an incredible drop in visits to a n.d. does this either mean that they weren't important before or people with serious conditions on now getting treated. to be fair it is a mixture of both of those assertions. the demand on the healthcare services in the last decade has shown a dramatic upward trend digitally following the you negotiate the article was contract with lots of g. d's where the only way for a lot of people to seek support out of hours was to be insensitive apartments so there's a part of that which is which is quite true is that the attendance is in the emergency department in the last decade or so has risen quite dramatically because of the
10:26 am
lack of resources in the other parts of the health system but there is truth in the other part as well which is that there has been a certain direction in the number or people who present with chest pain or stroke symptoms and really keep tabs on them so we have seen 10 to 20 percent drop in the number of patients that we would normally expect with the stroke or the serious symptoms like just people are worried about going back to give advice are they say they're scared to go to hospital. well actually it's both so they are obviously scared of coming to a hospital because of or not was but also there heeded. the ringback requests of previous health authorities to do only seek support when it was truly necessary and some of them have all basically been much more conservative as to when they would
10:27 am
seek emergency support well how risque are visits to engage in this pandemic. well. i suspect that there is some truth is that if you come to a hospital you're much more likely to get exposed to really a spot adjourns of course you know in the evidence it departments and in the hospitals that have been a lot of efforts that you made to keep people safe to separate them to get out and to put them in places which are safe so we need to take all precautions which are possible and we would certainly encourage people to seek support if they thought their symptoms were serious and they are in a department prepared after surgery after the lockdowns is starting to lift it again out england. in fact we already are scenes of the data that you are that you mentioned just people became online release to april we're now in the middle of me and we've already started to see an increase in our attendance since they're not
10:28 am
quite what they used to but they certainly have gone up by 10 to 20 percent already so we are now seeing but will be more and more people are coming through which is good. what we really don't want is for the emergency departments to be covered again because crowding is very very difficult in these circumstances where social and physical distancing is really important to maintain. we do know that the virus has reduced a lot in the community but equally we know that it hasn't gone away so we would not want the emergency departments to be crowded and there's a fine balance we do want the people who are seriously unbent to come in but at the same time we don't want everyone to come in because then that is not really good if they're to do it in private thank you for joining us thinking you're welcome another back with more news at the top of yeah see the.
10:29 am
you cannot go with yeah you want. to so because you missed me sophie shevardnadze malled is actually rolling back
10:30 am
lockdown measures as a coronavirus to delhi shows what side of easing off talk about this i'm joined by paul turner carson professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at yale university and professor of microbiology at yale school of medicine. paul turner rachel carson professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at yale university professor of microbiology at yale school of medicine is really great to have you with us so much to talk about. all right so 1st bank 1st countries are gradually listing lockdown measures which is understandable as economists sort of falling apart and people need to.

25 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on