hello from rhode island where i live as we are broadcasting remotely during the crisis this corona virus pandemic is an assault on public health is also an attack on our freedom let's ask the author of battlefield america the war on the american people john w. whitehead is founder and president of the rutherford institute a nonpartisan nonprofit group committed to the principles of the constitution and the bill of rights john you're in florida and during the shutdown we've seen

a lot of news footage of crowded beaches what's the mood there now and are people walking around wearing masks well not really a place has not been no floor is a little different the question has been a place. you know people here can walk around clamored mass. some of the restaurants are opening. ain't been here very much plan now a couple weeks ago but it's certainly. to the extent we can believe anything where hearing from the government in china they tell us they're over the hump and clearly they got there with some pretty draconian measures that would never fly in the usa correct. i'm not sure about that as i've argued so my comments series in my books right now were being licensed

psychologically reconstruct you could get you through this kind of safety that you know that you have police now using chinese made drones that cross the boundary of crowd control and so this thing. it's you know it's it's here spammers everything is the thermal imaging surveillance cameras and are being set up in different places across the country there are developed cameras with the layers of your heartbeat so they can identify you while your heartbeat they will need facial recognition that there's a fire you so many of the things that we've seen in china are already coming here in china has been used as a model by a lot of the corporation council of valley life will google has announced that it is partnering with. many major nations across the world and they're developing your location data and your so will media so if you travel anywhere whatever across the world or whatever in the future everything that you're doing thinking whatever

is going to be known to god let's there and i would say that we're looking at the future than if you read the order or well 19 eighty-four it's very very slow slow or go see it happening and. the other thing is congress durbin to me is there are a lot of people now it's. people are calling 911 when they speak people copy your people coffee in their own throat they're walking out the front yard we're all in the police we're seeing them swapping race relations that kind of stuff so it's very similar to former regimes that i have written about such as nazi germany where . it happened and people were happy with it as long as the so called enemies and who are the enemies in these situations it's we've become the enemy and you said something very important. well who wrote our bill rhinestones manager said we ought to mistrust all those in power can certainly agree and we've got to be

sure what information we're being granted because a lot of the information we're being then it's coming from the government who is working the large corporations in developing all this technology and they're making a lot of money off. a minute ago when you said social media the viewer might have thought twitter facebook etc but there's a very different meaning based on what's going on in china where they're carrying government issued id cards and we're reading that there are some 200000000 cameras set up with facial recognition and all of this data is getting knit together to the extent that citizens are scored by what they are allowed to do how close are we to that here given all of this surveillance you just mentioned . when i saw the color coded thing i thought oh well you know under the obama

administration of our homeland security actually announced they were going predecessor on american homes across the country they went wring their rent when i saw i'm sorry we're going out with you we get it from a chinese. or who just you know whatever is not a good line wireless security been doing that in the obama administration and now the company restoration is hired be proud of your corporation last contract in and say whatever you develop a contact tracing app with will lead to the new unity ask for basically on your own so you will not be able to enter buildings or whatever in the future if this goes forward and they already have the funding to do it. who is already here with a color coded system is already here that we're seeing in china and it's very very dangerous slide away because you have people from a distance of numbers a good looking at you and saying oh they didn't do this i didn't do that so there

are a yellow or they're red yeah here's the danes the. a.b.s. now the swat team rays are very angry in america and police have that information and somebody in the end correct when they have that information they see your rant you know there was the case of the young men lived in maryland who got shot is banned for weeks because the police said he was a sentimental advocate all that it was shocking to live there when it was your offering and his parents or a friend with a $1000.00 fine was on our floor in the year and you know they threw them for house and broke them so we're already seeing some of this problem and it's good programs like part of me go to c.n.n. programs like that no hear anything about. yeah you know this color coding is something michael moore warned us about years ago after 911 it's a way for big brother day yank your chain because they can keep changing the color

and i think that that has us at least mentally hunkered down doesn't it. you know it makes you feel young people feel a lot of you know you know them being lost and all that but you know the one thing the american government's done very well is very sneaky is they have a whole mission much of this stuff and just again you know here the mainstream media is talking about it around books like mine are people out there running by and what i'm trying to get people to do is watch good programs on television and form a new program we're watching all the b.s. you see a lot of the stuff and get educated start reading good articles good books and you can do you know if you do this because. people in $100.00 people who are local government it's not some of those crazy what we're seeing and pushback against the underlying wrongdoing hile whatever next year you walk in and if you

if you resist the people who read my writing and i'm with them or you work with them are going to be labeled read our good rant and won't know what's going to happen rate people who can buy or watch movies if you like. well odds are the present circumstances with this pandemic the rationale for surveillance is a term that we're going to be hearing a lot lately contact tracing meaning they're going to figure out who test positive and find out everybody they've been with who may have infected them or whom they may have infected and we're going to show a quick video clip here that demonstrates how your phone does that. you can see clearly that the vice activity spikes during the 2 week stretch of early to mid march corresponding the spring break no surprise now using an analysis called a spider query we can actually track the movement of these devices over the maniacs of march seeing where these devices went after spring breakers left the beach. as

we zoom further and further out it becomes clear just how massive the potential impact just one single beach gathering can have in spreading this virus across our nation. that is pretty impressive technology and we volunteered for it the phone is right in our pocket john after $911.00 congress gave us the very patriotic sounding patriot act which really whacked a lot of our freedoms but we are assured that big brother isn't actually listening into our phone calls that they're just tracing met a data from millions and millions of phone calls looking for patterns do you buy that and does this pandemic make it an even slipperier slope. is a lie. you say down. at least 4000000 phone calls. in the middle of their washing or in your case that was counted in

a local. well who work for the f.b.i. . will know you're watching everything you're doing you and i are both holland and you know everything we're doing i mean you're ringing doorbells walk you recognition software everything you're doing you're not a good listener. so we live a whole. life then if you want to look at well read and read all well or all here already and here's the key phrase the lock was in the class and iran said people don't realize what. their environment and we think that is because we're not really. in. the building and making our actions against it and the only way in washington d.c. is not to listen to you but you will remember me and you want to write it was great but you know what if you know and know why some of these things in one of these

crazy slot being raised you know you're getting you know we're always getting shot over over stuff when they're in the wrong route sometimes so when you're younger you are in. the. yeah yeah it's quite an irony we feel safe because we have the ring doorbell but we are volunteering all that data a shot i'm down to a minute but you mentioned the f.b.i. and i got to ask because i got chills when i read what you wrote about n g i d the f.b.i. is next generation identification database i need the quick version but what's that all about anything huge facial recognition both you will realize your face till your photographs are over the f.b.i. they had all that information so when a crime is anywhere your face what it means yes we live in a suspect society you're watching and you're not in your shoes. while the raters not like they're washing your face. you know they have your face

your walk in you you're in a line. john thank you not only for your time tonight but for the work you do when i would urge our viewers to follow what john's writing at rutherford dot org coming up nothing says summer like strolling the boardwalk at the beach may we mr atlanta city joins us next and we're going to have a coronavirus scam alert update this is the big picture on our team america. is you'll be a reflection of reality. in

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dying while some of the wealthier neighborhoods it's been far more contained in the numbers are much lower than some of the flora neighborhoods and start to see if anything we're working with can source outside of the state is there just so it is here so like anything out of this. until we get the all clear to resume broadcasting from marty's broadcast center in washington d.c. i speak to you from rhode island where i live. rhode island is the ocean state where we are taking social distancing another pandemic protocols super seriously

the hash tag here is save the season and just down the coast beth is an iconic summertime destination at the lead to city new jersey where you are about to meet the morning mayor for years and years on radio there harry hurley it's about time welcome to the big picture. holland thank you for having me on your program and to all of many many viewers. one of the most important mentors in my career thank you for everything you've meant to me how and. you bet pelle and we radio talkers are all in the debt of larry king who taught us an important lesson that great talkers are good listeners and you're talking to people every morning and throughout the day in your travels give me some adjectives that describe a life there in atlantic city of the people you talk to and especially because

recently governor murphy extended the declaration health. resolution his executive order for another 30 day period so people who thought they were going to get out of being all penned up now know that it most likely will be going on for quite a while although governor murphy did prove we opened our eyes and golf courses during his last executive order so i've been trying to just keep people's spirits up and tell them that the executive order is extended for a lot of reasons and that does not mean that other things won't come back to normal so disgusted holland is an adjective our our listeners yeah our friends our sins they've been staying at home for almost 7 weeks probably a little more than 7 weeks now as i appear on our wants program depressed they don't know if they're going to have a job waiting for them they're hearing stories now that the furlough could be

turning into permanent job elimination over 33000000 americans are out of work right now i mean these are numbers that are staggering by any comparison greater than the the great depression anxious but also some positive things appreciative appreciative for family respectful newfound respect for nurses doctors police fire e.m.'s so just like with life it's the full gamut ups and downs feeling good and optimistic one minute that's another word optimistic and then feeling very very lost and keep in mind when you don't and you know the sound and we've been able to work through it but many people they haven't put a suit on in 2 months their routine is completely disrupted they don't even know if it's monday or if it's friday so there's a lot of feelings and also religious people have found faith in god so it's the whole gamut. yeah even though they can't go to church which is tough on

a lot of people your state and my state are the 2 most densely populated places in america where use to being around other people so the silence can get deafening and i know you're in touch with gov murphy there the really opening that we're all looking forward to has been agonizingly gradual i will share with our audience that back in the day when you worked in the casino industry you work for none other than one donald trump so you know that business inside and out and you know that guy who hands of a slice of pizza over the counter on the boardwalk how quickly once we get the green light can all of that open up again and do you think that this extended shutdown for a couple of months has done some permanent damage to the economy in tourist

destinations like yours and mine. i would say not permanent but if you remember the great recession 200-2009 took a decade to get past the casino city atlantic city we had the highest unemployment rate in america we have the highest home foreclosure rate in america permanent no lasting yes when you look at the. the process to scale it all back up it will take 2 full weeks from the date that governor murphy says casinos can reopen before they really can reopen this was 24227000 employees about 8 weeks ago that's going to take some time here's the other very challenging thing and i believe governor murphy has done a great job he's taken a lot of heat because we're 21 counties let's take it when a county where i live and where the casinos live 245000 people there are about maybe 260000 people we have 54 fatalities due to cove at 19

would you shut down a state 265000 people for 54 deaths probably not the true the tricky part for governor murphy is just to thread the needle this cannot be a binary choice of either stay shut down forever or let it rip i'm a defender and a believer in the middle ground we prudently open up what we can open up we open up golf courses but only one person to a cart we opened up parks and other playgrounds and things but if people didn't observe social distancing they lost the privilege and governor we took it back in some areas when we get ready to open up the casinos holland get ready to see for the 1st time in history a blackjack table not full with 7 people but with 3 people want to 1st base one order base not all look at cards being cleaned every hour it's going to be up something it's never imagined. the new normal will not be the old

normal in harry there is so much negativity on talk radio i know your listeners appreciate the glass half full way you wake up every morning harry hurley from w p g radio in atlantic city come again soon will ya. thanks for the good invitation my friend congratulations on all your recognition and hard work thank you harry now let's welcome back attorney author bentley university pro fessor and a scam buster stephen jay jay wiseman steve you were with us just a few weeks ago shocking us with what the wise guys are up to preying upon us during the corona virus pandemic and even since then there are new schemes out there some of the stuff you write about on your website scam aside dot com is diabolical and while we're all watching so much t.v. while housebound i guess i wasn't surprised to read your report about pirate videos

streaming services how does that work. you know we've all been sitting at home in the pandemic in the quarantine watching binge watching a number of different streaming services i don't even know if that tiger and i think it may be the only one in america. but. yeah a few people are looking for free services news is not anything that's really new or unusual and so the scammers a scam artists are right they're taking advantage of this so they have constructed a number of different phony streaming sites where you can get for free all of these 1st run movies that you may be otherwise missing or television shows that you might otherwise not be able to get so this is the this is the draw this is the attraction but what's happening is when you go to these free services these pirated services

what you're doing is you're setting yourself up for either becoming a victim of malware you're going to click on something and download ransomware onto your computer or it's going to lock all of your files and unless you pay a bit coin ransom in 48 hours they'll destroy it or they'll steal information from your computer and turn you when you are a victim of identity theft and making it worse if you're looking for one of the services you might go to a search engine like google and gets put in free so free streaming services what comes up is not necessarily legitimate the back guys are very adept and manipulating the algorithms used by google and other search engines so you think it's legit because it comes up at the top of a search but in fact what you're getting is the scammers and it's dangerous it's dangerous just to even go to these sites so bottom line is you've got to stick to

the sites that you know are legitimate if it sounds too good to be too for the free streaming service that generally it's going to. yeah you know one trend i think that will survive this pandemic lock down warren is delivery because we've gotten a little accustomed to the convenience of bringing it here instead of me go getting a pair but fake out artists are using delivery to fool us now. yeah and this is something you know i agree with you we my wife carol not gotten very used to having most of our shopping done just on the computer and boom it comes to the door the next day so this is again a problem because what the bad guys do is they're able to send you e-mails or text messages in the e-mails that they may send you it will appear as if it's coming from better express u.b.s. it's very very simple very easy to phony up a logo and since everybody is getting things delivered if there is

a question about having a confirmed information or to click on a link to check on the status of your delivery all of that can once again download malware onto your computer download malware onto your phone so here the solution is easy because how can you tell when it's legitimate are not and the answer is you can't tell and so you really can't trust any e-mail or text message you get it wants you to click on a link didn't download an attachment or provide information but the simple solution is if it's from federal express you go to the federal express website and there you can get the information on your delivery from yes you go to their web site you know this is something we've been saying for a long time with free coupons online they look terrific but what happens is you wound up becoming a victim of identity theft or malware so instead you just go to the company you go

to their website and all legitimate coupons will be there. save you have earned quite a reputation. warning people about identity theft and these quote you all the time saying there's a reason they call them scam artists and i want everybody who's watching to bookmark steve's website is scam aside dot com and he's got a tab right at the top of the page for scams that are proliferating now during this pandemic lock down because these guys stay up day and night trying to rip us off steve i appreciate you keeping in touch with us and we're going to have you back soon and again i hope everybody watching will bookmark scam aside dot com thank you what tourney author bentley university professor and ace scam buster stephen jay jay wiseman. and thank you for watching the big picture if you want to see us somewhere else you can also get our t.

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