on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to a guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see of. hello and welcome to crossfire we're all things are considered well it's finally happening the russia great hoax sold to the public is unraveling the architects of the hoax along with their accomplices and the media are being exposed what did obama and by know and when did they know it will anyone be held accountable.

to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest glenn these and he is an associate professor at the university of south eastern norway as well as author of russia's geo economic strategy for a greater eurasia and in budapest we crossed the george said you know he is author of bombs for peace nato is humanitarian war on yugoslavia our gentlemen are stuck rules in effect that means you can jump in here and i was ok let's go to budapest 1st story you know for the last 3 and a half years almost form it's being called the russia gate hoax there is been. foisted upon us by the media and by the establishment primarily on the left but you know what it should be called the obama game because of what has happened with linda you get my point go ahead george absolutely the revelations during the past 2 weeks have been stunning. be with us we'll have the revelations about the mosque

or the unmasking request which previously we had been told by james clapper the former director of national interest that's very rare almost never happened and only the most senior level of the ministration have access. now it turns out that every single act yes this is the secretary in any department who has access to the utmost but even more serious was as in the famous show the post story the dog that didn't bite back in the night which is there was no unmasking request about lee the trying issue throughout russia hoax story which was the flint kesey act wolk it took place on december the 29th when obama issued his sanctions ruling and here is the expulsion of the diplomats. and from that moment done from december the 29th through to january the 5th there were no unmarked requests so the

story that we had been told which is that oh well you know who we were spying on just we are because he's a russian ambassador and he's. there and it was spying on him and coincidentally we picked up his conversation with clint is untrue there were no unmasking requests and yet by january the good which is when mccabe the deputy director of the f.b.i. is having a conversation with mary mccoy it was. just as by then mccabe knew all about the just react hole and was already bringing up the logan act and obama on january the 5th also knew all about the flynn gets the acro so how did they know about it there were no unmasking requests that lease the conclusion that it was flynn and flynn always who was the target of the obama administration they were spying on flynn and who would have the authority to order this flight the f.b.i.

didn't because the f.b.i. there was no phase the warrant in flint because it would have known about it from the inspector general report and he said no there was no files that warrant wasn't a cia this it's illegal for the cia to spy on an american citizen so it had to have come from above and let it really just point to the central figure in all of this and it's been obvious from the stuff that people like comi and others wouldn't have just been going around spying on the trunk campaign without authorization from somebody much more senior than if it's a counter intelligence operation they are the white house would obviously know it here you know you don't blend i've been covering this story slavish me exhaustively for its rina have years and i have always been very careful to choose my words trying and i have never invoked obama jurek lee however we. last weekend when he was talking out with his cronies on a conversation which of course was obviously fed to the media and his supreme.

leisure about how the justice department has called for the end of the prosecution of obama general flynn and this shows a direct connection also we know that joe biden was on list but with as you know no math lin's name to everybody was doing it apparently everybody denied it also so i'm very very curious here is the difference renay have 2 years we have slaved away on this program with x. and trying to understand how all the moving pieces were and now as this is unraveling this conspiracy because it was is that you have the mainstream media and the political establishment there's nothing to see here i mean this is still insulting to the public and this is a such a disservice in journalism because isn't it i think it's one of the reasons why there's so much discord in the united states about the endemic is that people have lost their trust in media and actually did lost their trust in government as well

you know i their own there are so many occasions discussing it when this is a rush a hoax would eventually blow up and what time it what happened next well could be there are a caution now obviously. you know well sure to tread carefully because this is sort of very sleazy wrong can be denounced as conspiracy there is however a record of it during. this russian hoax investigation there was also argued that they did not believe in the collusion they were accused peddling conspiracy theory so if you do believe in the conspiracy theory then you were a conspiracy theorist and now it has been turned a bit on obama the same or something you said it's a conspiracy i would. very much agree with out what george said but this didn't come out of nowhere again if you go by that the democratic party who lost the election and there. hadn't seen 2060 and they commissioned this report known as the still us air where all this accusation began with oh this turned out also to be all

fabricated and state but nonetheless this became the source all right legend my own reasoning for this we are to do the research into it one of many us women are real let me jump in here but before they made these spies to replace they already knew the dossier was bogus ok again we have all predicates and they actually committed a fraud on device or court ok this is what we have learned recently as well i mean no matter where you want to jump in on this conspiracy hoax if it's not going to keep on by that then these revelations of came out very likely that they've been the most damaging because on the 29th of april we learned that the documents from the f.b.i. themselves revealed their objective is introduced out with general slater aflame of course when they go in to see him didn't tell me i was being investigated needed kone have to admit that this was very our press and this is not how things are. and

as we're showing these documents. i went there on a mission which was to try to provoke a more tricksy me into their life in order to have documents suggest to me to quit or be fired and this was referred to them. or this has been previously revealed in s.m.s. as between 2 f.b.i. agents who referred to the need to take trump down and get the insurance also against them though this is not a theory or accusation this is what has already been proven and no one is that dismissing it so if these are all the facts no one is contesting it you have to ask what actually makes it a conspiracy no i'm not saying maybe this is all a lot of coincidences obama knew nothing about it but surely this suggests it would be a good reason to investigate what the. obama did that abound and using this charity state to take our political columnist this is. well i think we're around

a point where i think that we have to have the. senior members of the administration including the president the vice president explain to us i mean go i mean i'm not looking for drama here ok i'm not i think we need to close this chapter year but we need to understand what's going on a lot of lives have been destroyed and incompetence in government institutions and in the media and big shots ok so i think we accountability is necessary here george i mean. i keep thinking about you know when when when when there was the change of the transition of power obama is on the record of warning president elect strummed about general flynn and kim jones whom i mean that's certainly not a coincidence and if it is then you know i can sell you the brooklyn bridge go ahead well exactly and again if you look at the timeline 2016 the f.b.i.

opens an investigation of flint what was the predicate a ridiculous story that he had attended a dinner at cambridge and he was romantically involved with a russian academic who supposedly had sinister g.o.u. connection there was no romantic involvement he didn't go off with this. russian academic and she was an academic youth so the f.b.i. opens this investigation finds eventually that there was nothing that the nothing derogatory it's about to close this investigation a ridiculous investigation to begin with and then. they're basically they get an order of don't close it now this all of it came from up above this was already because this is if you look at the. january the all that will be the f.b.i. matter want to close it by january the 3rd already mccabe is talking oh no we've got to keep the. the investigation going but on the basis of what he's not no longer

a russian asset the logan at that of course the logan act is so ridiculous that even they know that they can't possibly go ahead with the logan act so then they cook up this thing about getting him to lie on the record to f.b.i. agent but even that is a fraud because he didn't lie to the f.b.i. agents and it was a deliberate deception that was played which was the issue of the sanctions and the expulsion of the diplomats because the the in the indictment statement the defense gets referring to over he said he didn't talk about sanctions when he didn't talk about sanctions against the act didn't talk to him about sanctions he talked about the expulsion of the diplomats so flynn didn't like he said i didn't talk about sanctions i talked about expulsion of the diplomat and could not do better and he talked to in the about the united nations security council vote on israel and settlements which the obama administration was abstaining and so i mean if you really want to get to the origins of the origins of origins i don't call it that

israel game ok no one in the media ever mentions that at all you know glenn one of the things that you know we have again you know you have the people that push this this conspiracy theory that there are there are references always the rule of law and traditional norms here but even as we speak right now the rule of law is being dead brigaded you have the justice department dropping charges against general flynn and his trial the prosecution the defendants the lawyers full there in agreement there is no conflict with the united states government in general flynn but the judge says otherwise which a week ago the supreme court ruled 9 to 0 been adjudged. of that stature cannot change the rules of the game they can't enter a plea for the defendant ok particularly when the state has withdrawn 30 seconds

before we go to the break go ahead well that's one of the great try to use here just this loss of confidence. introducer i mean in the what about time and smile when someone's got a complaint other slimness being let go is either on the left as it is up from conspiracy now if it's based on the follow through on this look up what's happened to. her husband is the right will see this as you know a larger what is correct which is. a little less what took him down using the security state so no matter what happens now it's all polarized ols will among all that that we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on lynn gate or obama gate your choice stay with r.t. .

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welcome back to crossfire who are all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing obama gate. ok george when we go back you know budapest you're one of 8 we were talking about be the bait about general and might be prone to the break which is very very interesting i think i understand why judge sullivan is doing what he's doing is he's being obstructionist ok and he will fail in his endeavor to change the rules of the game it's only a matter of time he could actually you've been face impeachment but even if that is

the course of action that's going to take a long time i think i know what this group is all about is to force trump to hard. and in everyone's minds you got a pardon that must mean he's guilty and that's how the public will receive it here and they're trying to force trump's hand again it has nothing to do about that they think this individual though i do not agree with on everything he is always these before he became national security advisor but it's just a fact that this person's rights have been grossly violated here what they want was of the worst from the get a pardon and they'll save the big 3 because if you don't get this conviction this is patently obvious it was a conspiracy theory that just completely unraveled is one of the sites where george yes i agree with that that that's the goal i think in other goal is to delay this for as long as possible because the moment this trial ends and the case is thrown out flynn will speak and then we go to find out much more about

wind was that obama was so obsessed with that why was it that obama targeted in such a long time he will speak out this is what solomon wants to prevent so he's. century 8 rason 8000 we'll have others you know there's a miki coming in with arguments and that will have another judge coming in with an argument just to the latest on this must work to get past november because the moment flynn speaks it will be highly damaging to the democrats this is a 3 star general he has been mia. and you know attacked in an outrageous fashion he's going to speak out and this will radiate biting so i think that's what some of this o'sullivan is always political as a political process. and he's now trying to save obama particularly after obama

made his dramatic intervention because he's been silent all this time is to completely silent about russia gate suddenly he steps in and why does he suddenly step then because it affects a plan flynn is about to go and sled is about to speak out and obama then rushes in and issues is so-called secret. injunction to his his minions i think they i think the obama world has a taste of what's going to come glenn because a joe biden was asked by media friendly people i think it was i think it was c.n.n. yes it was a.b.c. news with george stephanopoulos he was asked a softball question about his what was the reason why he asked for the unmasking of linen and the meeting that he attended in the white house then just discussed there and joe biden bungled it ok badly ok and you can bake it in bundles it all the time here but it's already planted the seed even in. the rural friendly media is

that there was something afoot here and believe me the drunks arrogance were never going to let this go and for very good reason that i mean the country was in the world i mean look how it's affected geopolitics this is a hoax i end. and it's likely it is hoaxes like a bell that you can't remain unfortunately a lot of things that happened as a result of this so i mean glenn how how does the how do we cover from this because no one in the media is good in madrid they were wrong is admitted there were people saying there's new conspiracies russia is going to undermine into 2020 alexion and i suppose they'll somehow say it was a russia's top of the pandemic i mean given the track record of laos for years i would be surprised so i mean what is the damage done by this conspiracy that isn't round go ahead well i think you oh this is will impact elections are a great step i was going to that's why i still relevant on the 4th of january when

when the f.b.i. suggested there was that. there was a compromise there was time to shut this down day out of their way and their leadership said no keep it open this is the same day when the obama stuff 1st began this. item was their 1st night of course you have to retract it. right e-mail so so are obviously this will because he simply implicated this well obviously they're much way into the election and i'm the mother of the sure how they can heal or overcome discuss with discuss before no matter what happens no the other side will see it as being. essentially and their views on the legal system and. even some of the republicans are being cautious about going after obama because you turn this president is going after the former president myself about business and this acclaimed of us what about the main problem though is you have

all those problems now with the security space which has been spent string for so long again this didn't come i don't know where you're going to find out you know james clapper and the cia director john brennan go tonight about the n.s.a. spying on americans and spied on the senate you have a turn in china. churnalism it doesn't make shame very very common to do all this and furthermore that the journalists on who seem to have much of an interest are into this and the larger reason because of this is you know in the past unless they were very critical of the security agencies but now they have them on as guests on their t.v. show. just now they're hiring them as well so the question now becomes also going to having a media will not just have disappeared just to read what's what the events of the world are and saw them to become too close but this is your state and this is how the problem with this polarization because if if. they're all going against that trump administration must mean they're good and would take their side so this was

happens during extreme polarization you no longer have principle politics you know we are going to suggest a shot at each other as you protect your people in fact others are and in this polarization is paris not yet entire legal system not states has taken a big hit my and my recommendation will be to erase the problems because you have to get on much after you know that actually the 1st gate watergate you have to iraq the problems and then recovery can't just say this is going to hurt the country let's just. give this this nonsense out on the news or it's a very good because you know well i think that you know we could be easily accused of framing is just being and george i'm touring the primary the democrats really get beat and it was really amazing that that was good primary. bernie sent you so you're ready you know intel's says that you know that the russians are all rooting

for bernie sanders see they did it again ok they wanted it they've been trying to make out they tried to kneecap when they did it very. forceful job by letting you know when so early in the administration and then during the recent right mary bernie. sanders gets ensnarled bennett ok and of course the media gleefully report this year because they don't want sanders they i mean the left you know who are all the bed in the house republicans with it no less most venomous and not against progressive all the tyrants and there was another way to meet count bernie sanders during their primary i'm just trying to pick up on a point that glenn was saying here it's just not one person wanted ministration this is a this is a bad habit that is being allowed to continue go ahead yes i agree entirely and what is really going on here is very sinister i mean after all democracy is about the peaceful transition of power you lose an election you congratulate the

winner and you help the winner take over the seat of power that's what happens in a democracy we had exactly the opposite that took place under obama they didn't accept the result of the election they cooked up a fraudulent florrie about russian interference and collusion between russia and trump using teligent agencies to spread this story into the media dealership denies the incoming administration and as you say all the administration prevent the administration from pursuing the policy it can actually run on in the election what is it that really what a democracy is not suppose and this is much more serious than war to get i mean i know trump says this everyone dismisses it much much more serious i mean they're all you had was some clowns in the white house basement. doing nefarious things this is the head of the cia the head of the f.b.i. these other people in the government who are engaged in

a conspiracy to swallow what the people's vote they the interesting thing is and i never tire of mind our viewers of this is that that the real scandal of watergate was actually the cover of not the break ins ok and also watergate. the f.b.i. and the cia they were asked in the next administration i asked for help they said no clear we're not going to get involved in your mess ok and of course the media played a responsible role glenn now we have now we have now is security state the deep state and media in locks up a step with one political party or one political ideology they're all mobilized together i would actually throw in hollywood and the universities know well that maybe this is what makes it so the berry very different and i think that again i remember doing my 1st program on this after when it 1st broke ok and i said the damage this will do to institutions in the belief in democracy will be hard to

underestimate and i think i've been proven my and i'm very proud of cross for covering this so i transparently for the last 3 and a half years we've got it right i very rarely pound myself on the back but this program got to write it because of guests like you go ahead. and i don't know i think it's for the center is this worth an alter your fine to do this see a post-mortem of 0 on top and because it imagine where we are now where elected officials if then immediately synergy can hear you know if they can have a post-mortem why they lost the election in 2016 why do we think that it's even possible that they will have a post-mortem this year ok because i would say they're ideologically obsessed reason is not part of their political clout it was i'm sorry go ahead well this is a problem now no to know for fact what was previously sis to be conspiracy about to have the f.b.i. have the head of the cia and that they're all working out they're really against on their mind you know some of the election now that we know this and this are

recognized. well roboto we're going to do about it was still that we see that there's an interesting phenomenon where they look to the fish if they're trying to challenge these heads of the security states even though they are not being true to a lot. you still are treated as being almost treasonous you know you really are living in a fantasy land can you not listen to this if you ask for any evidence we're going to what is actually is evidence of destruction what exactly went in russia and cooperate this is this is maddening and still it's just accept that if you question it they simply point out well you want to know tonight we're going and then there's no george here in budapest i remember using a communist hungary i think long as poland this is what this sounds like this is now just a bomb it's all in how we now believe will it make my guess and also and in budapest and thanks to our viewers who are watching us here are you seeing x. number.

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