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hello and welcome to crossfire we're all things are considered well it's finally happening the russia gate hoax sold to the public is unraveling the architects of the hoax along with their accomplices and the media are being exposed what did obama and by know and when did they know or will anyone be held accountable. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest glenn these and he is an associate professor at the university of south eastern norway as well as author of russia's
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geo economic strategy for a greater eurasia and in budapest we crossed the george said you know he is author of bombs for peace nato is humanitarian war on yugoslavia our gentlemen are stuck rules in effect that means you can jump in and i was preaching ok let's go to budapest 1st george you know for the last 3 and a half years almost for me it's being called russia gay because there is been. foisted upon us by the media and by the establishment primarily on the left but you know what it should be called obama gate because of what has happened with women gays you get my point go ahead george absolutely be the revelations during the past 2 weeks have been stunning i mean with us we'll have the revelations about the mosque or the unmasking requests which previously we have been told by a scrap of the former director of national interest that's very rare almost never happen only the most see. one year level of the ministry should have access through
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a mosque now it turns out that every single act yes this is the secretary in any department who has access to the un must be but even more serious was as in as in the famous show the post story the dog that didn't bite bark in the night which is there was no unmasking request about lee the trying issue throughout the russia hoax story which was the flint guess the act woke it took place on december the 29th when obama issued his sanctions ruling and he has the expulsion of the diplomats. and from that moment done on december the 29th through january of this there were no unmarked requests so the story that we had been told which is that oh well you know we were spying on just we are because he's a russian ambassador and he's. there and it was spying on him and coincidentally we
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picked up his conversation with flynt is untrue there were no unmasking requests and yet by january the good which is when mccabe the deputy director of the f.b.i. is having a conversation with mary mccoy it was really just as by then but mccabe knew all about the clint just react role and was already bringing up the logan act and obama on january the 5th also knew all about the flynt gets the acro so how did they know about it there were no unmasking requests that lease the conclusion that it was flynn and flint always who was the target of the obama administration they were spying on flynt and who would have the authority to order this flight the f.b.i. didn't because the f.b.i. there was no fight as a warrant in flint because would have known about it from the inspector general report and he said no there was no fire as the warrant was in the cia this it's illegal for the cia to spy on an american citizen so it had to have come from
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above and let it really just point to the central figure in all of this and it's been obvious from the stuff that people like comi and others wouldn't have just been going around spying on the trunk campaign without authorization from somebody much more senior than if it's a counter intelligence operation they are the white house would obviously know it here you know you don't blend i've been covering this story slavish me exhaustively for this rain a half years and i have always been very careful to choose my words try and i have never invoked obama jurek lee however we. last weekend when he was talking out with his cronies on a conversation which of course was obviously fed to the media and his supreme. leisure about how the justice department has called for the end of the prosecution of obama gen slim and this shows a direct connection also we know that joe biden was on list what with asking the
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nats lin's name to everybody was doing it apparently everybody denied it also so i'm very very curious here is the difference renay have 2 years we have slaved away on this program with x. and trying to understand how all the moving pieces were and now as this is unraveling this conspiracy because it was is that you have the mainstream media and the political establishment there's nothing to see here i mean this is so insulting to the public and this is such a disservice in journalism because isn't it i think it's one of the reasons why there's so much discord in the united states about the endemic is that people have lost their trust in media and actually did lost their trust in government as well. there are so many occasions discussing it when this is a rush a hoax will eventually blow up and what time it what happened. well it will be there are a caution now obviously. you know well sure the trend carefully because this is
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sort of very easily wrong can be denounced as conspiracy there is however a record of it during. this russian hoax investigation there was also argued that they did not believe in the collusion they were. peddling conspiracy theory so if you do believe in the conspiracy theory that you were a conspiracy theorist and now it has been turned a bit on obama then the same words are being used as a conspiracy i would. very much agree with out what george said but this didn't come out of nowhere again if you go by that that the democratic party who lost the election and there. i didn't see him 2060 and they commissioned this report known as the still us air where all this accusation began with this turned out also to be all fabricated and state but nonetheless this became the source all right legend my own reasoning for this we are to do the research into it one of many us women are
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real because let me jump in here but before they made these spies to replace they already knew the dossier was bogus ok again we have all predicates and they actually committed a fraud on device or court ok this is what we have learned recently as well i mean no matter where you want to jump in on this conspiracy hoax if it's not going to keep on by then these revelations of came out very likely that they've been the most damaging because on the 29th of april we learned that the documents from the f.b.i. themselves revealed their objective is introduced out with general slater a fleet of course when they were going to see him get in tell him he was being investigated needed kone had to admit that this was very odd press and this is not how things are. and as we're showing these documents. i went there on a mission which was to try to provoke a more tricksy me into their life in order to have documents suggest to me to quit
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or be fired and this was referred to them. or this has been previously revealed in the s.m.s. is between 2 f.b.i. agents who refer to the need to take trump down and get the insurance also against them but i go this is not a theory or accusation this is what has already been proven and no one is that dismissing it so if these are all the facts no one is contesting it you have to ask what actually makes it a conspiracy no i'm not saying maybe this is all a lot of coincidences obama knew nothing about it but surely this suggests it would be a good reason to investigate what the. obama the that abound in using this charity state to take over political columnist this is. well i think we're around a point where i think that we have to have the. senior members of the administration including the president the vice president explain to us i mean go i
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mean i'm not looking for drama here ok i'm not i think we need to close this chapter year but we need to understand what's going on a lot of lives have been destroyed and incompetence in government institutions and in the media and big shots ok so i think we accountability is necessary here george i mean. i keep thinking about you know when when when when there was the change of the transition of power obama is on the record of warning president elect strummed about general flynn and kim jones i mean that's certainly not a coincidence and if it is then you know i can sell you the brooklyn bridge go ahead well exactly and again if you look at the timeline 2016 the f.b.i. opens an investigation of flint what was the predicate a ridiculous story that he had attended a dinner at cambridge and he was romantically involved with a russian academic who supposedly had sinister g.o.u.
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connection there was no romantic involvement he didn't go off with this. russian academic she was an academic youth well and so the f.b.i. opens this investigation finds eventually that there was nothing that the nothing derogatory it's about to close this investigation a ridiculous investigation to begin with and then. they're basically they get an order don't close it now this all of it came from up above this was already because this is if you look at the. january the all that will be the f.b.i. man who want to close it by january the 3rd already in the cave is talking no no we've got to keep the. the investigation going but on the basis of what he's not no longer a russian asset the logan at that of course the logan act is so ridiculous that even they know that they can't possibly go ahead with the logan act so then they cook up this thing about getting him to lie on the record to f.b.i.
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agent but even that is a fraud because he didn't lie to the f.b.i. agents and it was a deliberate deception that was played which was the issue of the sanctions and the expulsion of the diplomats because the the in the indictment a statement of the offense gets referring to over he said he didn't talk about sanctions when he didn't talk about sanctions against the act didn't talk to him about sanctions he talked about the expulsion of the diplomats so flynn didn't like it he said i didn't talk about sanctions i talked about expulsion of the diplomat and could not do better and he tante that about the united nations security council vote on israel and settlements which the obama administration was abstaining on so i mean if you really want to get to the origins of the origins of the origins i don't know is it israel games ok no one in the media ever mentions that at all you know glenn one of the things that you know we have again you know you have the people that push this this conspiracy theory that they are the reference is always
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the rule of law and traditional norms here but even as we speak right now the rule of law is being brigaded you have the justice department dropping charges against general flynn and his trial the prosecution the defendants the lawyers full there in agreement there is no conflict with the united states government in general flynn but that but the judge says otherwise which a week ago the supreme court ruled 9 to 0 that a judge. of that stature cannot change the rules of the game they can't enter a plea for the defendant ok particularly when the state has withdrawn 30 seconds before we go to the break go ahead well that's one of the great try to disappear just this loss of confidence. introducer i mean in the water on top and small on someone's got a plate other slimness being let go is either on the left this it is up from
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conspiracy now if it's the dogs follow through on this look up what's happened to the husband is the right will see the. larger what is correct which is a little less what took him down using the security state so no matter what happens now it's all polarized ols will among welcome to all of that and that we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on limbaugh or obama gate your choice stay with r.t. .
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welcome back to crossfire who are all things are considered i'm peter all about to remind you we're discussing obama gate. ok george let me go back you in budapest here one day we were talking about be the bait about general when might be prone to the break which is very very interesting i think i understand why judge sullivan is doing what he's doing is he's being obstructionist ok and he will fail in his endeavor to change the rules of the day it's only a matter of time he could actually you've been face impeachment but even if that is the course of action that's going to take a long time i think i know what this group is all about is to force trump to hard. and in everyone's minds you got a pardon that must mean he's guilty and that's how the public will receive it here and they're trying to force trump's hand again it has nothing to do about that they
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think this individual though i do not agree with on everything is always these before he became national security advisor but it's just a fact that this person's rights have been grossly violated here what they want so forced from they give a pardon and they'll save the big 3 because if you don't get this conviction this is patently obvious it was a conspiracy theory that just completely unraveled is one of the sites where george yes i agree with that that that's the goal i think in other goal is to delay this for as long as possible because the moment this trial ends and the case is thrown out flynt will speak and then we go to find out much more about wind was that obama was so obsessed with that why was. that obama had targeted land for such a long time he will speak out this is what solomon wants to prevent so he's essentially a rational ape oh well we'll have others you know where there's
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a miki coming in with arguments and that we'll have another judge coming in with an argument just to the latest on this must work to get past november because the moment flynn speaks it will be highly damaging to the democrats this is a 3 star general he has been seen. and you know attacked in an outrageous fashion he's going to speak out and this will really. bite and so i think that's what some of this o'sullivan is always a political as a political cause. and he's now trying to save obama particularly after obama made his dramatic intervention because he's been silent all this time is to completely silent about russia gate suddenly he steps in and why does he suddenly step then because it affects plan flynn is about to go and sled is about to speak out and obama then rushes in and issues he is so-called secret. injunction to
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his his minions i think they i think the obama world has a taste of what's going to come glenn because a joe biden was asked by media friendly people i think it was i think it was c.n.n. yes it was a.b.c. news with george stephanopoulos he was asked a softball question about his well the reason why he asked for the unmasking of lynn and the meeting that he attended in the white house then just discussed there and joe biden bungled it ok badly ok and you can bake it in bundles it all the time here but it's already planted the seed even in. the rural friendly media is that there was something afoot here and believe me the drunks arrogance are never going to let this go for any. and for very good reason that i mean the country was in the world i mean look i would suspect that geopolitics this is hoax i end this and it is hoaxes like a bell that you can't remain unfortunately
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a lot of things that happen as a result of this so i mean glenn how how does the how do we cover from this because no one in the media is good in madrid they were wrong is a myth and there are more people saying there's new conspiracies russia is going to undermine into 2020 alexion and i suppose they'll somehow say it was a russia's top of the pandemic i mean given the track record of laos for years i would be surprised so i mean what is the damage done by this conspiracy that isn't round go ahead well i think you know how does this will impact elections are a great step that is going to that's why i still relevant on the 4th of january when when the f.b.i. suggests that there was. a time line there was a compromise and it's time to shut this down they off their way and leadership said no keep it open this is the same day when the obama stuff 1st began this a mosque in. iraq by the us their 1st night of course you have to try to.
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write e-mail so so obviously this will because he simply implicated this will obviously very much weigh into the election and i'm no longer the sure how they can heal or overcome discuss with discuss before no matter what happens no the other side will see it as being. essentially and their views on the legal system and. even some of the republicans are being cautious about going after obama because if it hurts president is going after the former president myself about president and i this acclaimed of us what about the main problem though is you have all those problems now with the security space which has been spent for so long again this income i don't know where you're going to find out you know ahead james . for the cia director john brennan demo tonight about the n.s.a. spying on americans brennan spied on the senate you have attorney general eric churnalism this doesn't make change very very common to all of this and furthermore
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that the journalists only seem to have much of an interest or knew of this and that the larger reason because of this is you know in the past the left were very critical of the security agencies but now they have them on as guests on their t.v. show and just now they're firing them as well so the question now becomes also going to having a media will not just how this occurred just want to read what's what the events of the world are and saw them to become too close with this affair is that in this hour the problem with this polarization because if if. they're all going against that trump administration must mean they're good and would take their side so this was happens during extreme polarization you no longer have principle politics you know we are going to suggest a shot at each other is you protect your people in fact others are and in this polarization is there's not yet entire legal system not states has taken a big hit my in my recommendation would be to air their problems because you have
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to have you know much after you know that actually the 1st gate watergate you have to erode the problems and then recovery can't just say this is gonna hurt the country let's just. give this this nonsense to have on the news or it's a very good because you know well i mean you know we could be easily accused of framing is just being and george i'm hearing the primary the democrats really get beat and it was really amazing that we got a primary. bernie sent you so you're even you know intel's says that you know that the russians are all rooting for bernie sanders see they did it again ok they wanted it they've been trying to make out they tried to kneecap when they did it very. forceable job might be right taking over when so early in the administration and then during the recent primary bernie sanders gets ensnarled bennett ok and of course the media gleefully report this year because they don't want sanders they i
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mean the left you know who are all the bed in the house republicans whip it no less most democrats and not so run against progressive all the time and there was another way to meet count bernie sanders during their primary i'm just trying to pick up on a point that glen was saying here it's just not one person wanted ministration this is a this is a bad habit that is being allowed to continue go ahead yes i agree entirely and what is really going on here is very sinister i mean after all democracy is about the peaceful transition of power you lose an election you congratulate the winner and you help the winner take over the seat of power that's what happens in a democracy we had exactly the opposite that took place under obama they didn't accept the result of the election they cooked up a fraudulent florrie about russian interference and collusion between russia and
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trump using teligent agencies to spread this story into the media dealership denies the incoming administration and as you say all the administration prevent the administration from pursuing the policy it can actually run on in the election what is it that really what a democracy is not suppose and this is much more serious than war to get i mean i know trump says this everyone dismisses it much much more serious i mean they're all you had was some clowns in the white house basement. doing nefarious things this is the head of the cia head of the f.b.i. these are the people in the government who are engaged in a conspiracy to swat the people's vote they the interesting thing is and i never tire of mind. our viewers of this is that that the real scandal of watergate was actually the cover of not the break ins ok and also watergate the f.b.i. and the cia they were asked in the next administration or asked for help they said
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no clear we're not going to get involved in your mess ok and of course the media played a responsible role glenn now we have we have now is security state the deep state and media in locks up a step with the one political party or one political ideology they're all mobilized together i would actually throw in hollywood and the universities and all will that but this is what makes it so the barry very different and i think that again i remember doing my 1st program on this after when it 1st broke ok and i said the damage this will do to institutions in the belief in democracy will be hard to underestimate and i think i've been proven my and i'm very proud of crossed for covering this so i transparently for the last 3 and a half years we've got it right i very rarely pound myself on the back but this program got to write it because of guests like you go ahead. and i don't know i think it's for centuries this were slaughtered if i don't do this part of oh oh on
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top and because it matter where we are now where elected officials if they were immediately center taken here you know if they can't have a post-mortem why they lost the election in 2016 why do we think that it's even possible that they will have a post-mortem this year ok because i would say they're ideologically obsessed reason is not part of their political clout it was i'm sorry go ahead well this is a problem now i know that we know for fact what was previously cis to be conspiracy about this and the f.b.i. have the head of the cia that they're all working there really against on their mind you know some of the election now that we know this and this is our recognize . what roboto we're going to do about it was still that we see that there's an interesting phenomenon. elect of the fish he did try to challenge these heads of the security state even though they are not being true to life is still our trade as being almost treasonous you know you really are living in
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a fantasy land how can you not listen to this and if you ask for any evidence we're going to what's actually is evidence of destruction what exactly when russia. cooperate this is this is maddening and still it's just accept that if you question it they simply point out well you know what i know i. learned it in another is not george you're in budapest i remember using a communist hungary i'm ignorant long as poland this is what this sounds like this is how it was they bomb was all an army now that only want to make my guess and also and in budapest and makes 2 of us were watching us eat our museum. which.
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you cannot be vulgar with yet you like. my. during the vietnam war us forces also bomb to neighboring laos there was a secret war. and for years the american people did not know. why not allow so much in is officially the must carry back country per capita call as human history millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this small agricultural country jordyn we have been going to continue tapping even today kids in laos full victim to bomb. drops decades ago is the u.s. making amends for their tragedy and what help to the people needed in that little land of mines.
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