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after time here we're going on the ground on the 80th anniversary of the dunkirk disaster as boris johnson arguably seeks to harness the dunkirk spirit desperately clinging on to a top advisor credited with putting him in power and winning britain's breck's it vote against neo liberalism coming up on the show the chief advisor dominic cummings may not be a member of the tory party but one former tory health minister did resign over a health care scandal we asked margaret thatcher's health minister if we don't carry why britain has the worst but capita coronavirus death toll in the world and should coronavirus survivor boris johnson be in trouble because of an infected advisor visiting a console to test out his eyesight but his role in sanctioning weapon sales to the world's worst humanitarian crisis we speak to the un in yemen the cemeteries are overflowing the country bombed with u.k. weapons from u.k. warplanes trained by the u.k.'s royal air force. all the more coming up in today's

going underground and 1st once upon a time there was a u.k. government official from jobs here demographer trail minister edwina currie and redefines are coming on obviously a terrible death toll being announced the highest in the world but everything here is about dominic cummings borrows from his top adviser do you think specially after a tweet from the civil service that apparently there's an inquiry into cummings johnson they're all a bit naive in the sense that even after a landslide victory they thought that they could get breck's it done my impression is that everyone in this country has behaved very well with lock down and done that best or at least most people have and it's all got their interest rate saying it's weeks and weeks and weeks of it now we see more months of it to come and people get frustrated and angry and they don't entirely understand what's going on and they don't have the math to do the statistics and so on so it's much easier to focus on

one person choices that they made months ago and the most panicky time and the choices that one person made for the sake of this child i don't think it's actually got much to do it dominic cummings the top think it's a proxy for attacking the prime minister who as you. rightly say got big majority and you want to get. and i think anything can weaken him is going to be fair game. i must say my admiration for the prime minister went up on sunday when he dominic cummings i thought that was a very honorable thing to do hunt in fact that could only wish the same interest made all those it's sick. and arguably this is with more establishment forces than even under mrs thatcher maybe i mean are there anti democratic forces that are trying to overturn the referendum let alone the manifesto of the conservative party in december there is still quite

a lot of people that we won't ever leave the 8 you we actually left on the 31st of january the transition period that we're in now simply maintains the old arrangements until such time as we get an agreement if we don't get an agreement we leave without one and that will happen at the end of december and i'm quite sure prime minister is not going to be deflected by on that and we have to hope the brussels see sense and put economics and business had to close 6 and i haven't up till now but yes there are people who think that anything anything any means whatever to stop breck's it and to get back into the e.u. is wes doing going back to the health issues you say are a big supporter of johnson i mean obviously you were working for a prime minister who was a scientist was is that you're after all what do you make of johnson's handling of as i say the worst death toll per capita in the world from coronavirus he said he

was following the science do you think the scientists what they were advising him is now no need some scrutiny. i'm sure they're miscreation they are of all of this but it's a good idea to wait till it's all over and not try to do it right in the middle we're still very much in the middle of all this i think one of the key elements that has been the finger is been put on the fact that very few people understand exponential growth you know i did an economics degree and statistics and even i don't really grasp the difference between making a decision on a sunday and making a decision on the next sunday by which states we've had exponential growth of the spread of a very of an infection that lays people. but that's what happened if we had shut down a week or 10 days earlier we would have been closer to what germany has endured and not in the situation that we are now but we didn't and we didn't because

you know you would read all about this and then you look around and you see none of your friends are in. nobody's keeling over depends obviously who your friends are if you're visiting care homes presumably would be different but i think what i and i are you are it what you want the kind of people that would shrug it off of the ones around the city in caps and if that this is just a cat homes have been stopped very quickly so that it was believed that the care homes were going to be secure that they would be in town without outside this itches i don't see anybody realized exactly the way the care homes function which is the evenings and weekends and have a nice agency staff and that they are peripatetic and that afterwards they go home and live a normal life always an argument or nationalized care service there but when you say we can talk about the inquiry later of course some would say we need these

questions answered right now and i think one question is what is the connection between big pharma and the scientific advice that patrick violence obviously a big guy had to g s k a scandal ridden big pharma company the reason i ask you is you seem to when you resigned over talking about health public health issues seem to be going completely against a massive farm lobby and the big agriculture businesses in the sense they don't yet you tell us that we should be careful about eating eggs that make a right but the getting steaks and cat homes the council run care home so say use agency workers so there's no distinction back in fashion the best care homes in this country are run by private companies and they do a tremendously good job the 2nd thing to say is look we can't solve this without private industry we can't solve this without big business the resets can be done in university hospital labs like oxford university and in fact there are more than 90

vaccine research projects over the world and what they're going to be repaid and by golly is nobel prizes and cheap. yes which is wonderful much easier to get funding from their own words but you can't roll out millions and millions of doses without really big industry which is investing its own money and that is on a scale that beats any think that an individual government could do a much answer of a i'm not sure the communist party of china would agree with you there i wouldn't agree with the communist party in china or anything ok well i've got to ask you i mean can a politician tell the truth to the public about public health because you are trying to do that arguably. but you have a very difficult for politicians to talk about public health and be truthful where you could ask your colleagues in the communist party in china how much truth i'd tell. you no i don't like all exist no yet. but yes

i've obviously been it's a state program of vaccination presumably and will happen right now rather than big pharmaceutical companies big monopoly pharmaceutical companies arguably had they been more open in november about the spread of this this new coronavirus have they not tried to shut down 9 doctors and make them recount one of them at least one of them later died then passed the world has been more aware of the problem much sooner and it's now quite clear that the illness had reached europe quite early on in january and cost me sooner than that and we would all have been in a better shape so to answer your question is it possible for public health ministers to speak the truth yes of course it is and to the public believe them yes they do the problem that faced 32 years ago was actually that the public believed

us were very cautious and very sensible about food safety but my colleagues in government particularly the ones responsible in the ministry of agriculture fisheries some food they thought that it was. not not important they thought they weren't and i all they were listening to the juices i said closing down the produces which is what the chinese government did but it's now allow them to reopen they'd they'd back what the but just to and it was many years before the producers themselves came to me and said you were right and we now need your help well the chinese government or a few did the allegations they didn't act with propriety we invite the chinese ambassador on on the on the show but this public private partnership that you speak of of course the government is now involved in some app and it's involved. in contact tracing i mean once serco to do it one of these private companies associated arguably with the blair and brown administrations already it's been it's

been caught leaking addresses of traces and this is a company after all that took responsibility for fraud over electronic tagging why is it that we can't have public companies doing this like arguably under mrs thatcher because mr thatcher was no fan or at least in practice she didn't do nearly as much privatisation of the n.h.s. as tony blair or gordon brown little and cameron you know the idea that government can control everything is an illusion and the idea that ministers can control things better than manages in a marriage of different private businesses leads to all sorts of mistakes is fine when everything is going well but it's not fine for ministers to be solely in charge when things go badly wrong what what government should do is set standards maintain them and sure through monitoring go regulator a framework so that standards are properly adhere to ensure that there's education

and training backing for that to produce people of the quality that can go into private industry and private labs but then you know governments don't have access to the same sorts of money that huge international businesses do and the skills that huge international business cannot read my personal view is that it was a mistake for us in the n.h.s. to try and develop the tracing out ourselves and that money could have been much better use for all sorts of other things and that google and apple already have a tracing out which is being widely used in other countries which would have given us that connectivity and which would probably end up using anyway because it works so you know why waste government money just because you're trying to have government control in the end the history. of the world economists shows that actually capitalism with good government works far better than anything else but during a global pandemic things are different of course governments have more money than

the biggest multinationals they can print the debt why is it in paris if you go on the metro you get free hand sanitizer p.p.a. in britain we're always we're expected to buy our own because there's something fundamental here about what it is to be a citizen or a subject in a pandemic and arguably there is a correlation there with being the country with the worst per capita coronavirus death rate in the world before you keep repeating that can i remind you we are one of the biggest countries and we have one of the highest percentages of all people in this country where we have something like over 4 100000 people that were in care homes 600000 people at home being cared for huge amount 1000000 people in the most vulnerable categories we are faster than the rest of europe we are blacker than the rest of europe we have a whole range of mortgages like diabetes and outside those which are widespread so

we're actually much more vulnerable in many ways than many many other countries plus we're much more honest about statistics to come to your comparison with france france is a much more of a control economy and always has been it's very hard in france for example to dismiss people to dismiss employees one outcome of that is out with pandemics in normal times unemployment rates in france a much higher are as much as twice as high as they are in the united kingdom so much free a society is one in which it is possible to recover really quite quickly and i really have not heard any call in the world for free hand sanitizers but seems to me a nonsense i would rather the money be spent on stuff that is what i think the n.h.s. should be doing i regard thank you. after the break coronavirus strikes the country where aerial bombardment weaponry sanctioned by then far as i could see boris johnson has killed all wounded nearly 20000 men women and children we talk to the

u.n. on the ground which claims yemen's entire healthcare system has effectively collapsed all the civil coming over but doing going underground. problem drugs don't always come from unscrupulous dealers but from pharmacies too in every state in the united states we see means very sharp increase in the number of people seeking treatment for addiction to prescription opioids invited to america under the banner of medicine he persisted with the pain but instead of trying to wean him off though she just goes after dose after dose after dose and really became his drug dealer so who's to blame patients doctors manufacturers all the governments of. both seemed wrong. but all wrong just don't call. me.

yet to shape out just the conflict that's occurring and engagement equals betrayal . when something find themselves worlds apart. just of the common ground. welcome back and out of the world's worst humanitarian crisis yemen way u.k. weapon sales given the nod by u.k. prime minister boris johnson and led to unimaginable pain and now a bombed out health care system trying to cope with coronavirus joining me now via skype from santa is the u.n. high commissioner for refugees yemen representative john make a law was thank you so much on the good of a coming on and we've been covering it for years on this show yemen i have to tell you where. speaking to you from a country with the worst. death toll from coronavirus maybe more than $60000.00

people dead but we shouldn't be complacent to stand about coronavirus striking yemen we had a really add on sat night with the situation in yemen. 5 years of conflict that left the population very weak with the rule of i don't you need to be now it's 3600000 of scammony are industry by vehicle seats in the very overcrowded there are sites in makeshift area dance most of the population do not have access to running water therefore easier if it could be stand seeing your eyes only sharon or 'd even washing your hands treated early if not or a possibility in your man so we fear that they call an ambulance which spread very fast really in the community it's already started and that in this story will be very high there are no official figures human rights watch claiming that 16000000 or 55 percent of the population may be infected by coronavirus can that be is it in

that ballpark range it's very difficult to i say found many people die from going out there is as we speak knowing that young men have so sorry please do not have enough for testing kits so we can all treat god to death or even their recovery plus we have to remember that unfortunately in yemen people die every day far these communicable disease which are very senior not seen. wrong sides going out of errands to doing a feature of my life the acronym and therefore it's really difficult to distinguish between a shot the key is going up by reason which obvious although casey on top of that how much of the have been destroyed by the complete let's say the stigma to zation a wrong people will recall at the same time of course now that we use them the 1st one in particular refugee union men migrants the streets the pollution in yemen and then the 1st one discriminator losing their each out and being denied access to

medical care i want to get on to the destruction the military destruction in a 2nd is it true that you the un has been pulling stuff out i know that obviously cholera a previous epidemic is continuing there repeatedly the worst cholera outbreak in history what's different about coronavirus in yemen that the u.s. has been pulling stuff out leaving you there i notice that. very issue is their medical capacity fall on staff are you many chants like careful. and no see the need in the u.k. i reach it decrease but we have to have and we were not able to provide more including because of lack of funding. for example or enough medically creep meant in kids one of us we developed this to be a symptom of going out batteries so we decided to send share models and have held their international cards away but our national colleagues which were younger from

time asked deal within their own community to bending their communities of the most important segment of society in young men and just to be clear these figures are true you have only 520 i.c.u. intensive care beds in the country there are only $38.00 ovid isolation beds there and around 70. testing kids in a country of 29000000 where they can it. not on you take treatment that you're mentioning but also the nazis and their specialized doctors to act 10 to 2 patients over here britain is sending apparently 810000000 pounds worth of aid only about just remind us about the war because over here boris johnson it's being recalled here that he noted through 1200000000 pounds in arms sales just 2 days after a food factory was destroyed 2 months before u.k.

weaponry involved in the bombing of a funeral killing maybe 140 people just tell me about the how the effects of the war impact now the coronavirus response there war is really the root cause these so they blow up my own poor to me very lack of access to adequate terror has kept sweet point 6000000 yemeni i've been the states it was the last 5 years by the concrete dipping their bare policies being bald ourself and having to leave to weave in the big rock and night to save their life and we have a situation where most of. the free time yeah leaving me now that side which i will use those improvised. and. overcrowded weights very difficult for them to take care of themselves in time so for communicate both disease like care they're growing out of barrels so indeed as

long as we don't address the root causes of all of this music we see that concrete you many chain will only be able to do really a drop and now from the now as we speak now to do what we. should be doing of course the united states is also providing funding for a. although the trumpet ministration were seeking to speed up the 8000000000 dollars arms package to the arabia will that not help things in yemen i mean i will leave to the british and diplomats the question of the results there concrete we human a chance now we focused on sitting life. leading early to beat up this suffering and i was immediately up there also circulation but did we have a concern that we are almost how of the year end do you any fiji agence yet

knocking on we see such a percent of the funding that we need to provide life's a beam and i see sense to those these bits from you need to think through reducing young men so they the next equal and human nature any patty that we recommit funding for human nature an aspect of the cry of these in yemen and that all schools of parties to the conflict and the pretty dition and deep throat maps recommit to finding a political solution to the conflict iran of course denies sending arms to the conflict the un secretary general antonio good terror has has been in touch with the iranian foreign minister zarif welcoming iran's efforts but both of them are saying the ports of yemen must be open any news on whether the ports are open so humanitarian aid can get through maybe from iran i should say iran has been said being a humanitarian the energy resources to venezuela there is fish an envoy of the secret

agent all the 4 young men evening. track fath by the un each other in our organization choose a goal and via a lot as well now that you can attend coordinate that in yemen. i will leave it to them to comment on this point but it's critical for me at the head of the un great for jet and see. that and it creeped my staff wondering are the internet experience camps with the basic dignity that i can give them asked in groups and family ties or if i cannot do that i won't put them at trieste by sending them and it creeped to come in egypt where the car now virus is spreading very rapidly i don't know whether you've been down there but yemen the humans a government in exile is saying that the largest environmental catastrophe in world history could be happening because of an oil tanker today the port leaking oil into

aden and the red sea here anything about that and do you think that will affect coastal communities. i have no more information to the to this forum sorry about that so when the trumpet ministration announced 225000000 dollars of emergency food aid which you i presume welcome would you want as part of that program some of that money to be gone going on the p.p. and that it's a hands out as as it were definitely more need more p.p. it's far on start far but there was immediate cause the. facilities are men but we also need the money to be able to maintain our cash assistance program. of the largest castro ground floor or internally displaced yemeni army and issues really a lot line i didn't time the greater need because they cannot move because of

curfew because a club dharm because they are losing their job because of this running down of the economy because that stigmatized because that seen as i want to move and then fall victim to out of the car and that violence we cannot our fault not giving them a bit of cash for them to buy basic food medicine cruel or even pay rent for their family trip a roof above their head these casualties will have the local community that have them by injecting a little bit of money into the local economy so we need really a comprehensive response one which combine wars that have super active but also all of the other human each and needs which have a way of knowing in your neck well assuming there's no war bombing before next week are you hopeful the end of next week's conference that these some of these issues are going to be resolved. so you have anything near to the pledging conference which with that thing the kingdom of saudi arabia and yes you're in a chance of

a hopeful of that that wall will not forget your men despite that we are well aware western societies and gulf countries are also looking at the amount of money they need to transcend there to be kathy's fam drag dress and need to get the sense you're going to be king factor. in their own society but nobody will be seeking that what if we don't make a country like you men. are and i vow he says well ok well just finally them the as i say the british backed war lots of western players there you think there's any truth that yemen may be wiped off the face of the earth but coronaviruses been said the reference to game ending wiped out wife made by a medical doctor. a man i cannot really comment on that what i can't comment on is that we the human attend no heart attack the most unique

ability in yemen we need the support and this is a duty of the international community to do what is right not what is right not only on a you many 10 and it becoming proud to call the game any population but what you describe also for the rest of the wall to wall these constant movement it will be missing a plant if we seeing that by not addressing the humanity and needs in yemen including copied we will not treat endangering the pick out for all of their communities beyond young men including into u.k. and that's where people around them move the virus is going to stay with us we need to address it here and now joining us thank you. thank you very much for keeping your mind on the new object now. that's it for the show will be bagong saturday 63 years to the eve of the conviction of playwright also

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