hello from rhode island where i live and if you 2 are working remotely during this pandemic shutdown is that temporary and if you do go back to the company's building how will that day to day experience feel different and what will be the new career opportunities in the new normal let's ask david lewis c.e.o. of operations a quick advice as companies in all industries companies of all sizes about all matters pertaining to human resources so he's been a busy guy lately david welcome back how are you. good to see kelly clarkson saying what doesn't kill you makes us stronger can numb bull companies emerge from this crisis better off i think they can i think we're all

learning how to do work differently and i think this is one of those life gives you lemons make lemonade type of a moment and as such i think this is one of those survival of the fittest things you're going to see businesses come out of this and come out stronger better and you're also going to see a lot of businesses unfortunately go under. yeah restaurants are gonna fold there's no 2 ways about it they've just been out of business for too long and as much as i miss the camaraderie back at the headquarters in washington i must say i have never felt claustrophobic during the couple of months since they sent us home and we still manage to do a show every week and i will confess that i am going to remember this restful time fondly but that's anecdotal you have actually researched this and one factoid you have surfaced which many of us can relate to 40 percent say they've gained weight

during quarantine and that's the 40 percent who admit it and i was equally unsurprised that nearly a 3rd that you have surveyed admit they're drinking more and you were very kind to surmise that we were easing isolation with the zoom happy hours but from a product to vittie standpoint how are employers and employees and customers tolerating this trio mo d. private of in person interaction. they're doing it the way we're doing it right now it's you know what's fascinating is how little i'm using my phone these days and how often i'm using this camera i'm talking into right now that's one of the big stories i think we're going to see out of all of this is that we've learned how to do business on a face to face basis without being in the same room when we do that and so businesses who have figured out how to master the art of skype or teams or zoom or

whatever the product is that they're using have really come to realize that this is going to be a game changer for how we interact with one another both in terms of our clients' center accounts as well as even our employees i mean even the companies that are going to reopen their offices in the coming weeks they're probably going to still be sitting you know 20 feet down the hall and not walk down the hall they're going to do what we're doing right now. yeah we're speaking with the h.r. expert david lewis from operations and who is conducting a series of free webinars and his website operations and dot com is a rich trove of management know how david we're seeing these plexiglas barriers at the post office the supermarket everywhere how apprehensive are employers and employees about returning to the workplace to talk about stay and 20 feet apart read the room. yeah that's that is the story right now is that what

governors are missing as they start to try and figure out how to reopen their states for a business is that this isn't necessarily as much about the guidelines that the business owners have to follow it's how the public perceives those guidelines to be are they complete do they make it safe for me to leave my house and one of the things you really worked on with our clients now is to ask your employees do a poll survey find out how they're feeling about going back to the office before you actually make that commitment and that plan because you're going to find that people have all sorts of issues concerns about their health concerns about the health of those they live with and that's going to be a driving factor in what your strategy is going to be going forward in terms of opening that office up that public concern is the number one issue right now for any business that's looking to reopen yeah i am not surprised there is a lot of about restoring supply but will demand be there david and i are

neighbors he's based in connecticut and i'm here in rhode island and both states are suffering revenue wise with the casinos closed and we are now told that the 2 big casinos in connecticut are open june 1 and that the experience will be very different so it's going to be interesting to see if people are where if they are willing to return to places even when there are places again and to another point you made david how many who will remain employed after the crisis won't return to a work place are there lessons learned from all this telecommuting we bento on. you know i was saying this morning to someone that i think we're going to be talking to our grandchildren and great grandchildren hopefully for around for that about how february of 2020 changed the way that we lived in the way that we did work and it's

everything from the workplace perspective it is about realizing now that those companies who embraced remote work before all of this have just gotten better at it and have come to realize how little they really need the office and for those companies that resisted this they've been forced to have to try it out and for many of them they are coming to the realization that this can work and here's the kicker when we move forward past this point and we get back to whatever normal looks like it's going to be a competitive advantage for a lot of companies to offer more in the way of remote work to their employees or the other way of looking at it is you're going to be an outlier if you're that company that actually does something that seems weird come 2022 which is you actually go to an office to do work i just do all of that from home this is going to change the way we work it's going to change the way we live. yeah i'm not to in

the business of given out investment advice but i can't think commercial property is a great investment because how many square feet to really need and the surface the issue surfaces in education as well that class of 2020 didn't get to walk and there's already squawking about the fall semester. is this going to end up full boat tuitions for what amounts to a correspondence course interviewed by w.p.r.o. radio here university of rhode island president david dooley address that concern he said it's going to be a really lousy job market with unemployment where it is right now it's going to be extremely hard to find any kind of fulfilling position for you so why not come back to college and prepare for your future or continue to prepare for your future david when we've had you on before we spoke at some length about non 4 year college career opportunities and there are many and by the way if you missed that

segment you can find it where you will find all our shows on demand at you tube dot com slash the big picture our t. david crystal ball it for us how will what we are going through right now change employment opportunities in the new normal. yes so in the next year that the big challenge for anybody that's coming into the job market or that's got thrown into the job market is that we've gone from a talent symbol to a talent ocean you've got so many people out there that are going to be looking for work where you know 12 weeks ago we were at 3.5 percent unemployment and you couldn't find anybody in a 3.5 percent unemployment one world those bars drop very low you only see 4 or 5 requirements for somebody to essentially apply for a job and be qualified for that position when you get to unemployment the levels of

which we are looking at right now in the 20 plus percent range those lists to balloon to $25.00 or 30 different things on that requirements list so you're going to see companies are going to be able to be very selective in very picky in the near term as this eases up and hopefully that sooner rather than later i think that trend is going to continue as companies have determined that that formal education is not nearly as important as taking someone looking at their core skills and harnessing those core skills and by that i mean find people who are good communicators who work well with the team versus who have 5 years of this 2 years of that and that very expensive 4 year degree any a category is or a specific occupations you see as newly opportune. you know if you're everybody's now focused so much on those essential businesses and those areas that are continuing to serve the public during this period of time certainly anything related to medical and pharmaceutical in particular is going to continue to thrive

if not more so because the concern now is are we dealing with something that is a once in a lifetime of that where is this the kind of life that we're going to be living in for the foreseeable future in terms of these new diseases these new viruses and the need to go ahead and create solutions for them in the form of treatment in the form of vaccine so i think anything around pharmaceutical anything around testing those are areas that are going to absolutely thrive not that they weren't doing well in their own right before but exponential increases in their performance in the coming years for sure. better off and aspiring to be a sushi chef mention we are neighbors and your governor lamont and our governor rimando are coping during this phased reopening and the companies are coping with the inconsistency of rules that don't cross state lines what's kosher in my state might be taboo in yours i'd guess that many maybe most of your clients

don't just sell in-state how are your clients coping with this agonizingly gradual reopening process. you know i think now you know 4 or 5 weeks ago there was much greater sense of urgency to try and get back into the office and now as people start to understand a little bit more about what that's going to look like and about how reluctant their employees are to go from those businesses who continue to operate on a remote basis they're doing so in fact connecticut issued in the past couple of weeks guidance on what you need to do to reopen and the 1st paragraph in the guidance said if you can continue to operate as a business remotely please do so they know as well as we do that it's just not safe to be able to do this or at least not safe enough that you're going to avoid somebody contracting in some way shape or form this virus so you know there's dynamics associated with the return the cross state thing the best thing that i've

seen happen is that you have 7 states are brought island in connecticut included who linked arms and said we're going to do this together we're going to make sure because we're a region where people constantly cross state lines we're going to make sure that we try to coordinate this now they're not off to the best start because rhode island didn't want to open up their salons and barbershops a couple weeks ago and told the governor of connecticut and now suddenly he pulled back on his day making a lot of people aren't happy here with that said i think overall that coordinated exercise is going to go a long way toward towards making it safer and making it easier for us to get back to our. you know my hair was shorter this in college david lewis operations and thanks always for your time i know you're a busy guy so i appreciate it good to talk to. my pleasure allen take care. you bet coming up have ya memorized netflix lately are the walls closing in on you is

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a psycho therapist in private practice in florida mark welcome back. nice to see you. i had a tele medicine call with my doc a few days ago and my dentist face time me and his hair was even longer than mine i imagine that if you are still interacting with your patients you're doing the same thing how's that going. 1st of all your hair looks great i'm just saying. yes. my practice which is historically been in person i'm going to say upwards of 90 to 95 percent have been zoomed face time google hangout you name it every once in a while there are there is someone who comes into the office but for the most part you know after 8 hours your eyes kind of go a little crossed doing this zoom all. the last time you when i spoke mark was the very last show that i did from the broadcast center in america and

washington before they set us all home how since then have the folks that you counsel adapted what's the mode. ok so you see 2 kind of very clear trajectories of what happens you know it's people either kind of spin out of control you see them getting more alarmed more anxious more and more depressed some of their coping mechanisms begin to break down and then you see the other kind of group of people which you know we recalibrate in re prioritizing kind of settle in for the long haul the people who are reprivatize tend to do better but the longer this pandemic goes on the people who have kind of begun to escalate there's nowhere else for them to go so you see the cracks begin to show. yeah i'm not surprised and while we have you here let's hit on you for some free advice

will all slide on to the virtual couch give us some tips for making the most of this stay at home time. so there's a number of things one is just normalize the process right in our last conversation i think i said you know keep calm and wash your hands that still applies today the idea is that this is something larger than us you know we human beings like the ability to control our lives and in this moment in time there is a very clear lack of control and so you look at the things that you can control your schedule try to wake up at a normal time try to work out you know i would say get up work out you go to your bedroom to go to work you know makes make sure you do a lunch break eat well you know these kind of very you know specific kind of most.

low cost $10.00 coping techniques tend to work because it's a day to day piece it's a one day at a time composed. you do a lot of work with the children what is the best way to tell kids why we're quarantining and why we're walking around with face masks without freaking i'm out . yes so i see i have a lot of parents that come in and i see kids as young as 5 to 6 years of age off way through teaching college and it's that old saying think globally act locally 'd these kids develop in mind for children is not fully formed you know for girls it's a little. bit of a little quicker 1920 boys they don't really get the full development 2425 and so trying to have them watch the news or talk about the economic impact of the

political impact or the you know or any of the larger pieces tends to be like charlie brown's teacher while. the way that you can speak to them is very specific so you're walking into the grocery store your child doesn't want to put on a mask you have a very kind of simple conversation with them around. they know like a school teacher or their grandparents like we're putting this mask on so we protect grandma and that's as much as they need to narrow at any given moment you don't have to go into all of the you know the layers of the medical risks around not wearing a mask you give them something tangible you're going to want to or why they're going to be like they're making a difference and. you know you just paraphrased a great line that governor jay inslee from washington said a while back when a reporter asked what will be the penalties for things like going to see your

grandfather in the nursing home and he said your grandpa could die and that's a little dire to tell little kids would you advise parents to have children young children of void watching the news watch the news with you and talking about it where on the spectrum do you come down on that. well not only for kids but i recommend taking new sabbaticals you know when we get caught up in your stand at home it's easy to eat the t.v. on 247 and we get wrapped up around the inside of the music playing in the background and the repetitiveness of the stories coming out and so yes keep the kids away from the t.v. for the most part there's been a number of different networks that are done like coronavirus news for children that's ok but don't have much too much and really focus on the parts with them with the song accentuate that if you have anything negative like focus on the good that

they can do not you know if you don't wear a mask agreement's going to die but this is going to really help keep your grandma safe and happy and healthy so we can see or next summer on our trip up you know wherever we're going to pick the picture up with them. yeah glass half full a lot of what i'm seeing on facebook may be misleading but i'm seeing little kids dressing up and i'm seeing zip down the zip line that dads set up in the backyard and some of the other creative ways that parents are occupying kiddo's times actually as we may all be shouldn't we strive to make this a time we're going to remember fondly. yes that's what i love about seeing some of those stories you know the these parents have become so creative in their trying to create memories you know that we all know what the of the story here is and it's not great and the kids although they're going to grow up and look back on this in

retrospect and understand it right now they dumped and so what we can give them are errors many positive memories experiences in our actions that we can get them so we kind of we kind of build up the cache of experiences so it isn't all in a. yeah hey we are more sobered them surprised to hear that domestic violence calls are op while were quarantined to talk about triggers how to avoid them and what to do when things become untenable at home. yeah it's interesting that you brought that up you know they actually come out with a new term it's called interpersonal violence and they're extracting the domestic component from it because of so many of the upticks anger and aggression what we know about anxiety is that it's a fear based mechanism and fear is a vulnerable emotion have so many people kind of manifests the fear or anxiety that

they're feeling in this kind of angry or aggressive be a so whether it's you know a spouse a spouse whether it's a parent to a child whether it's neighbors you know or people the grocery store you see fights breaking out you know all all of this kind of bad negative interaction is understandable but it isn't helpful and so the idea behind that is to you know kind of more 'd of your anxiety by to live things that make you feel better and move attempt to be kind and honest catches that on the inside of your forehead that gets you through a majority of the situations in this problem time. yeah we are social animals who have been d. private of socializing churches are closed the faithful are unable to worship the president at these arena rallies he's been doing my beloved baseball should be 2 months into the season by now and we keep anticipating this phased reopening

but it will be different baseball is probably just going to be a t.v. show with nobody in the stands after $911.00 we seem to have adapted understandingly to the new normal can you see that happening again when all of this is behind us with new normal rules you know we're social creatures by nature and so i think that it is always going to be somewhat of a struggle but you know human beings are resilient we are darwinian by nature we seek to survive you know and so at some point we will settle into something that feels ok enough it may never feel normal and they never feel as far as you know this is the entirety of the situation but there are but there is i think going to be a new stride that kind of collective consciousness that we take on it will begin to

look different that is a really cool montra i'm going to steal that from me i think it's healthy while we are in such a typical times to feel ok enough mark rutherford i always appreciate having you i know you're a busy guy and you're always welcome on the show thank you for stepping again into the big picture. thank you and i think you should keep it here. i have no choice and thank you for watching the big picture if you see us somewhere else and it's easier for you all right t america is live at youtube dot com slash r t america we are also live on direct t.v. channel 321 on the supercool pluto t.v. we are channel 279 and if you have the dish dish we're channel 280 there and if you haven't yet stop what you're doing and download our super cool portable

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