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we choose to look for common ground. but. this is the one business show you can't afford to miss. in washington coming up protests and heavy police continue across the country we'll talk to state lawmakers about the inequalities leading up to this moment and bite and scratch and a global pandemic. in the green room with those pretty i will join us to break it down we have a hot show today so let's go and dive right in. we start off here in washington d.c. at the city join the dozens of cities with mass demonstrations that are connected to the killing of george floyd last week the nation's capital is once again facing
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a curfew ahead of more expected protests artie's jacket outside the white house with the story fair and what do you see today. so sarah when we were here monday a lot of protesters here talking about racial inequality today it's a little bit of a different theme we're seeing more talks about the economy and big talks about religion all because of a controversial photo op the president had yesterday right here at st john's church actually in front of that sign you're seeing right there behind me now actually today there were 10 foot fence barriers actually installed yesterday 1st last night in front of lafayette park which is directly in front of the white house there is actually the barricade keep shifting back and back and back farther and farther back sarah now today what's going on actually is that you know we had crowds young and old black and white all saying that they want to peaceful protest not as much as that we saw yesterday but again it's this big photo op that trump did in front of this 200 year old st john's church near the white house the day after it was set on fire by protesters just before his big photo op actually spoke in the rose
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garden condemning of the rioting in the looting in the cities across the country that have seen. and he's been threatening that he would actually deploy the u.s. military to major cities if he didn't stop now overnight protesters they took to the streets in washington with all things dying down around 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning stores of businesses they were broken into when you start roughly the same amount of violence that you saw on sunday night except now you have more and more businesses boarding up their windows it's almost looking like the town is getting ready to prepare for a hurricane now earlier today donald trump and the 1st lady visited the national shrine in washington d.c. where they laid a ceremonial rees to mark the 100th anniversary of st john paul 2 birthday now the president 1st lady then went back to the white house where he signed an executive order to advance international religious freedom and that's the big thing here today you also had arlington county pulling out their their officers saying that they were not going to be a part of the movement of what happened yesterday where they said that you know d.c.
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police and the national guard along with secret service gas can tear gas canisters and flash bangs at the protesters to get them out of the way so trump could come here and take a picture so today you had leaders from all religious faiths here you had catholic priests going through the protesters you know spraying holy water on them you had the moms of rabbis all praying together here in front of the church to show that you know they say religion is quote not a prop in defiance of president and his picture taken here yesterday so again sarah a lot of protesters here though still talking about the economy how jobs are gone but they're out here trying to make their voices heard so it's only a matter of time before that curfew had signed at 7 pm and it will last until 6 am so hopefully these protests will remain peaceful but as we've seen in the past couple of nights they tend to turn violent sarah senate back to you party correspondent there and fronsac please stay safe in the queue for that report. a similar situation in new york city where riot police squared off with protesters
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throughout the night and now the city is looking at an 8 pm curfew throughout the week artie's at trinity charges reports. today in new york city bracing for more unrest or you are what started off as peaceful protests earlier in the day quickly taking a turn for the worst widespread looting and vandalism taking over the city monday night officers making at least 700 arrests chaotic scenes erupting outside of the iconic radio city music hall demonstrators trying to dandle eyes the landmark as others broke into the iconic macy's store on 34th street brooklyn a few lammy luxury stores like chanel and rolex in manhattan's trendy soho neighborhood ransacked mobs of people rampaging down sidewalks starting fires and breaking windows to steal merchandise people doing this so next time before you think about trying to kill another black person and we don't want them out here
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doing it again they gained a david than any other town a job easy a job easier now new york governor andrew cuomo calling the night a disgrace the n.y.p.d. and the mayor did not do their job last night i believe. second you have 38001 repeat the. people it is the largest police department in the united states of america. use 30000 people and protect property throughout the night clashes between demonstrators and police are growing brutally violent including the moment one n.y.p.d. officer was viciously run over on a cross walk the officer motionless before being picked up by a policemen the officer now in serious condition and this video capturing the moment an n.y.p.d. officer was attacked from behind another officer then drew
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a gun pointing it at protesters the incident just one of the 6 that are being investigated by the department's internal affairs division i don't care if they're left right or center i am sick of people attacking the city of new york this as an independent investigation is underway into police misconduct after this video emerged showing 2 police cruisers drive into protesters who were pushing barricades against one of the cars and belting objects out police the incident just one of many that continues to fuel the debate about police tactics in new york and across the country reporting in new york trinity chavez party. for more we're joined by georgia state lawmaker erika thomas and former georgia state lawmaker dee hawkins hagler. thank you so much for joining me today d. a lot of unrest it doesn't look like it's going anywhere let's start with you many companies are coming out with the white text on a black background showing support for this racial inequality amazon was one of them they tweeted out the following on sunday they may say they stand in solidarity
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with the black community but the e-commerce giant has 0 black executives they also have a secret deal with more than $400.00 police departments there with home security brand ring that essentially allows law enforcement officials to access a portal asking owners to provide footage that's relevant to a criminal investigation not to mention they did fire an african-american last month a warehouse worker who reported health concerns over the chrono virus is about a bit hypocritical. thank you for having us today so yes i think the amazon has to rise to the occasion they not only have to talk the talk with they have to walk the walk it is very disingenuous to say that you are in the fight against racial oppression or suppression or equality and then you only have very minimal people in the leadership in your company but amazon however they have none of them really senior management so they have to do a better job with that so amazon i see even though they did put out
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a statement which is more than most companies do they still have a lot of work to do especially when african-americans use amazon and presumes levels because i'm one of those people who sit at home as used amazon specially doing coke with my team because i didn't have anything else to do but to shop and although i think i think amazon has to do a better job with their well and they definitely need to come forward and raise their standards with salute lee erica prior to the pandemic minority communities that were doing better economically this was compared to previous years but they were still struggling to see the significant gains in the household income savings and even credit worthiness there's they've been more likely to hold many office or many of the public facing jobs as well that are on hold now due to the coronavirus well the current pandemic in this political climate is it just going to further illustrate this current divide that we're seeing or world will we see some sort of shift where public facing workers begin to to seek other forms of remote work.
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you're so right about those numbers and of course the african-americans are experiencing larger numbers that are at risk higher jobs that are at risk to this pandemic and i don't think that as of right now or in the near future that we're seeing any of those numbers start to go down i mean look at what is going on in the last couple of days we went from a pandemic to pandemonium and it has shallow shined a light that 40 percent of african-americans are less. likely to own a home you know even in our in where we live now in atlanta the average household income for a white american is over 84000 and the average household income for an african american is $26000.00 and so we have to make sure that with these protesters and with us standing out and letting our voices be heard that we are screaming these numbers from the right rooftops and people need to get upset and angry so that we can change this because in till we change structural inequality there will still be
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riots for years to come and i believe this is a an issue the both sides both the black community and the white community and you know a lot of other communities are part of that see this this criminal justice reform a much needed erica we're all in this together has become a popular slogan during the pandemic however we can all say we're on different boats here we're all experiencing this very differently a new report by the economic policy institute on race ethnicity and the economy showed the black community like you said experiences some of the highest rates of unemployment yet they also make up most of these frontline workers that consists of one in 6 this is a pretty complex issue we're looking at here but how did we get to this point and what should happen moving forward. well just like you said we are the ones that are on the front lines and with that being said we are there pay needs to shell bed it needs to reflect that these african-americans are on the front lines and maybe that
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would help with some of these inequalities i mean if they're going to risk their lives to make sure that they are grocery store workers that they're firefighters that there are people that are making sure that we get what we need for this pandemic then we need to show that and how do we show that by paying them what they deserve and some other reason why so many of them are are getting sick now the black unemployment rate was 5.8 percent in february that's near a 50 year low but it's still higher than the white unemployment rate it's. it's now after the pandemic at 16.7 percent this is compared to the white unemployment rate at 14.2 percent what needs to change here well many things need to change 1st of all let's go back one step one step back the reason why many african-americans take service related jobs is because they have not been afforded the same opportunities as many. as it relates to education and funding for school and so that almost often towns put african-americans in positions where the only job they have
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to take of those in the service industry then let's look at unemployment many african-americans don't have the luxury of working for jobs when they're able to work from home i mean that's a disparity even in that in itself because many of the people who have the education who are the have the where with all of the connections they're able to work from home because of the type of jobs that they have and so that only leaves those who are service workers. on the front line to be able to get covered nights or to be able have to go we are lose your job because the type of job that you have does not afford you the opportunity to work from home but there is so much that we have to talk about every garst racial disparities the income disparity that just look at it from the beginning of time many black people from the time they were brought to this country work for free you have free slave labor and we have never leveled the playing field and so when you want somebody to start off from not even ground 0 but negative 20 negative 30 it is very hard to overcome but it takes generation after generation numerous generations to try to over. to overcome that
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disparity and we have we're nowhere close with the policies that we currently have here in the united states of america it's been decades of seeing the same thing over and over again i do want to get one more question eric i want to show you some figures here you mentioned the some of the wages and the wage gap now black families and liquid assets have much more much less than the white families and $20000.00 median household income for white households 70 percent higher than for black households look at those not. 70642 versus 41062 what are some of the biggest causes of this divide we have about a minute left. again just like the honorable the doc is he said we are start starting from the ground negative 0 in so with that being said we have to holster ourselves just to even be able to get some of these jobs some of these higher c.e.o. jobs in the senior management jobs and so i would definitely say is that is start even from the education in these black communities that is being given to us and so
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we have to make sure that our education system in the black communities is just as well as when you turn on the other side of the town in these white communities and that's where it starts if we have the best of the best in education then we we can we can go to the next a mic and make sure that we have the best jobs but it starts from the education level absolutely the education level the resources that are provided to both. black communities as well so hopefully we see some change it's taken too long and not not enough change has happened or changes happened we're looking for that change and hopefully these these peaceful protests can call for that hawkins hagler and erika thomas thank you so much for making time for us today thank you for having us here . time now for a quick break but stay here because when we return investors often buy a gold for safe keeping during times of recession and on the rest but we'll tell you why so many people may now be turning to solve or as we go to break here the
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saying. we dare to ask. the past few months have proven to be unpredictable well we've seen record volatility in the markets thanks to the pandemic and an unemployment rate of 14.7 percent and now out in mass demonstrations and wall street is still gaining back from march lows well joining me now to co-host christy i christie despite the un roster across america in every major city the equities market is up once again well this is very different than how the hong kong market behaved during their protests what's going on in the market. well thought her flat as a reopening bounces kind of losing steam and there is again that rotation that we've been seeing as loggers are coming back into line so that we might have
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largely ignored the unrest and said the focus is on the progress of the economic reopening so you have names like the airlines retailers and cruise lines getting bid up and i don't want to sound heartless but the market is blind to social justice because the bottom line of these publicly traded companies is not being affected most of the companies that are being looted most of the businesses that are being destroyed and damaged they are mom and pop shops not the publicly traded names so therefore the equities market is completely blind to all the rest fell at the end of the day investors are simply trying to make money so once again they're crowding into the stay at home economy and consumer staples names but right now the problem is that the divergence between stock market and economy these past couple months have gone too exuberant investors are still too overly optimistic that corporate earnings and profits will catch up and rebound and will recover once a lock down to lift it but historically that has never been the case so now policymakers are putting negative interest rates back on the table as a potential option in order to get the american economy back to health that's right
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a lot of small businesses have already been struggling because of the pandemic and now because of these these protests christine you asked them it's have been really saying that the coronavirus pandemic could cost the economy of $2.00 trillion dollars over the next 10 years what is this based off of. though this is a new estimate that through fiscal 2030 the kernel guys pandemic will reduce the real economic output by 3 percent from initial estimates so that would mean quite to almost a trillion over the next decade and this is issued by the congressional budget office and they base this figure on estimates from business closures unemployment energy demand and travel restriction so nominal g.d.p. is expected to be 15.7 trillion or 5.3 percent less than original forecast and right now despite the $2.00 trillion dollar care act already implemented congress is now debate. another package that could reach up to 3 trillion dollars so this 3 trillion dollars package is meant to supplement and renew several of the federal
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programs are set to expire including a temporary boost to unemployment benefits that will lapse by the end of july so analysts estimate that the 2nd quarter is still likely to see the big g.d.p. drop in u.s. history while unemployment for may is expected me near 20 percent which is the highest since the great depression when as more commies are reopening as well that could also be in effect we have a minute left a quick question as tensions continue between the u.s. and china under threats of decoupling what is china doing to prepare for this. so china has actually unveiled a package a special policy for hina and which includes scrapping import duties in an effort to turn this island into a free trade port in order to replace hong kong so this would dampen the risk of a decoupling with the u.s. this planet will also lower the income tax rate for selected individuals and companies to 15 percent which is the same as hong kong and relaxing these are requirements for tourists and business travelers imported goods will be terror free and that includes manufacturing equipment vehicles ships planes raw materials and consumer goods so this project to make an end to
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a regional trade shopping and shipping center has been in the works for some time now so it's no surprise but the blueprint of it has finally been released as a threat decoupling grows and the u.s. said last week that it plans to strip hong kong of its special trade status last week so even though it has all these new incentives and policies that are made to kind of mall into a hong kong 2.0 it's still going to remain a big challenge as currently main economic driver is providing basically winter homes for mainlanders looking to extend the cold it's gross g.d.p. was only 530000000000 last year which is point 5 percent of the national toll so it's going to take some time before you can grow into another trait court such as hong kong or singapore on and u.s. and china have been at odds for a while now hopefully this doesn't lead to something else a bigger than the trade war that we've been seeing with co-host. i thank you for the analysis. thank you. it's been a tough couple of days for gold and silver prices in global markets gold prices
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have fallen for the 3rd time in 4 days while losses in gold were capped due to china u.s. tensions as we just spoke to kristie protests in the united states and a weaker dollar spot gold was down 0 point one percent 1738 dollars and 12 cents per ounce platinum was a point 3 percent to 8 $150.10 and silver fell point 5 percent to $18.17 well joining me now to discuss them both co-host and investigative journalist ben swan and peter schiff c.e.o. of euro pacific capital. banner peter i'm sorry let's start with you let me ask you how much of the slowing of this gold and silver prices is due to the easing of the coronavirus restrictions and not just in the united states but globally. well i don't think it really relates that at all i think what we have had is a rally in global stock markets we've also seen a bit of a sell off in the dollar and some of the other safe haven currencies like the
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japanese yen and the swiss franc and i think that the gold got caught up in that a little bit as well as enthusiasm for the u.s. stock market but remember the only reason the u.s. stock market is going up is because of the fed we have bad economic news now we have the riots the looting which is making a bad economy worse and so the worse the economy gets the more money the federal reserve prints and so the more stocks investors want to buy but when the fed is creating inflation you're better off buying gold in the s. and p. $500.00 and we're looking at a possibility of some hyper inflation here with that speaking of the federal reserve ben there's talk that the fed is going to go to negative interest rates if that happens what kind of effect might it have on these prices for gold. well i think of that happens and we're going to see it be very good for gold because you know gold there are some analysts who are looking at it saying that if that happens gold could actually hit an all time high simply because of the fact that negative interest rates would have that effect on safe haven assets but again i think what
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peter saying is very true there's a whole series of issues they deal with the federal reserve and how the federal reserve has been conducting itself over the past few weeks and months and really years but especially during coronavirus i think what we're going to see is that the more moves the fed makes the better it is for any kind of safe haven asset because the fed continually demonstrates that it is erratic in its behavior it's not based in any kind of sound fiscal policy it's not based in anything that deals with the future and what future economies will look like it's all kneejerk reactions to prop up an economy that is almost on life support these metals seem to be a pretty safe haven but staying with ben silver is in a different space and gold because it is an industrial model and there are analysts who are predicting that silver is poised to go through the roof why is that. well because of exactly what you just said so silver is different from gold in that it is an industrial metal and it is used for industrial purposes so right now while silver is certainly cheaper than gold as we watch the economies around the world
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start back up again there are a lot of analysts who believe that they will see a huge push into silver from a lot of folks simply because there are actual you know functions for it in the industrial sector as opposed to gold where gold is more of the store of value precious metals so it's very possible we'll see silver rise to maybe even all time highs on its own as a result of this peter what do you think do you see silver heading over the next few months where do you see it heading. i think silver is certainly bottomed out not only in dollar terms but in terms of gold you know silver recently hit all time record lows and priced in gold you could buy $120.00 ounces of silver for one ounce of gold that had never happened before i think in the history of. mankind or at least since we've been keeping records right now that ratio is about 95 to one but that still means you get a lot of silver for one ounce of gold and i agree with ben i think the silver price is going to go much higher could take a little while before it hits
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a record high i remember in 2011 it got up to $50.00 an ounce so we need to triple approximately to get up there now but i think that is going to happen it is going to be a general commodity bull market that's going to include a lot of commodities and the precious metals when we really start to see the consequences of all the inflation that the federal reserve is not only created in the past that is creating now but even more inflation that is going to create the future that is going to matter fest this solves a sharply lower dollar against other feet currencies that's going to really drive the demand for safe havens like gold and silver and we're also going to see big increases in consumer prices whether we've seen negative nominal interest rates it's still a coin toss but we already have negative real interest rates and that's going to get bigger and bigger because the rate of inflation is going to keep going up yet the fed is going to be stuck in 0 because if they raise rates to fight inflation they collapse the bubble economy right and there could be a threat to a shortage of all of this now we're seeing right now is peter schiff on euro
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pacific capital and the west coast investigative journalist bent on thanks so much . as just offer this time that you can catch us on you tube dot com specialist r.c.c. and. yours . yours. according to several sources police in the united states killed 2 to 4 people. and. one of my being arrested for. this is their little world that they developed just us against them it's. a long history of 2025. of the shoot someone.
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there is a. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in alaska where is that to say come on i'll show you what's the reason for any type of enhanced u.s. military presence in this area russia. what is it suddenly about the south china sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says
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no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have nuclear weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so that's why we're going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly it's time to do news again. i know team no crowd. no shots. patches belts i. mean a well strap no place to. which your thirst for action. going to.
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well coming up here is from around the world live from central london this is our 2 u.k. . protesters descend on london's hyde park in support of demonstrations in the united states against police brutality with many highlighting similar problems in the u.k. we hear from the social campaign of. a group of nurses also protest outside the headquarters of public health england in london angry at the government's response to the coronavirus. the leader of the opposition highlights fading public trust in the government as a poll shows people are less likely to follow the law down on the plane most of the top advisors drive to a 2nd home that's as the home secretary defends the 2 week or an international travel as. the british government's plan to bring every primary school pupil in
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england back to the classroom for at least a month before the summer break his prime did out something workable i'll be joined by teaching union leader. thousands of people have got that in london's hyde park to support american protests over the death of black man george floyd at the hands of a white policeman it follows a similar demonstration in london on sunday but also calls into question how law enforcement in the u.k. treats minorities well i'll take a shot it was dusty joins me now from hyde park. another shabbiest i want to be going on. but i'm here in the heart of central one to meet hyde park and i'm joined by thousands of protesters all here in solidarity with george droid of course the black man that died at the hands of the police in police custody whereby
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a peace officer knelt on his neck put over 8 minutes resulting in his death now hearing. was not. that was the cool piece of fiction great to stay away london is here making comparisons with what's happened over in the united states saying that here in the u.k. we are also witnessing police brutality of course in recent years we've seen many an incident from short break all the way to mark duggan and here in london they're saying the similarities are not play especially considering statistics are saying that black people are 4 times more likely to experience excessive happy circles by the metropolitan police we've also seen the other suckering statistics that just came out today from the national police chiefs council so show me any people will say just fine when it comes to breaking down the measure so breaking that down the enemy people make up 15 percent of the
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a population they receive 22 percent of the fines that's $26.00 out of 800000 in comparison to just 74 white people for roles then be any people 50 percent more likely to be fined than the rest of the population now speaking all those statistics the police chief chief counsel is saying at least that is all those fear quite interesting and i need to be interpreted a great teacher. can feel there are a number of complexities and interpret sing the day so all of this is see including the number of fixed penalty notice is given where in us necessity has not been recorded therefore we are further analyzing the data so we can publish the most accurate picture without this analysis we are not confident that meaningful conclusions can be drawn on ethnic proportionality. it must be said that the national police chief counsel has said that this incident regarding george lloyd
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was absolutely horrible they said they were horrified on the polls and they do believe that accountability and justice should now follow not the words somehow being chanted here at this demonstration i call fried has since become the slogan of the backlots not this movement well why. are you going to think i was out just a few weeks ago 6 weeks ago and incident how can i apply to person in london was pinned down by officers and he said i can't breathe meanwhile 6 metropolitan police officers surrounding him so london is hit today have various messages all the way from solidarity with george floyd but also why did they say of an age old captain of long piece finding a gangsta black people resulting in deaths in the most of it experiences of course we all in the global. economy have said raffles protest is this really is absolutely essential because it is simply too great to say.
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thank you very much. well campaign a patrick vernon told me george ford's death has resonated in the u.k. because of the shared cultural history with the u.s. . often there is no reason why people protest in the u.k. there has always been a long history of connections with america you know for so when the has been a prize ins in america this boy has been some learn demonstrations always often very peaceful ones so at times will happen and the sixty's joined kind of so rights movements or something in the seventy's and eighty's and then move more recently specially a few years ago would last matter so that's the 1st thing of the 2nd thing the murder of george floyd is quite symbolic it highlights start this was an african-american man on the lockdown trying to make a living chance of vive and yet the police decided to use the full whites
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for their law which led to his death you know of over a $25.00 count football and that is you know which kind of values do bloodlines really matter and i think the 1st thing in the u.k. context is the history of discrimination struct racism has always been there i often you need something like something like for america to remind us of the conditions of society in britain to clip the black experience and not ever that experience and it was quite clear with covered 19 with the dispassionate lack of engagement by the government with a mystic amount of communities it shows a lack of this regard to our life too especially the high numbers of people have died to cope with 19 does that actually patrick i mean are you concerned that this process we've seen the numbers or thousands of people say it seems well spread coronavirus and therefore is risking people's lives sometimes the very minorities
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who are disproportionately affected and other innocent people who might come into contact with. the issue and mostly i mean it's best for anyone who wants to protest . and this could be more demonstrations taking place in the u.k. . to do credit to social distancing a friend but still very important we should not forget that but at the same time people do have the right to. uncover stretching through a peaceful process regarding the conditions that we are experiencing. and in the next hour i'll be hearing the views of activist and filmmaker george. now a group of n.h.s. nurses also gathered in the capital to protest against the u.k. government's handling of the coronavirus response the health care workers gathered outside the headquarters of public health england they drew attention to a number of issues including the lack of personal protective equipment low wages and racial discrimination the nurses also expressed disappointment in the government's recent easing of the lockdown on told us that health care workers need
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better support from the office or it. i'm afraid testing here because i won every night to feel safe to have the appropriate equipment for them to be able to do their job in the best way possible with protecting patients and themselves the government has reacted very slowly in terms of the needs require it for you know for certain not just even in the main hospital but nursing homes i mean the community i think they could do much more specifically full careful. i think they always have been grossly neglected and the government needs to look into that what's going on there what's in the fire we still have to give in to these people i feel that relaxing the measures right now isn't safe it puts many people at risk and i feel that all their intentions rather than public safety is being. nurses and
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the health care workers are grossly underpaid we have had no. real wage increases for a long time the government needs to do much more with protecting brain but that's. maybe our boards that are overcrowded and i think the public needs to know that it's a lot of brain work because we were put into the care boards where they have ratios of 10 patients to one and so we are overworked the patients unlooked cared for sufficiently as they should be. the leader of the u.k. opposition kist amr has highlighted a drop in public trust in the government it comes as a poll shows people are less likely to fall in lockdown measures after the prime minister's top and fires that drive to a 2nd home while quarantine measures on new arrivals were announced by the secretary well to u.k. sara lee joins me now with more on all of this that 1st of only so let's start with
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that public trust in the government is taking a bit of a hit hasn't it yeah absolutely we've see of course the news emerging in the last few weeks of that trip made by dominic cummings to. 260 miles from london and does a result of that trip there's been somewhat of a media outcry in the public outcry really as to his behavior and also perhaps the lack of any action on the parts of the prime minister to punish mr cummings for doing so and today we saw the leader of the opposition kiss stahmann going head to head with the prime minister for the 1st time since that news emerged and this is tom accusing mr johnson of leading a government which is suffering from the crisis in public trust easing restrictions involves very difficult judgment calls so this is the week of all weeks where public trust and confidence in the government needed to be at its highest. but as
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the director of the religious institute was commissioned to you gov poll this week and said i have never in 10 years of research seen a drop in trust like we've seen for the u.k. government how worried is the prime minister i'm surprised you should take that this is because since i took it i took the trouble i took the trouble to ring him up and we have a long conversation in which i briefed the right of the gentleman about all of the steps that we would take he didn't offer any any dissent. now mr cummings breach of the locked and the fact that no action was taken hasn't done the government any favors since that story broke 21 percent of brits say that they've been following the rules less strictly done before and of the 21 percent 32 percent mention mr cummings is breach of the rules as a reason so many concluding and taking the decision to flout the rules or at least
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not to keep the mystic the because presumably they say that if mr cummings who is of course a very senior government advisor doesn't stick to them and well why should the public did it and in the meantime what about these those quarantine measures the home secretary well we've seen the government announcing the bringing in of these quarantine measures that will see visitors or those arriving in the united kingdom from abroad told to self isolate for 14 days so-called quarantine rules now while they will be handing in the details at the airports that they learned that and will be subject to spot checks but pretty good sell the home secretary she's the one who's been leading this charge to bring in these rules and she was in parliament today explaining those in a little bit more detail. from 1st of generator 23rd of march when the lockdown was imposed only 273 people were formally quarantined from full flights 3 from move one from tokyo when over 18000000 people entered the country by air but
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the home secretary just said in her statement this was because domestic transmission was widespread but this is what the government chief scientific advisor said and i quote a lot of the cases in the u.k. didn't come from china and didn't come from the places you might have expected they actually came from european imports on the high level of travel into the u.k. around that time throughout the outbreak we have brought in the right measures at the right time based on scientific advice that is dated back to january as far back as january throughout that period going into march as well and during that contained phase the government had at the borders in particular and enhanced monetary policy and approach to identify symptomatic trappers from high risk areas . was supposed to be about chords the rules i discussed yesterday but
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i have been objections by some even within the conservative party who say that the rules are on work well and as we just saw from that number in the labor party concerns that this mark just be too little too late. he said thank you very much indeed. now let's look at the coronavirus figures from across the u.k.'s home nations according to individual helsel authorities that have been 215 further deaths across the u.k. since tuesday and h.s. england has reported 179 hospital deaths the scottish 1st minister has announced the 11 feet out across all settings while wells has reported 17 and northern ireland 8. now let's see how the pandemic stands globally according to johns hopkins university which collates worldwide data over 6400000 people have now been
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infected have been over 380000 deaths more than 2700000 recoveries. and still to come this hour. the u.k. government's plan to reopen all primary schools in england for a month before the summer holiday is branded as unworkable i'll be joined by a teaching union leader.
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and. welcome back the u.k. government plans to bring every primary school pupil in england back to the classrooms for at least a month before the start of the summer break but experts warn this would be impossible to achieve or on monday primary schools across england open their doors to children in reception and years one and 6 previously the government said all primary aged children will return to school before the summer break for a month if feasible but teaching experts say it will be logistically impossible as more space and teachers or be needed the education secretary gavin williamson has reassured parents and said the welfare of children and staff are considered i
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recognise there may continue to be some nervousness among families but i want to reassure parents and those working in schools and nurseries that the welfare of children stuff continues to be at the heart of all our considerations. well for more on the situation i'm now joined by the general secretary at the association of school and college leaders jeff barton yes thank you very much for joining us reopening all primary schools before the summer break could be challenging but it's not impossible is it. well it depends what you want to do in terms of reopening i mean it's worth remembering that actually since schools were closed down they also remained open fit for 2 groups they remained open for children of. key workers and also for those priority people's homes too since you got social workers who need to be in school the schools have done a pretty good job looking after those children then from yesterday we've seen the cautious reopening for some groups for the youngest georgian reception year one india 6 now that promise which was made by the prime minister for every child in
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primary to have a full month before summer holiday in reality that was never going to be possible in the way that he articulated it because the rule was the government has given all the children should be in class sizes no bigger than 15 and that's so that you don't get most of transmission now if you can keep children in small classes the only way you would be have to have all of those children in at the same time is if you doubled the number of teachers and you double the number of tantrums and clearly you know given the time we've got and the lack of money that was never going to be possible and i think this is an example of the government probably over promising to parents and now it's stepping back and being a little bit more realistic about it i think is it not possible to actually write take us in for the children so say for instance half the class will go to school for say monday and tuesday the other sort of wednesday thursday or something some other kind of rate assistance was a it's a really good point in the scientific experts who were advising the government strongly recommended roche has provided those roses were on the basis that your
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saying that is a day in or 2 days in and some days out or a whole week in the whole week out the trouble was that some of the government's own guidance ruled out the idea of roaches and again less oxygen do was to create an expert. tasia that we could have business as usual we will be able to have business as usual even from september it seems to me now it's what the government saying is we want to have every problem rich i want to have some experience back in their school for some time it might be a month but it's going to be hard to see how you do a month if you use roaches you can give every child some experience in school which means they can be reacquainted with the teacher who can assess what they are and plan what they need next that seems to be sensible and that's what the welsh government today has announced that its approach is going to be in the run up to the sum of all of that and also jeff couldn't we ate into some of the time that's always been designated for the summer holidays as well i mean appreciating that the teachers miss out on prep time but could be that the term that not be extended to allow for that right assistance well it's something that the secretary of state
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ruled out right at the beginning and i think she ruled out the idea of teachers doing that because what that then does is to create an incredibly long term running from august through until december that's the way the welsh government today has friends that is to say we will extend. additional week or at least 4 days then we'll have a shorter some a break and then what we'll do is to give a 2 week break during the autumn term of the group probably going to need some rest but so i think there were other ways that the english government from westminster could have done it and what they're now doing i think is starting to be a bit more pragmatic a bit more realistic about what we can genuinely deliver for those young people and did in talking of young children moving forward as well they're missing out on parts of the curriculum out there as well as mental social stimulation because the schools are remaining closed. yeah i mean it's the case that during the period when the school was being closed to the majority of young people there will be some who will have been following the law 'd be that houses like this one with books and conversation all the things that help the disadvantaged children without any of
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that may have been in a very very challenging circumstances and they need to be the priority to bring them back because with your child who's advantage or disadvantaged the most important place you're going to get your learning is from a teacher who can assess where you are and stop to plan and yesterday we started to see there's a limited scale of primary from the 15th of june in secondary for some children will start to see that gathering momentum also jeff i have to look at the economy as well that we parents can't stay at home forever can they they have to return to work. yes i mean when you talk about the economic arguments what some people think is well you're kind of saying this is are the the the economy is support all that education is important the reality is that the economy absolutely of the pins children's experience there will be some children living in families in abject poverty where the only way out of that for the family will be for them to go work and the only way out of the child is for them to get back into school so it seems to me those 2 things are absolutely joined up and we want to do what's best for the
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economy and for the child in education and i think is gordie where we're now heading into also there is the argument as well that children are perhaps less prone to the virus so perhaps are better off in school and also why does society as well. yet it certainly seems to be the case from what scientists are saying that children are less susceptible to it so even if they get the virus it has a bad effect on them and the way to pass it on to other children seems to be more straightforward less less problematic the big question of course has always been for teachers and other stuff what about how they pass it on to us and that's where we need to be cautious about it and we've been generally reassured by the science and reassured by one very important facts which is that people going to work at school are not of any greater risk than if they were to go and work in some other profession as a key worker and i think that was an important fact that we needed to hear to get rich short's to the people working in schools as well as to parents that this is now not totally safe because nothing is without risk but the risks are now being
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managed as we saw on wider accounting of all schools and intends as best as well i mean schools could always be closed again if there's another spike of that. i think it's not that they could be i think is that they will be a mini think what we will see we're releasing some local authorities sheffield would be a good example where they are concerned about the high public health risk in that sense their schools shouldn't be opening so we will see i think where there is a spike in infection rates some schools will be instructed they have to close and that's going to go on right into the autumn term because in the autumn you haven't got the sunshine which is burning the stuff off in the same way and the level of risk if anything could be higher what else could the government did he think if i mean that they implement more social distancing measures what practical means could they immediately implement. what i think you were looking across the broad perspective you can see children starting to come back into schools and teachers will do what teachers do which is assess the children teach that your i think we'll look back and think that we missed out on really doing what we can for
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disadvantaged children looking at families who haven't got access to the internet families who have suddenly felt cast adrift because they were able to access all the different resources available and i hope that what we will be able to do and the government started or a limited way is to get high quality equipment and resources into the hands of the most disadvantaged so that if those schools do have to close again those children won't feel that doubly disadvantaged because they can't access the kind of resources that the event his children can and so on a deaf we were looking at possible cures all ways that we could alter the the system the right us to allow for to take the disadvantaged children some ideas or come up with where extending the school hours and having crushes the teachers children they're having homework clubs and having some accounts as well or any of these ideas that a possible happy meet it. i think probably will mode of it that they're all good ideas the thing is what we don't want is to overcomplicate our schools with lots of different people rushing in like the cavalry with all kinds of different solutions
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the most important thing that i think is to be able to try and get the child to have the relationship with their teacher who knows them to assess them and stop teaching them and. in addition to that drew but the teacher at school eager to say actually you need some extra support our little guys the after school rather saturday morning or during the whole day so that joins up with what the child is learning in the classroom the more you can get took on a blended approach was more learning in the classroom after school during the holidays and at home the better it would be for every child whether they're 'd advantaged or disadvantaged just fun we'll leave it there many thanks for all those thoughts thank you. but campaigners have called on the u.k. government to launch an urgent review into all the time related fines issued by police this follows revelations that boris johnson's top advisor broke the guidance well back in april dominic cummings and his wife drove 260 miles to take their child to a 2nd home in the north of england at the time for lockdown measures were still in
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place across the u.k. durham police have since said it constituted a minor breach but campaigners have expressed anger at the fact many people were issued fixed penalty notice as the similar offenses when it entered the wells around 15000 files have been issued by police since the lockdown came into force. more news at the top of the hour see you again there.
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done afshin rattansi we're going underground is up to corona virus kills more than 100000 in the usa and leads to 40000000 unemployed uprisings are up across major nations in solidarity with george floyd killed by police in the usa which declares what appears to be all that federal marshal law coming up on the show they must lead the fight for those basic. which come from their fabric of their side those who make peaceful revolution up will make violent revolution inevitable how do john f. kennedy's would stand 58 years on in the streets of the cities including well sandra lee's new york and d.c. we talked to a protest organizer on the ground in minneapolis where police killed george floyd. and after revelations including of alleged bank of england left of gold from saturday's world it was of interview with venezuela's foreign minister we hear from
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someone who liked washington loves it and brussels wants to depose chappie star president because i'm a doro overseeing the largest known oil reserves in the world polish more coming up in the show but 1st as corona virus continues to ravage the poorest communities in both the u.s. and the u.k. many are continuing to define locked down to protest against what they see as the existential threat of institutional racism and police brutality after the murder of george floyd at the hands of police last week in minneapolis their protest has been met by a brutal crackdown using tear gas and rubber bullets not to mention the arrest of journalists joining me now via skype from minneapolis is one of the protest organizers robin on his way thank you so much robin for coming on so what have you witnessed in the past few days we've seen pictures from right across the united states of uprisings yeah just also. just the dynamic that's taken place on the ground there.

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