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20 years and that is you have this new cities trap and we see that with this growing tension between the united states and china and the fact that we outsource all our jobs to china and the 3 cities trap is the tension that arises when a rise in power is about to use or a decline in power so we do see that around the world but at the same time just as like nobody the power whoever is the power the alpha the super super imperial power they don't want to give up their power who wants to give up power right the same with on a generational scale we're seeing so you're seeing what is called the 4th turning and this was written about back in 1901 they predicted actually in this theory that in the year 2020 that would be the year where it all together and they didn't even warn of this other bigger 4th turning coming with the 3 cities trap but here we have the generations e. and the end of the millennial displacing boomers boomers don't want to give up
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their power and they certainly don't want to give up their 3rd element the exorbitant privilege member as the boomers who have more than any other generation really lived off that they exorbitant privilege of a total feel old based on the u.s. dollar so i think these are the 3 ingredients coming together you know this is our theory is like looking at these 3 theories together and perhaps this could explain right well you know so things go in cycles right things go in seasons were familiar with the seasons and then there are the cycles there as they can recall cycle as a 60 year cycle in economics there's the boom and bust cycle there's the 4th turning right so this is a book about cycles in american history that are roughly 70 years in length 80 years in length and that this 4th turning would be the beginning of a chaotic to mulch us period and it was foretold that in 2020 this would kick in so it was predicted and you know we on this show it in talk. about why in 2020 was
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beat cycle b. 10 to 12 years from 2008 because in 2008 there was the global financial crisis and the solution was not to reform the banking system to stop the crisis from repeating again the solution was here's a bigger credit line to the worst banks in america to do the same thing but much worse and we said we predicted within 10 to 12 years there would be a repeat of the 2008 crisis but much bigger in a much bigger scale so it's exactly what's happening now so whether it's the kaiser report banking crisis cycle the 4th turning the business cycle of the seasons you know cycles repeat as lenny bruce once said the famous comedian from the 1950 s. and sixty's the earth is round man. right so ok the 4th turning according to william strauss and neil how who wrote this book back in 1901
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when they were looking at these 80 year cycles that's 4 generations that started actually in 1000 in 2005 the 3rd turning ended in 2005 so i remember from 2005 was the beginning of this financial weight this crisis this nonstop crisis because that's when all that subprime mortgage fraud was happening and the packaging of that into fraudulent debts that were sold around the world that was the beginning of it so it always ends up in a huge explosive peak like in the one $940.00 s. we know world war 2 that was the end of a 4th turning so they were predicting from about 2020 to 2025 there would be this the explosive end of this but you know so i'm looking at all of these ingredients and these 2 things they say these trav and the 4th turning and the exorbitant privilege and and we saw that happen in 2020 when we saw this us when oil prices went negative that's the end of the petro dollar system so i want to look at what the mainstream media and how they're presenting the tom alter that is happening joe
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wiesenthal at bloomberg said still i think about the tweet i saw this weekend someone claiming and ironically that the reason people were protesting is cause the fed bought 900000 shares of the j. and k. e.t.f. these are the junk bond e.t.f. and he's doing and mocking the idea that the fed intervening in the markets and who holds these junk bond e.t.f. who is he bail out who is the fed bailing out that this exorbitant privilege that is not understood by the masses that there's a select group of people who could make bad mistakes you bought this junk it was about to go bust you got bailed out the people on the street there's still people who have not received their unemployment benefits 2 or 3 months later into this crisis so you have those bankers immediately bill that it's. bed money gets deposited in their bank account but a lot of people are still waiting for their bailout funds this is an example of
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gaslighting right so joe isn't all bloomberg you know he's their official gas lighter in chief right so he takes that obvious connection that the people are protesting because of the as an enormous fast billions and trillions of dollars and the role of the fed that plays in this transference of wealth and that injustice the injustice right and he's a nice trying to he's trying to claim that no you're the insane one right this is what the gaslight are does they try to claim that now what you're seeing your i don't believe your eyes don't believe your ears you know you're crazy right so that's his job educating he makes money as a gaslight are ok i get it but people should understand that what he's saying is patently false there is a connection i think it's also i think it's it's he could just be a marie antoinette like figure and he'd he's not like intentionally gasoline isn't taunting anybody he genuinely is part he's lived in manhattan he's from bloomberg
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multi-billionaire enterprise you know that he can only see what he you know all his friends marie antoinette's friends were nice and kind and they they were well meaning and had good manners and they spoke well they read well and they understood beauty and why you know let's just give these peasants brioche if they're so angry the area saying in terms of joe that maybe he is just genuinely misinformed on this topic but if you look at what he does over there at bloomberg is that every single time something comes up to challenge the status quo like bitcoin and i told joe isn't all the 5 bitcoin under $10.00 he started gaslighting immediately ok let's move back to this he said it is trapped in the 4th turning because this is the way bigger story here and and they exorbitant privilege that went in this generational shift here because the federal reserve balance sheet could reach 9. trillion dollars this is according to the financial times again just like bloomberg so this is the world they know and understand and they have they have received privilege
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from it so you see again from the beginning with the 4th turning 2007 barely anything on the fed's balance sheet then the crisis hit in 2008 and you see the injustice of bankers getting bailed out the rest of the economy getting nothing and now we're up here we've just soared to 7 trillion and they're expecting it to soar by another 2 trillion so within this theme of a generational battle versus. geo political battle between a rising power and a falling power and the exorbitant privilege of the u.s. dollar which has maintained these in the power structure as it is that's disintegrating in my opinion and that's the biggest story in my opinion right wrong ok so they say ok go to 9 trillion now when i was i to try and not too long ago we said they're going to follow japan's footsteps and it's going to be 100 percent
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g.d.p. on the fed's balance sheet so this idea that it could go to 9 trillion we know almost without doubt that it's going to over 20 trillion it's going to go to $2325.00 trillion and higher we know that right now that's not even the effort to bait and why because in 2008 the economy died and the only thing left was to print money and to support the. continuing our class the only play left is to buy their stocks for them that's it that's all we got left so again the 4th turning started in 2005 this is the rise of a new generation the millennial is and now and what happened from there you could see it in that onion headline mocking these looters protesters criticized for looting business without forming private equity firm 1st so this 200-5220 twentieth's so far these past 15 years we've seen that absolute plunder as
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a business everywhere you look private equity we started with that we talked about that recently then you saw the share buybacks plunder plunder plunder plunder derivatives explosion plunder plunder plunder plunder and that's you know whether they knew it like logically and they were thinking about this or it was just an instinct for their generation is they knew it was coming to an end and it was like plunder as fast as possible take all the privilege that we have as a boomer generation that had the largest voting bloc like take that plunge our fastest possible always tough time right and as i say this was triggered in large part by 911 right so 911 happened we saw an enormous acceleration of the plundering because the continuing heirs the top 110th of one percent got really scared and as they pull money out they want offshore with that $2530.00 trillion dollar pool that's managed by the 4 big accounting firms including k p m g and others we saw a need for the them to money supply to ratchet up rapidly because
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a lot of that was being stolen out of the system siphoned out of the system and then when they did this to money expansion and they balance sheet of the federal reserve expanded so rapidly what they did was to appease their. sponsors over there and the container class they bought their stock for them and they put on the balance sheet of the fed and while the supply went out. what did the velocity of money do crash since 2000 we've shown this chart just recently in the last 2 weeks and that was hording effect the place how does joe weighs a ball explain the philosophy of money crashing joe weighs a ball problem. because he's gaslighting i mean if he were just just look at 2 plus 2 equals 4 you know that would be like beyond his comprehension like oh my god you're trying to distort reality all right we're going to take a break and when we come back much more coming your way.
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america will never great was founded on the rape in a murder. nothing changed so we said all response to these situations that we're dealing with. people here is sad every bill the day for you is this sad people kill each other blood for killing children. there was just no way that people are going to just sit back and allow children to be shot down by law enforcement. this country doesn't work for us it doesn't function for us. this is can't be happening in america we call from the streets we got to deal with this is a reason i have to ride like this is the reason. we
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yes well. welcome back to the kaiser report on max keiser time now to turn to gave her a girl back sees digital acid strategist and director at van and the i s. and investment management company well known for its e.t.s. sole disclosure i happen alan some of these that act e.t.f. including g.d. x. and r s k gab are welcome all thanks for having me good to hang out with the kaiser's mikasa a sukkah so van act is most known for these e.t.f. exchange traded funds briefly explain what an e.t.f. is to the audience and how they 1st came about if you ask me 16 straight fonso
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basically a fund that is traded on the exchange like a stock traditionally mutual funds have only traded at the end of the day but introduction of yes in the early truth you can start trading funds or gold because multiple securities underlying like stocks stocks intraday so you could express your opinion on the market sector a country or a commodity primogeniture day in real time and this made it very convenient for investors to trade unregulated brokerages with real time data and low costs now vanek created america's 1st gold fund back in 1968 when the company rightly predicted inflationary pressures coming as the us spiraled toward abandoning the gold standard what is the case today for owning gold in the world of bitcoin when i can be it was one of the companies that correctly identified the coming inflation and re actually in fact identify trends that likely create impact for investment
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opportunities and that was a big old one in 96 states joe and john back and were also there on their rare early firms who provided access to international markets and so the base case. or them best case that i think that's important for gore this is the largest safe haven assets today a trillion dollars rarely could market central banks or own gold and there are tons of sequels and the in the markets like exchange traded funds mutual funds that offer exposure to gold and gold equities so today and the institutional investors that really see are still taking gold overpeck corn as a liquid in large markets this establishment straggle it in a way that's liquid in a way that investors prefer although i think the quinta have a chance to become the joke or that's something on the path to just do that large
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institutional or large. brokerages and money managers like van act and others you know i remember back when i was working on wall street the 1980 s. . you know we we were dealing with the band act all the time and it's got a great reputation but you know the types of organizations are not necessarily known to being on the leading edge of finance innovation and yet vanek would just jump right in the big coin pull right away kudos for that and i think it served you guys very very well you have recently been quoted big coing is a nonviolent revolution against central bank monetary control tell us more. you know i do do things in a central banking activity has particularly 'd after the 2008 financial crisis and
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there is trillions of dollars printed out of an era and the average investor doesn't have any control over this process or saying that and my belief is that the average person should have some say so the only way to express an opinion that's true investing. and that's why i think the best quantum goals are similarly and non-sovereign issued a non government created 'd currencies and it is a revolution that climate as investors and people can generally use to express their opinion. again i think central banking has gone too far and in depreciating currencies and making decisions on behalf of people and there is no way to opt out except through these currencies that are not directly regulated by some banks and i think there's there are millions of people that have an interest in you know non-sovereign issues currencies and it's not necessarily because they don't
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appreciate government and new forms of governance it's just because they're the value of dollars and currencies are the preceding in our pocket so they had against us kind of the appreciation or looking invest in the markets and and. i think you know bricklin is one of those instruments that has emerged as a potential store of value and gold obviously is auctioning non-sovereign the shoe store about and frankly i think. the fact i think if you look at the history of central banks central banks are buying gold around a role 'd hedge against themselves. they claim being another alternative is actually very positive for everyone including banks plain to me how works over there vanek because you've got of course maybe some different camps different ways of thinking because sensed a recent crash in the stock market and the huge bounce back in stocks what we know is that it's almost entirely driven by central bank money printing the fundamentals
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of harlem and yet stocks are going higher thanks to the fed buying stocks the fed is actually buying e.t.s. right when i said there would be no stock market rally at all they're the only as a matter of. they outbid warren buffett for ally in stocks that's why he didn't buy any airline stock because the fat outbid him to buy airline stocks so within the vanek community is there 2 separate camps think because yes you're talking about a nonviolent revolution against central bank monetary control meanwhile there's other funds in the vanek umbrella of funds that are participating directly in the central bank monetary control what's going on over there anything so i mean obviously there are a number from have many act different activities of the firm managers and you know my journal there is that people should invest in the stock markets and should participate in the comic anomic reality and they should have some reasonable
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exposure to stocks bonds and whatever is available out there at all so i emphasize and this is what the financial service community happens to forget that it's good that has 1st and there has been things can go wrong and that's why now it is my responsibility to add the view into gold is important because it is important watch out for inflation while they are in a deflationary environment that is you know the real cost of living in the top 50 u.s. cities and increasing 10 percent a year so these are the you know and every company there are managers for instance like myself that tried to call attention to the straw sticks in areas like central bank failures extreme inflation and the valuation of investment banks happens fast in this market so i'm in the pen and i'm in the camp that that warns others to compliment their portfolio with gold and corn to prepare for a potentially catastrophic scenario and beyond that we offer exposure to different
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countries stocks russia vietnam into major interesting areas like east or to core investment bonds and everything like that but we also try to highlight the risk and risks in the system which we i think do more prominent way to many other asset management met. gers enhanced our efforts are and bold and and the best corn market helping hoping that one day people will be able to express european and trip it clean and fair enough now let's get into some nitty gritty here because there is no bitcoin e.t.f. which is right surprising to me because there's obviously a huge market for this you know barry silbert over there at grey scale he's polunin hundreds of millions of dollars a quarter right he's eating the fund industry's lunch he's making the e.t.f. industry look very slow and unresponsive to the public demand the public market why is there no big point e.t.f.
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and there should be a because if you mention this many times obviously working with one for years. from my bill my belief is the best plan brings a kind of structural benefits to the markets and. one of that as your daily proof of reserves transparent holdings prices property tax documents and intraday tradeable it even no lock outs and high premiums those are all the benefits that would help the average investor to access this market out liquid and regulated day and you know that as you know there's literally the mission of regulators so i say that and they should actually approve a bit corny too. to allow people 'd the kind of more like that and then transparent instruments regulators are dragging their feet as this is a new asset and while we know that the coin is more than 10 years old now and established in the grand scheme of things it's actually very limited and i'm a time when man i brought to market 1st gold equities and the 6th time it
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took time for us also to build their established country funds that are not were not favorable at the time so time to build a nice boards on so it just takes time for regulators understand this market though i do not believe that they are correct in their say. assman that there's more risk in manipal a sion and the coin than other markets i've written numerous studies and papers showing that back when as just as good as the market as gold and other commodities are so eventually i think regulators will come around because they can is already ubiquitously available 'd on crypto exchanges and you know and random closed end funds and private because and the logical next step would be to really allow the corn to come if yes based and in fact in the b.c.f. market has become a 6 trillion dollar industry in roughly 20 years i do think that the next phase.
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if he asks and the next great investment vehicle will have a bill has something to do with the coin and organization so as you know if you have for a very small 20 years ago or in the match 6 trillion dollars of my go to 20 trillion dollars in the next and years you know what's the next piece yeah and that investment structure is going to be brought about by beck when and tokenization and so this is very good that we're looking into this for the regulators right now and eventually my hope is that they will 'd come around it's not you know the shortness of effort to bring about a break when e.t.f. we have been trying and and proper controls around the vehicle it's just regulators haven't made up their mind the they usually take the time write love me and put pose a scenario you tell me if i'm being paranoid or not because the regulator say that one of the problems with a big when e.t.f. is they don't have good prices sky every on these exchanges. and at the same time
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they're perfectly happy allowing an a.t.f. in the oil sector like it goes under the ticker symbol you ask and my question is are the regulators seemingly playing favorites here because obviously a big 20 t.f. is a threat to the industry that they regulate is that an issue in this case because this argument about x. your price discovery doesn't hold water it's obviously a red herring because if you can easily disprove that but am i being paranoid what do you think i do you are absolutely correct there is a persistent double standard against the clinton digital assets which i think is wrong i've shown it again and them or start as public and private ones to regulators 'd that the current price discovery is a session and back more efficient than some of the commodities that you mentioned the oil market and i think one of the solutions that we worked on is we have a german subsidiary called m b i asked fully regulated and accepted the area that actually became the largest
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crypto index provider so we actually built. we built regulated in the season that regulators started feeling better about that house price discovery so you know really work critic shane just to get the right that we showed the regulators 'd that screen that. we showed that you know we do the same professional management. precautions that we do but actually he's another afa classes as well and i think they're getting they had their understanding of the space or a bit better i do not believe that pricing and price discovery is a big issue and track we have sold that a number of our clients on this such that there you have approved registered funds with the land canada and japan and like other places so this is i think it's important to know that global regulators have recognized that we have sold this problem and that and sooner know that red arrow later the u.s. regulators will recognize. all right gary thanks for being on the kaiser report
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thank you for having me. and that's going to do it for this edition of for the cause report was made nice keyser and stacy herbert want to thank our guests gabber grr backs of van if you like to reach us on twitter it's kaiser report the next time by. seems wrong. just don't. get to see. this day. after. and in. the trail. find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.
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according to several sources felice in the united states kills from 2 to 4 people every day. had his hand. sanitizer. say one of my being arrested for a response from enough. is just their little world to establish they develop just us against them it's. a long history of 2525 years as. i read this from someone told me. there is a corruption inside of the police but i think things don't. join me everything on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to us from the world
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of politics sport i'm show business i'll see you then. welcoming our viewers from around the world at life from central london this is r.t. u.k. . charities say rocketing unemployment levels will plunge over a 1000000 britons into poverty creating hundreds of thousands of children it follows the prime minister's warning that many many will lose their jobs following the coronavirus pandemic. as america's ongoing social unrest continues all 4 police officers present when george clooney donate or not face charges that south west midlands police come under investigation for tasering him on the claims he was targeted because he was black we hear from
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a community activist. leader of the house of commons has reiterated that the government won't extend the brakes a transition period that's as a form of scottish 1st minister calls for an extension amid the global pandemic. for strong she should not be playing politics with the people of britain at a time when they're facing the biggest challenge it's hard since 1940. and $150.00 illegal migrants cross the channel after they were escorted into british waters i'll be joined by an immigration lawyer. charities warn the soaring unemployment stooge of the coronavirus pandemic will send over a 1000000 more britons into poverty by the end of the year the stark warning comes after the prime minister admitted significantly more british workers will lose
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their jobs we're following this hour to you. me now so that he said can you tell us about these unemployment predictions absolutely we've been seeing throughout this crisis many concerns not just of course around public health the number of people who have sought the lost their lives but also with regards to the deaths and also the economic difficulties which are taking place and that's something that the prime minister and alluded to during yesterday's daily press briefing. but let's be in no doubt you of course i'm afraid tragically there will be many many job losses and that is just inevitable because of the effect of this virus on the economy and because of because of the shutdown that has taken place now we've also seen that type of pessimistic outlook shared by a number of former chancellors who are all given the same kind of negative pessimistic outlook if you will in terms of their forecasts with regards not just
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the economic downturn now but of course what could take place even after the lockdown measures have been lifted really only government is big enough to provide the scale of 1st support that i think will be necessary and as i said earlier we need to get ourselves into the frame of mind we were thinking about 19 eighties levels of unemployment if it doesn't happen that's great and we need to be ready for that terrible loss of g.d.p. might be less than in 20089 but that there may be a large number of human chasms exult there in the in the process the real question is what was the last half of the recovery looked like once we get back to you know a lot of output of quotes only 6 percent how do we how do we make that last bit back up is it a steep curve or is it a long shallow kind of. now there have been warnings from a number of different sects including charities warnings up more than
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a 1000000 people could be plunged into poverty by the end of this year and of those 1000000 people 200000 of them could be children of course we do know there have been possible ports by the united nations stressing that thousands if not hundreds of thousands of children already live in poverty in the united kingdom that could get much worse the bank of england of also published gloomy economic forecasts which estimate $2000000.00 people could be put into unemployment again as a result of the covert 19 lockdown that would bring the total number of jobless people to $3300000.00 that's just under 10 percent of the total it's ish workforce and would indicate a furry dark period ahead for many of the sponsibility also say that tax cuts in the magazine measures could cost the u.k. economy over 130000000000 pounds while there will be those who are self-employed and owners of particularly small businesses who are saying that they haven't received enough support and that if they're going to survive going forward the
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government will have to step in and help them much more. bleak figures that thank you very much indeed. now the remaining 3 for my minneapolis police officers who were present at the death of george floyd will now also face charges after initially only losing their jobs they're now charged with aiding and abetting murder while the officer who fatally pinned floyd to the ground by his neck has had his chance raised to 2nd degree murder or face a maximum of 40 years in prison if convicted meanwhile across america the calls for justice and police reform continue many are peaceful but not all.
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and near the white house in washington d.c. there was also another day of protests several demonstrators reportedly targeted the security barriers that have been erected outside. meanwhile in the u.k. a betting man who was tasered outside his home by a west midlands police officer claims he was targeted because he was black travail wise had just arrived home from work when there was a car accident in his street said to went outside to see what had happened 30 year old wife said he was tasered by an officer after refusing to comply with an order to lie on the ground other bystanders were talked to like it comes as west midlands police are undergoing 9 investigations by complaints about excessive force by their officers on black men the independent office for police conduct who are
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investigating the incident said holding officers into account was coming across. our inquiries are looking at all the circumstances and whether the use of force by officers was justified and proportionate in each of these instances we're also looking into complaints that police allegedly acted in a discriminatory manner towards some of the men involved i am fully aware of the impact these incidents can have on public confidence in policing and again reiterate that we will look at these matters thoroughly and fairly i would also stress that west midlands police force is cooperating fully with us. or tony there is a community activist involved in exposing instance of excessive police force that's been getting so as many thank you for joining us the police watchdog is investigating 9 reports of excessive force that's by west midlands police is not a true reflection of what's going on on the ground it is i mean as far as it's
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concerned there were 6 incidences as a result of the 6 incidences there are 9 probes and we're talking use of excessive force from discharge of tasers to a bomb on a bystander and also as well to someone being falsely accused of stealing their own bicycle and they end up being thrown on a car bonnet and kicked and punched a 15 year old boy lying on the ground he was being chased by an officer and he lies on the ground defensively and he is kicked and off that casey's dad i'm dealing with directly of a person with a broken ankle and the one with a broken arm well i mean it's like so it doesn't let's go for that you're looking for a disappointing for police officials to look again at how officers are trained to use tasers in this particular instance so what changes are not would you like to say. what we want to know what scrutiny is taking place in terms of the officer's actions and also in terms of you know that many of these incidences occurred when
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the officers were there weren't on their own they had someone with them and could in terms of the use of taser from what i've seen of the video the officer shante tell you after he fired it we didn't hear any warnings on that video and we could hear what was going on but more importantly it would appear that taser was his only resource at that time what deescalation skills had taken place what dialogue was attempted and important was it the use of proportional force and that's the issue that we've got to really tackle in terms of the use of force against members particularly of the black african caribbean community well look at that particular case trivialized believes he was targeted because he was black but the thing that would be that's actually very difficult to prove isn't it. not necessarily because what we've got to do we've got to look at. the type of force that was used we've seen on the 40 job the cases that involve black and white people and we've seen different outcomes right ok the police and crime commissioner and the what are they
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say that having public trust is essential to policing by consent that's how it's done in the country isn't it by consent do you trust them to bring about change. they've been in denial for the past 23 years now of what i've been saying and it's only the suite that come out and said well we have a problem so it's taken 2 to 3 years for them to admit they've got a problem and remember this is a preexisting issue community relations with the black community have never really been that good we've had very and so various uprisings in birmingham over the years and clearly a lot of it has been because of poor community relations with the police and this occasion on these occasions rather it only appears to highlight that we're no further forward this is despite reports by julie silverman locally lord scarman and also the macpherson report you know where are we any further forward and say we're not because we're still talking about the same thing that we're talking about 30 years ago well looking at community relations and i mean what would help we gain
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trust i think stiff penalties for offending officers or also on the other side as well recruiting more black offices well i mean trust and confidence will only come where at the end of the day the rules apply equally to everyone and stop making excuses for rogue officers deal with the rogue officers on a 0 tolerance basis but also as well you know there's good and bad everywhere there are good often police officers whose good work is actually being tarnished by these rogue offices and the only way you're going to recruit more black off he says is when officers see that they community a well potential office rather see that their communities are being treated fairly which is not happening at the moment i mean we suffer from every single form of disproportionate you disproportionality when it comes to police contact like you can think of to use a taser the use of pompous the use of excessive force the use of baton the use of speed towards that speaks for itself so how on earth are you going to wavering coleridge a member of the black community to join the police the only way you can do that is
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by cleaning it up has been getting thank you very much and if your thoughts thank you and here. the house of commons they did take a very small and has reiterated that the u.k. government will not extend the bracks that turns it around period. ensuring we leave the transition period successfully in full by the end of this year is one of the government and even more importantly the british people's highest priorities an extension of the transition period been neither in the u.k. is nor the europeans interest both parties want and need to conclude a deal this year to complete the transition period an extension to the transition period was bind us into future you legislation without us having any say in designing it but still having to foot the bill for payments to the e.u. budget we must be able to design our own rules it is our in our own best interests without the constraints of e.u. regulation so i would like to assure my own friends and the people of ashfield that the government is delivering on this promise so to quote margaret thatcher will we
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have an extension no no no. former 1st minister scotland henry mcleish says an extension to the transition period is necessary as the country can't cope with another deal breck said at the same time as a global pandemic a current economic recession we need an extension for the whole of united kingdom but it would be simply insane and to change the country where we've got a health emergency the economic recession that we've got which could get much worse and then i don't i'm not an adventurer not a level of crisis when we don't need to this is not about rewriting the bricks that result that what it's saying to the government stop being distracted by breck's it and start to concentrate on the kind demick and when you think about the economic consequences why would any country want to leave the european union a tried and trusted partner over many decades about solidarity about trade and noble and position where we want to leave at a time of crisis in the u.k.
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and even more problematic possibly try and have a consolation prize in arrangement with donald trump who's a very unreliable president at this particular time so all in all i think we should keep the pressure on par with johnson to do the same thing to allow him to concentrate on the big priority which is the pandemic indeed that it's unlikely in terms of scotland itself though isn't it that the e.u. would grant a scottish i mean extension the u.k. is supposed to leave as gone isn't it and it i mean and you know the rules of the european union don't commit up but what i think is important is that there are many people in england many local authorities many regions we've got wales got northern ireland we've got scotland we should all be applying the pressure because see the great problem about reese mark bar the johnson they still think they're campaigning my advice to them is to start governing and what the united kingdom needs now is not this adventure with no destination in sight what we need to do is deal with
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a pandemic deal with the economic recession and then in a year 2 years trying to conclude the arrangements with the european union it's not . boat rewriting the brakes in the deal has been. cut the guy has been cost and what we've got to do know to say to the british people look do you want 3 crises do you want to make you want to recession or do you want another european union crisis don't do porn you thought was johnson should not be playing politics with the people of britain at a time when the facing the biggest challenge this hard since 1945. instead of on the south. the shuttle commons leadership lost the shambolic hearings system to voting implementers the business secretary is tested for corona virus. and i recall the daily number of illegal immigrants across the channel off a 150 people were scoresheet into british waters we hear from an immigration lawyer . or.
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isolation or community. are you going the right way right you being led. by. what is true what is. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the death. or a mate in the shallowest. welcome back illegal crossings of the english channel of hit record figures for a single day off for a french naval vessel escorted more than $150.00 migrants into british waters this
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those day groups of men women and children were seen near dover one vessel was thought to be 30 feet long and carried as many as 60 people there were 166 migrants attempting to cross the channel in total on thursday morning hitting a record for a single day one of the boats was 1st spotted just off the french coastline and there was a score to into british waters. so should the british government renegotiate illegal migration terms or not well earlier i was joined by human rights to a shred and car and former practice it party m.e.p. nathan gill. i think that what we have witness in is that they're actually that they're not all that they don't want to control migration illegally over the channel because if they did they would be following the protocols which are already in place which would allow them to bits and asylum seekers to the country in which they 1st entered the european union so the very fact that we've got people who are
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fleeing from friends claim in asylum in britain would make me ask the question at these genuine asylum seekers are they people who have actually fled their home nations come to europe and sought refuge at the fast points of entry in the e.u. by the people who literally just want to come to grips in and therefore they are put in their children's lives at risk other lives at risk of breaking the law and quite frankly if you are i k where to get on a boat and go in the channel right now we'd be arrested for breaking the law and also have had to respond to that. i mean firstly obviously i guess the basic thing to say is we sense a humanitarian crisis more than illegal in one or other ways obviously there are moral and ethical aspects to this as well but obviously we don't but the law today and little one thing to generally say about this i mean 1st it's only been
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a myth that there's any requirement for someone to claim asylum in the 1st 6 country there eat that just isn't anybody reply and now to the u.n. charter no you know no international refugee convention actually says that so that's the 1st thing to say but secondly and particularly britain as an island and if we were to say that people could only claim asylum and in the 1st wave country and if they come to us through a 3rd country then they shouldn't be allowed to have should be removed then i don't see how any asylum seeker would ever reach or unless they took a flight and then obviously you know most asylum seekers financially or otherwise are they able to do that legally are the average obtain a visa there is no way to obtain a visa and say you know i need to go to britain to games and that can apply to britain obviously there's no way of doing that so that's the 2nd thing. obviously in terms of the u.k. government not being in control i don't think that's disputed brett anyone obviously that's been the case for decades now the home of this is completely out of control and it has no idea what it's doing it just right or trying to get these people and obviously you know the easiest targets is the one it targets you know
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people it can remove even when there are a mood when it can't be it was something that just ignored it so i mean i don't think anyone would. disagree with the view that these crossings or any other really dangerous crossings are dangerous journeys to the u.k. i'm not a complete failure of the international system humanitarian law and the home office of course yes i mean it is something that the government should be looking at but i don't think it should necessarily be with the sole purpose of we need to reduce the number of people coming out or we need to reduce the number of asylum seekers in the well at all neither should we follow for example countries like australia by sending boats back to their starting point to stop people taking dangerous journeys . well then the only way you're going to actually stop this is by being very very hard on illegal entry into the united kingdom so no way to stop it and if you don't then people will keep on flanks in the long people keep on trying their best to get into groups and. often on the legal implications of this issue are now joined by
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immigration and asylum barrister in the basement thank you for joining us what do you negotiate or negotiate an agreement to take back illegal migrants at this stage we think. the e.u. already has an agreement with the u.k. it's several years old the u.k. is often in breach of that agreement the agreement is the dublin regulations the dublin regulations requires countries with family members of those asylum seekers to take in those asylum seekers many of the people who are making these crossings have family in the u.k. they have uncles they have grandparents they have siblings the u.k. is legally required to take in these people and it often doesn't when we look at the statistics. a small fraction of the transfer requests that are made by people to come to the u.k. actually awful filled and so this is a longstanding agreement which the u.k. as very often very deliberately in breach of and the people that have crossed
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recently being escorted by the french navy here was safeguarding their lives may very well have a very good legal right to be in the u.k. or britain will no longer be covered by you know they doubly regulation that you're referring to that regarding a lot of application after december 31st when it while the u.k. has been in the goshi ations with france a bilateral negotiation between france and u.k. and it is entirely focused on hyper security it's focused on c.c.t.v. its focus on fencing and it's focused on military aspects to make sure that asylum seekers do not come to the u.k. that's essentially what this is all about it's a sick race to the bottom neither country wants to accept asylum seekers they are trying their very best to. give that responsibility to the frontier states the frontier states italy and greece have taken far more extraordinarily amounts more than the u.k. or france and still both of these countries are trying to alleviate themselves now
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actually the agreements when we look at them between the u.k. and france do require still even after the u.k. leaves the you to continue to take in unaccompanied children and those with family members in the u.k. . a but based on what we've seen so far how the u.k. has been responding to that i'm not confident that the u.k. will live up to its end of the bargain it has a very poor record of living up to its end of the bargain we saw just a couple of years ago the parliament agreeing to take in 3000 unaccompanied minors from the rest of europe and already we have seen breaches of that reneging on that responsibility ultimately the u.k. is a hyper securitized hyper sensitised very aggressive very hostile country towards migrants and by all measures it looks like it will continue to be some kind of the government should also i think it's on the smugglers that the people who make money out of other people's misery that's essentially all the government does the entire conversation about migration entirely focuses on this idea of attacking the
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smugglers attacking the human rights traffic is when actually all that is done is push this issue further and further into a very difficult makea area where no government seems to have control and every government is trying to give the responsibility to other countries and there seems to be very little cohesive action across the e.u. and i actually think the u.k. is primarily to blame for that for being the country that is most hostile to migrants that has taken the least amount of responsibility and countries like italy the frontier states are really trying very hard to persuade the other european countries to sell it this is a big problem it's going to continue to be a problem there's women this children this big of victims of trafficking victims of torture victims of rape that are trying to get away from these horrible conditions let's do something together in the u.k. has essentially said no not me i'm out and and i am going to focus primarily on my
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security our security into the conversation has been entirely about traffic is not about the victims and that's not how i thank you very much indeed he'll thoughts thank you thank you. now the house of commons leader jacob respond continues to face criticism for his plan to end virtual voting after m.p.'s voted it through on cheers day the shadow commons leader warned that forcing members back to parliament could risk their health there were 2 pictures of long queues one was of us in parliament the other was outside a furniture store with better social distancing that we had when you get to the top of the queue with one you've got a cushion and maybe some meat balls with us you might even get infected i notice that the prime minister and the minister for the cabinet office or not they're voting with us. but the leader of the opposition was there that image of our parliament is going to live with this government forever the government is putting
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the house staff the doorkeepers all of us up risk they are alarmed but going to come as fair as man to our business secretary analog charmer appeared visibly ill at the dispatch box after his stint in the commons he was tested for covert 19 and went into isolation the prime minister insists the public doesn't want to see m.p.'s return to the commons but a new poll appears to tell a different story just 12 percent of the public agree that m.p.'s should be in parliament to vote while 41 percent think remote voting should be in place until the pandemic is brought under control and 35 percent of people think the option of remote voting should always be allowed well this comes as officials from a union representing clark's security guards and kitchen staff in parliament are threatening strike action following choose days voting queue they've told or thought is that m.p.'s fail to keep their distance from staff they also highlighted
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the concern that many employees are from ethnic minorities who have been disproportionately affected by coronavirus alarm on the m.p.'s are due to debate methods like proxy voting and virtual participation pushing holding members. and i'll be back with more news at the top of the hour see if. we go to work for you straight home.
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