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your humidity in august but this fear of my friends isn't coming from the thousands of protesters that have descended on the imaginal mall or lafayette square or the d.c. residents navigating both the covert 19 pandemic and the black lives matter protests no no this tidal wave of fear is emanating from the marble halls of the capitol building and the old will shape rooms of the white house yes the corridors of power here in washington d.c. are seeing a nation rise up in one voice and scream enough is enough black lives matter reform and justice are coming and the old ways of oppression and white power are ending how do you know they are as frightened as schoolchildren on report card day well because they are now turning us streets into war zones starting with the nation's capital as d.c. is reports the chief of the national guard bureau confirmed tuesday that an

additional $1500.00 national guardsmen would join the response to protests in d.c. after $1300.00 were deployed on monday defense secretary mark asper who spent wednesday morning opposing the united states president donald trump the chicken hawk in sheep's threats of military reprisals against u.s. citizen well he of broccoli reversed a decision to order active duty troops home from the national capital region on wednesday and now journalists jason leopold and anthony cormier of buzz feed are reporting that quote the drug enforcement administration has been granted sweeping new authority to conduct covert surveillance and collect intel of. on people participating in protests over the police killing of george floyd according to a 2 page memorandum obtained by buzz feed yes while many norm normally the d.a. is limited to only investigating drug related federal crimes it now appears that turning general william bars so scared he is taken off the leash designated the

agency to enforce any federal crime committed as a result of protests over the death of mr floyd on a nationwide basis for a period of 14 days these moves along with the rampant police brutality and provocative action that we witnessed since these protests started clearly show that the powers that be are shaken in their wing tips which means my friends it is a good time to start watching the hawks. on a cd street you want to see. there so you can see that this is joyce state. great city this least systemic deception is the late show which. brings up the old. welcome everybody to watching the world winter i mean. let's start by

going out to minneapolis minnesota and freelance journalist ashley banks who's been covering the mint memorial service for george floyd welcome ashley can you tell us a little bit about the memorial. so i'm here at north central university where the memorial for george voight took place earlier today a memorial service was not open to the public and the access was extremely limited for the press at least a 1000 people from the public were in attendance and they stood outside of barricades right behind me and were able to listen and on reverend al sharpton deliver the eulogy i want to read you a quote from him he stated we will keep going until we change the face. system of justice and civil rights leader he also deliver eulogies during the funerals for michael brown and eric garner eric garner somebody who died in a similar fashion to george full wade and out sharpton basically said enough is enough we need to stop jumping from funeral to funeral of african-americans who have died at the hands of police officers now air garners mother kevin hart

a looter chris and master p. were also in attendance at today's memorial service now master p. he spoke to the media and he discussed his experiences with police brutality he also spoke out against the media coverage he was saying that some members of the media are showing the wrong parts now meesha we've seen a plenty of video of the looting and fires we've seen that stuff on a loop and that's a p. he says this is the wrong message and said the media should be showing the positive sides of this global movement now after george floyd family al sharpton and been jamin crump the lead attorney for the family left the university a peaceful protest in a way took center stage as people shouted george boy's name and they called on accountability and demanded that these officers not just be charges they have been but be convicted and sentenced i mean a. we're going to see you been on the ground in minneapolis for quite some time

what has been your experience of attending these protests and speaking with the protesters there. that's right carol i have been here for almost a week now and i've spoken to quite a few protesters quite a few locals and from day one the people of minneapolis they wanted to see these 4 officers charged and now that they've been charged they want to see convictions all the protests i've attended of course they've been peaceful even the ones that have taken place after curfew the crowds are always diverse and there's a real sense of community here i interviewed quite a few people who said they were willing to risk their lives and the name of john. just is i remember attending one of the protests it was the 4th precinct and the national guard showed up in the law enforcement was there but basically these people were they were peaceful and they were simulating is exactly what george floyd went through when he was dying at the hands of officer derrick show bad but the national guard didn't move and because these people were peacefully protesting

what they were saying to the protesters they're like if they moved in we don't care we're here in the name of justice and if we lose our lives so be it. i also want to talk to that the fact that people are still upset tyrrell people are still upset in the city over to mark clark they're upset over philander because steel these are 2 african-americans that died at the hands of police officers in minneapolis and st paul and these officers were not charged or convicted or sentence for their deaths and so this is a big deal for people this is george floyd it's and it is not just one incident it's not isolated this has been happening for years and they want to see justice the attorney general has asked the public to be patient during this time he said that it's going to be really hard and challenging when it comes to convicting all 4 officers i was told by protesters they were tyrrell if these officers are not convicted and sentence then it's going to be a really bad day for the people here in minneapolis back to you tara. great

coverage thank you so much for being there on the ground with us thank you. you're welcome. and now to discuss the push to militarize the response to the murder of george floyd in the black watch murder protests as well as the move. to spy on protesters a senior fellow at the center for international policy a u.s. marine corps veteran of the 2nd to iraq war matthew old much for coming on about the. thank you for having me on matthew as a military veteran as i said of the 2nd iraq war which after the initial invasion was really a war of military occupation and policing what makes president trumps push for a militarized response to these protests so dangerous for the american people. well you know. the answer that question is how quickly things can escalate. particularly as you have a number of what overseas we'll call sext you know sectarian groups we have those

here in the u.s. and you've seen in a number of cities these self described patriots these militias that are coming out to support the police. we in that's what they're where the danger to me really lies in how quickly this could escalate where these patriots or someone you know maybe from you know there are there are groups on the left that want to see violence you know how quickly the 2 mixing together escalates things and then it gets out of hand and anyone who was in iraq saw this very. sincerely and very clearly how the violence quickly took off violence that hadn't existed among again what we would call sex against among these sectarian groups balancer hadn't existed prior to our invasion but when you have a catalyst when you have an invasion when you would then have an organization like

the u.s. military so that comes in him plays favorites picks winners and losers so we're going to pick this year over the sunni in iraq if you have that in the united states which is what you do because you know nobody quit with the honest face kids you know or on his voice can say that these peachtree or groups are not aligned with the police you know so that's where for me it's really dangerous how quickly it can escalate how things can get out of control and on the other side of it how many people there are in this country that want to see things get out of control for whatever reason and then you know if the top it all off where you have men not just like donald trump but say attorney general bill barr who doesn't represent the right wing if they're seeing this now it's his chance to establish. long want did desires to control things or to put people back in their place and yeah we

are we're very much on a knife said here i. don't want to be hyperbolic but i do knowing what i've seen overseas. you know how quickly things can escalate yeah we're on a knife's edge and i am hurrican to agree with you matthew on the elements of escalation that we're currently facing and it's actually a good tie in to this next question in a controversial new york times opinion piece in u.s. the north tom cotton writes one thing above all else will restore order to our streets in overwhelming show of force to disperse detain and ultimately deter low breakers the insurrection act authorizes the president to employ the military or any other means in case of the insurrection or struction to the last matthew why do you believe so many of our politicians like cotton and president trump are so quick to jump on a military solution for this the mythic issue. its power i knew tom cotton in afghanistan actually and then in 20092010 him and i did the rounds on me in the war and larry king together you know fox except for. when he ran for office he was

suddenly a different person i mean he had conservative views he had. you know he thought a military solution in afghanistan was possible things i disagree with but he wasn't this. you know the this. you know i'm struggling to find the right words for how much of a cretin he has become you know in a sense where he reaches for just like donald trump the lowest common denominator where he reaches for the easiest pieces where he recognizes that if i can do only get violent need 37 percent of the american public to support me that's the 37 percent i'm going to play to and so that's what cut tom cotton like many people in congress on the right and the left i mean you can criticize certainly the democrats right now we're not doing anything. i mean in n.c. pelosi makes a speech holding a bible then she makes his big theatrical show where she sits down to read the bible she's a speaker of the house she can do

a lot more than read the bible you know the same thing to look at the incidents in new york it's all under democratic administrations bill de blasio defending the police there you know that's because these politicians regardless of which party they are are concerned about holding on to power or building more power and so i think you see that reason right and left that's why i think the notion that somehow things are going to change by just basically reforms or people signing petitions or by voting except is really a folly because you know it is his you know insurrection act is you know something that people are discussing quite a bit now because president trump wants to use that to send the army in and i suggest people go back and see even go to wikipedia page and look that up and see how often the u.s. military was used to control the population was just to get threatening the established power you know it was used quite a bit against the labor movement in the early 20th century and then it was used you

know in and a couple cases actually was used against established a power by dwight eisenhower and john f. kennedy to help desegregate schools but the other times it's always been used as a way to down any threat on established power and so i really urge people to recognize that you know this is nothing new and these protests are nothing new and the threat of military force against them is nothing new and the reality is is that we need to change you know it's cliche but we need to change the whole system i couldn't agree with you more about that i think that's where really starts on the ground what a lot of people are missing when they're kind of seeing the protests right now is they don't understand that it's the entire system it's not just taken down a few statues in the south matthew thank you so much for coming on. illuminating our audience through these issues always a pleasure sir thanks guys. plenty already but you know as we go to the break

remember you can also start watching the hawks on demand through the brand new portable t.v. app which is a bailable on all platforms definitely check it out all right coming up can the united nations actually help change the united states oppression of its black and brown status of the black alliance for peace believes it might be able to put freeman joins us next to talk about that state to watch in the hopes. that. the spiral downward depending on who you believe in the media the civil unrest in america is the result of systematic racism this explains protests and writing but does it the commanding heights controlling the financial

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know what your group of she told. us here. it's ok it was. not something. you'd see me to. do that they can put a stop at the close up. if they do get through to the. city they say yes. yes. the united states has long been used as the human rights police of other nations all other nations not only calling out human rights violations abroad but staging

or working behind the scenes to overthrow regimes for their abuses but those living in glass houses probably shouldn't throw stones at the recent murders of black people like rwanda taylor a model and george boyd by police officers and armed vigilante justice thinking for the billions rightfully sparked outrage instead of believing in understanding or looking at the policies that have nurtured the environment for racism and white supremacy to grow president trump demanded lethal force against protesters. when the looting starts the shooting starts famous words from trump but for blacks like my grandmother who lived through the civil rights movement these words were new or original bull connor popularized them when thinking dogs and water hoses on protesters speaking to him jim crow they were also used by miami police chief walter headley in 1067 as he advocated for radical racialized police policy targeting young black and brown people segregationist george wallace also used the

phrase during his 1968 presidential campaign from flavor e and reconstruction to the formation of the k.k.k. and jim crow to present day horrors of police brutality and systemic racism blacks have endured human rights violations for well over 400 years call for justice into racial discrimination just keep getting louder the united nations is being called on now to step in where our government seems to continually fail here tell us more is next to freeman from the black alliance for peace welcome to. thank you for having me. the history of human rights violations in america is that asked the un has several bodies that been designed to protect human rights of african and black people because of the genocidal conditions facing our communities why do you think republican and democratic administrations haven't really utilized. all. of the usual one they don't they do utilize maybe not these particular bodies but

the you don't trust the the united nations to vance's imperialist aims again so the countries with the claim the i'm sorry the claims that other countries are violating the human rights of their citizens and to justify their ability to go in and intervene in these countries but this country is founded on human rights violations that continue their worst christmas ever since leave and of indigenous people very sorry sorry about that. indigenous people and also to save that of african people and so the the the peak the perpetrators of these violations are the agents that are here to hold of the order of white supremacy and capitalism in this country and so they can't go to those bodies because it would mean. having to address the fundamental aspects of this country the foundations of

power and privilege on the on the previous segment we had a gentleman talking about power and why some of the power being the motivating force behind some of these things which i agree however we have to look at what the nature the fundamental nature of that power we have to identify it and oppose it and those those just white supremacy in capitalism and patriarchy and these are the foundations of this country the democrats and the republicans are basically 2 birds with 2 wings on the same bird that just carry out the maintenance of this country the american exceptionalism and the façade of what his country stands for but only in different ways but one seems to be more like the fist in the. i want to ask you to c m m m s n b c fox over and over again all they talk about is the police policies that need to be changed to see equity in things about marriage or. is there really is police

perform at this point truly a lost cause i mean is there anything that we can change without just ripping out the entire system of policing in this country and starting fresh. no there's not but i think some of what should be inform the policies because you're also seeing things like defund the police and things like that to sound very radical a lot of people are saying they even have it on fox news which makes us you really have as pause well what really should inform the demands that we have which also means that campaigns that we can take up are is that the radical do dishes of the people most impact so the in the black radical tradition we had like then the panthers and and the you know and the ram and union movement they had campaigns calling for community control over the police which means the communities that are being called trolled in occupied by these occupation forces get the have the

democratic right the human right the self-determination to decide to hire fire determine the priorities of duties of what these these forces are determined the consequences if they they do something was wrong the repercussions of really something wrong these are things that we can actually call for when in fact even the history of the black panther party in california they put it on the ballot and that of having you know politicians who invariably fail us and we vote for them we can vote for ballot in just 2 and referendums although they will of course attack those things but it's the it's the more power shifting type of demands that we can actually fight for and in fact just in 2016 and it wasn't the last the 1st time the u.n. united nations working group of people of african descent experts of people of african descent came on a fact finding mission to the united states to look at the you the human rights situation of people of african descent here and upon seeing

a whole host of the normal violations the the characteristic violations we talked about what among their recommendations was community control over the police and so these are things which actually answers the. previous question that they really they won't you know abide by these things without a struggle but we can if we want if we actually align ourselves with the international solidarity and movement and take our things up to the higher bodies like united nations and some redress not that they will automatically jump in there but with pressure from below and in the mass pressure and general solidarity you can actually force the power play at him in ways that will we'll see some change and i believe that will happen. next after years upon years of promises made him promise broken and naturally weary black population in america how do you think the

you when can work to establish trust in the system and dismantle decades of oppression and human rights violations. so i don't think it's more us using the u.n. to do it that we do with them that they are really maybe a mechanism that we can take our grievances to and also our our. you know our situations to our circumstances to internationalize this struggle to put pressure on international pressure on the on the bodies on the powers that be on those things hand can work i mean of that sort rankly why the almost attacked malcolm x. and and dr king because of their their ability to into not just them but their movements and organizations they were to internationalize the struggle so for us we've got to have some more concrete demands more formidable demands that are not subject to co-optation like community control of the police and community control in general of the community i mean the human right to health care right now we're

seeing just as many people i mean so many people are dying of particularly african people people of african descent from the covert 19 pandemic but they've done a interesting job of focusing on a person who tragically died but who. others are tragically dying regularly and then even when it has hands of the police it won't be this one person and there will be many more but they focus on one and have bring all the clergy the and the black miss leadership class in the fall and the celebrities to come in and make it a big show of passivism to quell what dr king called the voice of the on her riot so the voice of the hurt is what dr king called but they criminalize them and they these classes help them criminals but we have to come together and not criminalize anyone and have formidable in the men and make a united front of organization that we most certainly do not always a pleasure having you on and educating our audience of you always do ma'am thank you so much as always sir. thank you. all right everybody that is our show for

you today remember in this world we are definitely not for we are love them enough so i tell you all i love you i am to roll them to the nominee keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night and stay safe. according to several sources at least in the united states kills from 2 to 4 people every day my. head his hands. with sand i surrender. what am i being arrested for a response from enough that. is just their little world to establish

they develop the us against them it's. a long history of 2525 years as. i read this from someone quoting you know. there is a corruption inside of this lease well that things will sure it's. you can't be both with the yeah you like.

a murder was never great was founded on the rape in the murder. nothing changed so we said nope awful response to these situations that we're dealing with. people just sat there with the day she is this people kill each other blood through killing children. so it was just no way that people are going to just sit back and allow children to be shot down law enforcement. this country doesn't work for us it doesn't function for us. this is can't be happening in america we call from the streets we've got to deal with why this is the reason i have to ride like this is a reason. well

coming up to us from around the world why from central london this is on to u.k. . the e.u. chief negotiator hits out of the u.k. government accuses number 10 of storming progress on bret's a trade tool. and was his conviction for obstructing police softer refusing 23 requests to get out of call recent attempts to try a lack of evidence i'll be joined by the us himself. because he watched all the launches an inquiry into what they say is entrenched when he says i'm against clinton's minorities that's as the mother of the rigby cools for those using house ones mud as an argument against the black lives nazi movement still we hear from equality campaign. to make us trucks. traces to wait before the operation until

september or october according to c.b.s. they get that's despite the government growing up the scheme on monday. and a new survey suggests almost the primary schools in england have ignored the government's call to reopen for more people's lives as researches say allowing children to return to school is one to live a 2nd wave of coronavirus we hear from a teacher. the news chief negotiator michel barnier he has hit out at the u.k. government accusing it of storming progress on the bricks at trade talks it follows the conclusion of the latest round of discussions where r.t. u.k. césar ali joins me now for more on this very says so perhaps not surprisingly from what we've heard before the e.u. talks are going smoothly are they yeah absolutely of course we are in the bits of

the virus pandemic but that hasn't stopped talks taking place between the u.k. and the european union albeit virtually and we have now just see in the end of the 4th round of negotiations but it doesn't seem to be the case that there is that much progress taking place as far as the chief negotiator michel barnier is concerned all the blame lies in one direction. or. the u.k. has refused to extend the transition period from our side we have always been open to extending this period by one or 2 years it's possible and written into the agreement our door is still open to that end we must stick to our commitments if we want to move forward. we engaged in this negotiation under a big fusion of

a joint political dictator ration that clearly sets out the terms of our future but. this document the document is a very bore in the only language years. including english. it is not difficult to read. we can reading if i wish. and if the conversation was negotiated with prime minister johnson. yet round after round our british counterparts seek to distance themselves from this common basis now while both sides say that they do want to deal that looks like the no deal possibility that both sides keep saying they want to avoid it could become even more likely as we head towards december 31st of course the end of the transition period that's another sticking point is the e.u.

say that they're willing to extend that but the u.k. have repeatedly said that not willing to seek an extension to that period michel barnier also criticizing the u.k. for what he said was they're rolling back both the political declaration which isn't legally binding the withdrawal agreement which is but as far as the british side are concerned talks have been going in a positive direction despite the lack of progress we have just completed our 4th full negotiating round but the e.u. again by video conference it was a little shorter than usual and more restricted in scope we continued to discuss the full range of issues including the most difficult ones progress remains limited but our talks have been positive in tone negotiations will continue and we remain committed to a successful outcome. we are now at an important moment for these talks we are close to reaching the limits of what we can achieve through the formats of remote

formal rounds if we are to make progress it is clear that we must intensify and accelerate our work now that intensification of the work it would have both sides would probably preferably take place in person rather than virtually and of course we're seeing a lot on restrictions easing here in the u.k. and across the continent perhaps that could be acceleration towards getting a deal done between the 2 sides it would appear however there will be no meeting in person just yet in june the 19th there will be a virtual e.u. summit where mr barnier mr frost will essentially be handing over the reins of talks to their bosses vanderlei and boris johnson the u.k. prime minister and so it remains to be seen whether there will be any progress on that front or whether the 2 sides do that really just need to get into a room together not heads together did he said thank you very much indeed

and i'll be discussing the outcome of this latest round of trade talks with bracks an expert professor alex generator that will be in just over an hour. now britain's equality watchdog is launching an inquiry into what it calls the country's structural race inequality highlighted by the coronavirus pandemic the equality and human rights commission says urgent action must be taken to address imbalances across housing employment education and the justice system it comes after the government promised a review of inequalities a virus infection that's waits across areas like gender ethnicity employment and geography but the watchdog has accused number 10 of not engaging with minorities over the impact of the lockdown in areas such as domestic abuse or the good economy what age are see chair david isaacs said touching grace inequality benefits society as a whole now is a once in a generational but unity to tackle longstanding entrenched racial inequalities we

intend to use our structure tory powers to address the loss of lives and livelihoods of people from different ethnic minorities only by taking focused action to tackle race inequality across britain we become a fairer country in which every individual can reach their full potential everyone must live and work together in order to create a stronger economy and a cohesive society. but it also comes as protesters in london bristol and manchester gathered to take a knee in solidarity with george freud black man killed by police in the u.s. last month it's the 3rd black lives matter protest in the capital this week with thousands marching from my part to parliament square on wednesday. or meanwhile the mother of lee rigby the british soldier murdered by islamist extremists in 2013 has asked the images of her son not to be used in arguments against the protest then rigby said using pictures of her son for divisive posts on social media were hopeful and went against everything a sun stood for. well are all of those issues are not joined by racial equality

campaign that leach aspect to frank you for joining us let's look at this that a big arc is a show that the u.k. really is structurally racist is that of course i mean it's a no brainer and we've seen over the last decade in fact over 20 years the racial inequality gap between black citizens asian citizens and white citizens why didn't particularly after caribbean pakistani and bangladeshi communities they make up the bulk of the so she cannot meet god get pride groups. or interest levels of structural discrimination which have been brutally revealed by this time demagogue us well the question is when i say that i said that there is one of the best places in to be black in the world 7 and she roman. that is if you're a black tory minister but for the rest of us you know it's akin to suffering day at

predictions of constant daily micro discrimination racism whether it's a win or a scandal whether it's grenfell fire outcomes that inquiry's all whether ace scandalously lie high black youth unemployment or date that you know increased rate of stop and search i could read a lot of facts you won't buy i want as a say for the rich to privileged black tory elite i'm no doubt that this is state of promise land but for the rest of us it feels more like a plantation or appears an enquiry as it happened before so why will this one from the h.l.c. bring any lasting trend and one of those. oh here sees a statutory body has made. and has power and laws to make it compelling changes and to charge individual institutions with that discriminate tree practice if it does that then it will make a change but if it's a kind of softball in petaling we see from the choir is of the past and i'm worried

that it will not be impact that we all expect to take let's be clear that the equalities and human rights commission been need power and had responsibility for oversight of race equality and race inequality for the last 10 years and over the time he's witnessed that racial inequality grow and hasn't done much about it some hoping now with the current context that more will be done and funny that i mean you can bet the u.k. to the to the plantation i mean what does the government and society need to do to address these issues whereas a metaphorical car. a comparison of course but the extent to which racism in britain and britain remains a deeply structurally racist country is the comparison i want to make when a government acetone is of a fundamental restructure of. rights and responsibilities so that black british citizens like you like myself and others can walk the streets without fear or us

men for the place can apply for jobs without fear of being chained down regardless of our marriage to send our children to school without the fear of them being excluded and could enter a hospital without the fear of being mentally sectioned or indeed dying from infections such as they call the virus these are the fundamental realities of being black in your britain this government has yet to meet the challenges of finally a very briefly if you don't mind probably are you concerned that the protests in this country could be spreading coronavirus. because although i support him 100 percent i think public health comes 1st sen if any good to meet people are becoming spreaders of the virus that would be entirely tragic in counterproductive we just thank you very much indeed for joining us as a thank you. well iness conviction for failing to follow police instructions has been quite the incident was filmed showing that a test worker being physically removed from her car protesting that she'd done

nothing wrong. so i decided ok you understand you've never actually said. i shall i was going to actually. thank you thank you thank. you however the april 29th team can be surrounded by everybody it's called could have tinted windows a question pulled over to drop off a friend in london police arrested them 47 year old miss bennett for failing to get out of her vehicle after being almost 23 times with police suspected or something suspicious inside the police how can i underscore just how to correctly station children to obstruct a place like nothing was found in her car miss bennett was suspended from her chart and my $900.00 pounds for taking too long to respond to crease instructions on how conviction was quashed last month due to lack of evidence but it's. well now joined by the knights to south korea but it thank you very much indeed for joining us i suppose the question you've probably been asked plenty of times but i'll ask it

again why did you get out of your car after police ask you 23 times yeah i think initially it was never approach they did a hard stop which it was something that took me completely back and some of the officers replying to i was so i didn't actually recognise them as being the place. so you convictions now big question what's the last year entailed for you it's been absolutely. terrible really it's been very bad in terms of you know the turmoil of going to cool reem push through criminal damage through the criminal. criminal justice system i'm not sure i'd call it criminal justice system to be fair but basically i speak absolutely terribly well the police treatment of ethnic minorities in the u.s. is something obviously that we're reading are highlighted by george ford's death what are your thoughts on mars and to me there's not really much difference between what's happening in the usa to what's happening in london these problems have been

going on in london for centuries. you know relatives of this very few black young males i know that have never been harassed or wrongly stopped and searched by the place so i think it is this is a global problem and it's not just happening in america and like to say it's definitely here in the u.k. so what impact has your experience had on your work. well i'm as a nurse and you can't you know as a nurse my record needs to be clean so i was suspended from my job and that caused serious problems. obviously financially also there is no longer any of this very little legal late now so i had to find a whole trial so financially it had a huge impact on me emotionally as had he impacted me so i was actually physically . hit by one of the officers if they think they said it was force was

necessary however i disagree yeah and there because i could sit there a plant he said the police were plainclothes get out who did that and then they identify themselves as the police know one of the one of the officers who was telling me who he was but at the same time his colleague was talking in the adult window so one was saying one thing on one side you have her another on the other side and the call was basically to me surrounded by officers i didn't need that i was arrested i was removed from a car within 6 minutes and they didn't even give me a chance to digest what was actually happening because i'm not a criminal i've never been in trouble with the place in my life it was not something i'm used to and then they took me to the play station even though there was nothing found in my car they then took me to the police station a lot of the 19 hours which i think was quite true obviously they justify in ever

ways i guess what they have a just quickly if i could ask you before you go if you knew that what the following year would entail would you do the same things again i mean what respect would you would you have got out of the car quicker would you have done anything differently . no because i couldn't and it's not an equal pay for somebody to a car do not stop when you can prepare for after i was being hijacked i did not know that they were place initially they they everybody thank you very much indeed for telling us your story thanks very much. for the talking to a system for preventing a 2nd wave of coronavirus won't be fully operational until september or october according to a senior health service figure that's despite the scheme being rolled out on monday by the government chad ever stashed the reports it's only been 2 weeks since then we will have a test track and trace expiration that would be world beating and yes it will be in place it will be in place by june the 1st but the only thing while beating about

the scheme seems to be the flaws really you know the world health organization said right at the start of this test test test we fell down on this 1st hurdle we didn't test it as much as we should have done we were told testing wasn't appropriate in nursing homes and now we've been told testing is that everyone took awhile to get testy to the numbers that we needed to be we're still not there yet and this app is another example of that you know we were supposed to have it open really by july that's what we were told there would be until september not because of t.v. issues those t.v. issues were supposed to be ironed out in the trial but it wasn't really one of young white me still and so the way test interest is supposed to whack is to fast test the people who are displaying symptoms and if they test positive the next stage is trace 25000 contact traces up and down the country have been hired to get

in touch with infected people and ask about who they've been in close proximity with then all of those people will also be told to stay at home for 14 days whether they fell ill or not the problem is it seems thousands of. suspected cases are not getting the message the 1st few days the system went blind there are around 4 and a hong 1000 new cases of cope with 19 of those left in the hospital contracted by n.h.s. traces all self-righteous on the website and the fall of those because into context there actually thought to be 8000 new cases of 19 every single day the primary factor in the fight against the pandemic is to keep to our number below one and the government says that the test and trade scheme is the way to do it but there are just tools in the trace element to the test one to get not yet it's sort of cruising altitude for this the number of tests is going to carry on going up and our ability to use the test we've got is going to carry on going up and this is going to carry on for quite some time before we get to the point i think that we're

all such as far as the government claims it's met it self-imposed target of 200000 tests per day but even that's not enough according to save the government scientific experts in order for the scheme to watch 80 percent of contacts need to isolate within 2 days the problem is though the town around time for test results is longer than the 40 hour window so to be to you have to get people's close contacts i say within 48 hours the test results themselves take 48 hours to come back that is going to be impossible not on call demand that replaced him as house secretary says the program is working wow i mean folks boris johnson promises the tax cut we turn around within 24 hours by the end of june unless of course they're inseparable had. to may have already met its biggest one public trust traces say an average score that gives them the details of 2.5 other people say to expect that

number is much more like that so the government says it is civic duty to comply with the rules relax and interpret it in various ways people simply won't tell themselves if they've done the comings and bent the rules public trust in government is. a lot only. you know there's be errors made all the way through this all out right from the beginning to where we are now this. who's actually really be a private company and that leads to the government and how do you. so it seems unsurprising some people may not want to snitch on their friends but campaign is a warning that's also a privacy matter at stake here to the n.h.s. privacy notice for the program says it gathers information including names addresses dates of birth as well as symptoms of individuals and those they've been in contact with and that data will be stored for 20 years available to anyone in a role in the covert 1000 response the schemes already had to ditch the track

elements of the program the loaded app the government was trialing in may on the isle of wight to some very mixed reviews and coupled with the government's brad habits of announcing targets and missing them and criticism that the scheme was rushed forward to move attention from the done that coming scandal could mean that tests and trades might be dead on arrival shut every day are to u.k. london. and we will u.k. police are reportedly considering their own track and trace after concerns were raised that the government system could shut down entire stations or jeopardize undercover officers that plans they officers who test positive won't give their contacts to the n.h.s. app but instead to have the police force do the contact tracing for them. before on this i'll be joined in the next hour by life science and innovation expert professor michael lewis. and still to come this hour. almost half the primary schools in england have ignored government advice to reopen but research as

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back almost half the primary schools in england have chose not to reopen for more pupils despite the government's call to allow more children to return to school u.k. prime minister barak's johnson had advised schools in england to bring back reception year one and year 6 pupils from june the 1st as the government started a multi phased easing of the lockdown measures before this week most children had been studying online at home and schools were open only for vulnerable children and those of key workers but a survey by the national education union revealed that 44 percent of schools did not open more widely on monday whereas some regions such as the east of england only 50 percent of schools chose to admit more students just 37 percent in the east midlands and 32 percent in london followed suit or only 12 percent opened in the northeast and 8 percent in the northwest where department for education spokesperson says the government will continue to support those schools who haven't

yet been able to open from this week many schools have begun welcoming children from reception year one and year 6 back to the classroom as part of a phased in cautious approach to prepare for this head teachers and school staff have been doing an excellent job including putting protective measures in place and engaging with parents and children we will continue to support schools who haven't yet been able to open more widely to do so as soon as possible. well there are scientific modeling from the university of warrick suggest the gradual reopening of schools is online play to result in a 2nd wave of infections the research also shows that reducing social distancing between adults is more more likely to spark a rise in new cases or more on this i'm now joined by a former regional secretary at the national union of teachers martin powell davis martin thank you for joining us well look at the scientific modeling that it shows that schools reopening would not result in a 2nd wave so then why not reopen. well that's one particular study from one

particular group or research as there are other studies for example the independence age group made very clear that they felt that schools would become institutional amplifiers if they opened more widely but i think the real issue is whichever research or a sparrow it's how are we going to know and the fact is that without the testing and tracking and isolation protocols being in place then if the number starts arise then we will not be able to keep it under control and i think that is the real concern the fact that some of these goals have not opened more widely i think speaks for itself that parents and schools do not believe what the government is saying they do not believe that things are safe at this stage where the government has to strike a balance that they i mean they they can't keep close they can't get the school closed until there's a vaccine because parents need to work don't they to get the economy going and also the kids need to study no one's expecting there to be a vote so you know teachers are believe me with

a loan to be back at work teaching face to face but what it doesn't need to be as everybody understands in terms of public health basics there's got to be testing and tracking and isolation and frankly the government needs to instead of trying to open a lot of down actually get on and do the work that has been done in so many other places correctly they still haven't got the testing and tracking system there's likely now to be over open until probably september so how on earth they can be talking about opening schools more widely now we don't understand and we don't think it's well the government as they say follow the science that's what they've been saying all along and some research shows that children are less prone to the virus and therefore better off in school. well they're clearly less prone to the virus but i think again they have been rather economical with the truth that here what is very clear from the research is that may be less prone but they're very likely to transmitted and the concern is the wider impact that will have on the

wider community even that research from the university of war that was saying that the primary school opening on itself may not have a big effect on the reproduction number was saying alongside other points that it would and of course the issue is that i want to open the schools up so that workplaces can also work up so you're going to have a combination of all these factors brought together children about being brought into schools transmitting the virus and then bringing it back to their families and their parents at the same time as those families are also going to be back in work mixing as well i think that is a very dangerous situation which again without other precautions being employees really does risk a 2nd wave here in britain martin very briefly if you would i mean looking at the school closures it by to increase the gap between rich and poor peoples have no access to the internet and not tops at a time when we are discussing inequalities that way so if the government was serious they wouldn't be closing down the free school meals vouchers which they are

they would have been delivering on additional routers and broadband which they promise and haven't delivered things should be being put in place we want that to be in place that's why schools have been opened for those priority because we understand that but the government instead of just talking has to act and they're the ones that need to act in order for things to be brought about davis thank you very much for joining us thank you for news at the top of the hour. you know what's a clip of she will. be. at the. mall

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