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only as strong as society's most vulnerable and while protesters in the u.s. battle injustice against racial capitalism in the hands of a militants police force what has happened to the wealth of billionaires in shops being looted co-author of billionaire bonanza 2020 omar ocampo about have billionaires are profiting off a pandemic while millions have the broader goal is more coming up in today's going underground but 1st against the backdrop of protests against oppression in the u.k. mirroring the full scale uprisings taking place in the united states the british government's crude a virus response still appears to be falling well short of what is needed with over $60000.00 deaths and rising while health experts on the alarm on another arguably anemic contact tracing system so is it any wonder that some who have campaigned their whole lives for equality and now looking for a way to not just recover from grown a virus but to reform the entire system so tragedies on this scale can never happen again one of those campaign is lord john bird founder of u.k.
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homeless charity magazine the big issue he has introduced a bill into palm and that aims not only to limit the effects of coronavirus on future generations but to revolutionize society in the manner of climate that is $945.00 government that suited the creation of the n.h.s. he joins me now via skype from cambridge in england thank you so much for coming back on lord john birt i'm going to ask you obviously given that you campaigned about the big issue the name of your magazine all your life it seems the government was able to solve the big issue overnight when it came to a pandemic does this mean that all these years it was a political decision to have homelessness in this country. it was a political decision it was a decision made in the late 19th fifty's and the 19th sixty's to instill not allowing people to be on the streets because of the laws which were cool vagrancy laws which were victorian and made it look as though you were being very hard and
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tough on the poorest people who ended up on the street and so nobody was allowed to sleep rough argues a rough sleeper time so i know all about that what happened was the laws were not changed but people were politically different lives no we're not going to bring people off the streets we're not going to take them to call rough treatment for begging we're going just going to completely ignore it but the problem was they didn't replace it with anything else so what looked like a very liberal well intentioned of look let's not punish the poorest among us they killed them and since then we've had many many deaths on the streets we've had an increasing amount of people on the streets so the obus bill of the any chance has the people with problems of ended up on the streets or mental institutions were closed so that happened children coming out to care in the community look who authorities care often ended up in the streets people who served in the armed
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forces and the producers and what it was was the streets became a place where people said let's just ignore it let's just not actually engage and lead the pandemic some people realize of course that every speck to your position in the social hierarchy the cracking or that if if you are ill. and you could cross on to something else so suddenly the government wakes up to the reality that every last one of those human beings who are on the streets are revenge or a vector of vulnerable person who could be parsing disease on to a. so. but of course before they found this on so temporarily will get on to what the government's doing those pandemic already preparing to but surely and our lord canteen if you said that to any of the lords of any persuasion labor liberal democrat or conservative they would completely
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refute it was a political decision what do they tell you none of these labor liberal democrat tories ever said that they deliberately allowed homelessness i don't know as a warning to people to get on their bikes. well i don't know if it was that kind of on your part it was kind of you if you don't if you don't participate in society and become prosperous then this is what can happen to you but what it was it was the failure of liberalism it was the blindness of shame of so human rights abuse to stop people sleeping on the streets when really the biggest human rights abuse was the elect people on the street and people like me who'd been brought sweepers beggars who'd been in the prison system all the problem martin problems of modern post-war britain. are people like me was how i know we shouldn't be allowing people on the streets we should be providing them every party the labor
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party the conservative party all of the parties have construed to see it as a question of well people should have the right to stay on the streets and i. would have died on the streets of the young boy and the young men and decided that i won't decided that i would not allow that action. and as you intimate there average life expectancies are horrendous on the streets here in britain but you call it a human rights abuse britain has so often seen fit to want to make other countries in its own image here saying that money for all these war is a country where a parody taking china to task for hong kong there was a there was a mismatch between british foreign policy and british home bolasie about homelessness. oh there's been
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a mismatch since hundreds of years i mean it's or isn't it interesting that the government of her wilson was handing over braces to the americans and clearing out people from those little islands and so you have these kind of that's her worse in the great socialist so you've always got this kind of we are we are progressive and very apt to rio the seeds and unfortunately many many empires have been like that and britain is no different from the united states and is no different from other countries that have been incredibly were actually in africa or another i mean africa was one of the running souls of modern life because even though these kind of oppressions were happening over 200 years we are still paying the cost of those . of those come situations i don't want to get to logon to the site to talk about
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history and because i'm a i'm a next i'm an ex racist guy the next anti semites i'm the next whatever and when i got out having to go out of poverty and got crime when i got out i started to look very very seriously at the quality of the society that was around me and i've always found it very lacking and the very fact that you know they allow a kind of underclass of people not have a full life is is quite incredible boris johnson who certainly the british prime minister would certainly refute any. argument that rough sweeping and homelessness was this political his government has pledged 236000000 for rough sleeping and the question is i suppose what do you make of accusations that his government stripping out any waiting for deprivation out of distributing emergency cash for councils if. we look at the harsh reality the harsh reality is that
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mr johnson's government was the 1st government to frighten their super lawyers to bring those people indoors now we have to keep those people in goals we cannot decamped back onto the streets and that's one of the person campaigns i got involved in. once we cope in 19 a curfew it started but the next big thing and this is the one that really frightens me i have dealt with an average of between 2 with private 1000 people here in the united kingdom nearly 30 years 29 years what i'm looking at now is probably in the region of 9 haarp a 1000000 people according to the local government association a whole 1000000 people you imagine how a 1000000 people and 800000 of those coming and saying i want to sell the big issue
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so what i'm doing aren't forming alliances and she recession alliance which looks 1st of all banging all objections not the 6 months of the labor party and saying to years until the come we the economy are rewrites or i'm also calling for the creation of a great government bank which will mark prop the bad leases in the bank. and i and i and and and the mogul just can't be paid what we've got to avoid as people becoming homeless because if you become homeless and your family breaks up then you enter the most expensive part of the british system which is the social intervention system which will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds rather than treat people our home our children and our children's children will be out on the streets and that will take 50 years to sort out so what we've got to do is keep people in work so we go. to create work for the job creation schemes that we need
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to work on and we need to work on concrete pool in their homes so they're not directed unfortunately should say though that what you're proposing is actually quite mainstream in the united states joe biden is supported insurance oh well that's very mainstream. mainstream aids you can advocate the problem is deliver the radical thing is you can advocate something revolution resort is actually make this government policy and do it with regard to taking over foreign peoples' homes and. such things like those are very very ideological things the problem with ideology is you then immediately set are an enormous amount of energy that goes into fighting the ideological point and having been through many ideological points are can tell you you can use all your energy
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it's a pen or having a disagreement with your landlord and going to court and spending millions of pounds and pointing at the end of the day that neatly you or your landlord or better or so i don't want to turn down the ideological thing i don't want to do that i generally call them and go and play to the galleries what i want to do is do to liberate none of the political parties have ever delivered to the poorest among us ok well i think we're probably did i was playing to any gallery or john but i'll stop you there more from john byrne after this break plus heads we win tails we win we investigate how if you're a billionaire coronaviruses maybe hundreds of millions of dollars even if more than a $100000.00 of you killed tens of millions are now out of work some of them on american streets frightened by bayonets and u.s. army divisions played a part in killing millions in vietnam all of them are coming about to going underground.
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ah no team no crowd. no shots. let me stress no the 1st. point should be your thirst for action. there was a crack seems to do crack when i was a look at my dad he was like a bust i think so you know i got like what i needed when i was a baby boy i had a bad childhood. there's always playing single mothers and african american
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community service and slavery. i think it's more in chinese teenagers having kids and you can't expect a 14 or 15 year old 1st daughter now old enough for him maybe a father and he said check out. we actually lost our place in october my car end up breaking down and i was unable to get to work on time so they let me go and with my paycheck that i bring home i have barely enough to pay my car insurance. like gas in my car. welcome back i'm still here with big issue found a load should those who have just proportionately suffered from coronavirus those in wook i mean you take in low skilled jobs you are a big man road sweeper delivery man should the government compensate those people
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as a the t.s.s. a union is suggesting for the transport workers and all but state and a chest of. or 'd where your going very pleased somebody is thinking along these lines god bless you carry on are can't count very reason i'm a very simple home educated educated person educated in the streets as a street thug an underclass person who got into the middle classes educated themselves became a socialist and a revolutionary and tried desperately hard to talk about what i know the thing is that there's so much ideological crap going all around at the moment let's show many bradley core ideas but the simple thing is if we can stop people going to and we can give them some kind of work then we have harper 1000000 people
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screaming to sell the big issue because it's the only way to ok well some people have said there is ideology or play the boris johnson old etonian school the eton with. educating is children till september because it is government supported while state school pupils have to go back to school this month. i mean is your future generations bill does it address education in that way what has been termed a class war in education in this country there are not many people like me who ever get into a position of anybody listening to them and what i'm saying is what i have observed i went to a catholic roman catholic school after the 2nd world war it was cold at a secondary modern school and what it was was it was a sign of writing off the last parts of the under under the un skilled and the semi skilled working classes and what they did was they dumped those people like
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rained out the top 11 percent the people the germy call them comes from they took the 11 percent who put them into the into the grammar schools so they created the social divide if you actually look at the history of british education system 2nd world war what you'll see is 35 percent of our children are failed school and because the school. then take report jobs then the people who took up the enemy if you go into the christian system people like me who filed school ended up in the prison system we are the long term unemployed we are the people who are ill we are people who are the work in corps and it is largely because all of the stuff about whether it's the cupboard school system or whether it's the comprehensive system or whatever whether it's the socialist system or the conservative system every one of those lots of people have been elected down the british unskilled working class and
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not help them out into a more skilled situation the fact that britain was a closed imperialist nation they thought that what they would do if they were just in this middle class sort of way and colors on the working class these people what was best for them and what was best for them was to lead them to stoop i can introduce you to. not recovered from the 2nd world war who are now the working poor 3 generations. well just finally then the future generations will recommence many initiatives former british chancellor george osborne says we may need austerity in response to this pandemic far from the kind of investment you're talking about we need for the city of london to prosper a huge reduction in our debt to g.d.p. ratio would you say to those who support our policy. well mr osborne.
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mr osborne other people who are responsible for many many of the. transgressions that were made in the name of austerity i tend to agree with stiglitz and other people who say that the cost to posterity is greater than what it saved so actually what you have is you have posterity austerity which takes generations and generations the worker austerity is too expensive we can't afford to waste money and what mr osborne should do i don't know i know very little about him i've never met him or i would say is austerity is the worst thing that you can do now we have to do what we did in 19. in order to remain. as an alternative to naziism in europe we had to start spending money could
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generations and generation so therefore the 2nd world war was not only got to pee probably years on the 2nd world war the last. second world war and we are going to have to dig deep and borrow and borrow and borrow and get ourselves into a situation where 50 or 60 years time we can sell curried we played with the corona caresses that came in 2020 and mr mr. mr osborne unfortunately this is what happens when you get people who are in incredibly privileged positions in society like these people were never rich suffer from the results of their the actors to see if their policies never stopped work well we invite george osborne now an editor like you of a london although your editor of an international paper he's the editor of a london paper not john thank you. thank you very much.
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well as u.s. protesters demand justice from an arguable racist capitalist elite from l.a. to new york billionaires with businesses from london to moscow have been allegedly profiteering from the pandemic joining me now but scott from boston is co-author of the institute for policy studies report billionaire bonanza 2020 wealth windfalls tumbling taxes and pandemic profiteers omar ok thanks so much omar for coming on i know there's been protests in boston i'm not sure how they've been there around you but on your report you begin it by saying i billionaires disproportionately impact u.s. politics culture and the economy itself they have a huge influence over society that one of the things that we said in the report is that inequality in america is a preexisting condition and this statement really reflects the fact that when there are there is a convulsion in the economy or some type of social problem it does not necessarily
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impact everyone equally at least not at 1st so if fact households and group with the least amount of resources will be often be disproportionately hit will not be able to recover as easily and we saw that and 2008 billionaires are able to recover and exceed their wealth and within a couple of years and that has not been the case for the median household how well have a amazon's jeff bezos or stairs those the loan must be bomber shoulder and microsoft how well are they don't have a coronavirus they've done very well i mean for us the most obvious profits year has been just babies r us his wealth has increased it's like it's mind boggling and he started off the year with $115000000000.00 and net worth but when that report was released it was a $140000000000.00 as of this morning it was close to 150000000000 and so that is
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like basically a $35.00. $1000000000.00 increase within 56 months and that is actually larger than the g.d.p. of iceland and i think this is because the pandemic is playing to all of amazon strengths. they're a large corporation they have a massive wealth so they have the resources to weather the initial hit while small businesses closed up shop and all this is happening at the expense of worker safety amazon refuses to say how many people are out how many of their workers are sick and they fire those who are concerns so and they're reversing hazard pay so basis it's literally making billions of dollars while risking the last of his workforce and hasn't one other person that you know it has made the news recently is this person a man arness garcia. you know he's someone who's being currently sued by his shareholders for using a coronavirus as a way to do some inside insider training trading and his wealth has increased over 4000000000. march 18th well they all deny wrongdoing jeff bezos then
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presumably the great his income boost may be personally in world history did you get the coverage in the washington post owned by jeff bezos and the report. we have not at least not that i've seen fortunately the coverage. in the print i mean stream press and at least the print media has been really good so we've been in roaders business as side or c.n.n. have not seen anything on washington i'm sure it's a coincidence but you know that's the point the billionaires claim they are great philanthropist they donate private planes to help in this pandemic and in fact they have been their great source of a sucker during this coronavirus pandemic and in fact the entropy in general has increased over the last few years but what is unique about it is that it's more top heavy which means that most of the given is done by the wealthy yes and that's because they can pay less in taxes. and i think this differs from the donations
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that you and i would make to like you know a nonprofit or homeless shelter but when the rich do and they do it for that you know tax write offs and sometimes some of the money sometimes the money that they donate is actually not dispersed and this is usually done through a donor advice funds so for example they can put in $100000000.00 into that fund and then get an immediate tax write off and theoretically that money can sit there in that fund indefinitely and it never reaches desired destination basically as you say that would harp of every dollar is at the expense of taxes the democratically accountable to go to social services in any case these tax breaks is also well transfer from the bottom to the top so well and up happening is that i you know when you give. a tax break or are cut their taxes what did it do with their money the right wing usually argues that they invest that money into like the
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productive sectors of the economy but you know we have noticed that you know they often just invest in financial instruments and speculative behavior and also the government usually ends up borrowing money from the people they should be taxing and and that and any government repays that that that loan that they get from the burning through taxation through from everywhere every day people could end up working class a middle class well if we put entirely legitimate tax havens to one side you explain that before trying taxes on the president like the bush's clinton obama taxes paid by billionaires have gone down by around 80 percent between 192018 yeah absolutely and that is like one of the most staggering statistics that we actually had. and this is unfortunate because a number of households that we have here have 0 or negative what they're actually
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increasing. so that 37 percent of african american families and there are 3 percent percent of hispanic families have 0 or negative wealth and that just goes goes to show that you know a rising tide is not lift all boats and you know a decrease in taxes does not actually mean it's better for the economy as a home and that was before trump what do you think billionaires want from joe biden because he's had apparently 100 billionaires donate to his campaign versus 92 for the incumbent donald trump that's actually a really good question i think the main thing that they want is to protect their privileges and be able to you know lower their taxes i think that that the main issue that you know for the billionaire class that main issue that they want is to not have their wealth threatened by any. means so therefore their party going are pressure him to make sure that taxes are not race and if they're going to report is available online just very briefly it not only itemize and explains all of this it
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does suggest ways out of this you're an emergency millionaire 10 percent income tax surtax and also a pandemic profiteering oversight committee i understand. yes it's all. there merge assuming your income surtax is basically a tax of people that would be placed on people who make over $2000000.00 a year which is basically just one percent of the population and that surtax can be kept in place what's pandemic we've estimated that we can raise over $600000000000.00 in 10 years and if we can combine this with other taxes which is like a well tax or more progressive the state tax i think it will help expand opportunity by funding education health care and like other new initiatives like the green new deal and i think that congress should establish a pandemic profiteering committee and enact an excess profits tax because the problem with any economic crisis that large corporations disproportionately benefit
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because their competition goes out of business or they exploit the crisis by raising prices not according to supply and demand principles so that revenues that can be raised from that can be can be given to those who are in need of more acampora thank you thank you very much thank you that's over the shoulder we're back on wednesday 135 years to the day the statue of liberty a blazing with the inscription we are tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free a right to your car but until then wash your hands and join me on the road or following up on you tube twitter facebook instagram and so. we're told the civil unrest in the united states and beyond is about systemic racism we're told western institutions and values are inherently flaunting the other. night to really explain the real evidence of social breakdown what is really
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in play here is an ideology and ideology demands an absolute submission. this drug where her cocaine is where 4 bucks would be under 30 to everybody use cocaine crack cocaine you can smoke it this is worth. 30. 20. score came to this is about a $15.00 bet and people smoke this one go figure so. you go through these drugs in any city in the united states that you walk along as you want to get about the. make money. and that's what i'd be every day.
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welcoming our viewers from around the world to life from central london this is our 2 u.k. . was . the u.k. government promises action against a thuggish subversion of on going on to racism protests after a statue of a british slave is toppled in western. people traveling into the u.k. will not be expected to self isolate for 2 weeks as the home secretary's quarantine plans take effect while 500 company is prepared to take the government to court over the new restrictions i'll be joined by a campaign you know. i don't see it has launched a legal review to force the government to publish the results of exercise cygnets
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which tested how prepared the u.k. was for a pandemic we hear from the doctor himself. plans to reopen the public goldman's could be brought. forward to june the 22nd as the prime minister faces calls to rescue the hospitality sector always talking to a bar right now. thousands of people defied the government's warning to stay at home this weekend as more than a dozen black lives mokhtar protests took place across the u.k. while many were peaceful clashes between some demonstrators and police in london led boris johnson to say the movement had been subverted by thuggery and in bristol events escalated as the statue of a british slaver was toppled or for more on the weekends demonstrations i'm now joined by our 2 you case in. other recent you were at the london demonstration on
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sunday was it subverted by thuggish elements. or we saw on sunday was a protest of course one of many taking place around the world in the wake of the killing of george floyd in the usa now and that protests began at the u.s. embassy in london just on the banks of the river thames and the people attending that were at least $15000.00 people in attendance according to one police source that i spoke to possibly even law and the march went off without any violence until it reached the. area of parliament square and downing street even then things were quite normal people were sitting outside downing street or sitting outside parliament street making a trance and so on but then later in the evening when the crowd started to thin tensions increase between those in the crowd and the police the police were seen on
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some occasions going into the crowd trying to make arrests that then seemed to provoke some type of backlash by people throwing. bottles and other things at the police and resulting in clashes up and down a white hall and a number of arrests were made in the evening however it's so outside of london as well where as some of the headlines have been got it would culls that he was a slave trader in the 16 hundreds one of his statues which has long been the subject of people making petitions and counting time it removed while those campaigns the lack so protesters took matters into their own hands taking it out throwing it into the bristol harbor it was an action that was condemned by the home secretary pretty purcell who said that the united needed to be investigated well i think that it actually gets quite well and that big caveat that they thought a puppet difficult but actually they have now become a construction on the core thing which people are actually actively protest and
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about. now of course not everybody was sad to see the back of a slave traders statue kids started the labor leader perhaps trying to not take any position on any side and tried to be a bit nuanced saying that the stats you shouldn't have been there in the 1st place but condemning what he said was the criminal damage which took place to have it removed completely wrong to cut you down not now but stepping back that statue should have been brought down a long time should've been taken down a long long time ago now and there of bristol martin recently he has he's the 1st black mayor of the city a city that has a long history with colonialism and slavery and he said that monuments such as that shouldn't have been there in the 1st place reflecting
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a long campaign as i mentioned earlier by the people of the city to have it removed and also saying that arguments that the statue is part of somehow people's history is accurate saying that statues only are there to glorify people and 21st century boots it shouldn't be glorifying slave owners. is there ali thank you very much indeed for joining us thank you. and in the next hour i'll be discussing these issues with a lawyer and activist ought to show that most show. well have secretaries could quarantine plans to come into effect in the u.k. requiring international travelers to self isolate the 2 weeks amid concerns about the financial impact it will have on the aviation industry as a 3rd of the british public think the government hasn't gone far enough when it comes to the war travel restrictions aussie acacia epistatic joins me now with the latest. so shabby quarantine rules for international travelers have come into
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effect this monday have a bay absolutely of course it's another attempt to try and keep the number down and stop the spread of the virus so today home secretary pretty patel's plans of corn to come into place and essentially affect anybody coming almost anybody coming into the united kingdom be it by plane train or ferry as soon as they come into british soil they'll have to self isolate for up to 14 days as soon as they arrive they'll be asked to give the contact details particularly where they'll be isolating if at any point in time they'll be subject to a spot check if they're not seem to be within that property they could also face a fine of up to a 1000 pounds however there are some groups that are exempt from this quarantine plans and that it also includes those that live within the common travel area that includes people from the republic of ireland the channel islands of plants also exempt health workers who are providing important essential care people who work as
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road toward us and fart workers as well as seasonal agricultural workers and people who reside in the u.k. the travel abroad at least once a week for work purposes now many say though these quarantine measures that have to be ludicrous for various various reasons including the fact that they could be at some point unimplementable because those people coming off the planes trains or ferries they'll have to get on public transport to reach that ultimate destination the government doesn't rise alternative travel. reasonings however that can't be implemented on british soil then of course the very fact that some groups are exempt and then a key issue of the timing of all of this and many would say it's too little too late and that these policies should have been implemented way at the beginning of the lockdown of course we only have to look across the channel to our european counterparts to see that they already implemented this quarantine weeks and weeks
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if not. months ago and in some cases they're already seeing the easing and lifting of these restrictive measures for the united kingdom we're just at day one but most interestingly it's the government's advisors now they are the ones that have long been the ones of vising government policy all based on science and medical experts however these guys are the ones saying that actually the current team makes no sense and won't be affective however despite the criticism there is a poll that says a 3rd of people want the government to be even tougher on those traveling from a broad with just over 40 percent thinking the restrictions go far enough with just over a 3rd disagreeing now a staggering 73 percent said they would not feel safe on a plane with just under 30 percent saying that they would in terms of a saw summer holiday then just under 60 percent would be booking a trip this year while 15 percent said they would travel within the u.k.
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nearly the same percentage said that they would go abroad now we've also seen a pushback coming from within the u.k. mainly from conservative tory backbenchers who are particularly concerned with the economy interestingly spearheaded by theresa may the former prime minister they would prefer other med measures like bridges which are essentially bilateral agreements with other european countries to allow citizens to move particularly in areas where there are numbers are lower now of course when it comes to the economy the industry that will suffer the most is the travel and tourism industry and today $500.00 companies they've launched a legal bit a legal back to meaning these restrictive measures will essentially be battled out in court now these campaigners are under of course the quarantine campaign and what they want to do is the united kingdom to completely scrap the quarantine measures but the kid issues for them though not only is it all based on consumer confidence
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whether or not people be booking holidays will people actually be able to commit to a 14 day quarantine period but as i say consumer confidence is the main issue quarantine or not. chad yes thank you very much indeed. but to discuss the restrictions are now joined by a travel consultant and one of those legal challenges paul chiles paul thank you for joining us what do you have to achieve by launching legal action against the government. so fundamentally the government doesn't have the scientific evidence to prove why the core of the measure should be coming in at least we've asked for that evidence and it hasn't been published we've seen no firm support from its own advisory group of scientists say and the quarantine measures themselves are coming in a time when countries around the neighbors have much lower our rate than the u.k. the so it doesn't make any sense to bring in the quarantine measures right now they
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should have been brought in in early march when the wisest countries in the world did so took the action early and are the results of benefits of from much lower case numbers the nikkei has overcome $1000.00 would be that if people don't quarantine for 2 weeks the u.k. could be at risk of a 2nd wave of the virus so in that effect i mean wouldn't it be more detrimental were there to be a 2nd wave of for the aviation industry. well at some point you have to get the economy moving again there could be a 2nd wave that could be a 3rd wave the 4th wave a 5th ways but what point do you actually fix on the economy to make sure that people have jobs so that they can pay taxes to pay for the health care system to be good enough in a 2nd wave or a 3rd wave if you just through the frame that like the travel and tourism and hospitality is that it's not going to help deliver the the economic benefits that britain's going to need in the future so you can hang around for
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a long time waiting for a vaccine that may never come but if you don't let that get going again then you're not going to benefit long term no country will live like that the government does have all given the plans a flexible and can be reviewed every 3 weeks is that enough. well there are so flexible they're badly thought out the the wrong workable plans as we've heard call a thought out there economically damaging because what the very word quarantine does is frighten people it means they don't book trips business or leisure to travel abroad because they're worried about having to be quarantined for 14 days on their you're right there are 30 holes in their policy. including when people arrive back at the natural for example they could then go home on public transport or they could spread coronavirus symptoms to other people without knowing they can they are then free to go to a pharmacy or supermarket and to move around and in fact there aren't enough border
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for possible to be able to please the policy anyway so it's full of holes it's on workable there are alternatives that the government can introduce unordered quarantine is doing is financially damaging the fence but also in terms of finance and the economy as well one key point is the confidence of the public who are traveling one poll found that more than a 3rd of the public think that the government should have been tougher how do you reassure people. well i think in a poll you can ask people about current and i suspect that most people would think of this in terms of those coming into the u.k. rather than you case that has been going out and having to quarantine on their way back so i think there's been a misinterpretation of the call by the government at the end of the day as the case numbers come down more people should be allowed freedom of movement to move around to visit friends and relatives and ultimately get along with their lives we mustn't be glib about coronavirus of course that there is a core that i've been far too many desk in the u.k.
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and elsewhere but you have to get the economy moving if you're to have a travel and transport that through a toll in the future there are going to be thousands of job losses anyway what we're saying is you need to try and remove the numbers keep the numbers low let's bring down the numbers affected in terms of redundancies and let's get going on our economy again well charles thank you very much for joining us. now let's look at the coronavirus figures from across the u.k. according to official government figures the u.k. death toll has reached $40597.00 with $55.00 of the fatalities reported since sunday it's the lowest number since last down began however experts say monday figures tend to be low it you 2 delays in weekend reporting as old monday
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n.h.s. england house reporting 59 hospital deaths while the welsh council sorties have been 43 deaths across. scotland the northern ireland reported no deaths. and now let's see how the pandemic sounds globally. the number of infections is not pause to 7000000 according to worldwide data collected by johns hopkins university in the us more than 400000 people have died while the total number of recoveries currently stands at just over 3100000. still to come the sound. of gardens could be opened in 2 weeks as reports claim number 10 faces pressure to stop the hospitality sector before salma i'll be talking to. an adult to launches a legal review to publish the results of operation sickness bridge tested how
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i don't know crap. no shots. can actually help me. let's try build the 1st one. point she your thirst for action. welcome back adult to has launched
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a legal review off to the government refused to publish the findings of a secret simulation which tested how prepared the u.k. was for a pandemic if successful it would force the government to publish the full findings of exercise sickness broad conclusions from the simulation really last months and revealed the government had been aware of the impact of pandemic. quite how on care homes the department of health currently refuses to publish the results on the grounds it could jeopardize civil servants ability to speak in private without fear of repercussions or for all this i'm now joined by the doctor behind the judicial review doc to do so correctly don't ever actually thank you for joining us why have you decided to launch this judicial review. well thank you very much for having me just to say that i have launched this tradition of you with tommy green who's a journalist so there's a 2 of us together a launching this judicial review and what we really feel is the legal case is about forcing the british government to disclose information which can help the health care and scientific communities. fight effectively against kobe 1000 have the
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information they need to do that and in addition to give the public the opportunity to participate democratic democratically into policymaking decision making during this terrible challenge that we all face as a country where the government say it's pandemic planning was for a flu outbreak so even if it followed the advice it would be useful to get a corona virus outbreak. that's interesting that the government is making that claim because the government's own ministers and m.p.'s have categorically and repeatedly stated that they have used the data from the sickness exercise to inform their current policy in managing covert 19 and in fact in for instance drawing up the current virus act which has been so important in managing this pandemic and in addition. although it's true they're different viruses they're both single stranded r.n.a. viruses that they're both responder tree viruses and they both have
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a very high replication value so this means that management of this kind of disease is that has a lot of the kind of common themes so for instance protective equipment for both health care workers and the public is incredibly important in both the chrono virus and an influenza pandemic and i.c.u. care and managing community transmission these are all things that are very common between both both types of virus and therefore we have absolutely sure that the sickness exercise is highly relevant for the current pandemic we're in but i would also say the gist of the report has already been leaked what more do you think could be innit. well have who knows what's in it what what we do know is that the leak just touched on really communication is hughes between for instance how to communicate with the public we know that the sickness exercise was actually a multi agency exercise and it's actually incorrect to speak about the sickness report we know that there were multiple reports and those particularly have not
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been disclosed in particular the report that's been leaked says almost nothing about the protective equipment about ventilated capacity and one of the most interesting features i think of this pandemic and one of the most tragic beaches is how badly it's affected the nonwhite population of the united kingdom and of the united states in particular and we know that public health england in 2015 published data which showed that in previous pandemics for instance the h one n one influenza pandemic in 2009 the asian community was disproportionately affected so one of the questions we'd like to know for instance is you know did cygnus analyze use did cygnus and did they realize that you know from looking at all the previous pandemic data that the black community asian community was at significant risk anything they realized that what did they do about it following the findings of the sequence exercise selecting step dr mr correctly thank you for joining us thank you. now 27 leading
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medics and scientists are calling for an urgent covert 900 inquiry before the anticipated 2nd wave of the virus it's the u k. if as seems probable there is a 2nd wave this winter many more will die unless we find quick practical solutions to some of the structural problems that have made implementing an effective response so difficult we call on all political parties to commit to a rapid transparent experts inquiry to address these issues this must avoid diverting the efforts of those desponding to the crisis or portioning blame but should propose feasible ways to overcome the obstacles faced by those on the front line of the response and help them to save lives where warning that a fresh wave of the virus in winter could kill many more if the government doesn't address the problems that have made their response more difficult this includes the fragmentation of the n.h.s. public health and social care or more on this issue i'll be joined in the next hour
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by one of the signatories of the letter. now pub gardens in england could be set to reopen as early as june the 22nd as the prime minister reportedly faces mounting pressure to kick start the hospitality sector it follows a warning that up to 3 point $5000000.00 hospitality jobs could be at stake the proposals thought have been drawn up by a group of ministers dubbed the save some a 6 were some pubs with outdoor areas to start serving again the government is also facing calls to harper to meet a social distancing rule is hospitality cheap say the current rules are workable for businesses. but in this office i'm not joined by the owner of the bar behind this war that's alex harris alex thank you for joining us signs of life returning go for the hospitality sector are you relieved. i'm relieved moments. positions as much so would probably prefer that we were only in shorts it's real
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sort. well hospitality industry may be on the brink of collapse as some people are claiming but is it the u.k. itself ready to risk opening to say and i think what i think you know there's no real guidance at the moment as to. the safety with regards to my part which you reference is very small it's underground so we don't benefit from any outdoor seating so i wouldn't be able to use this proposed plan that the government have in play apparently for the 22nd of june however you know is we we're here to serve all of the health and safety measures that require it's once we are open but if we have one person who has a sense much to come back. it could be very dangerous for all the other patrons when looking at those plans that i mean harding to me to say show distances to one meet i mean how much of a tips difference would that make for pubs and bars especially those who would quite small establishment right think a large a space is obviously that's going to be
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a big boon that was flowing on the weekend from kate nichols who's the head of u.k. hospitality 'd who said i think if they reduce the sumi says to one meets then try to pass the coast for 30 percent up 70 however 1st smaller venues which is very common in the area where i know across london. i think it would be closer to 5 percent sumeet is maybe 251 meter so we're still looking a pretty scary outlook. very unlikely that we'd be able to trade with any form of profit and would probably be looking at insolvency quite shortly after reopening without any support but i said i was going to say how much the board is there for buyers like us which don't haven't done us basis well received a grant which was obviously a big up in a fit we got 10 k. because quite small follow schemas of us going to huge lifeline to the sector and that was the thing that we were most worried about at the beginning all that we really resolved now is the issue regarding rents you know we hope that's. landlords
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outlanders up governance their own so we are pushing hard for the government to address this issue especially for businesses such as mine that won't be out with the benefit of out of place and something a lot of alec's what more should the government be doing to help you think we think a moratorium that would be in play for for rents that would protect landlords and protect business owners such as myself just and so we can get trade again would be very welcome realistically we're going to need some kind of stabilization and so we're at the trading at 100 percent and this is this is an industry it's worth noting the trades of very very small margins you've got a lot of passionate people working in. what maybe if you're lucky at 1015 percent profit margin so there are other issues that the government can probably help with such as cuts the v 8 c. business rates to sort of be put in but i mean there's there's there's there's a lot of work that needs to be done before we actually see real roadmaps recovery
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