the day. they were going underground as derek chervin charged with the murder of george floyd that sparked uprisings across the western world makes his 1st appearance at a court in minneapolis this on the 52nd anniversary of the london arrest of james earl ray guilty of the assassination of dr martin luther king jr which catalyzed the greatest wave of social unrest in the united states since the civil war coming up in the show as protesters in the u.s. and u.k. call for the new liberal governments to tackle the roots of systemic injustice we ask big issue found a lot but how boris johnson was able to all of the soul of homelessness over night in response to the ruin of iras and the homeless because there's always been the

lead to political choice revealed by covert 1000 making the rich only as strong as society's most vulnerable and while protesters in the u.s. battle injustice against racial capitalism in the hands of a militant for these forces what does happen to the wealth of billionaires. we ask the author of billionaire bonanza 2020 omar ocampo about how billionaires are profiting off a pandemic while millions have the bread on all of them all coming up in today's going underground but 1st against the backdrop of protests against oppression in the u.k. mirroring the full scale uprisings taking place in the united states the british government's crude a virus response still appears to be falling well short of what is needed with over 60000 deaths and rising while health experts on the alarm on another arguably anemic contact tracing system so is it any wonder that some who have campaigned their whole lives for equality and i'm looking for a way to not just recover from grown a virus but to reform the entire system so tragedies on this scale can never happen

again one of those campaign is lord john bird found. her of u.k. homeless charity magazine the big issue has introduced a bill into parliament that aims not only to limit the effects of coronavirus on future generations but to revolutionize society in the manner of climate that is 945 government that suited the creation of the n.h.s. he joins me now via skype from cambridge in england thank you so much for coming back on lord john birt i've got to ask you obviously given that you've a campaign about the big issue the name of your magazine all your life it seems the government was able to solve the big issue overnight when it came to a pandemic does this mean that all these years it was a political decision to have homelessness in this country. it was a political decision it was a decision made in the late 19th fifty's and the 19th sixty's to instill not allowing people to be on the streets because of the laws which were cool vagrancy

laws which were victorian and made it look as though you were being very hard and tough on the poorest people who ended up on the street so nobody was allowed to sleep rough argues a rough sleeper time so i know all about that what happened was 'd the laws were not changed but people politically different needs to know we're not going to bring people off the streets we're not going to take them to call rough treatment for begging we're going just going to completely ignore it but the problem was they didn't replace it with anything else so what looked like a very liberal well intentioned of look let's not punish the poorest among us they killed them and since then we've had many many deaths on the streets we've had an increasing amount of people on the streets so the oboist spent all of the energy and chance has the people with problems of ended up on the streets or mental

institutions were closed so that happened children coming out to care in the community look who authorities care often ends up in the streets people who served in the armed forces and the producers and what it was was the streets became a place where people said let's just ignore it let's just not actually engage and lead the pandemic some people realize of course that every speck to your position in the social hierarchy cracking or that if if you are ill you are ill and you could cross on to something else so suddenly the government wakes up to the reality that every last one of those human beings who are on the streets are a baby or a vector or vulnerable person who could be parsing disease on to a. so. but of course before they found this on so temporarily will get on to what the government's doing post pandemic already preparing to but surely endows lord canteen if you said that to any of the lords of

any persuasion labor liberal democrat or conservative they would completely refute it was a political decision what do they tell you none of these labor liberal democrat tories ever said that they deliberately allowed homelessness i don't know is a warning to people to get on their bikes. well i don't know if it was that kind of on your part it was kind of you if you don't if you don't participate in society and become prosperous then this is what can happen to you but what it was it was the failure of liberalism it was the blindness of shame of so human rights abuse to stop people sleeping on the streets when really the biggest human rights abuse was the elect people on the street and people like me who had been brought sweepers beggars who'd been in the prison system who had been into all the problems martin problems of modern post-war britain. are people like me was how i

know we shouldn't be allowing people on the street we should be providing for them every party the labor party the conservative party all of the parties have construed to see it as a question of well people should have the right to stay on the streets and i. would have died on the streets of the young boy and the young men and decided that i won't decided that i would not allow that action. and as you intimate there average life expectancies are horrendous on the streets here in britain but you call it a human rights abuse britain has so often seen fit to want to make other countries in its own image here saying that money for all these war is currently where a parent be taking china to task for hong kong there was a there was

a mismatch between british foreign policy and british home policy about homelessness . oh there's been a mismatch since hundreds of years i mean it's or isn't it interesting that the government of her wilson was handing over braces to the americans and clearing out people from those little islands and so you have these kind of that's her worst in the great socialist so you've always got this kind of we are we are progressive home and where you have to reopen seeds and unfortunately many many empires have been like that and britain is no different from the united states and is no different from other countries that have been incredibly were actually in africa or another i mean africa was one of the running souls of modern life because even though these kind of oppressions were happening over 200 years we are still paying the cost of those. of those from the situations i don't want to get to logon to the

site to talk about history and because i'm a i'm a next i'm an ex racist or the next anti semites i'm the next whatever and when i got out having to go out of poverty and got crime when i got out i started to look very very seriously at the quality of the society that was around me and i've always found it very lacking and the very fact that you know they allow a kind of underclass of people not have a full life is is quite incredible boris johnson who certainly the british prime minister would certainly refute any. hug him and bit rough sleeping and homelessness was this political his government has pledged 236000000 for rough sleeping and the question is i suppose what do you make of accusations that his government stripping out any waiting for deprivation out of distributing

emergency cash for councils if. we look at the harsh reality the harsh reality is that mr johnson's government was the 1st government to frighten their super lawyers to bring those people indoors now we have to keep those people in goals we cannot decamped back onto the streets and that's one of the person campaigns i got involved in. once we cope and 19 a curfew it started but the next big thing and this is the one that really frightens me i have dealt with on average of between 2 with private 1000 people here in the united kingdom nearly 30 years 229 years what i'm looking at now is probably in the region of 9 harp a 1000000 people according to the local government association

a whole 1000000 people you imagine how a 1000000 people and 800000 of those coming and saying i want to sell the big issue so what i'm doing aren't forming alliances and she recession alliance which looks 1st of all banning all objections not because it's months as the labor party is saying but to years until become the the economy or rewrite or i'm also calling for the creation of a great government bank which will mark propped up by eric leases in the bank. and i and i and and and the mogul just can't be paid what we've got to avoid as people becoming homeless because if you become homeless and your family breaks up then you enter the most expensive part of the british system which is the social intervention system which will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds rather than treat people our home our children our children's children more be out on the streets and that will take 50 years to sort out so what we've got to do is keep

people in work so we go. to create work for the job creation schemes that we need to work on and we need to work on concrete pool in their homes so they're not objective unfortunately should say though that what you're proposing is actually quite mainstream in the united states joe biden has supported insurance oh well that's very mainstream. mainstream aids you can advocate the problem is deliver the radical thing is you can advocate something revolution resort is actually make this government policy and do it with regard to taking over foreign peoples homes and and such things like those are very very ideological things the problem with ideology is you then immediately set up an enormous amount of energy that goes into fighting the ideological point and having

been through many ideological points are can tell you you can use all your energy it's a pen or having a disagreement with your landlord and going to court and spending millions of pounds and pointing at the end of the day that neatly you or your landlord or better or so i don't want to turn down the ideological thank god i want to do let me call them and go and play to the galleries what i want to do is do to liberate none of the political parties have ever delivered to the poorest among us ok well i think we're probably did i was playing to any gallery or john but i'll stop you there more from john byrne after this break plus heads we win tails we win we investigate how if you're a billionaire coronaviruses maybe hundreds of millions of dollars even if more than a $100000.00 of you killed tens of millions are now out of work some of them on american streets running by bayonets and u.s.

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welcome back i'm still here with a big issue found should those who have disproportionately suffered from coronavirus those even wook i mean you've taken low skill jobs you were a big man road sweeper delivery man should the government compensate those people as a the t.s.s. a union is suggesting for the transport workers and compensate and a chest of. well where you're going i'm very pleased somebody stringent along these lines got pleasure in. our can't take care of everything on the very simple home educated educated person educated in the streets as a street thug an underclass person in the middle class is educated themselves became a socialist and a revolutionary and i've tried just pretty hard to talk about what i know the thing is that there's so much ideological crap going on around at the moment let's show

many branka like yours but the simple thing is if we can stop people pain. and we can give them some kind of work well how up a 1000000 people screaming to so they can see because it's the only alternative to ok well some people have said there is ideology at play in the boris johnson old etonian school intern with. educating his children till september because it is government supported while state school pupils have to go back to school this month. i mean is your future generations' bill does it address education in that way what has been termed a class war in education in this country there are not many people white men who ever get into a position of anybody listening to them and what i'm saying is what i have observed i went to a catholic roman catholic school after the 2nd world war it was cold at

a secondary modern school and what it was was it was a sign of writing off the last parts of the under under the un skilled and the semi skilled working classes and what they did was they dumped those people like rained out the top 11 percent the people the germy call them comes from they took the 11 percent who put them into the into the grammar schools so they created the social divide if you actually look at the history of british education system the 2nd world war what you'll see is 35 percent of our children are failed school because the school. then take report jobs then the people who took up the air uni if you go into the christian system people like me who filed school ended up in the prison system we are the long term unemployed we are the people who are ill we are people who are the work in court and it's largely because all of the stuff about

whether it's the cupboard school system or whether it's the comprehensive system or whatever whether it's the socialist system or the conservative system every one of those lots of people have relaxed down the british i'm still working class and not help them out into a more skilled situation the fact that britain was a closed imperialist nation they thought that what they would do is they would just in this middle class or way impose on the working class these people what was best for them and what was best for them was to lead them to stew i can introduce you to . not recovered from the 2nd world war who are now the working poor 3 generations well just finally then the future generations will recommence many initiatives former british chancellor george osborne says we may need austerity in response to this pandemic far from the kind of investment you're talking about we need for the

city of london to prosper a huge reduction in our debt to g.d.p. ratio would you say to those who support our policy. well mr osborne. mr osborne other people who are responsible for many many of the. transgressions that were made in the name of austerity i tend to agree with stiglitz and other people who say that the cost of austerity is greater than what is saved so actually what you have is you have posterity austerity which takes generations and generations to work or austerity is too expensive we can't afford to waste money and what mr osborne should do i know i know very little about him i've never met him or i would say is austerity is the worst thing that you can do

now we have to do what we did in 19. in order to remain. as an alternative to naziism in europe we had to start spending money could generations and generation so therefore the 2nd world war was not only got 55 years of the 2nd world war the last. second world war and we are going to have to dig deep and borrow and borrow and borrow and get ourselves into a situation where 50 or 60 years time we can sell curried we played with the corona kharaj came in 2020 and mr mr. mr osborne unfortunately this is what happens when you get people who are in incredibly privileged positions in society like these people will never suffer from the results of their the accuracy of their policies never stop wealth we invite george

osborne now an editor like you of a london although your editor of an international paper he's the editor of a london paper no drama thank you. thank you very much. well as u.s. protesters demand justice from an arguable racist capitalist elite from l.a. to new york billionaires with businesses from london to moscow have been allegedly profiteering from the pandemic joining me now from boston is co-author of the institute for policy studies report billionaire bonanza 2020 wealth windfalls tumbling taxes and pandemic profiteers omar ok thanks so much omar for coming on i know there's been protests in boston i'm not sure how they've been there around you but on your report you begin it by saying i billionaires disproportionately impact the u.s. politics culture and the economy itself they have a huge influence over society that one of the things that we said in the report is

that inequality in america is a preexisting condition and this statement really reflects the fact that when there are there is a convulsion in the economy or some type of social problem it does not necessarily impact everyone equally at least not at 1st so in fact households and group with the least amount of resources will be often be disproportionately hit will not be able to recover as easily and we saw that and 2008 bernie as we're able to recover and exceed their wealth and within the couple of years and that has not been the case for the median household how well have a amazon's jeff bezos tells those the loan must be bomber shoulder and microsoft how well are they don't have a coronavirus they've done very well sol i mean for us the most obvious profits here has been just days owes his wealth has increased it's like it's mind boggling and he started off the year with $115000000000.00 and net worth but when that

report was released it was a $140000000000.00 as of this morning it was close to 150000000000 and so that is like basically a $35.00. $1000000000.00 increase within 56 months and that is actually larger than the g.d.p. of iceland and i think this is because the pandemic is playing to all of amazon strengths. they are a large corporation they have a massive wealth so they have the resources to weather the initial hit while small businesses closed up shop and all this is happening at the expense of worker safety amazon refuses to say how many people are out how many of their workers are sick and they fire those who are concerns so and they're reversing hazard pay so basis it's literally making billions of dollars but risking the last of his workforce hasn't one other person that you know that has made the news recently is this person a man arness garcia. you know he's someone who's being currently sued by his shareholders

for using a coronavirus as a way to do some inside insider training trading and his wealth has increased over 4000000. march 18th well they all deny wrongdoing jeff bezos then presumably the great his income boost may be personal in world history did you get the coverage in the washington post owned by jeff bezos and the reports. we have not at least not that i've seen fortunately the coverage. in the print i mean stream press in at least the print media has been really good so we've been in roaders business and cider c.n.n. have not seen anything on washington i'm sure it's a coincidence but you know that's the point the billionaires claim they are great philanthropist they donate private planes to help in this pandemic and in fact they have been their great source of a sucker during this coronavirus pandemic and in fact philanthropy in general has

increased over the last few years but what is unique about it is that it's more top heavy which means that most of the given is done by the wealthy yes and that's because they can pay less in taxes. and i think this differs from the donations that you and i would make to like you know a nonprofit or homeless shelter but when the rich do and they do it for that you know tax write offs and sometimes some of the money sometimes the money that they donate is actually not dispersed and this is usually done through a donor advice funds so for example they can put in $100000000.00 into that fine and then get an immediate tax write off and theoretically that money can sit there in that fund indefinitely and it never reaches desired destination basically as you say the word heart of every dollar is at the expense of taxes the democratically accountable to go to social services in any case these tax breaks is also a wealth transfer from the bottom to the top so well and up happening is that you

know when you give. a tax break or are cut their taxes what did it do with their money the right wing usually argues that they invest that money into like the productive sectors of the economy but you know we have noticed that you know they often just invest in financial instruments and speculative behavior and off the government usually ends up borrowing money from the people they should be taxing and and out and any government repays that that that loan that they get from the burning through taxation through from everywhere every day people could end up working class a middle class well if we put entirely legitimate tax havens to one side you explain that before trying taxes on the president like the bush's clinton obama taxes paid by billionaires have gone down by around 80 percent between 192018 yeah absolutely and that is like one of the. most staggering statistics that we actually

had. and this is unfortunate because a number of households that we have here have 0 or negative what they're actually increasing. so like 37 percent of african-american families and there are 3 percent percent of hispanic families have 0 or negative wealth and that just goes goes to show that you know a rising tide is not lift all boats and you know a decrease in taxes does not actually mean there's one from joe biden because he's had apparently 100 billionaires donate to his campaign versus 92 for the incumbent donald trump and that's actually a really good question i think the main thing that they want is to protect their privileges and be able to you know lower their taxes i think that that the main issue that you know for the billionaire class that main issue that they want is to not have their wealth threatened by any. means so therefore their part in our

pressure him to make sure that taxes are not racing if the government report is available online just very briefly it not only itemize and explains all of this it does suggest ways out of this you're an emergency millionaire 10 percent income tax surtax and also a pandemic profiteering oversight committee i understand. yes so. demerge assuming your income surtax is basically a tax that could be that would be placed on people who make over $2000000.00 a year which is basically just one percent of the population and that surtax can be kept in place puts pandemic we've estimated that we can raise over $600000000000.00 in 10 years and if we can combine this with other taxes which is like a well tax or more progressive the state tax i think it will help expand opportunity by funding education health care and like other new initiatives like the green new deal and i think that congress should establish

a pandemic profiteering committee and enact an excess profits tax because the problem with any economic crisis that large corporations disproportionately benefit because their competition goes out of business or they exploit the crisis by raising prices not according to supply and demand principles so the revenues that can be raised from that can be can be given to those who are in need of more camber thank you thank you very much thank you that's over the shoulder we're back on wednesday 135 years to the day the statue of liberty ablaze with the inscription we are tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free a right to your car until then and wash your hands and join me on the road or following up on you tube twitter facebook instagram and so on. we're told the civil unrest in the united states and beyond is about systemic racism we're told western institutions and values are inherently flawed in the

wrong. neither really explained the real evidence of social breakdown but is really in play here is an ideology an ideology the demands an absolute submission. we go to work you stay home.

and your. welcoming of years from around the world live from central london this is off to u.k. . government promises action against a fetish subversion of ongoing come to racism protests after a statue of a british slave trade has toppled in bristol i'll be talking to equality campaign. bell secretary defends the government's decision to introduce quarantine now which will see people travelling into the u.k. self isolating for 2 weeks that saw some of the government's scientific advisor is reportedly distanced themselves from the move. and plans to reopen pub gobbles could be brought forward to june 22nd as the prime minister faces calls to rescue the hospitality sector i'll be talking to

a hotel in pub. thousands of people define the government's warning to stay at home this weekend as more than a dozen black clubs much to protest took place across the u.k. while many were peaceful trashes between some demonstrators and police in london led boris johnson to say the movement had been subverted by thuggery. i think. if there's. a. way. i.

am. i was 6 or. where that's was staged around the u.k. with a protest in bristol escalating as a statue of a slave trader was toppled all to you casey isa rally house will. well what we saw yesterday in the protest in response to the killing of george florida in the united states was a large which began inside the american embassy and one sudden march took place in the early afternoon protesters numbering around $15000.00 or even more according to one police source i spoke to added over the bridge towards part of the square and

downing street where the protesters gathered and it was all peaceful until later in the evening when crowds began to sit out and number of people began to see that they were getting cattle in by the police we started to see tensions rising with some protests story of bottles and bricks and when police attempted to make arrests in some cases police being chased down whitehall until they were backed up by the territorial support group in essence to the element of the metropolitan police who are more trained to deal with that and so you know we did see some clashes some skirmishes quite as intense as the ones we saw on saturday where police charged into protesters on their horses and one horse bolting as a result of people throwing missiles and we saw footage of somebody one of the police officers being really flung into

a traffic light by horse and now we have seen a report response by the government with boris johnson as you mentioned and putting it down to study every and saying that what is an overwhelmingly and legitimate process being infiltrated or taken over as he said by elements that perhaps don't have to assess his best interests at heart at the height of the dollar a set price impressed on sunday didn't it yes absolutely in brazil we've seen those images coming out of the statue of edward cole's tonight because there was somebody who was a slave owner in the. eckstein hundreds and lot of the wealthy made was made off the back of the slave trade and he had a statue which had been raised for him because bristol hunting a long heritage in history troubled one if you will with colonialism slavery and that statue's been the subject of many many campaigns petitions and political

campaigns to try to have it removed they've all failed but the test is are we can took matters into their own hands they troops and they dragged the statue down and then rolled it across the street incensed threw it into the harbor and now there are many who welcomed that among scientists racism campaigners but pretty would sell now the secretary didn't see it that way and said now that pulling down of the statue of the slave owner was and how it's disgraceful well i think that if a plebiscite fell and that big to be at the 5th or the puppet difficulty that actually it has now become a construction on the core thing which people are actually actively protest in about now the labor leader kissed starmer didn't really commit himself to any position either way saying that on the one hand that statue shouldn't have been that it also condemning the fact that it was pulled down the way that it was completely wrong. but stepping back that statue should have been brought down

a long time should've been taken down a long long time ago now that statue as i mentioned has been the subject of political campaigns which have failed up until now but the mayor of bristow marvin reste no he said that that statue was innocence to brewer fire a slave owner it wasn't just for history as some people have been making the argument to already see repercussions culson hold the music venue in bristol and have said that they intend to change then and a girls' school. with the name of edward coles and also said that they will be taking down the structure that they have it's own the school traumas so already we can see the example regimes of the protests actions having an impact with some of those institutions named after edward colson now trying to disassociate themselves with those problematic elements of the past well meanwhile the home secretary has

also given a statement on the legality of protests pretty brutal underline the u.k. government's view that while protests are illegal right the current situation means they shouldn't go ahead the right to come together and express our views peacefully remains one of the cornerstones of alak right democracy. members across this house share ensuring commitment to uphold liberty and freedom of expression but under the basis of respect in the local. but as our nation baffles coronavirus these are not normal circumstances so to protect us all and to stop the spread of this deadly disease any large gatherings of people are copy on the awful so was it right to remove the statue of edward colston in this way i'll not want to debate this i was joined earlier by london assembly member david curtain and writer and activist jackie walker. why people should want to defend having

a statue of a man who represents the genocide of my ancestors and i would ask and i would ask your next speak would he defend having for example the commandant of a japanese prison camp who had been responsible for $20000.00 plus english deaths what do you defend the statue being kept up there no that's not the point the point is we have to be actually sane to have justice done for all people wherever they are and i think many people have heard of it what caused them before is that she came down in bristol yesterday look i understand the strong feelings around that he was a slave trader in the 17th century 300 years ago because of what he did tens of thousands of people were brutalized and tortured and their lives are made a living hell i understand that absolutely but there are democratic means to

putting up statues and taking down statues and it shouldn't have been done in that way you can go to a statue you can shout into the air all you like you can say whatever you want but it's against the law to vandalize statues and buildings and it's against the law to tear things down if you want to tear something down if you want to remove something you do with the democratic process because otherwise where is this going to end with the protest in bristol that's gone from the past and look towards the future that when the processed in bristol have been a great opportunity to force a concession to get it removed without what's going to be seen as not just us for instance people have been campaigning for decades to have that statue removed they have the north certainly today a skull and a concert hall had decided to remove both the name and the memorial isolation of this match into the genocide we have campaigned for the years for that. but now you

should be asking why people have ignored the reasonable requests of people of color and their supporters to have such a racist abuse removed in terms of public space that it had to respond to that i mentioned was that ed wood coaster was responsible for tens of thousands of no i don't t 1000 yeah you needn't think one man with colston was work for the royal africa company and that when he was there he was responsible for exams of thousands of people being in state which is what i said which is not hard to say that young man actually came with the fact that picture of course of 12000000 people being taken into slavery in total in the in the whole sort of 300 year period so that is not what i am i don't disagree with you on that but you just need to understand what i'm saying but i think the focus of what these protests need to be doing today is not bringing up you know some feigned outrage over what happened

200 years to date when you said you people are slaves today mainly in north african countries such as libya and look. i'm now joined by the chief executive of race equality 1st idea i have had earlier frank you for joining us now based in cardiff quite close to where the action happened in bristol do you think what happened with the statue was the right decision. well the cotton statue being brought down was a message that change is needed and people are tired the statue was erected in 8095 and they've been repeated calls to remove the statue including lot to sions with thousands of signatures people have asked for the statue moved to a museum to showcase the bar actions of colton. it was the right way to bring the statute own people you know to use the right mechanisms of the structures that replaced their basically but. as i said there were there have been so many repeated

calls there be petitions with thousands of signatures and there have not been responded to that we know answered but i think tearing down a statue well it's certainly a powerful symbol of frustration as well but how do you think it affects those like yourself whose lives are dedicated to fighting racism. well based on the population of 16 percent own people you know so just imagine a 16 percent of bain people and they have had to walk around watching the statue in their daily lives. within their city you know so it is a huge it's been a huge huge insult and they have tried using the correct. using the law basically you know writing and using the right this what does it replace you know but they haven't worked you know so petitions haven't worked the calls to the local authority haven't worked so you can understand you know what you

see the support for response across the u.k. across the world want people to speak out loudly that racism that is a problem our society and we could see now that people are saying that they're not going to put up with this and. and this statue being brought down was a message from those people showing that you know they're tired of the structures that are in place and the tide of not being listened but it's also let's look at the government's response to what actually happened in london at the weekend though they've government says that some of those some of those responsible the their reactions were thuggish i think that's the right approach from the government. well you know maybe it was the crapware is not the correct way to do things you know we urge people to you have many laws we have a lot a lot of legislation in place which should which is there to protect us but you know when you look at things like the race relations act been in place for almost 50 years now you know so i suppose the worry the fear is that 50 years from now

we'll still be having these conversations so with it being almost 50 years since race relations act has been in place look as now you know we're grieving for yet another life lost in the tragic case of racial injustice the undercliff of brutality is not on point to just the u.s. it's not an american problem it's a global problem our problem you know so it's the individual themselves they want to address this they know that needs we address and it's vital that we do on the action that needs to take to tackle the discrimination the systemic racism the market society. or have it thank you very much and if your source thank you. now the health secretary has defended the government's decision to introduce travel quarantine measures at this stage of the coronavirus pandemic international travelers must self isolate for 2 weeks amid concerns about the financial impact it

will happen the aviation industry well that's as a 3rd of the british public think the government hasn't gone far enough when it comes to the new travel restrictions that are to. be with the latest other shabda so the quarantine rules for international travelers they've come into effect haven't they absolutely this is another attempt by the government to keep that our number a low one and also stop the spread of the virus so today the home secretary pretty patel's plants have come into force essentially what they mean is almost everybody entering the united kingdom bit by plane train or ferry will have to self isolate for 14 days now says the inception of this plan last month while it received a barratt of criticism but today the house secretary about how cop has defended it saying it's science that. really clear on the on the importance of the quarantine being too to the lower incidence of new cases and that's the the basis on which this is introduced as of now as opposed to at the peak is

because at the peak you have a higher level of community transmission domestically and so the proportion of new cases that come from people coming from overseas is much lower even for the same number of new cases coming from overseas so that was the. that was the decision that we took consistent with that scientific advice and we're there for implementing the policy at the what we judged to be the right time in the spread of the pandemic. you reach british soil you'll have to provide an address of exactly where you will be isolating otherwise you'll face a fine of 100 pounds at that point that address could be subject to a spot check and if you are not in that address that property during the time where you should be self isolating you could then face a fine of up to 1000 pounds however according to the government's current team plans there are certain groups of people that are exempt from the quarantine

restrictive measures now they include people that live within the common travel area that includes people from the republic of ireland the channel islands and of man plans also exempt health workers who are providing important essential care people who work as road tolly as and because as well as seasonal agricultural workers and people of course who reside in the u.k. that travel abroad at least once a week for work purposes now as i say there is a bar of criticism when it comes to these quarantine measures some even calling them ludicrous 1st the and foremost because they some would argue they are on implementable because once you reach the united kingdom many people will have to use public transport to reach their ultimate destination many would say that entirely defeats the point that the government does stress you should use alternative travel measures however for some there are no alternatives then those issues of the groups that are exempt but of course crucially the timing of all of

this many people say it's too little too late and it should have been implemented at the beginning of the lockdown period we only have to look across the channel european channel to see our european counterparts have already implemented this quarantine phase long long before the united kingdom some of which are now levy ating in lifting the measures at this point whereas for britain we're only act a one but most interestingly we heard from matt hancock that said this policy is science led but when we look at what sage the government sex but advises what they're saying they complete. i disagree with the quarantine they say it makes no sense and will essentially be in affective however despite all of these criticisms the latest poll does reveal that a 3rd of people want the government to be even tougher on those traveling from abroad just over 40 percent think the restrictions go far enough with just over a 3rd disagreeing but the question in all of this really is how the public will

recover from the lockdown particularly when it comes to travel because of course most of this is based on consumer confidence quarantine or not. try to thank you very much or we were 500 firms in the travel and hospitality industry are preparing to launch a legal battle against the government over its quarantine measures the group called question quarantine have claimed the new measures are politically motivated instead of scientific they have said they could either support a judicial review or seek an injunction to stop the policy in its tracks or members of the campaign hope the challenge will lead to the restrictions being reversed by the end of the week or travel consultant on one of the quad quarantined legal challenges paul charles told me that the country will struggle to combat another wave of the virus if quarantine measures are reversed the quarantine measures coming in a crime when countries around the neighborhood have much lower our rate than the

u.k. though so it doesn't make any sense to bring in the quarantine measures right now that should have been brought in in early march when the wise countries in the world did slow to be actually and the results of benefited from arch lower numbers in the u.k. well the government argued would be that if people don't quarantine for 2 weeks the u.k. could be at risk of a 2nd wave of the virus so in that effect i mean wouldn't it be more detrimental were there to be a 2nd wave or for the aviation industry. well at some point you have to get the economy moving again there could be a 2nd wave that could be a 3rd wave of 4th wave a 5th wave what point do you actually which on the economy to make sure that people have jobs so that they can pay taxes to pay for the health care for them to be good enough in the 2nd wave or a wave if you just frame like the travel and tourism and hospitality is that it's not going to help to live the economic benefits that britain is going to need in the future so i think you can hang around for a long time waiting for

a vaccine that may never come but if you don't let that get going again then you're not going to benefit long term no country will survive like that. without the. hobgoblin it could be opened in 2 weeks that reports claim that sensation should take stock in the hospitality sector for the summer i'll be talking to the hotel and i'll buy. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. the world is driven by a dreamer shaped by one person of those great. dares

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welcome back 27 leading medics and scientists according for an urgent covert 19 inquiry before an anticipated 2nd wave of the virus hits the u.k. if as seems probable there is a 2nd wave this winter many bold die unless we find quick practical solutions to some of the structural problems that have made implementing and of. to response so difficult we call on all political parties to commit to a rapid transparent experts inquiry to address these issues this must avoid diverting the efforts of those responding to the crisis or portioning blame but should propose feasible ways to overcome the obstacles faced by those on the front

line of the response and help them to save lives or group a warning that a fresh wave of the virus in the winter could kill many more if the government doesn't address the problems that have made their current response more difficult this includes the fragmentation in the n.h.s. public health and social care. and the war on this so is joined by one of the signatories dr calle ash and he told me that the handling of the 1st wave has been a disaster. i think a lot longer cook. you can was 'd the world leader in health education and science what happened despite all the odds is we have more the high death rate in the war and how you know what new york and all these are reported to. one was disastrous numbers but of the spend and a very very very poor leadership but i bungled or oh we were late did lock down and now we're seeing. we have absolutely miserable does.

that sort of wonder us right in generally when the whole thing started enjoying and we did not. have gardens in england could be set to reopen as early as june 22nd as the prime minister reportedly faces mounting pressure to kick start the hospitality sector it follows a warning that up to 3500000 hospitality jobs could be at stake the proposals thought to be drawn up by a group of ministers dubbed the save some a 6 would allow some pubs with outdoor areas to start serving again the government is also facing calls to have the to meet a social distancing role as hospitality chiefs say the current rules aren't workable for business want to discuss the plans further now joined by the managing director of the standard hotel pub group kate kate stuart and i'm trying to say thank you for joining us i mean the doors to pub gardens earlier than planned will offer a much needed boost to the hospitality industry renter. but willie so the saints

are all sight you can and cannot be a god and this is where the number one becomes a pens upon last week we had a major heat wave and then the next day i at me and the winds was absolutely blasted me house where not europe and we're not like the rest of europe we haven't got the weather to be able to depends upon to open be a gardens in addition be a garden stations to all buildings as well as going to be really small when we implement that you meet a distance and are taken is going to drop dramatically now the hospitality industry is already in a poor state you know puts a shot unless right in send to mine is a little bit different as well because i say well it depends on full full full full to people going in to watch liverpool i have to that's where my taking is come from let's be honest who's going to come to stay in a hotel and i'm fields in the suburbs of liverpool without the football problem as though it's a step in the right direction to kick start the economy is that right but how much

longer about cam hospitality has to survive total lockdown well number one is is it the right time to jam a foot is it for financial reasons or is a for health reasons that we're going to allow the businesses to reopen but the other things that we've got as well is that with the small amount of taken is that we'll be getting we can't afford to pay all bills when the governments which will they help so they'll say you know what we're not supporting use anymore we're the fear level guy when we lost to stop a lot taxes again but we won't be able to do that on the small proportion of taking is that we get with that you meet a distance and just be a god and so on and so yeah it's a step in the right direction but not as a business owner can you might just as well trying to implement social tastes and sense of people who are intoxicated with alcohol and people who haven't been allowed out for 3 months and all of a sudden the same yet come on like say when will be the business owner's responsibility to be implementing social distance and will be also be fined if it's not let go isn't what they're plotting that i'm putting the end of it by news to

the public i mean all with and putting out some of the outdoor venues to invest that's a priority always then putting too much risk on the virus to bring in circulation. well i think we don't know that julie because once made it to our rate stand in the next minute to operate so we just joke now and it's we are not educated enough as boat owners and hotel owners to be able to judge that and implementing so what i'm saying to people ok consumer confidence is going to be on the floor because a few weeks ago we were saying you know completely locked and you can't go out you know everybody death rates so high and then all of us would say ok the jewels are let's all command are the consumers going to be confident and know of to venture out into clement's a pope's and commence at restaurants and come into hotels i don't think it is i think people are going to be too scared to actually want to go out to pope's. thank you very much indeed for joining us this case thanks for having me well so hot in

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capabilities there is reason for concern so that's why we're going to drill down on the story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly it's time to do news again. they can come and blow our brains out at any given time we can't really do anything actually america is the only country in the world where you can kill people outside of war and legally get away with. all of the fire across stillbirth all the troubled history failed to point that style of playing to k.k.k. .