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i don't think you. greetings and sally you taishan. mark of the day on your calendars my friends monday on the very 1st day of june 2020 the us president bird believe declared war on the citizens of the united states of america or at least those citizens who do not support one donald trump's vision for america whatever that twisted necrotic self and intelligent vision actually is the brand name and sheep emerged from a white house bunker on monday after tweeting tough and hiding out most of the weekend after thousands of thousands of black lives matter activists took to the
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streets of washington d.c. to protest the murder of george floyd and the harassment unwarranted incarceration and killing of thousands upon thousands of black and brown citizens by u.s. law enforcement over the years standing in the rose garden our chickenhawk in cheapie declare that if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them. you know that want to be tough guy up there trying to act like he actually knows what he's doing but let's find out what does trump's law and order look like well apparently my friends it starts by deploying chemical weapons and state state sanctioned violence on peaceful protesters in front of the white house just so once again our chickenhawk in cheap along with members of his family and his administration could stand off quickly in front of st
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john's episcopal church with a bible in hand for a campaign botto up when asked if the bible was actually his old trumpery said quote well you know hey it's a bible church officials were not told of the plan in fact the bishop of the pisky pulled diocese of washington wasn't even given a courtesy call after witnessing this p.r. stunt she told the media quote he did not pray he did not mention george void he did not mention the agony of people who have been subjected to this kind of horrific expression of racism and white supremacy for hundreds of years he has done the opposite of that and if or rather when the president deploys the us military inside the united states to keep his version of peace many are now asking is that even legal or was it another one of those protections that democrats and republicans in congress gave away in their post 911 war on terror to destroy our
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constitution and bill of rights these are important questions that we need to start asking and let's find out as we start watching honks. what's going on on a city the streets. there so let's see this is this release state says a. great city displays systemic dissent says the late show. so when the field as. well. watching the hawks i am tired and i'm. joining us now to discuss the many legal ramifications of president donald trump snoozy old to unleash the u.s. military on main street as the host of america's loyal lawyer my pap and tony and mike always a pleasure thank you for joining us. mike i want to start by asking you the obvious can donald trump illegally unleashed the u.s.
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military on protesters is posse comitatus is that act still valid. to well the act is valid but there's exceptions to the act one of them is the 8 it's $1807.00 it was a general purpose kind of element that was used to to get around what with the restrictions where the posse comitatus of course is you can't use military and domestic soul but here's what happened you had they they had to get the klu klux klan under control down south so they said we're going to make some exceptions here they sit in the federal troops there that was the 1st time it was used in the l.b.j. used to in essence dollars used it george bush is used it so absolutely trump is going to be able to do what he's threatening to do there's no question here if there's some triggers the real one trigger is is you have to say has the governor as of a state asked for has the legislature of a state asked that the military brought in or if they haven't is there such unrest
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that constitutional rights of individuals are at risk and they seem incapable of protecting those constitutional rights then trump can do that sue a sponsor he can send them in and you know look. this is the bigger picture here this is this is all a show you know you've got you've got call rove in the in the white house right now call rove you might remember is one of the people that put together the lee atwater program for winning the south and when the when in the present. election for ronald reagan and more importantly. comes liao who are winning for nixon in the biggest landslide that the country has ever seen the purpose of what he did we're seeing this is this is a replay completely there's a wonderful book out it's called nixon the land nixon land again and rick perlstein wrote nixon land and he described how the nixon swept the election in the end
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$72.00 biggest turnout ever by america's middle class white middle class labor class showed up because they were terrified what were they terrified they were terrified with the demonstrations of the riots that they saw on the street they were terrified with the weathermen they were terrified with the black panthers they were terrified by what they were seeing on the news every night and so what what nixon did is embrace stole that and he said look i'm going i'm going to use that to win the white house the biggest turnout ever from middle america showed up trump is using that same thing to go forward and you know what the bad news is it's probably going to work you see biden right now slightly ahead trump if he does this just in to use the same playbook that has been used in the past you're going to have a terrified mom and pop middle america that are going to show up they're going to be outraged by the counterculture movement taking place in america just like rick
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perlstein described in his book nixon when it's a big threat so can he do this yeah he's not only chance to do this he must do this in order to stay with his playbook. that was an awesome description mike and i feel like there are so many people that gave credit to donald trump for being new and innovative and it seems like a lot of his ideas we've seen republicans run the playbook for once again in previous years and then to switch gears just a little bit and get on something else you know that many of the right wing pundits and supporters of the president on. citing the insurrection at 1807 how do you think this will be used to justify a military response in the protests and does it actually hold legal weight. yeah it does and we've seen it used historically here's the balancing act that's the this 1807 issue comes if it comes into it comes into this question is that do we have constitutional rights that are being affected by the average citizen where where we
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can say that those constitutional rights are being so affected that it trumps it trumps the right to assembly and the right to free speech it's what we call is part of what we call our police powers and right now if you look at the facts if you had to argue in front of an appellate court you would be arguing look we have a policeman being shot policeman shot in back of the head just the other day property on fire entire cities basically a blaze if you follow the media you've got city blocks that look like they're burning down if you follow the media you have bystanders being shot so the question comes down to this does the right assume to assemble does that is that stronger than the right for the president to say look i don't care how i don't care what the issue is you have constitutional rights of people that don't have a dog in this fight that are being affected and because of that i'm going to send
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in the military he has a lot of latitude here a lot and as i say if you follow his playbook this speech that he gave in the rose garden go back and take a look at some of the speeches that richard nixon gave where he talked about unrest he scared the bejesus out of mom and pop he said this is going that we have people what marching in the streets we have a drug culture that's out of control we have all of these things that are taking place in if you don't vote for me you're going to have you're going to have this number audit this liberal number that has to correct all this problem and it in. worked doing work like i want to so. i want to jump in and just ask you you know if you were arguing against the president's use of you know martial law and putting you know u.s. soldiers on the streets if you were arguing against that if you're the lawyer on the other side how would you argue against that i would argue i would make a states right argument i would say listen we have governors we have legislatures that made those decisions they're closer to the issues they understand the local
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issues they understand the nuances of what goes on the police departments they understand the nuances of how the public reacts to certain elements of day to day life so your best argument is to say how dare you federal government. to come in here and tell a state that we don't have the good sense in minnesota for example we don't have the good sense to gate to gain control over this problem we have legislators that have been elected to do that on the governor i was elected to do that that is the argument between states' rights and the feds that's that would be the strongest argument to me i think i have a very strong argument quickly i want to also ask you to we've seen tear gas being used quite a bit in the last week now tear gas in a war zone is completely illegal that's completely considered a war crime how are u.s. police forces being allowed to use something that's illegal in war like tear gas on our citizens left and right it seems like yeah unfortunately unfortunately tear gas
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is used all over the world it's a big industry the tear gas industry makes good zillions of dollars selling tear gas everywhere from jinnah's whalen to hong kong to the united states and you know what it's been explored by the a.c.l.u. the a.c.l.u. is what at least half a dozen lawsuits saying look here's the problem with tear gas it's indiscriminate you know even what you do is you affect old young healthy unavailable the you affect people who have a dog in the fight and people who don't and because of that a display indiscriminate nature it's too dangerous to allow it that argument has been made at least a half a dozen times the united states by the a.c.l.u. and other human rights organizations and it's lost it's been made around the world and it's lost most countries allow tear gas right now even though it's a complete contradiction what you say is correct you can't it is considered a war crime if you use it in a war said. it's amazing that we can get away with war crimes on citizens because that argument that you just laid out just seems to keep losing it absolutely blows
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my mind mike i want to thank you so much for coming on the day and giving us your perspective on these issues that are affecting all of us here in the united states and will affect everyone around the world thank you so much sir. thanks for the invitation. all right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on demand to the brand new portable t.v. app available on all platforms and coming up my friends we dig into the statistics behind police brutality in the united states and our to america's bridges blevins later joins us to discuss what u.s. lawmakers are considering them to do in order to bring accountability to law enforcement gone wild state to watch the whole.
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world is driven by a dream shaped by one person with those words. the day or thinks. we dared to ask. when i was chosen seemed wrong all right all wrong just don't call. me but yet to shape out this day become agitated and engagement equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart when she's to look
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for common ground. eric garner michael brown mcdonald to me or writes walter scott brady great jim r. clarke. sterling the land-o. castille stefan clarke botham john. taylor and george lloyd say their names remember their names they're more than just hashtags and their lives mattered police brutality is so ingrained in american society that it
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deserves its own strike on the u.s. flag despite calls for justice from blacks who've been treated as 2nd class citizens for hundreds of years in the land of the free in the home of the brave those in the highest places fail to listen and blacks are better tired of being hunted in our own communities targeted because our skin dared to be milling needed but even with all the facts many across america fail to fully grasp the least violence that permeates this country protest over george floyd's murder have now gone on for over a week protesters have been met by curfews police officers in riot gear armored tanks in the streets and all of the fixings of a militarized zone though the cops thing with his new employees nick has been arrested and charged the 3 other officers who assisted him have not. this may seem abnormal to some of these but it's painfully reoccurring though there is no comprehensive official database for tracking police violence there have been
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efforts at the federal level to change this but data compiled by researchers paints a picture that many taking to the streets know all too well last year more than 1000 people were killed by police according to mapping police violence a research group black people are disproportionately murdered but the most startling find is that 99 percent of killings by police from 2030 to 2019 have not resulted in officers charged with a single crime 99 percent cops shoot and kill choke and kill beat and kill and get off without a single charge nearly 100 percent of the time only police officers can get away with killing people in large number and barely ever being charged for it steep hurdles to conviction often keep prosecutors at a distance and qualified immunity protects them why is bringing charges against cops the 3rd rail and what can we do to change this. i mean should you summed it up
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right there that question should be what's being asked over and over and over and over and over again in the media and all of our public discourse but we're not seeing it we hear we see more about you know people talking about the right way to protest in the media seems all focused on the looting and the scattered violence and all that but there are ignoring the real root cause is correct absolutely in the level of frustration is really high as it should be because we see it and i'm afeard i'm that these officers are killing murdering people in many of these cases we've seen the cell phone footage in some cases we've seen the video cam from the officers themselves showcasing this yet those officers face no state penalties they don't even get charged or anything they walk away many of them are even put on real leave others who are just move on to another police thing into a couple of towns over and people are fed up for good reason and it's amazing to when you look at those numbers that you mentioned about those being charged i mean when you when you break that down that is incredible to me when you see that you
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know what is it like to go nearly 100 percent of cases in which they're not even charge me when they pull the trigger that's that's insane absolutely and it's very it's very frustrating it's something that many in the black community assumed was happening now we have data to actually back it up that in the majority of cases if you are able to walk free what does that say to the next officer who commits a bylane act how does this stop excessive use of force how is this in any way tailing a lot of the balance that we're seeing across across police policing in teens and across communities of color specifically if there is no real penalty to you for your actions no and the tragedy of it is not like we didn't see this coming i mean i i was working at our to burst you're working here was one ferguson happened you know and it's like you thought like after that round you know the whole well came out would see some accountability and all they really did was they threw kind of technological marvels at body cams that we didn't really get to the root. problem the problem with that i like that you brought up body cams is that we've saying
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that those don't work by their body cams are only as affective beneficent as the officer who turns the body cam on even in cases where it is always seen that there are defenses that are made for officers who use excessive force and those officers still are not charged with anything the body can industry has done nothing but put money in the pockets of the lobbyists who are actually pushing to happily think it's easy to use them they are not stopping by less they are not preventing violence and they don't want to sure aren't helping the black community or saving individuals who are going to die if police continue to act in the way that they are and you know realists this is a problem too is that look it's also good since the government investigating a government which you and i both know it hates to do it never wants to be held accountable you see that left and right in today's world you know they want to push it off on everybody else but you know any time you get government trying to investigate government you're always going to see not everyone is going to get charged not everyone is going to get laid off over and over and over again and that the most frustrating part for me here is that it's not just not everyone is nearly no one we're talking about 99 percent of people not getting charged at all i can't
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think of any other entity in the country aside from possibly the military itself where you could take out this many people on a regular basis and not a thing go penalty it just breaks my heart and that is all because of these laws it's set up to protect police are they mostly put in place a group of police unions and that kind of things are we're seeing happen and yes police unions are extremely strong there they are designed to not only protect police officers but also to protect the city in many cases from further investigation once a police officer commits one of these acts so police officers pretty much run free and clear because the unions are so strong behind them that they basically give them credence to go off and murder again soon over and over too because it's like i look at it like this how much acts of violence if we've seen these police that show up dressed like stormtroopers committed against the protesters i mean how many more reporters got to lose and how many more you saw in philadelphia where you had the whole why the folks up against highway basement. the grass just getting blasted
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with tear gas left and right will anyone be held accountable for probably. after a week's worth the massive protests across the nation calling for criminal justice and police reform it appears that finally some lawmakers i know what's shocking are actually taking the not so subtle hint that something needs to be done lawmakers a few lawmakers have now finally stepped forward and are actually proposing reforms in hopes to reduce the number of americans killed by police to impact the waves police and to impact the ways police respond to the protests is are going to be some answers well are to america's great job lebanese joins us now to give us the latest on that rachel what more lawmakers are trying doing to try to make changes in the interest of police reform and hopefully which might bring these protests to a peaceful conclusion if they actually make these reforms well at the heart of these nationwide protests there of course calls for police accountability and a lot of advocates are saying that one of the most basic things that they can do is
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to end a decades long practice that has been going on where police officers face no liability for their actions whatsoever so in response to that independent congressman justin amash is said to introduce legislation called the ending qualified immunity act now he released a statement about that in which he said quote the brutal killings of george floyd is merely the latest in a long line of incidents of egregious police misconduct this pattern continues because police are legally politically and culturally insulated from consequences from violating the rights of the people who they have sworn to serve now we've seen numerous multimillion dollar settlements after citizens were abused or even killed by police but in those cases it's always taxpayers footing the bill so it makes you wonder if police officers actually had to face a financial liability for their actions when they think twice before resorting to violence good question and racial you know this this whole segment has been completely depressing for various reasons i'm looking for you. tell me something good right now what do you think about the fight to keep records of police
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misconduct what is the latest there not quite to the good news yet but of course when we look at the case of george floyd we see 4 officers who were fired but only one officer has been charged and because as you talked about earlier we don't have a national database for police misconduct in this country so a lot of times even when officers are fired or even when they are charged they go on they join a new police department or in some cases they're even rehired by their old department and we do have a few examples of that to look out which were compiled by the freethought project and when we look at some of those cases we see that in arizona officer philip burroughs faired was fired and charged with murder in the shooting death of daniel shaver shown on video and 2016 he was then acquitted and rehired by the mesa police department in 2018 and told oklahoma officer betty shelby was charged with murder in the shooting death of terrance crutcher also shown on video in 2016 she was found not guilty and then hired as
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a sheriff in rogers county and 2017 and in salt lake city utah detective jeff payne was fired in 2017 after a viral video showed him violently arresting nurse alex wobbles for doing her job he faced no charges and then was hired by the weather county jail in 2019 you see all of these cases where they were viral videos and yet they still went on to work in the same industry now to maybe bring some remedy to the democratic senator cory booker has promised to bring legislation that would create a national database for police misconduct so we could see some more accountability and hopefully transparency moving forward it doesn't blow my mind but that still has still hasn't been made that doesn't exist there's also been concerns about the military gear you know the militarization of local police and we've seen it firsthand when responding to these protests as they were moved to change that i no one thought we changed it after ferguson read exactly what you think back to when president obama was in office there was a lot of courage. this isn't about that 1033 program where local police departments
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were suddenly getting military equipment from federal agencies now in 2015 he did sign some restrictions for that program after you saw police in ferguson missouri who were using military equipment against peaceful protesters then president came in in 2016 and signed an executive order completely taking away those restrictions altogether and now we are once again seeing military police going after peaceful protesters so now * democratic senator bryan schott says that he is going to introduce legislation to create an amendment that would go into the national defense authorization act and what that would do is take away the funding for that program altogether so there is some hope that maybe we'll see some legislation moving forward as these protests continue i yes cleaves finally made a plea. thank you so much for compiling all that information and that is definitely of the most important stuff that we have to be looking at in the days moving forward to hopefully get these reforms and hopefully bring some justice to those
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that have died at the hands of police already body that thank you rachael article and that is our show pure today remember everyone in this world we are not told that we are above the belt so i tell you well i love you but i am tired robot and i'm in the shop keep on watching all those hawks out there stay safe and have a great day and night everybody. join me every day on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then.
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a box. they just mean the way in life it's almost been basically mccullers piece before. to us what security security positions are going to be in that. day or jack me again. you'll see people get all their cars and i'll see you coming in the harness seems like they'll hurry up and run into the house like they don't want to don't want to talk to her get your mail or anything like that. let's run. through this. run just try read a. good chance give me. 8 in 10 voters say the country's on the wrong track or does that mean for trump's reelection than joe biden's chances former new mexico governor bill richardson is
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here with us with his take song. this is politics. well so politicking on larry king according to a new poll of vast when giardia voters think the united states is heading in the wrong direction that says we end of the 2nd we go black lives matter protests across the united states what does all this mean for the fall election and our standing in the world will start there with bill richardson former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. former democratic governor of new mexico and he served as secretary of energy and the administration of bill clinton. billows good to see of protests all across america not going away we've seen this before but people are saying this time is to it's different you think it's different it is different down larry because this
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poll is very important in a presidential race whether the country's going on the right or wrong direction and clearly americans are dissatisfied with with the economy there's 21000000 americans still unemployed there's racial tension there's a perception that the president and his that ministration have not done well in protecting us from the virus although there is progress so i think it looks good right now or you hate to predict so early 5 months away for joe biden my only worry is that joe biden who i'm supporting not take the race for granted i don't like him to get out of his living room and get out with the people more into the key states like michigan ohio pennsylvania iowa florida but i think he's a our strongest candidate numb please with the direction his campaign is take.
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