the harassment unwarranted incarceration and killing of thousands upon thousands of black and brown citizens by u.s. law enforcement over the years standing in the rose garden our chickenhawk in cheapie declare that if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them because that want to be tough guy up there trying to act like he actually knows what he's doing but let's find out what does trump's law and order look like well apparently my friends it starts by deploying chemical weapons and state state sanctioned violence on peaceful protesters in front of the white house just so once again our chickenhawk in cheap along with members of his family and his administration could stand off quickly in front of st john's episcopal church with a bible in hand for a campaign botto up when asked if the bible was actually his old trumpery he said

quote well you know hey it's a bible church officials were not told of the plan in fact the bishop of the ep a pisky pulled diocese of washington wasn't even given a courtesy call after witnessing this p.r. stunt she told the media quote he did not pray he did not mention george void he did not mention the agony of people who have been subjected to this kind of horrific expression of racism and white supremacy for hundreds of years he has done the opposite of that. and if or rather when the president deploys the us military inside the united states to keep his version of peace many are now asking is that even legal or was it another one of those protections that democrats and republicans in congress gave away in their post 911 war on terror to destroy our constitution and bill of rights these are important questions that we need to start asking and let's find out as we start watching the hawks. what's going on on

a cd. or whatever. it is so let's see this is this you always stay i'll see you. great displays systemic dissent says the late show. with. jill. welcome aboard watching the hawks i am tyrone with her and i will be across. and joining us now to discuss the many legal ramifications of president donald trump's news deal to unleash the u.s. military on main street as the host of america's loyal lawyer mike papen tonio mike always a pleasure thank you for joining us. mike i want to start by asking you the obvious can donald trump illegally unleashed the u.s. military on protesters is posse comitatus is that act still valid.

well the act is valid but there's exceptions to the act one of them is the 81807 it was a general purpose kind of element that was used to get around what were the restrictions where the posse comitatus of course is you can't use military and domestic soul but here's what happened you had they they had to get the klu klux klan under control down south so they said we're going to make some exceptions here they sit in the federal troops there that was the 1st time it was used in the l.b.j. used it in f. . the r.'s used it george bush is used it so absolutely trump is going to be able to do what he's threatening to do there's no question here and there's some triggers though tyrrell one trigger is is you have to say has the governor as of a state asked for has the legislature of a state asked that the military brought in or if they haven't is there such unrest that constitutional rights of individuals are at risk and they seem incapable of

protecting those constitutional rights than trump can do that sue a sponsor he can send them in and you know look. this the bigger picture here this is this is all a show you know you've got you've got call rose in the in the white house right now call rove you might remember is one of the people that put together really atwater program for winning the south and win the win in the presidential election for ronald reagan and more importantly. it comes lee out we're winning for nixon in the biggest landslide that the country has ever seen the purpose of what he did were saying this is this is a replay completely there's a wonderful book out it's called nixon the land nixon land again and rick perlstein wrote nixon land and he described how nixon swept in the election in the end $72.00 biggest turnout ever by america's middle class white middle class labor class

showed up because they were terrified what were they terrified when they were terrified with the demonstrations the riots that they saw on the street they were terrified with the weathermen they were terrified with the black panthers they were terrified by what they were seeing on the news every night and so what what nixon did is embraced all that and he said look i'm going i'm going to use that to win the white house the biggest turnout ever from middle america showed up trump is using that same thing to go. forward and you know what the bad news is it's probably going to work you see biden right now slightly ahead trump if he does this just to use the same playbook that has been used in the past you're going to have a terrified mom and pop middle america that are going to show up they're going to be outraged by the counterculture movement taking place in america just like rick perlstein described in his book nixon when it's a big threat so can he do this yeah he's not only chan to do this he must do this

in order to stay with his playbook. that was an awesome description mike and i feel like there are so many people that give credit to donald trump for being new and innovative and it seems like a lot of his ideas we've seen republicans run the playbook for once again in previous years and then to switch gears just a little bit and get on to something else you know that many of the right wing pundits and supporters of the president are citing the insurrection act of 1807 how do you think this will be used to justify a military response in the protests and does it actually hold legal weight. yeah it does and we've seen it used historically here's the balancing act that's in the this 1807 issue comes and it comes into it comes into this question is that do we have constitutional rights that are being affected by the average citizen where where we can say that those constitutional rights are being so affected that it

trumps it trumps the right to assembly and the right to free speech it's what we call is part of what we call our police powers and right now if you look at the facts if you had to argue in front of an appellate court you would be arguing look we have a policeman being shot policeman shot in back of the head just the other day property on fire entire cities basically a blaze if you follow the media you've got city blocks that look like they're burning down if you follow the media you have bystanders being shot so the question comes down to this does the right assume to assemble does that is that stronger than the right for the president to say look i don't care how i don't care what the issue is you have constitutional rights of people that don't have a dog in this fight that are being affected and because of that i'm going to send in the military he has a lot of latitude here a lot and as i say if you follow his playbook this speech that he gave in the rose

garden go back and take a look at some of the speeches that richard nixon gave where he talked about unrest he scared the bejesus out of mom and pop he said this is going that we have people what marching in the streets we have a drug culture that's out of control we have all of these things that are taking place in if you don't vote for me you're going to have you're going to have this number audit this liberal nimrod that has to correct all this problem and it worked you know work like i want to so. i want to jump in and just ask you you know if you are arguing against the president's use of you know martial. law and putting you know u.s. soldiers on the streets if you are arguing against that if you're the lawyer on the other side how would you argue against that i would argue i would make a state's right argument i would say listen we have governors and we have legislatures that made those decisions and they're closer to the issues they understand the local issues they understand the nuances of what goes on the police departments they understand the nuances of how the public reacts to certain

elements of day to day life so your best argument is to say how dare you federal government come in here and tell a state no we don't have the good sense in minnesota for example we don't have the good sense to gate to gain control over this problem we have legislators that have been elected to do that on the governor i was elected to do that that is the argument between states' rights and the feds that's that would be the strongest argument to me i think i have a very strong argument quickly i want to also ask you to we've seen tear gas being used quite a bit in the last week now tear gas in a war zone is completely illegal that's complete considered a war crime how are u.s. police forces being allowed to use something that's illegal in war like tear gas on our citizens left and right it seems like yeah unfortunately unfortunately tear gas is used all over the world it's a big industry the tear gas industry makes good zillions of dollars selling tear gas everywhere from jinnah's whalen to hong kong to the united states and you know

what it's been explored by the a.c.l.u. the a.c.l.u. is what at least half a dozen lawsuits saying look here's the problem with tear gas it's indiscriminate you know even what you do is you affect old young healthy unavailable the you affect people who have a dog in the fight and people who don't and because of that a display indiscriminate nature it's too dangerous to allow it that argument has been made at least a half a dozen times the united states by the a.c.l.u. and other human rights organizations and it's lost it's been made around the world and it's lost the most. countries allow tear gas right now even though it's a complete contradiction what you say is correct you chant it it's considered a war crime if you use it in a war said it's amazing that we can get away with war crimes on citizens because that argument that you just laid out just seems to keep losing it absolutely blows my mind mike i want to thank you so much for coming on today and giving us your perspective on these issues that are affecting all of us here in the united states

and will affect everyone around the world thank you so much sir. thanks for the invitation. all right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on demand to the brand new portable t.v. app available on all platforms and coming up my friends as we begin the statistics behind police brutality in the united states and our team america's rachel breath blevins later joins us to discuss what u.s. lawmakers are considering to do in order to bring accountability to law enforcement gone wild state to watch because. they can come and blow our brains out at any given time and we can't really do

anything actually america is the only country in the world where you can kill people outside of war and legally get away with. all the fire across stillbirth all the troubled history failed to point its hollow flying to k.k.k. exists because america wants it to exist they have the biggest terrorist group to ever operate in this country and they're dead to media war saul's and the people who destroyed the world trade centers are the scroll. probably the greatest success of the civil rights movement was respect for human dignity all lives matter under the rule of law that was then but today the same concept has been turned on its head we are told to change that need or face consequences social shame is being turned into

a ruling ideology. the world is driven by shaped by those with. no dares thinks. we dare to ask.

eric garner michael brown macdonald to mirror rice walter scott reading gray to mark clark. sterling blando castille step on clarke botham john rionda taylor and george boyd. say their names remember their names they're more than just hashtags and their lives mattered police brutality is so ingrained in american society that it deserves its own strike on the u.s. play. despite calls for justice from blacks who've been treated as 2nd class citizens for hundreds of years in the land of the free in the home of the brave those in the highest places fail to listen and blacks are fed up tired of being hunted in our own communities targeted because our skin bear to be millan needed but even with all the facts many across america fail to fully grasp police violence

that permeates this country protest over george floyd's murder have now gone on for over a week protesters have been met by curfews police officers in riot gear armored tanks in the streets and all of the fixings of a militarized zone though the cop seen with his neil boys nick has been arrested and charged the 3 other officers who assisted him have not this may seem abnormal to some of these but it's painfully reoccurring though there is no comprehensive official database for tracking police violence there have been efforts at the federal level to change this but data compiled by researchers paints a picture that many taking to the streets know all too well last year more than 1000 people were killed by police according to mapping police violence a research group black people are disproportionately murdered but the most startling find is that 99 percent of killings by police from 2030 to 2019 have not resulted in officers charged with

a single crime 99 percent. cops shoot and kill choke and kill beat and kill and get off without a single charge nearly 100 percent of the time. only police officers can get away with killing people in large number and barely ever being charged for it steep hurdles to conviction often keep prosecutors at a distance and qualified immunity protects them. why is bringing charges against cops the 3rd rail and what can we do to change this image should you summed it up right there that question should be what's being asked over and over and over and over and over again in the media in all of our public discourse but we're not seeing it we hear we see more about you know people talking about the right way to protest and the media seems all focused on the looting and the scattered violence and all that but there are ignoring the real root cause is correct absolutely in the level of frustration is really high as it should be because we see it and i'm

afeard i'm that these officers are killing murdering people in many of these cases we've seen the cell phone footage in some cases we've seen the video cam from the officers themselves showcasing this yet those officers face no state penalties they don't even get charged for anything they walk away and many of them are even put on real leave others who are just move on to another policing in city a couple of towns over and people are fed up for good reason and it's amazing to when you look at those numbers that you mentioned about those being charged i mean when you when you break that down that is incredible to me when you see that you know what is it like to go nearly 100 percent of cases in which they're not even charge me when they pull the trigger that's that's insane absolutely and it's very it's very frustrating it's something that many of the black community assumed was happening now we have data to actually back it up that in the majority of cases if you are able to walk free what does that say to the next officer who commits a bylane act how does this stop excessive use of force how is this in any way

tailing a lot of the violence that we're seeing across across police policing in teens and across communities of color specifically if there is no real penalty to you for your actions no and the tragedy of it is not like we didn't see this coming i mean i i was working at our to burst you're working here was one ferguson happened you know and it's like you thought like after that round you know the whole well came out would see some accountability and all the. really didn't see through kind of technological marvels of this body. that we didn't really get to the root problem the problem with and i like that you brought up body cams is that we've saying that those don't work by their body cams are only as affective beneficient as the officer who turns the body cam on and even in cases where it is always seen that there are defenses that are made for officers who use excessive force and those officers still are not charged with anything the body can industry has done nothing but put money in the pockets of the lobbyists who are actually pushing to happily think it's easy to use them they are not stopping by less they are not preventing violence and they don't want to sure aren't helping the black community or saving

individuals who are going to die if police continue to act in the way that they are and you know real is this is a problem too is that look it's also good some of the government investigating government which you and i both know it hates to do it never wants to be held accountable you see that left and right in today's world you know they want to push it off on everybody else but you know any time you get government trying to investigate government you're always going to see not everyone is going to get charged not everyone is going to get laid off over and over and over again and that the most frustrating part for me here is that it's not just not everyone is nearly no one we're talking about 99 percent of people not getting charged at all i can't think of any other entity in the country aside from possibly the military itself where you could take out this many people on a regular basis and not a thing go penalty it just breaks my heart and that is all because of these laws that set up to protect police are they mostly put in place a group of police unions and that kind of things are we're seeing happen yes police unions are extremely strong there they are designed to not only protect police officers but also to protect the city in many cases from further investigation once

a police officer commits one of these acts so police officers pretty much run free and clear because the unions are so strong behind them that they basically give them credence to go off and murder again soon over and over too because it's like i look at it like this how much acts of violence if we've seen these police that show up dressed like stormtroopers commit against the protesters i mean how many more reporters got to lose and. how many more you saw in philadelphia where you had the whole why the folks up against highway bateman on the grass just get blasted with tear gas left and right will anyone be held accountable for that probably. after a week's worth the massive protests across the nation calling for criminal justice and police reform it appears that finally some lawmakers i know it's shocking are actually taking the not so subtle hint that something needs to be done lawmakers a few lawmakers have now finally stepped forward and are actually proposing reforms in hopes to reduce the number of americans killed by police to impact the ways

police and to impact the way as police respond to the protests is are going to be some answers well are to america's great blabbing this joins us now to give us the latest on that rachel what what are lawmakers trying doing to try to make changes in the interest of police reform and hopefully which might bring these protests to a peaceful conclusion if they actually make these reforms well at the heart of these nationwide protests there are of course calls for police accountability and a lot of advocates are saying that one of the most basic things that they can do is to end a decades long practice that has been going on where police officers face no liability for their actions whatsoever so in response to that independent congressman justin amash is set to introduce legislation called the ending qualified immunity act now he released a statement about that in which he said quote the brutal killings of george floyd is merely the latest in a long line of incidents of egregious police misconduct this pattern continues because police are legally politically and culturally insulated from consequences

from violating the rights of the people who they have sworn to serve now we've seen numerous multimillion dollar settlements after citizens were abused or even killed by police but in those cases it's always taxpayers footing the bill so it makes you wonder if police officers actually had to face a financial liability for their actions when they think twice before resorting to violence good question. and rachel you know this this whole segment has been completely depressing for various reasons i'm looking for you to tell me something good right now what do you think about the fight to keep records of police misconduct what is the latest there not quite to the good news yet but of course when we look at the case of george floyd we see 4 officers who were fired but only one officer has been charged and because as you talked about earlier we don't have a national database for police misconduct in this country so a lot of times even when officers are fired or even when they are charged they go on they join

a new police department or in some cases they're even rehired by their old department and we do have a few examples of that to look out which were compiled by the freethought project and when we look at some of those cases we see that in arizona officer philip burroughs faired was fired and charged with murder in the shooting death of daniel shaver shown on video in 2016 he was then acquitted and rehired by the mesa police department in 2018 and told oklahoma officer betty shelby was charged with murder in the shooting death of terrance crutcher also shown on video in 2016 she was found not guilty and then hired as a sheriff in rogers county and 2017 and in salt lake city utah detective jeff payne was fired in 2017 after a viral video showed him violently arresting nurse alex wobbles for doing her job he faced no charges and then was hired by the weather county jail in 2019 you see all of these cases where they were viral videos and yet they still went on to work in the same industry now to maybe bring some remedy to the democratic senator cory

booker has promised to bring legislation that would create a national database for police misconduct so we could see some more accountability and hopefully transparency moving forward it doesn't blow my mind it still has still hasn't been made and it doesn't exist there's also been concerns about the military gear you know the militarization of local police and we've seen it firsthand when responding to these protests as they were moved to change that i know of but we changed it after. right exactly and when you think back to when president obama was in office there was a lot of criticism about that 1033 program where local police departments were suddenly getting military equipment from federal agencies now in 2015 he did sign some restrictions for that program after you saw police in ferguson missouri who were using military equipment against peaceful protesters then president came in in 2016 and signed an executive order completely taking away those restrictions altogether and now we are once again seeing military police going after peaceful

protesters so now democratic senator brian schott says that he is going to introduce legislation to create an amendment that would go into the national defense authorization act and what that would do is take away the funding for that program altogether so there is some hope that maybe we'll see some legislation moving forward as these protests continue i guess cleves finally made. thank you so much for compiling all that information and that is definitely i think the most important stuff that we have to be looking at in the days moving forward to hopefully get these reforms and hopefully bring some justice to those that have died at the hands of police already body that ridge thank you rachael article and that is our show pure today remember everyone in this world we are not told that we are above the buff so i tell you well i love you but i am tired robot and i'm in the 2nd keep on watching all those hawks out there stay safe and have a great day and night but.

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