and they. do use comma. given the. blessing in disguise or is it too early. to talk about that i'm joined today by. explorer filmmaker. it was the advocate explorer filmmaker anyhow he hasn't been issued a great carry with us today wow what exactly he. will not ever imagine advocating the what if you give us his brain after every sort of settled in a sense in time and not now on the internet. there is a major balancing act and in that. day years in the streets of paris as the regal it's not free in danger. some hears it saying is there any real

truth to the. trial stories ari said they are so private as serial writing of this that's you know it's a really good question i think it's a little bit of both as you so often the case certainly there are instances i would much sooner as where the air pollution has plummeted the air quality is better than it's been in generation. that is you certainly a result. a lot of cars on the road seen them away as it is and yes he was photographed just stunning is also a result of a reduction in air pollution i think what these these images are showing us is what the world could look like in a in a different in a different future a future that we could go. it's it's a result of a reduction illusion it's result you know a reduction of human activities but you know that life gets back to normal

unfortunately i think a lot of it away. so the satellite image is shot weeks after strict lockdown started it also showed the air indeed became cleaner not only her late but over many interests or however the world is a ransom china and after more than like a century of constant pollution turns out all it takes is no 2 months of sitting at home. and we're going to see the results does this mean that the problem of air quality is actually a lie easier to face than without well you know he doesn't he just says a few important things in there one thing i want to point out there's a that i have a great concern to many of my colleagues are very concerned that people are making a connection for the environment to succeed. the economy has to decline that's not true but. what it's showing us is that when we adopt the kinds of technology the kinds of behaviors that can reduce pollution nature

has an incredible ability to be resigned to bounce back as you pointed out in just a few short months we can transform air that we breathe imagine you know there's a lot of speculation and additional research so very early that. a lot of deaths have been avoided because of improve their quality in many places so i think that this is really a glimpse a window if you will what the world can be like when we start to adopt letter g. and start to invest in that kind of technology and make our air and our water of your your goals so let's not get more any detail about what you mean by when we have a class and firemen and clean air it doesn't always have to be checks that hose to economic downfall and that's a reassuring thought for many because well suppose that it is over everyone is

going to rush to make up for their losses sack areas and start running again traffic will come back the construction exploration will resume carrousel all these positive changes we see in their environment i feel like it's not going to be there to stay for a long time and kind of lay at each it feelings about the what we think well i think that you know one of the realities coming out of this crisis is going to be a different economic landscape there's already a tremendous amount of suffering from an economic perspective as well as a whole perspective a lot of unemployment and so i believe that it's our decision. now to decide what kind of a world want to build coming out of this. assists for example in clean energy in the united states in 209700000 people were employed in coal

2.34 more 1000000 people were employed in energy efficiency in clean energy projects so the opportunity to create jobs coming out of this crisis and the top of the employment the woods. the opportunity exist to invest in energy efficiency which is relevant in moscow relevant in los angeles relevant paris hollow it doesn't matter where you are in the world energy efficiency those kinds of jobs and infrastructure and rethinking our energy grid that provides long term benefits for all of but also her eyes whole new industries for employment so instead of investing in some of the dirty industries that we out in the house and the the opportunity is to celebrate our investment in clean energy and those are the jobs of the future anyway and so we can we can get a head start and build an economy of the future coming out of cove it and also having the benefit of building a world with your new your air cleaner water for ourselves and our children. let me even more specific because this is like

a very important topic what kind of measures more than what you 2nd to put in place so that after the condemning of their rebound they kind of i guess will carry with it south it's a massive initial side if you are president i mean it states what i didn't tell 5 measures would you implement coming out of condemning in terms of the same thing as slow transition and saving the good that we've done today that maturing that and that you know a couple things that come to mind when i think about what we need to do going forward economically what is infrastructure green building building higher end of energy efficiency retrofitting buildings is a very very simple way that we can provide jobs for people to work save money by reducing energy consumption and believe in energy efficiency and that kind of infrastructure investments in major cities around the country will be millions of

jobs are just there green building is absolutely critical retrofitting existing buildings is one way that we can pry magically reviews are of the other things i would be looking to invest further and sustainable transportation so when we look at the explosion of electric cars that we've seen around the world the best in battery technology investment in battery storage and energy storage. is absolutely the focus of the future so from an r. and b. perspective if i had federal dollars and i was going to invest in either traditional propping up traditional hostile fuels as is the current administration's focus i would rather be investing in technology to the rest of the world this is increasingly consuming looking or i think that's really important from an r. and b. perspective and ology in food one of the challenges with one of the concerns around this crisis has been a recognition that our global food system is. is vulnerable and so

investing in people being able to provide food bill farms local communities investing in urban arms being able to allow local food for people with healthy food is something i would be investing in also can provide jobs for people for them looking at some of the fundamentals of our society how they were how we travel and where lives are the kinds of places below hanging fruit that. a skeptic will tell you that will most probably in the us of the president i'm not going to start internet make that amazing right after corona is over so coming back to the reality right now could be a man that's in situation actually worsen after current and they says you know what i would expect the industry to be working overtime to offset the damages sustained during the phonetic is that something that i think. you know from from the research that i and the people have consulted and in my industry there's

a strong belief that the economic recovery will not be the shape as people talk about a you shape and you no longer recovery so i think we're going to have critics on of months if not years before gross domestic product returns to refocus levels in europe russia united states. likely years so in that case we do have a period of time so the thinking about how we kick start the. economy and it's something happen overnight so i don't think unfortunately we're going to be rushing back into the status quo the way we were doing business overnight we will have a little bit of time to think this through we do when she come here in the united states you have a lot of you know t.v. is going on around the world so i do think that there's an opportunity. it's across the moments and invest in a better world for all of us because. there is a direct correlation between this disease these coronavirus and mansa structure of

nature we know that these kinds of diseases there are so a lot of research to be done but we know that these kinds of diseases oftentimes originate in nature and that our continued destruction and encroachments into nature is putting us warren more at risk of encountering these kinds of diseases so our destruction of nature is connected to this and. that's a there's a lesson there that i think we need to heed and we listen to or else we're going to repeat this over and over as you continue to destroy the last wild places on earth and we encounter this unsolicited this is happened many many times or fortunately a lot of the diseases that have come out of nature in the past few decades have not been as viral and oranges as aggressive as there have been other cases many other cases where we have encroached into virgin rain forests urging forests.

around the world not just rain forest a dry forest and. encounter these irises. are deadly but fortunately you know. i think it's fair to say that they issue of environment. is something that has become more prevalent and more important to normal people who become more aware that when it comes down to it still until lately we sort of sate satirists politicians when it comes to let it. so they stir me how do you attract attention to the green part of the problem well right now you have to compete with attention grabbers like fear of during an unplanned man and certainty so as we look let's take a pandemic in code 90 for example. people with underlying health conditions are more. susceptible to extreme distress or death from this virus

no there are a lot of underlying health conditions respiratory health conditions for example there are costs or exacerbated by poor quality to talk about the balance of short term balance of the game while we have to destroy the environment to build an economy i think endemic demonstrates that is not true that is a false choice because ultimately when we destroy the environment now or sitting in a situation that is awesome and well economy tends alternately probably tens of trillions of dollars now no one can argue that a little bit of conservation one of would have gone a long way preventing some of the activities encroachments some of the hunting some of the things like going on as exposes the diseases and more investment in conservation could have avoided this crisis is aimed at that as we intrude more gracefully into what's left of nature american academics like this one more

will come before what will come more frequently in late more than joe did this it is a numbers game the more that we expose ourselves to wilderness to these wild last wild places the more we increase the potential to be exposed to these are the viruses so you know epidemiologists have been saying for decades that it's not a question of if there is going to be endemic it's just when and we found ourselves unprepared to deal with it because we've ignored the scientific recommendations as currently in the world today there are a lot of people that have been conducting let's face it a war on science because they don't like what scientists are telling and so we get more science at our peril and here we are in a situation with this endemic that we in war didn't listen and our and this example has shown radar when we are baffled continue talking to you oh.

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and we're back with if he can stir up a nominee pretty sarah and her 1st film a hair exploration and my mental advocate he now there are calls for an international ban landmark case pleco 19 is the only to have made the leap from animals to humans and our wildlife trade in general however we all know that something exists already just bad and he will make it go away well or better in preventing future condemn it as a barrier to then well glad trade in hunting and spend resources in forcing the am or keep quiet markets open and under control without running them underground late extra control of what i think that there is a couple of incentives one is education. there's a lot of people in these kinds of situations in these rural areas as well markets that really don't understand the consequences whether. it's not necessarily their fault it's important for us to invest in education in these places and provide

alternative opportunities for people and livelihood. but we do in some cases need to control i think more and more tightly. the trade in certain species. species that are are you go into a lot more trying to do a lot more or so laws that are insists that's very important but you're right immediately demanding offices are so certain that they would be going to the bottom are already exists so there needs to be better education and there certainly needs to be better enforcement and there needs to be a recognition that we are all on alternative names. and also. when and how to stop because human stepping on nature's toes since a way head above and we're 8000000000 on the seris and maybe double that by the end of the century so humans need. president let's say over there well you know he's

and so habitats an eco systems are destroyed because then we allow many muffling their lives somewhere so even though encroaching on a share may well be deadly for us judging from the american how do we actually stop . well cities are a terrific way i mean looking at how we manage people and manage growth in this world we need to be looking at sprawl it spreading out and more built little healthy. sits in 90 days just one example of the consequences if units are a major when we think about the destruction in biodiversity for example in the last 40 years after biodiversity on earth has disappeared. now that has consequences on us i'll give just one simple example the pollinator insects when we started destroying nature the amount of. value that nature provides human beings is

tremendous simply the value that is provided for free by pollinators store agricultural sector which feeds millions of people around the world is incalculable and yet we are through various activities that that destroy these pollinators with devastating consequences for our ability to survive on this planet so there's so many different intro and layers of importance of protecting nature and thus attacking ourselves but one of the tools that we have we don't need to protect all of nature. i mean it hard biologists you know wilson said just a few years ago we need to protect half of nature for nature on land and half for humans and the ocean we need to protect 30 percent of nature 203030 percent of the oceans for these very special protected biodiversity areas that i think we can try . and ourselves as humanity did there's plenty of space on this planet we need to

focus on how we build little cities and then we need to decide where these have decided we need to reach these places that are important iow diversity. reservoirs to set those aside and protect them and not encroach there for example in places like indonesia and the philippines there is a lot of land that is available that is marginal land that is not very high and. it could be used for palm oil and gas but for various political reasons and the 1st incentives often times instead of using that land people are. destroying virgin rainforest so there is a way for humanity it's a little harmony with nature it is still possible with going with empty books and it's not easy but it's certainly possible one of the things we need to do recognise where these areas are. and at a similar tension is a plastic and the areas dangly or plesk version is on the rise and that's because

of the net collapse and quoting there that if they get a single user teasing your infection any even the bands against single use plastics like cross 3 bags are given away under pressure from of the history allover the united states to back them making a comeback after a long battle to them that that system and i just wonder in times of medical emergencies like that is the area they seek a trinity of 2 single plastic protests. plastic is not in of itself a bad thing. it's a classic in the wrong place at the wrong time that it's a bad thing it. has a role to play in our society i believe but as you pointed out the kinds of single use plastics bags things like that. that are a convenience but that it's all r r r r. from the medical perspective is a very small and very important tool that helps keep all of us alive at various

points whenever we go to awesome united v i.v. bags and you know us as unimportant but i think that yes it's laziness and it's the exploitation of certain special interests that they see an opportunity to try and reinserting spends of sillies don't even society in to us at a time like this crisis that we need to we need to be vigilant and not allow but we need the laws in the mass we really need all the laws a massive difference on for sure and i think in that case we need to be better we need to make sure that we're disposing of those 6 properly but they're not enough in the ocean. that i think that in need for cities classics in a time like this is not really extensive plastic bags could last days like that are they continue to be assured the ocean because remember what we have found the scientists have discovered is that these plastics so they break down into smaller and smaller pieces and never go away we're finding these micro phosphates in the

flesh of the fish that human beings are eating this is part of a we live in a cycle there is no system as a way so we are paying health consequences again for our use of this plastic is nothing for her and so the something like this crisis can't be. a blank slate account long for people just begin to polluting again when it comes to gloves and masks the absolute difference not on that will go hopefully when this crisis goes away but it's not an excuse as i stated in some cities united states as well i heard about people starting to use bad supermarket chains in what was the us act again because people can't use their own bags again i think that's. the role rolling back some of the piracy. mourner this time. maybe like an optimistic now as

a case fisher is not trying to say and he told me recently that it would actually be great if once a year there was a coordinated global event which would literally shut everything around for a week clearly the earth hour on steroids and let's assume that our economies can afford that what does he they have there because if you ask me a thing i think that a more effective way to help nature. is as i said earlier we have tools that we know work one of those is recognizing as we've spoken in the early part of our station that nature is resilient and if we give her a chance she can she can recover. we know that there are important parts of the world right now if you're 2020 no it sounds like it's very far away but it's part of the world and it's a huge influence on us and it's very relevant actually for russia it's $200.00 anniversary of russia discovery of antarctica and there was an effort this year. to

protect a large 4000000 square kilometers of ocean around around antarctica these are the kinds of initiatives that you need to be approving you need to be supporting and in fact this year on the $200.00 anniversary this area is this big initiative that i'm involved in that local organizations are are finding together works this establishing a return to area in antarctica. is one of those 5 tools i think would be much more effective it's part of the wall even though it's far away that regulates our climate. it's a part of the world the provides nutrients to the ocean food that spreads throughout the ocean so people that rely on seafood for the economic and social media healthy area of the antarctic. in particular russia right now has an opportunity. it's a leadership role in supporting the establishment of this marine ecoterrorists area

you need a single largest on servatius act history on the 200 anniversary of russian history in our office so those are the kinds of. of an issue i think are more important investing and we know that there are special parts of the world that we can set aside and that the benefit of that humanity for a part of me to our health is tremendous if we can do that and i'm to go as we have an opportunity this year as russia has an opportunity to play a leadership role in this year about protecting the syrian article it would be transformative. because we can protect alternately 30 percent of our ocean and we can we can stop the biodiversity decline threatens all it's those are the kinds of innovative ideas that we need to be established you know and if and leverage and you need to use large areas of the world let's set aside a few small areas so that nature can thrive and give us all the benefits that she

gives i think that's mission for the future that we have is a world where humanity live in harmony with nature we know how to do it we just need to put it thank you so much for his wonderful topher here etc your thoughts and her music cd and raising a thank you the authoritarian islam thank you very much i very much appreciate the opportunity excited in the course of the next hour to make you a cleaner amuck. economics is called the dismal science for reason it is often imprecise in almost always open to see what you want to see in many ways deacon omics remains an arm however the

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the headlines this hour medics to protest in paris figures show more than $50000.00 health workers became infected with corona virus during the pandemic. meanwhile in the u.k. a report that shows at the height of the health crisis in the country around 25000 patients were discharged from hospital to care homes without being tested but with 19 and after tens of thousands of coronavirus deaths in the e.u. and public anger towards its leadership over the crisis broke now accuses russia and china of waging a disinfo mation wall during the one and then.