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actually advocate. the one to give. his brain after every sort of settled in a sense in time and not now the internet. there is a major balancing act and in that case and the years in the streets of paris as the regal it's not free in the end. some hears it saying is there any real truth to the. trial stories ari said they are so private as serial writing of this that's you know it's a really good question i think it's a little bit of both as is so often the case certainly there are instances i would matsuda was where the air pollution has plummeted the air quality is better than it's been in generations that is certainly a result of a lack of cars on the road seen them away as it is and yes he was photographed just stunning is also a result of

a reduction in air pollution i think what these these images are showing us is what the world could look like in a in a different in a different future a future that we could go it's it's a result of a reduction illusion it's result you know a reduction of human activities but you know life gets back to normal unfortunately i think a lot of it away. so the satellite images shot weeks after strict lockdown started it also showed the air indeed became cleaner not only her late but over many interests or however the world is a routine china and after more than like a century of constant pollution turns out all it takes is no 2 months of sitting at home. and we're going to see the results does this mean that the problem of air quality is actually a lie easier to face than without well you know he doesn't he just has a few important things in there one thing i want to point out there's

a that i have a great concern to many of my colleagues are very concerned that people are making a false connection for the environment to succeed. the economy has to decline that's not true but. what it's showing us is that when we adopt the kinds of technology kinds of behaviors that can reduce pollution nature has an incredible ability to be resigned to bounce back as you pointed out in just a few short months we can transform air that we breathe imagine you know there's a lot of speculation and additional research summer early that. a lot of deaths have been avoided because of improve their quality in many places so i think that this is really a glimpse a window if you will what the world can be like when we start to adopt letter g. and start to invest in that kind of technology and make our air and our water of

your your goals so let's not get more any detail about what you mean by when we have a class and environment and clean air it doesn't always have to be checks that hose to economic downfall and that's a reassuring thought for many because well suppose that it is over everyone is going to rush to make up for their losses sack areas and start running again traffic will come back the construction exploration will resume carrousel all these positive changes we see in their environment i feel like it's not going to be there to stay for a long time and kind of lay at each it feelings about the what we think well i think that you know one of the realities coming out of this crisis is going to be a different economic landscape there's already a tremendous amount of suffering from an economic perspective as well as a whole perspective

a lot of unemployment and so i believe that it's our decision. now to decide what kind of a world we want to build coming out of this. assists for example in clean energy in the united states in 201-970-0000 people were employed in coal 2.3 or more 1000000 people were employed in energy efficiency in clean energy projects so the opportunity to create jobs coming out of this crisis and the top of the employment the woods. the opportunity exist to invest in energy efficiency which is relevant in moscow relevant in los angeles relevant paris hollow it doesn't matter where you are in the world energy efficiency those kinds of jobs and infrastructure and rethinking our energy grid that provides long term benefits for all of but also her eyes whole new industries for employment so instead of investing in some of the dirty industries that we out in the house and the the opportunity is to celebrate

our investment in clean energy and those are the jobs of the future anyway and so we can we can get a head start and build an economy of the future coming out of cove it and also having the double benefit of building a world with your new your air cleaner water for ourselves and our children. let me be more specific because this is like a very important topic what kind of measures more than what you said can be put in place so that after the condemning there rebound of a kind of a get will carry is when this office and mass it's an issue if you were president of united states what kind of tell 5 measures would you implement coming out of condemning in terms of a fading as such a nation and saving the good that we've done today lamb and during that time that you know a couple things that come to mind when i think about what we need to do going forward economically what is infrastructure grand building buildings higher end of

energy efficiency retrofitting buildings is a very very simple way that we can provide jobs with people who work face money by reducing energy consumption and building and depression. and that kind of infrastructure investment in major cities around the country would be to provide millions of jobs just there green building is absolutely critical retrofitting existing building is one way that we can from adequate review are the other things i would be looking to invest further in sustainable transportation so when we look at the explosion of electric cars that we've seen around the world the investment in battery technology investment in battery storage and energy storage is absolutely the focus of the future sermon on the perspective of if i had little dollars that i was going to invest in either traditional propping of traditional fuel as is the current administration's focus i would rather be investing in

technology the rest of the world is increasingly consuming and looking forward i think that's really important for minority perspective and knowledge is in food one of the challenges with one of the concerns around this crisis and a recognition that our global food system is. is vulnerable and so investing in people being able to provide food bill farms local communities investing in urban arms being able to allow local food for people with healthy food is something i would be investing in also can provide jobs for people for the looking at some of the fundamentals of our society how they were how we travel and where lives are the kinds of places below hanging fruit that. a skeptic will tell you that will most probably in the us of the president not in this type internet make that amazing right after corona is over so coming back to the reality right now could be

a man and situation actually worsen after corona because you know why i would expect the industry to be working overtime to offset the damages sustained during the phonetic is that something i think. you know from from the research that i and the people have consulted and in my industry there's a strong belief that the economic recovery will not be the shape as people talk about a you shape and you no longer recovery so i think we're going to have a pretty good on of months if not years before gross domestic product returns to refocus levels in europe russia the united states. likely years so in that case we do have a period of time so the thinking about how we kick start the. economy and it's something happen overnight so i don't think unfortunately we're going to be rushing back into the status quo the way we were doing business overnight we

will have a little bit of time to think this through we do have in washington or here in the united states you have a lot of you know t.v. is going on around the world so i do think that there's an opportunity. it's across moments and invest in a better world for all of us because. there is a direct correlation between this disease these coronavirus and man's destruction of nature we know that these kinds of diseases there are still a lot of research to be done but we know that these kinds of diseases oftentimes originate in nature and that our continued destruction and encroachments into nature is putting us war and more at risk of encountering these kinds of diseases so our destruction of nature is connected to this and. that's why there's a lesson there that i think we need to heed and we listen to or else we're going to repeat this over and over as you continue to destroy the last wild places on earth and we encounter this unsatisfactory this is happened many many times or

fortunately a lot of the diseases that have come out of nature in the past few decades have not been spiraling or as as aggressive as there have been other cases many other cases where we have encroached into virgin rain forests urging forests. around the world not just rain forest dry forests and. counter these irises. are deadly but fortunately you know. i think it's fair to say that they issue of environment. is something that has become more prevalent and more important to normal people who become more aware that when it comes down to it still until lately we sort of sate satirists side of a politician when it comes to edit. so they stir me how do you attract

attention to the green part of the problem well right now you have to compete with attention grabbers i fear of daring and unemployment and certainty so as we look let's take a pandemic in code 90 for example. people with underlying health conditions are more. susceptible to extreme distress or death from this virus no there are a lot of underlying health conditions respiratory health conditions for example there are costs or exacerbated by poor quality you talk about the balance of short term balance of the game while we have to destroy the environment to build the economy i think endemic demonstrates that is not true that is a false choice because ultimately when we destroy the environment now or sitting in a situation that is awesome and well economy tends alternately probably tens of trillions of dollars now no one can argue that a little bit of conservation one of would have gone

a long way preventing some of the activities encroachments some of the hunting some of the things i've gone on as exposing is that these diseases and more investment in conservation could have avoided this crisis is aimed at that as we intrude more gracefully into what's left of nature american academics like this one more will come before what will come more frequently in late more than joe did there's it's a numbers game the more that we expose ourselves to wilderness to these wild last wild places the more we increase the potential to be exposed to these are the virus so you know epidemiologists have been saying for decades that it's not a question of if there's going to be found it's just when and we found ourselves unprepared to deal with it because we've ignored the scientific recommendations as currently in the world today there are a lot of people that have been conducting let's face it

a war on science because they don't like what scientists are telling and so we get more science at our peril and here we are in a situation with this endemic in war didn't listen and our and this example has your radar when we are baffled continue talking to you oh.

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and we're back with if he can stir up a nominee pretty sarah and her 1st film maker x. laura and my mental advocate he now there are calls for an international band landmark case play calling 19 is the only to have made the leap from animals to humans and our wildlife trade in general however we all know that something exists already just banned what make it go away well or better in preventing future condemn it as a barrier to bad and well glad trade in hunting and spend resources in forcing the and or keep quiet markets open and under control without running them underground late extra control of what i think that there is a couple of incentives one is the education. there's a lot of people in these kinds of situations in these rural areas as well markets that really don't understand the consequences or that. it's not necessarily their fault it's important for us to invest in education in these places and provide

alternative opportunities for people and livelihood. but we do in some cases need to control i think more and more tightly. the trade in certain species. species that are already go we could do a lot more trying to do a lot more or so laws that are insists that's very important but you're right immediately damning offices are so certain that they would be going to the bottom are already exists so there needs to be better education and there certainly needs to be better enforcement and there needs to be recognition that we passed on alternative means. and also. when and how to stop because human stepping on nature's toes since in a way head above and we're 8000000000 on this earth and maybe double that by the end of the century so humans need. presidents let's say over the world and

leaves and so habitats and eco systems are this story because i mean we all love animals who we're going to live somewhere so even though encroaching on nature may very well be deadly for us judging from a virus how do we actually stop. well cities are a terrific way i mean looking at how we manage people and manage growth in this world we need to be looking at lest sprawl it's running out and more built little healthy. cities in 90 days just one example of the consequences if units for a major when we think about the destruction in biodiversity are for example in the last 40 years half the biodiversity on earth has disappeared. now that has consequences on us i'll give just one simple example the pollinator insects when we started destroying nature the amount of the value that nature provides human beings

is tremendous simply the value that is provided for free i pollinators to our agricultural sector which feeds millions of people around the world is incalculable and yet we are through various activities that that destroying these pollinators with devastating consequences for our ability to survive on this planet so there's so many different usually layers of importance of protecting nature and attacking ourselves but one of the tools that we have we don't need to protect all of nature . the eminent part biologist you know wilson said just a few years ago we need to protect half of nature for nature on land and half for humans and the ocean we need to protect 30 percent of nature 203030 percent of the oceans for these very special protected biodiverse areas that i think we can challenge ourselves humanity to do there's plenty of space on this planet we need

to focus on how we build little cities and then we need to decide where these we have decided we need to agree these places that are important diversity. reservoirs to set those aside and protect them and not encroach there for. example in places like indonesia and the philippines there is a lot of land that is available that is marginal land that is not very high and. it could be used for palm oil. but for various political reasons and the person sent it oftentimes instead of using that land people are. destroying virgin rainforest so there is a way for humanity it's a little harmony with nature it is still possible with going with and. it's not easy but it's certainly possible one of the things we need to do recognise where these areas are. and. tension is

a plastic and the areas dangly or plesk person is on the rise and that's because of the neck or nonsense quoting there that if they get a single user tesing your infection any even the dance again single use plastics like cross 3 bags are going away under pressure from of the history all over the united states to back to making a comeback after a long battle to them that that system and i just wonder in times of medical emergencies like that is the area they seek attorney have to single use plastic protests. plastic is not in of itself a bad thing. it's a classic in the wrong place at the wrong time but it's a bad. boss it has a role to play in our society but as you pointed out the kinds of single use plastics bags things like that. that are a convenience but that is all are are. from the medical perspective

is a very small and very important tool that helps keep all of us alive at various points when are we going to ask them you die the i.v. bags you know president. but i think that yes it's laziness and it's the exploitation of certain special interests you know. opportunity to try and reinserted spends it simply don't even society into us at a time like this crisis that we need to we need to be vigilant and not allow but we need laws in the mass we really need those laws in mass or difference not for sure and i think in that case we need to be better we need to make sure that we're disposing of those 6 properly but they're not ending up in the ocean. but that i think that in need for cities classics in a time like this is not really extensive plastic bags can. there's like that or they continue to be assured the ocean because remember what we have found the scientists have discovered is that these plastics they break down into smaller and smaller pieces and never go away we're finding these micro phosphates in the flesh

of the fish if human beings are eating this is part of a we live in a cycle there is a system as a way so we are paying health consequences again for our use of. this nothing for her and so the something like this crisis can't be. a blank slate a couple on earth people just begin to polluting again when it comes to gloves and masks the absolute difference not on that will go hopefully when this crisis goes away but it's not an excuse isolated in some cities united states as well i heard about people starting to use bags in supermarket chains in what was the us acts again because people can't use their own bags again i think that's that's that's laziness i hope that doesn't. roll roll him back in the privacy. corner this time maybe like an optimistic narrowcast

a case fisher is not trying to say oh he told me recently that he would actually need a great once a year there was a coordinated global event which when there is shut everything around for a week kind of way the earth hour on steroids. so let's assume that our economy can't afford that what do you really have things are going because if yes he amazing i think that the more effective way to help nature. is as i said earlier we have tools that we know work and one of those is recognizing as we've spoken in the early part of our station the nature is resentment and we give her a chance she says she can recover remarkably you know that there are important parts in the world right now and if you're in 2020 i know it sounds like it's very far away but it's part of the world is a huge influence on us and it's very relevant actually to russia because the 200th

anniversary of russia discovery of antarctica and there was an effort this year to protect a large 4000000 square kilometers of ocean around and around antarctica these are the kinds of initiatives that we need to be approving you need to be supporting and in fact this year on the $200.00 ben-hur strait this area this big initiative that i'm involved in that local organizations are buying together to support this establishment a respected area in antarctica. is one of those 5 goals that i think would be much more effective part of the world even though it's far away that regulates our climate. it's a part of the world that provides nutrients to the ocean food web that spreads throughout the oceans so people that rely on seafood for the economic potential need a healthy area in the antarctica to fraud and in particular russia right now as an opportunity for a leadership role in supporting the establishment of this of this marine protected

area the streamline area we need a single largest conservation act in history on the $200.00 anniversary of russia discovery an artist so those are the kinds of an issue i think are more important investing in you know. know that there are special parts of the world that we can set aside and that the benefit of that humanity for upon me our health is tremendous if we can do that and i'm to go as we have an opportunity this year as russia has an opportunity to play a leadership role in this year about protecting the syrian arca it would be transformative. because we can protect alternately 30 percent of our ocean and we can we can stop the biodiversity decline threatens all of those are the kinds of innovative ideas that we need to be established in any kind leveraging you need to use large areas of the world let's set aside a few small areas so that nature can thrive and give us all the benefits that she

gives i think that's mission for the future that we have is a world where humanity we are in harmony with nature we know how to do it we just need to. put it thank you so much for his wonderful topher here a separate class and on her music cd and raising a thank you the cartoonist la thank you very much i very much appreciate the opportunity excited in the for the next thank you 18 might. be a. economics

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welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is our to u.k. . but why was matter protests continue a london asshole solitaries cover up statues under threat of vandalism we hear from the aunt of an alleged victim of harsh police treatment. the u.k. economy shrinks by 20 percent in april the state has slumped since records began its business is a force to close i'll be talking to an economics expert. the u.k. government could face a legal challenge over the exports of riot control equipment to the u.s. during under a spot by the death to a point in police custody of the scottish parliament calls on britain toppled similar exports we hear from an m.s.p.

who supported the motion. and hope 7 of all pubs fear of closure amid worries that to reach a social distancing rules could severely hit businesses i'll be joined by the c.e.o. of the british association. black lives matter protests continue in london this friday calling for greater justice for britain's black community it's the latest in a wave of demonstrations sparked by the death in the us of an unarmed black man george floyd while in police custody that's his prime minister boris johnson urges people to stay away from future protests which he says have been infiltrated by unsavory elements were joining me from the protest in han park is not a new case to be surrounded. by very so we can see you so but what is the latest the way you are. for this protest the little guys. started off

in the hard part because there's no moving down groener very head towards the parliament square before eventually ending up in trafalgar square no this protest was due to be held. more robots now been moved forward to today there were fears because of a council rally organized by the football. collective of. who would be attending this hotel might be in danger from attacks by some of those people by some people on the far right so for that reason people were told to perhaps get hands over events before today and that's what this march is now it has been quite nicely organized there are around 2000 people so that's a good going to go to the ones we saw last week but even so it's been peaceful people have been marching and moving. to give you speeches the 6 of you taking over all the educating each other on what they say is that issue to do with systemic

racism now these protesters of course this process is people we did see on the weekend also 20000 people marching but towards the end 'd of the day on sunday there were some clashes between police and protesters and those protesters some of them told me the statue of winston churchill with the words the charge was racist points to his history in the years and bob where other countries under the british empire however prime minister boris johnson has hit back he's taking to twitter to defend winston churchill legacy is a man who he says forces against fascism and the feats of the nazi the nazis in germany but he also said that any acts of violence what represents the black clouds matter is a movement but we're just a case of infiltrates is what he said we're trying to disrupt and divide the population. in with these these demonstrations is the 80

tiny minority or she was a growing minority. have hi jack. and they are using them as a pretext to attack the police to to cause violence and to cause damage to public property so my unforeseen my message to everybody is that for all sorts of reasons they should not go to these demonstrations and whatever our feelings about the cause we should not support a demonstration that is you know probability looking at what's happened before going to end in deliberate and calculated god. oh if so then what is the government doing in reaction to all of this. well we're seeing the government carrying out reforms to what they say is criminal justice critics have described it as draconian some of the measures put forward by robert bucklin the justice secretary on the home secretary pretty to tell include foster trucking prosecutions

of people on protests such as these ones who are accused of carrying out acts of vandalism or acts of violence and also including the jailing of justice but in tried for i was increasing sentences for people who attack workers who attack emergency workers like ambulance and police officers stuff and so for those reasons there are been accusations that perhaps the government are being selective in their application and they seek to make these reforms because we have seen in the past for example supporters of the robinson attacking police offices and those critics say the police and the government didn't make those changes in the wake of those incidents and so there have been accusations of selective application of the law and also against systemic racism which is one of the main core issues with the black large amounts of movement. he's around me in central london thank you very much indeed thank you larry i spoke to claudine temporary who claims

a nephew face brutality at the hands of the metropolitan police she told me the incident escalated after he went out to investigate a commotion between police and a group of boys that included his younger brother. i don't know whether it was the fact that he was insistent on the fact that he was wholly in the midst of no good reason and i will say things went from strength to strength and very quickly he was being detained he was. and being very polite in the video that we will kill a. nice polite conversation very quickly got heated where my nephew was then bremer c.s. gas he was being pushed and punched in cheat by several officers and still he ended up on the floor he was serious gassed in his face once he was on the floor and all the time the family kept saying to him he is an asthma sufferer while he was slain

by car i can't get any we've also glares to comment on the video that we're showing with it as a said you can see it while you were talking and they had to get back to us about that but let's look at it from their point of view in these tense times where we're saying what's happening they would argue that they were simply doing their job what do you think they were simply doing their ringback job because. if you can see my nephew is. he's got and he's worked over all he has just come from work they were standing outside in and listen to issues street there was no. animosity there was no loud noise there was loading or loud music they were not confrontational to locally we knew just some watched the video or the 1st encounter of my nephew with him what you see him saying is can you stop it please what you mean even as he gets down on the floor he'll hear you saying can you stop the

please. lawyers representing an unidentified british citizen have urged the u.k.'s international trade secretary mistrusts to stop exports of control equipment to the u.s. it comes amid condemnation of american police use of such equipment against protesters there government could face a high court legal challenge if they refuse to suspend export licenses. the claimant is extremely concerned by reports that the u.k. government is currently permitting the supply and exports of equipment to the usa in circumstances where there is a real risk that such hue came manufactured military and law enforcement equipment is being used against protesters in dangerous and highly inappropriate repressive ways or meanwhile the scottish parliament has passed a motion that also cause on the u.k. government to suspend arms exports to the us hollywood says it stands in solidarity with the black lives but a movement the motion was backed by 52 votes to norm within levin abstentions it

also called for the establishment of a slavery museum in scotland to address historic links. well the campaign against arms trade has revealed the u.s. is one of the world's largest bond as of u.k. arms with almost 6000000000 pounds worth of arms licensed in the past 10 years there has also licensed 800000000 pounds worth a small arms to the us since 2010 and over 2000000 pounds worth of security and palmetto paramilitary police kits including county riot shields for this and i'm joined by scottish national party m.s.p. james stone and james thank you for joining us and you voted for this i mean holy writ do you think the government in the u.k. will miss them. as important for us to send that message that the scottish parliament stands behind the. movement and also the fact that were horrified to see what's been happening to some of the protesters a look there and if we can send that message to westminster that it's just a mob of pressure that it's not government to courtly through that same hole for.

not really you know i mean if some just rolled by claude and it's a chicken or trump i'm sure the problem is there were more of our goods that he wants tomorrow harlem school new to the people or the police use the money well it's all saying yeah you're saying this at a time when we've had the economic figures as well the economy has dropped by a 5th and many u.k. jobs are dependent on arms production and distribution do we need more job cuts jewing these unprecedented times given the argument ticks is the rule that says that we should then be allowed to sell anything to anybody because there's an economic benefit to it and i just think there's some things we have to do is you have to principals and people's lives ahead of the head of the process and look to see who the can build a market since the edible but a fear of the products and i just don't saying that selling stock stunned guns and some of the figures that you are quoting they are that in soaps america you have to

us what a country with america needs so much of that stuff from britain or we get the most has been used internally what we can see. advocate conway but isn't it the responsibility of others the people at the other end as to how they use it as likes let's look at drug dealers seeing year 1000000000 all i do as i get them the stuff but suck to them to decide if you want to use a law and i don't really take on board if you're selling some if example you shouldn't be sailing to some other countries abroad some the way it is that we all sell it because we know what the get used for and i think the exact same thing applies here in the case of the stuff that will sell to medical that's good used against their own substance also police forces they still need weapons to prevent criminal actions such as looting and find a protester that not only has weapons can necessarily be used for nefarious purposes it could also means for peacekeeping yes yes i accept up but you look at the amount of us on the boat that made a way to do that we'll send them over to united states a lot of which is going to be used to kind of the under this president to have to

snowden who is rolling to tear gas people. for sure you know i mean i don't really think that we should be encouraging some do it on bobby hill last piece that we have the u.k. government seem to be very keen to bring into accordion measures to deal with. a tech blog protest those and not all the protests those then i'm not surprised that u.k. government will more likely to continue to do that nor thanks don and thank you very much for joining us my pleasure. coming up after the break. british g.d.p. for 20 percent in the month of april the sharpest decline since records began brief here for an economic 6 but it. was not essential shops will reopen the doors on monday while cops fear social distancing measures will chill a business is when they start up again we hear from the c.e.o. of the british pubs association.

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back the u.k. economy has seen the biggest slump since records began the cording to figures revealed by the office of national statistics data shows the gross domestic product dropped by over 20 percent in april a load almost 10 times more than the previous biggest for it followed a fall of just under 6 percent in the month of march while the 2 months combined have seen the economy shrink by around a quarter experts say the dramatic drop is due to the impact of strict restrictions what to discuss the u.k. economy and i'm joined by finance expert professor karen chong go right thank you for joining us these numbers are very worrying aren't they but what do they mean for the average person. that's certainly a big numbers kate and it's not surprising that it should be so big because essentially large parts of the economy closed down over the last week of march and the whole of april to you are in lockdown so if you look at the will who have still been working this around 40 percent of employees have been working from home over

this period and there's a large number also about 10000000 people were killed in key workers represents about a 3rd of the total labor force in the united kingdom so if you add those together something about 3 quarters of production a little bit less than 3 quarters of production really the still being going on during the month of april so it's not surprising that over this period of lockdown we've seen a fall in g.d.p. approaching a quarter it's huge it's unprecedented but it represents the unprecedented an unprecedented nature of what's been going on during the lockdown as a result of that so the real quick so i guess that can just say that presumably as restrictions get lifted g.d.p. will start to climb quite quickly went it was a bounce back effect exactly should expect a bounce back and particularly we're seeing next week the reopening of a lot of stalls and a lot of construction activity for example has reignited already so we should see

something of a bounce back maybe not for may but certainly for a couple of months time we'll be seeing some kind of recovery the nature of the recoveries move whether we see this just as a very short term blip or something that takes a little while longer to come through remains to be seen because there is the fear a lot of people will not get their jobs back when they come off. is the need for more support particularly for the hospitality industries you're talking there about restaurants pubs hotels that have not been allowed to open as quickly as of the. parts of the economy and if people don't get their jobs back soon there though there will be a problem with the end of the furlough scheme of people being laid off an increase in unemployment and once that happens what has essentially been a supply side problem will become a demand side problem will get to a conventional kind of recession that will need to climb out of and that could be

somewhat longer lasting so they're all troublesome signs well now the coronavirus peak has passed and should be softened restrictions should be go to one meets and get workers back at that but also kids back at school as soon as possible but essentially something to the medical experts rather than an economist ok you need to strike a balance between the health needs here and the economic needs certainly this is a health crisis that is having very severe economic effects and so both of those things need to be in the equation was certainly the case is if you look down restrictions are relaxed too soon and that brings about a 2nd wave of that pandemic in the united kingdom and then we may need to go back into lockdown and if that happens the economic consequences would be even more severe so we need to be careful that that doesn't happen it is a balancing act as that jerry jones thank you very much talking to us this

afternoon. or not essential shops are preparing to open their doors again on monday after over 2 months of lockdown and it fears this may be too saying r t u k shad everest ashley reports. so i can confirm today the retail outlets which have been required to be closed will be able to open the doors again from monday the 15th of june. when it comes to high street shopping try before you buy has become a long distant memory during the coronavirus lock down 3 months on and the government thinks that reopening shops might provide a much needed boost to the economy there are concerns not just what the new no might look like but whether or not it's safe to take the step forward the how to indicators are all that telling us that it is too early to lift the lockdown the issue is people will come into the shops but they would also mingle and rude and after the shops and this is where all the shops may be

a safe place the process of going to the shop and then coming back home and in between are all risk areas unfortunately i think case numbers will inevitably go up under these circumstances so how my staff and shoppers be kept as safe as possible and what might the high street now look like well that to meet a social distancing role is still in place which many in the industry say simply won't work in the hustle and bustle of everyday retail some stores though are planning to supply things like hand sanitizer on arrival some will insist on masks although none of these are a legal requirement with clothing retailers shoe shops and even bookstores planning to quarantine stock up to 72 hours if anyone touches it obviously times are hard retail companies a moment might come on what they can to accommodate a lot of them bring the staff members back at one time they're doing it in groups of people the managers have been around and everyone's on the floor to make one way

system they've got clean stations as well they are being given face shield which go from the top of your head so the bot just underneath each him which i think is really great considering other companies have not provided. i'm happy to get back in into work and start working hard again the new normal isn't just about behavior but what stood out one study estimates as many as whole for retailers could fall into administration by the end of the summer clothing sells it down by a 3rd well known food related items in general don't buy as much as half while experts are warning the rebound might not be easy we still see a lot of our retail clients saying but i expect was the end of you and. you have lost revenue in. business what we know is that even the government 6 nations again we're not going to have an immediate because.

it's not just a matter of well. it's a matter of whether or not to do so there's a further problem with this brave new world will the public actually want to shop currently that's historically high levels of online shopping over 60 percent customer support new happens and technically the virus is still out there so will they need convincing to get back on the high streets and have really have liked so you can you can come to a shop and be surrounded by strangers but you can't go visit you know that doesn't make sense to be apprehensive about shops opening next week. or a big concern. you have to do to grow and do some shopping but. i'm concerned about safety i'm really looking for my home got any sort of place to say i was missing i miss. things i think that we're opening to say businesses and that businesses are important but i think the government should do more to save these businesses without having to risk people's lives it will be

a lot more contact and that's going to increase the chances of getting infected at the same time this good reasons behind it so the new normal on the high street might not be to everyone's tastes but given how fragile the industry was before the lockdown retailers will be hoping that the public gets used to it and quickly check out his stash the artsy london. the u.k.'s lockdown has dealt the hospitality industry a devastating blow with at least half of all pubs on track never to reopen then going to scotland have to separate roadmaps to get the sector up and running england has left the to meet a distance rule out in favor of wider spacing between customers with no specific distance requirement or scotland plans to keep social distancing rules in place in pubs with the nation's tourism chief warning the wall could stop many venues from reopening due to a lack of space. or more on this issue the c.e.o. of the british beer and puppet sociate an enema clarkin joins me and i thank you

very much indeed for talking to us well this looks pretty dire for pubs doesn't it but we can't risk opening too soon or relaxing social distancing can we. will this been devastating for the pups up to that has paid their part in the fight against cruel virus by closing their doors since march they've had no money coming in and of course as we are beginning to reopen our economy return to the workplace we need to also think about how we can also reopen the hospitality sector and also get money again for the home nations view this differently as we've been hearing scotland want to keep the 2 metres but england they could relax that. well this social distancing remains under review and it remains under review in england as well as it does in other parts of the united kingdom in fact we've seen some of the islands an hour of man every juice and eliminate their social distancing altogether so we say you need to be aware of the pressures on our sector if it is it to meet

a social distancing rule that means only one 3rd of pubs can reopen but if they reduced it to the w h o one meta rule they would actually be able to see 75 percent of clubs were opening so there's a stark choice there for the government if it really wants to kick start the economy within the pop sector then we need to look at these are distancing measures that social distancing be placed there when people have had a few drinks. i think it's important that we focus on the environment and we are working with the government to create the guidance about how we can create a safer work place in our pubs and also our restaurants and we're looking at what we can do in terms of measures to reduce interaction between customers but also between our staff and the public spirits as we know it will be altered as many of the parts of our life but we are taking every precaution we can to ensure that those citizens who measures can be in here too but of course we like to see that opening up the opportunity for more cops to open by reducing that to one meter by

the how do you foresee pumps and how they look like a sort of in the medium term anyway of bubbles of people outside drinking only what do you think is going to happen because it's going to be extremely difficult if you have 2 meters inside of a building for example that reduces your capacity in some cases up to 70 percent so you already limiting the number of people that you have in that environment so pubs will need to look at their out to tara terraces a big gardens in order to help them maximize a viable business model because of course nobody can survive in the us they can make a profit of some description and many of our pubs at break even point so if we want to have a cause for the long term future they we're going to have to find a way that we can keep them open and as a viable business finally emma i mean many pubs that were already in trouble weren't there we know has this simply put pushed many of them over the edge it is very sad that our great british pub will be of close their doors in certain instances unfortunately and we need to do everything we can to maintain the great

thriving pub succeed we have in the great be a reputation as a beer nation by making sure that we can retain that trade and that means that we have to find a pathway for it to open sooner than later rule missing the great british park and we want to get back there safely soon as we can show the deco that ever mcclurkin thank you very much. and of about with more news in half an hour see. the t.'s khaled international memorial awards has extended its deadline for

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hello and welcome to cross top we're all things are considered i'm people about economics is called the dismal science for reason it is often imprecise and almost always open to seeing what you want to see in many ways economics remains in our however the economic situation sets us all now is much more than about our politics it's about the way we will live for this foreseeable future are we witnessing a recovery if so what kind of. discussing the economy and more i'm joined by my guest and you know what the mark you know who she is and doubtless she is the c.e.o. and chief strategist for well intelligence a research and a little she is also be author of sped up in.