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greetings and sal you taishan. police are losing funding stone relics of racism are toppling and voices from almost every region of the planet have cried out in unison that black lives matter but that my friends still still has not been enough to keep us law enforcement agents from pulling the trigger on black and brown folks across this country late into the heat of the early summer night on friday june 12th atlanta police officer garrett rolfe chose to shoot and kill 27 year old rae sharp brooks for that most heinous crime of being supremely drunk and passed out in a wendy's fast food drive thru or is the state president of the georgia n.w. c p reverend james wood also rightfully observed this is not the 1st time
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a black man has been killed for sleeping. just 48 hours later after the wendy's burned in the protesters had to add yet another name to that now growing list of lives lost to police violence the world celebrated the birthday of a legendary revolutionary or a mess those. whose observations on what drives rebellion still ring true to today that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love it is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality. but the words and legacy of ship isn't the only past revolutionary whose spirit you can feel in the fabric of the protests we are witnessing today and whose birthday we celebrate this week across the country and the world from new zealand to philadelphia to pox your coors 1998 anthem changes has become one of the many featured songs that have made up the soundtrack to these protests in fact changes actually jumped to the top of i tunes
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top 100 in early june reaching as high as the 25th spot. born quite literally out of the black panther party in the 1970 s. and later becoming one of the legendary hip hop voices representing the struggle of black america in the 1980 s. and ninety's sure once quoted as saying i'm not saying i'm going to rule the world or i'm going to change the world but i guarantee you that i will spark the brain that will change the world and that's our job is to spark somebody else watching us . as we celebrate the birthday of these 2 great revolutionary voices whose time was cut short by assassination i think we can safely say the manifestation of their spirits live on in the fight for equality that we are witnessing today and that my friends is where we will start watching the hawks. in a city in the streets. that are so you'd like to see the prices you always
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just state and see all these drone strikes me as crazy suggests least systemic deception is the late show which would be so when the guild is. welcome or when watching the hawks i am i rolled into it and joining us today to talk about the latest news on the protests and the fall out of a murder or a sharp brooks. is that in the matter black eyes are on that and the legacies of 2 part of our is author and salon dot com editor at large d. walk ins along with him is writer journalist and watching mark social media producer evan springer thank you both for joining us today. and you're all right here we are at the height of change and protests in the united states probably the kind not seen in this country since the 1960 s. and early seventy's and yet during all of this we have yet another killing of a black man by a police officer under ludicrous circumstances at best devon you've lived in
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atlanta what are your thoughts on this latest shooting. well you know lana is really my home that's where i was raised and i can't stress enough that this is not a new problem that what's happening to brooks is actually in a long line of police killings in atlanta we've had the the police killing of anthony hill alexia christian catherine johnston oscar cain who was actually a community organizer was killed by police just last year so it's very hard as someone from atlanta to see this moment and to see so many people just now realizing that this mythical black mecca that we're told atlanta is is actually not the case i think for those of us who live there we've known for a while that that's not the case but i think the rest of the country is realizing that the image that people like the mayor keesha lance bottoms try to put out to the world that lance's the safe utopia for black people and we have rappers like killer mike in seattle who go on t.v.
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calling lance what and i think we're seeing that sort of narrative crumble in front of our eyes and as someone who is a child in atlanta i never thought that we would have a day where the mythical black mecca of atlanta is finally coming to an end this idea of it being a perfect place and even looking at this specific case with a rashard brooks there is video of it of course that's very heartbreaking to watch but it makes this call to defund the police even more urgent because imagine if the person who came to ray shards car was not armed officer but was a mental health professional or even was someone whose job is to get people home when they're out and they're intoxicated right there's a multitude of other options other than police that could have went to shard in that wendy's parking lot and we wouldn't be where we are today with this situation so i think that his case is so heartbreaking but it also makes people understand the urgency of this call it's a defun the police and think on
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a larger scale about what police do do you want your thoughts on the recent shooting death of overinsured. wow i. totally prefer to agree with everything devon just fit and i think that if it just shows the world how. i don't want to call people stupid but how stupid police offices can actually be i mean let's just let's just say that we're trying to give police officers some type of benefit which they don't deserve in a situation or in most situations but let's just let's just say here is they were trying to do that ok you stop a guy who sleep in his car right when you go up to one you pull him out the car you guys have a conversation he gives you a taser and he runs up ok cool that doesn't equal murder like for those phases you have to be 25 so 1st of all somebody a drunk person can probably tell you what you would say is there from 25 feet away
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so the fact that you thought deadly force was the only option shows a tremendous disconnect between police officers and communities and people who know they know that if that was a white person he would be allowed right now they would have booked them he would have got processed you know a little bail whatever came home and then he would have a day in court like he deserves because those are the rules but supposed to abide by in this country and it's just said it's just disgusting it's like these kind of do they even have like that and then that they've been watching the news do they know the climate that we're in right now so it's just you know it's some fortunate . i agree with you 100 percent being a member of a white sorority i have seen people who have been passed out wasted and have done some crazy things involving police officers one of my friends actually slapped a woman and not only did she not get booked she didn't get charged with anything they just made sure that she got home ok so i'm right there with you on that one we have a question this week we're celebrating the birthday of the both shea guerrero and
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talks of course where hearing tupac music during the marches and we're seeing his songs chart again pretty heavily how do you think pop legacy influence today's activism. you know i think that. is part of music will always always be relevant because he has so many messages that get. defunding the police and the problems that they cause now communities how racism is used as a tool to pot the school i went to. the people who were supposed to be educating me on this to talk. about the problems that exist within america in dealing with politics and dealing with police officers. changes when doing the introduction and then there's a lot of the changes i'm not going to use in the profanity but i'm just going to. be a good t.v. friendly version but it's cops don't care about a negro pull the trigger kill a black person he's a hero so the same thing has been going on the same thing has been going on since i
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was much out. of. pocket before i was a relevant and those that energy and being able to leverage a judge in a dress in attack this system is the reason why so many young artist still quote when they. when they go out to create music so he has a magical person in the in the you know he had magical language doesn't you know shame of our faces become an iconic image of revolution and change but but it is working legacies more than just a picture on a t. shirt or a parade has had his legacy influence this kind of rebellion against oppression and racism as well with the same as pox or in a different way than we are saying today. oh absolutely i think that someone like take a there and 2 factions are cut from a different a different cloth than the rest of us write like they have inspired millions of people around the world whether i am and have an i.q. of the or in palestine or in jamaica there's murals of these 2 individuals all over
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the place there's people who resonate with their methods i mean especially right now in this cove that pandemic people forget he was a physician and the reason why cuba has such a successful medical industry right now is because. he works to establish a medical medical sort of industry that included people who live in rule areas black neighborhoods and the poorest neighborhoods across the island so his message was one of bringing everybody into health care everybody into a society that was more just he actually said you should shrimp bull with indignation at the sight of injustice meaning racism sexism homophobia exploitation should literally make you so mad you're trembling and this is actually the kind of thinking that he had as he was helping to establish the cuba that there is today where there's free healthcare for everyone right and i think we can say the same
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about tupac sure he was raised by a danish or coeur who is one of the baddest in a good way one of the best black panthers that ever came from the black panther party is his godmother was a side issue poor who is in cuba right now so these 2 characters have have animated the life of movements across the world for generations and they will continue to do so i want to quickly ask one question when we're going to go to break but who to use a juicy figures like that coming out figures like sherry figures like to park coming out of the current movement the word that no one's talking about yet but we will be talking about 20 years from now the governor of the. i think that you know our i think that there are figures that are emerging right now and the people have good reason to be suspicious of some of the figures whose messages don't align with what the masses in the streets are actually saying but i think one thing that this movement has been good about doing is not making celebrities out of people are
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feeling that everyone has to be the next to the very core because if that's what you're going for that's not what you're going to be i think we will look back on history and maybe 5 or 10 years and be able to point the key individuals who did help get the police defunded who dig create change in different cities but i think right now in the moment it might be too hard to necessarily say to let you finish up or quit. a lot of people are. not happy with some of the bigger movements that get a lot of p.d.f. attention so they just like people becoming disenchant like you know someone like the bigger organizations who put forth some of the bigger figures who are trying to marry the movement but there's a lot of people i'm speaking from my small town there's a lot of underground people who are doing things the community the price of to make racism to make sure our students have something to love and look forward to when i think i think i don't know if those people ever going to get the praise they
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deserve in history about the phrase because i don't that's right. couldn't couldn't agree more i want to thank you both for coming out and educating our audience today about what's currently happening and also about these 2 amazing figures the history of our into box score thank you so much dee and have a sport always a pleasure. thank you thank you. all right as we go to break the rumor that you can also start watching the hawks on demand for the brand new portable t.v. app which is now available on all platforms any platform you can think of you will climb t v all right everybody coming up with calls to defund the police painted on protest signs across the country and now some cities possibly following through we examine the push to be fun with max remote author of take back the landscape to the watching the whole.
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deep on the pollie politicians and individuals on the right think it's preposterous could lead to anarchy and it's an all out assault on law and order. but some on the left find it equally problematic congressional black caucus leader and house majority whip james clyburn said nobody is going to deepen the police we can't restructure police forces restructure restructure reimagined policing. funny thing is that the fact we would be fun the police actually meet thousands of protesters across the country have come together to demand changes in policing following the death of george boyd brianna taylor richar brooks and general gration of blacks who've lost their lives to overzealous policing the idea of defunding the police
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isn't new at all nor did it actually originate from black lives matter the calls have rung out for decades especially in the nation's most over police and under-served communities deep on the police doesn't mean eliminating all police funding it means police will not be overfunded it means redistributing city budgets defund the police means narrowing police services because police officers aren't mental health counselors they're not medical professionals they aren't education specialist most police and calls in america are for nonviolent offenses officers are being deployed daily to address homelessness mental health episodes school disruptions and parking tickets all things that police are not necessarily the best equipped to trying to do well maybe the parking ticket. police departments budgets have exploded largely due to the war on drugs and the war on terror today police
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budget swallows 50 allocations preventing funding of services that actually do reduce crime like economic development programs education services mental health and housing report. currently police departments of major cities in america are funded in the billions billions with the b. new york city near $6000000000.00 l.a. in chicago near $1800000000.00 just think of how much cities could benefit if just a fraction of those funds 20 percent were allocated to services that actually have current prevention strategies that work. isn't it time we invest in these strategies and don't leave the bodies of blacks dying in the streets. joining us now is maxwell author of take back the land welcome back. thank you with policing budgets in the billions and communities feel failing and pulling hard under the weight of intimate poverty and if they make racism why do you think deep
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on the police if such a polarizing term we're seeing a lot of hate thrown from both sides of the aisle on this one and what do you think can be done to change that narrative. well 1st i'm not sure it's from both sides of the aisle it certainly is from some democrats and in some oppose the concept would be called on the right i'm not sure most democrats would be called the left strictly speaking but with that said i think that that any time people who are oppressed want to do one of 2 things either group move or one of the tools that the press is have available to them to maintain oppression or if they want to reimagine the society in a new way they want to think about society to wage then those who are either the direct oppressors will who benefit from the system of oppression often feel some kind of way about people who normally are not in power thinking for themselves and reacting for themselves with that said my organization pan african community action
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we're really impressed and hopeful about this moment and what that calls for defunding need in terms of people of reimagining the society we're not calling for defunding we're calling for community control over police not for defund the police we think that's an important distinction at this time it is an important distinction i want to ask you know because one of the big issues i always see is the mental health issues you know because like mental help it still doesn't have to homelessness programs suffer from a menace budget you know policing budgets are going to lose like they're the ones or suffer when you're poor all this money and the police america's priorities to me seem to be very misplaced what makes policing more of a priority than homelessness a mental health even when we know that the vast majority of those arrested actually fall. well into those categories of being homeless or suffering from mental health issues. well it's not really the function of police to take care of those issues it's the function of police to serve the interests of those who are in charge and to protect the wealth of those who are in charge and you can't really serve their
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interests or protect their wealth by taking care of people who have mental health issues or people who are poor or lifting up the lives of those who knew that those wealthy people require to deliver to them cheap labor so those things have to be in place and the only way they can really be in place is to have a an active an even over active police force that's to see in the united states. and in your view what does community policing look like and how can it be implemented effectively we think that there are various different comments from various different place of the balcony policing and what it actually looks like on the ground what do you think is actually affective in community policing and where thumb of the areas where currently having trouble. so just so it's clear we're not advocating community policing we're advocating community control over police for us the the important distinction and the importance. of the center of this moment is
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not relatively speaking how much the police get if they get to 50 percent of the budget of 40 percent of the budget and 30 percent of the budget the real question for for us is who is in charge with the police responding to what's happening now when you're seeing why people. call the police when they see any kind of what they think of as a transgression from a black person and effectively using the police as their own personal force the police are coming and they are enforcing that these people who we're seeing on social media in these viral videos they didn't just come up with these ideas on themselves this isn't the 1st time they thought of it they've been raised they've had years and years of this experience at the police is their way of controlling poor black people and poor brown people that's their experience in life it's not this door learning it has or seeing this on on you tube so the real question for us is not how much funding does the police get although that is a real question the real question for us is who is the police actually working for and we want the police to be working for low income black communities that we can
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determine how they respond to situations in our community and really protect us rather than focusing on protecting the interests of the wealthy. let me ask you real issue here is our the issue is not marginal amounts of funding you know i think you bring up from great points that i can agree with you more i couldn't agree more with me as he does would it help if you saw more police or you know law enforcement i guess whatever more call it come from the communities that they are supposed to be protecting and serving. i think if that wouldn't work then we would see in other words if there were more black police and that would solve some of these problems if that were an actual thing that what we would see is wherever there were black police in majority white neighborhoods there would be instances of police brutality of black police against white police but the the key factor is not the race of the police the key factor is who everyone knows without even
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having to over say it who the police work for if you were to get a black police officer who in his bones hated white people he still would not brutalize that white women and white men because he knew he couldn't get away with it and at the same way if you have a black police officer who doesn't hate black people but is working in a police department that is responsible for containing low income black communities then that black officer either has to actively participate in the brutalization of black people who supposedly doesn't 8 or he has to look the other way as the brutalization takes place right in front of his eyes we're seeing that happen all of the time so in that respect the real issue here is of the real question is who's in charge who's in power and we're sorting that during this moment in history this is our opportunity to shift power and to have a security force a safety force that actually works for the communities that they're in and that in that way doesn't really matter what color the police are if they know that by
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putting their hands on black people they're going to face the consequences then they would not put their hands up like exactly exactly delphine does the piece you just spoke about also include things like that that if interview boys or thing more and more 30 that are are going to have those now and that a kicker point is really high do you think that that would actually be effective. so reviewing someone else who is in power is one thing so if someone has the power and i'm granted the ability to look over their shoulder or to review what they're doing that's one thing but that's not what we're asking for here we're saying that we shouldn't just be granted the op to look over someone's shoulder and review what they're doing we should be telling them what to do and when they're not doing what we're saying they should do then we should have the ability to remove them so we're not talking about review at this point if we were to secure community control over police then review boards will be superfluous so just be extra we'll
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be just a review on top of power so there's no review board inside of the police department the police chief doesn't get a review board because the police chiefs in charge and the police department is in charge of itself so what we're really really looking for is power and there's a growing movement to secure community control of police in addition to our local organization and african community actually we also have the national association against racism political repression was just started in 1900 read launched as a national network and the primary campaign of that network is to have community control over the police all across the united states now i can say i got to say thank you so much for coming on and educating our viewers on what that looks like that community control please once again max rameau author of type back the land thank you so much for joining us today sir truly a pleasure having you on. thank you. ma'am there's a lot of interesting ideas floating out there how absolutely i mean i wasn't
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necessarily a familiar with the community out process that he was speaking of either the part about community policing but what he's describing is something entirely different and it's interesting taking the power back to him bringing him back into the community was aware this was that's that's powerful interesting interesting dynamics want to see the plays out absolutely all right everybody that is our show for you today remember in this world we are not told that we are loved enough. i tell you all. i robot and i'm a keep watch all those hawks out there never great day and night in. some control for
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