a little bit of that in the middle of the do you think of the little of them hey folks next up on dennis miller plus one what a treat for me he's 90 years old now still sharp as a tack still a little crotchety still a lot funny ed asner and he's going to new book up about coming up in the tough streets of kansas city it's called son of a junk man ed aster lou grant right after this on dennis miller plus one. day folks welcome to dennis miller plus one and still coming to you from home hope you're all doing well out there in a small tourist world we're joined by certainly one of the most on are certainly

one of my favorite t.v. actors ever ed asner is on the show today it's known for his role obviously as mr brand on the mary tyler moore show spinoff series lou grant he is literally the most honored male performer i think in the history of the primetime emmy awards 8 for 16 anytime you hit and 500 was 16 noms you're killin it he's got a new book out son of a junk man and add up from the bottoms in kansas city and we'll talk to him about his long trek from there through broadway out to l.a. and he still acting currently appears on the usa network show briarpatch opposite rosario dawson the estimable ed asner how are you my friend i'm for her good interaction well descended from. i will have to i will have it etched into tablets and presented through europe i'm a president i would tell everybody that there are their directions suck compared to

theirs numbers accurate and flattered by all not all it's like a nice day down there where yet i don't even know you an l a person yeah would you give those teeth these moves your teeth those are teeth i stop i yes they are. nice yeah i kid you guys don't know nice dog does off carly simon it hey i want to talk about you but i saw the paul rudd wrote the intro to this book john man son of a junk man and i'm wondering what is it about kansas city guys what's in your d.n.a. i'm from pittsburgh and i know i'll always stay pittsburgh boy i assume they are somewhat of a similar vibration and a hard working class town like ac what would you take away from it the stages through life can city were just a plain city. so it's not plains is the end of the plains because it's

a very hilly city it wrecks sits a matty right sure is new york i guess it's san francisco it's got these hero and i love hero it's mountains to be at the top of the mountain close to the top of the mound here center. what what about it topographically it sounds appealing but what about the the ethos that what did you take away from it it's about hard work it's about not being fully what's tell me about kansas city no one no nobody for there and here it is it's as we said yet ish. if you always say. yes. to this of a fish oh yeah on the table does this often teach on the

table and that's the way we deal in kansas city if you can put up that show. i see that the title son of a gent bed tell me your remembrances of your father was. no b.s. guy well we know no he was a very just a jerk it's taciturn it's. the air we could step mother he was chopping shingles it's him. and bella rouche at the age of 12 and he was soon got into the united states you were late teens and he served here cares is that he were he had lunch money lands people and he. took a few bucks and he got a horse in the wagon and he went around collecting junk. isn't that

funny that kirk douglas his father also to some degree the rag picker son and curt card just left us at one o 3 there's some something about the indefatigability the patriarch in that scenario that i think holds you guys in good stead for long lives here here we we took rags to their the 50s thing the world to deal with because assume arts dust but we could hear we even bought bones. you know what coming from such a proletariat background out i'm trying to think at what point does a young man who's collecting dusty rags and bones with his father in the middle of the country think that he wants to become an actor and a business and go to new york what was the lightbulb moment of the lightbulb was getting on stage having won the v.

lead role in a contradiction and finding out what magic there is. where there's magic there you'll find. i assume everybody when they talk about the stage they talk about finding a place that literally changed their life you can sense that the sense of fellowship the sense of magic as you refer to it the sense of camaraderie whenever i talk to people it no matter how famous they have got when they go back and start referencing their early days on the stage they get a beautiful smile comply on their face i guess it was the same with you or at near yes or near me girls it's there you go that's why i'm one of the books that's where mark lawrence and he joined the communist party to. yeah redheads as they say in the communist party as an old newspaper man i don't have to tell you that we might have buried the lead there by not saying girls

because that's always the b. story even with spencer tracy that select that the best of our actors including you always say and i got to meet girls so there's that too you go to new york and i'm fascinated by this credit face of the hero in 1060 was one of my favorites i'm wondering what it was like as a lad tell me about jack lemmon and that production at he was a dream boat. jack and i came across he said or 2 or 3 times during the course of our careers and each time he was never a disappointment he's a good guy a sweet guy you know whenever i hear whenever a or new york academe stories and variably hear the name little hog or sandy miserly strausberg i'm wondering to jeff a guru back that are we just learning it as you went a lot i wanted to study was my was there but they weren't taking anybody so.

i staggered into still armor and tried out for a couple of months and didn't care for it. and then i began study with mirror stove and she was wonderful she was wonderful while i was studying with her i had applied for lease trust bird. and then nobody came into his regular classes so while i was studying with mira i decided to give vent to leave at the same time he never measured up to mirror mirror was my stand on teacher and have them go to hell. you know when i whenever i read about stella adler it's usually in the guise of being you know obviously brando's teacher and she seemed to stress using all aspects of your imagination delayed until you settled on is your favorite teacher what was her

method was she more to hear into a method or what did she preach what was the swing thought that struck with you there do we use what every. utterance have a special doing how you wish to effect the listeners do. you have the 200 form whether to question whether to find out whether to to tell. miriam form so it was. i think i immediately did that method and was able to coast in the mirrors method. as mine were talking to ed asner and ed is 90 years old now he's still working as i said he's out there doing a show with rosario dawson it appears on the usa network it's called briar patch

you know i'm interested as you became known obviously you're in everybody psyche the hard drive take on ed asner is gruff i'm wondering when you were young were you seeking out or were talent agents deeming you to be gruff in new york or were you playing a myriad of roles that marriage or marriage are never settled. or. were never you could use a frat boy to me. i'm looking at pictures you my friend you weren't exactly frank corson but i wouldn't call you fat guy actor you did have you had sort of a lawyer in bendix 30 bork died sort of stuff that about you but i would say that. now. i work there are no jobs on i learn how to apply the fact. what. you're in new york you have met

me or you obviously have your guru you knock it out of the park i think you get a big score with 3 petty opera at some point a lot of guys are saying i'm staying in new york i don't want to go out to hollywood it's it's the devil's candy but 7 drew drew out there what took out the hollywood at wow i i got tired or new york i got tired of the unions not really being good unions i got tired of stagehands who did not put the play 1st but put their next paycheck for years and i wanted to be in a place where there was good unionism and good support systems all from top to bottom and i vomited california i have to tell you it interesting story real quickly ed i met what i meant karl malden one night and you must know karl i'm sure you're probably friends over the years but i said to karl i said you know karl

i find it amazing that elite has an a but shellbark 2 of the 2 of the leading spokespeople of the proletariat would name names that always glue my mind that they would be the ones you watch not or for anything but what a stranglehold on the human condition they have how could they be the ones who tired and ever called while they look to me said dennis you should lecture you don't know how brave you are until they change you to the radiator which was sets are well ian no shit set still hurt my spine. that's. right yeah it was it was a great image and i looked at karl and then later it made sense to me when karl was pushing for the honorary oscar for his ad i think he disagreed with what he did but he obviously understood that not everybody was brave enough to lift up their career and just go over to you know to london like carl foreman some guys some guys did

the deed and at least he had an insight into that that i hadn't thought of prior we're talking to ed asner he i want to i haven't even got to the ed as. his. sanctum sanctorum the the greatest sitcom in my mind that ever was and he one of the one of the premier players in the premier cast will talk a little mary tyler moore graph right after the break with our guest ed asner. thanks guys it's financial survival guide. when customers go by you reduce the price. to now well reduce some lower. that's undercutting but what's good for the market is not good for the global economy. join me everything

on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics this list i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. the people's republic of just a non-conformist utopia or a politically correct well take your pick nonetheless the experiment being played out in seattle is no laughing matter the ideas of law and order and the legitimate use of force are at stake a piece of advice go visit jobs before charles visits you. welcome back to dennis miller plus one where you she was a big difference. we're just talking about ed's nickname in the

community being the post-hole digger and how he got that he assures me 5 minutes after this interview is over he'll be out on his verdant lawn sons' robe. making an impression on the community you know that when you get out to act california i assume you go out with the ultimate you know it's great to go out models go and photo shoots with their catalog you go out with a couple naked cities under your belt i watch those old shows in a boggles my mind how great they are when you get to new york how are you received does it matter to them that you've been back in new york and theater and live television what was your reception when you get out there but i always felt that i could've. left chicago it's taken a plane in new york to change planes to. air and then proceeded to launch my career here. they didn't care whether how much time i had

spend in new york as long as i was from really york. city than i i must have talent and i could do them that way but i have spent 6 years in new york and i are i'm over well tell me when you hit the ground before we get to the m.t.m. show when you hit the ground in l.a. what do you do in procedural server would tell me some of the shows and tell me some of the players you worked with who made a dent on you when you 1st get out there. i fortunately he's had spent one of those make in cities film or you know larry and we threw a few people and came up with my agent some very good agent named jack fields. he. says specialty was trying to get blacklisted actors jobs

in the industry that were still suffering from the blacklist. and he got to work immediately if he got me jobs. what did he get me i carry member of the 1st jobs. mr novak that time who suffer. yeah franciscus yeah i know the route sixty-six here there. there was a calvin lockhart he got me. a movie with. those like room 222 but he was a spore cover my car was a squirts so he's never been heard from since. you know what it was taken can i can i take a 2nd and ask you when you talk about route 66 i obviously know maris and milner when you talk about mr novak james franciscus when you say calvin lockhart i have

a complete gap there can you explain who is who is calvin lockhart and why that i have here anymore he was elected a black jesus he was a good looking like hello who. did not have good. it's good conduct. here whore and he exhibited bad habits when we made this film and. they cared it's well you know at some point you can push it way far down the road in hollywood but when they start saying life's too short you're gone i've heard out of nowhere people thought they were indispensable you get to that point where they go life's too short you're out there. what tell me about that was it the same agent that you were talking about a sense yacht for but the mary tyler moore think tell me about who was there who to

read with tell me about your 1st memories of that great well like i said the greatest sitcom ever i read for ellen burns and jim brooks to create his habits. rared and after i finished reading jim brooks said son i was a very intelligent readings and i muttered yabber wasn't funny. and this is a we have you back to read with mary read it all we got wigged out wiki out and i know what the hell he's talking about so i said i said leave as oh we got we got angry this isn't funny turn around is that what did you have me read it that way now and if i don't do it well don't have me back i never took my dance before sense but it worked it well we do have another appointment but oh i go ahead so

i wrote it i went like i'm a sugar. crazy crazy crazy and they laughed. just like that when you come back to read with mary well i said what did i do honey and i do it because comedy is frightening when you don't know how to do it and you only learn lou it by practice practice so i began to practice i began to. repeat whatever i thought i had done came back in 2 weeks read with mary they laughed again. and said thank you i said really years later i found out that when i was out of the room mary turned to them and said are you sure. grant. so that standards 7 years of bliss he's

a slow on chat at look i just called zulu because i'm trying to think of a guy who i can less separate his character from obviously i've enjoyed in so many things over the year but boy you talk about somebody hit in the motherlode you were so him and he was so you i i just look back on it like i said and i have i hear that song i get such pleasant memories i know it's not going to be a simply show i know it's going to be hip i know it's going to be witty i know it's going to be brusque at some points but at the end of the day it's warm it was just perfect for me. good i'm good this is nice were telling her to. send me back you know some shows or some shows get asked to see a pot down there there specialness and i never got that off that show i would always show up but i think at any given moment any one of these 5 to 6 people will be sacrificed to a hip story line and yet the fight your way back maybe the next week they're in on

the group and somebody else is the out there and obviously ted obviously ted plays the sort of vapid greek or christian but boy brooks i don't know burns as well but i think about brooks's movies and boy nobody knows nobody knows the whimsy and the the seriousness of being a human being simultaneously like that guy unbelievable. you know it's he kept his eye he he worked as a reporter. in the media. oh i didn't know that at and that's where i started out i did not know that. it's terrorism vicki who i think about restoring marion jones thinks when you guys were hitting the ball at i can't imagine was it a what a schwab to v.v. must to have to go to work or maybe i'd like to think that sometimes you peel stories back and people got no i was heavy lifting when i watched you 5 sing

together i'd think boy they'd get to that that writer's table each week they must laugh they're like there that was an that that was an issue and you know it was 7 years then during those 7 years in the beginning i feel jealousy because they were concentrating on the women so march she she had to close leishman and shear roder and i thought god did have a god damn it and then firmly each one got a spin off off the show so then left mary with the borys and she use them well. we're talking to ed asner and as i said your lead goes on to do lou grant that's how indelible that character is folks that's how firmly entrenched it is with people that even go from the preeminent sitcom like i said ever certainly of that generation they take it over and they put it in an hour format as essentially i guess the term now is dramedies i just remember it being really well written

almost bochco like written what are your memories of the next permutation of look at over on the serious side well that was interesting and. i used to think i based my comedic movie grant on my 2 older brothers. full of bombast and slippery and and and some t.v. and then when i got into the our show which didn't have barfs or supposedly good math labs i said i can't do the same character with this character i've got to find somebody else so i did i dived into myself and came up with the character and you saw as lou grant. and it worked it word. say but it must been it must been weird to figure out how much of that

comedic look at the light fades out and how much of the more potter familias luke phase in very must have been a delicate tightrope walk like it was interesting because i was in therapy of the time the show opened. there are night t.v. and i. went in for my session of therapy and a 40 and said to me i said would you think he said what he grimace so much and i realize. there is it's a serious show but there laughs within it so the crew could laugh nobody could laugh but i wanted the audience at home to know they could laugh so i could stumble down the grimace i mean really stop grimacing once he made that 100. around him. if you married

then. and he went tearing yes i always felt. i've always felt the best shrink safe had in my life have looked across the room and be found the coat that i was hanging whatever my personality was at that given moment found the hook that i was saying it all out told me about it and then immediately. it fell away so i understand that projection and i could parse this and there were times i'd think my god of course i had to know this but until they pointed out there's that transference i never noticed certain things about myself then i was that young actors name and there i was a robert walton i'm trying to remember that that kid's name is now because he has your neck your i caught that but i thought he was a hell of an actor that kid beard's he is and he he. he knows how to get to the heart of a point. nice and easy as

a university it's easier the university of texas oh ok that's cool yeah well listen he knows of what he speak because i thought he hit the hell out of that part you know close it out i just want to ask him i'm always intrigued i'm 66 now i'll get 90 i'd be god bless me if i get 90 what do you see out of your head on the top gave you're like you're going you know one of them has been way in in in your head what age do you feel or do you feel 90 i don't know i don't know why i don't know i had 4 similar years we all were. the youngest darter 94 so i got in here to 94 and he's yeah yeah you got to keep up the family brand ed asner yeah well listen the junk band raise some good boys there and this is something you do john but. my life in the

west bottoms of kansas city is a bright lights of hollywood i assume that's the the man there who was the jumping off point for all these lads and where it's been a hell of a life i don't know you that well but i can tell you this from afar i've always admired your intelligence and like i said that's the greatest sitcom ever and you and mary right at the top of it so i thank you for all the laughs and all the insights over my life god who are your dads are pretty sure to take care yourself brother get new norad on that lawn. this is been dennis miller on his own or didn't have. very few. but back. international memorial awards has extended its deadline for submissions. all media

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