immigrant labor of political trouble for donald trump before the 1st case of coal the 19 was even discovered and they had eyes so what does he see on the political horizon now one on one with pollster frank luntz on this edition of politics. of the politicking on larry king in a to mull to a selection here the united states grapples with coast to coast protest a pandemic crisis and major economic woes 2 thirds of american voters say the country is on the wrong track we'll get perspective now for one of my favorite people one of the nation's top pollsters political consultant master of messaging frank luntz who joins us from los angeles frank a new c.b.s. news poll finds 67 percent of americans they the united states is on the wrong track another poll indicates americans are more unhappy now than they've been in 15

years does that mean biden's going to be elected. it's certainly not good news for donald trump and it certainly demonstrates exactly why the trump campaign has become so nervous while trump himself as criticize a link but i would say to the president if i was sitting in front of him right now don't criticize the numbers i understand what's happening out there down trump's job approval rating is in the low forty's his favor ability rating is in the low forty's is numbers had gone up at the very beginning of the virus but over the last 90 days where they have fallen why because of his language because of his messaging because of his precent haitian. american people want empathy they want understandingly want to know that the people in charge care about them it's not just law and order it's not control of the streets are 2 words. combination for the

average american they want peace of mind they want to job want to be able to put a little bit of money away they want their politicians to get something done and with a look now in washington and democrats are doing that not doing that well either larry that right now everyone in washington is getting cursed out because they don't know who to trust and hope in 1000 they don't know who's going to fix economy and they certainly don't know who's going to bring social justice. ways of a you tweeted that in my 35 years of polling i have never seen opinion shift this fast or deeply how did that happen. it happened because we saw it on t.v. and we saw it on the web and it was brought to us morning noon and night you read about it in newspapers every way that we collect information we realized that we were not the country that we thought we were we are still inherently good. we are

still inherently a just country but we have not treated everybody just like larry i've gone through an opinion change over the last few weeks and last few months and i'm not surprised that so many people have said enough is enough the question now is reach us to fix it how far are we going to go and probably most importantly can we maintain the principles of equality and freedom at the same time because that's what we're based on the chance that everyone has an equal opportunity not necessarily an equal result i don't know for ever going to get there but our society is going to change a lot over the coming months go ahead and biden represent that more 'd than one trump that exist when you can actually in all due candor joe biden is one of the

most emotional speakers of my lifetime. one week ago i was tense around the single best video i had ever seen in my life and it's bobby kennedy you say i know you've seen it for an ad minutes on and it talks about the assassination of martin luther king a few hours earlier and bobby speaks with such beauty and such warmth and such love and understanding and empathy and joe biden comes from that same school the question in this is all part of who we choose for president the question is whether biden is the same joe biden today that he was when he was vice president 4 years ago or when he was a candidate for president 12 years ago because in the end we're not voting for someone just on election day voting for someone for the next 8 years i don't like it when people make fun of his age my mom had dementia and i went through this

with her and i know how much it upset her when people would ask her what's wrong i don't know with joe biden i'm it bothers me when some cable news programs make fun of him or make light because people forget but the public does want to know is he capable at the age of 78 is he capable of 4 years as president it is a legitimate question but boy he's got the biggest heart of any candidate who ran this time and he is so empathetic and i'm going to tell you something i never admitted i had a stroke i think you know this 5 months ago and i saw joe biden after that show twice and he gave me out. that was so kind and so warm and he held me up and he talked about me and me it stopped then cold and

everyone who is there to shake his hand and vote for him are pissed off at me because i'm holding the hold then what joe wanted to talk about my health and my safety and my condition and not many politicians would have done that and i'm grateful he daily here is a good good man. was evidence of a just coronavirus he had a day a great speech yes and and but but we have the right to ask is this someone who will go the distance and i think it's a legitimate question i've i've asked it i think it's a legitimate question to actually mask you him and turn into around for one second is it legitimate for us to ask is joe biden ready for 4 years zaf air i guess it is that no choice. how do

you explain that the empath in that killing in minneapolis traveled greater than the killing of martin luther king jr the most harlem of that then they have a cage claim that there's a sadness yes that's going to be the best question i get probably all week and here is we know that i held up this interview for about 20 minutes because i was with members of the police here in l.a. i want to meet them i wanted to challenge them i wanted to listen and learn from them and this is what i do i try to collect information and ideas and opinions and experiences to those that we don't normally hear and larry i would suggest i've got a couple be able that might be great on your show. the reason why this went so white number one is it was on video it was recorded number 2 is that it was so

brutal and so indefensible because we saw on it this man was not a threat to anyone there's no one reason for this number 3 is that we've had crimes like this too often and i know that people talk about this a to 6 a black on black murder and how much greater it is one crime one death one tragedy like this is too many and them and they are acting and he said enough is enough but i'm going to answer give one more answer that black lives matter probably doesn't appreciate but it is true the white community said enough is enough back to 168 civil rights was primarily a black issue in 2020 civil white is a black issue a latino issue or an asian issue an anglo issue and it commenee of us are concerned about it today and not just civil rights not just about race but also about income and about our social fabric because of that we paid so much attention

to this and frankly it's it's why the changes are going to come. i know donald trump 40 years i had no idea he had this lack of empathy how do you explain that he seems to have no empathy he and so i was very critical in a tweet and i and i should explain it and this is a good show to do it on where i was critical that he used the words law in order. he is assuming that we have the same talent 6 is 1968 and i think you covered this i believe because of the 68 convention the democratic convention is unlike anything we have ever seen and larry at some point you're going to let me turn the tables on you because i want to know your great stories your beer is one another things that you have experience in us things that stand out but what in 68 they had a lawn or

a campaign but they didn't use those words and ridge unexciting won that election because of the so-called simon majority well if you count in the silent majority they're not silent anymore that donald trump doesn't realize that you can govern in a strong stable successful way and still use language that is warm and kind and empathetic he thinks that you have to communicate tough because you have to govern tough and i'd say to you it's exactly the opposite we want to know people who understand us and who empathize with us that's me don't want to hear somebody talks about dominating the streets and my proof larry and this is a trump numbers and gone down over the last 2 weeks. he uses this week to issue an executive order to take in of a big of the obama administration he constantly slams obama is that is that going

well form or not. you know i i i believe that his actual record. is stronger than what people are given credit for and i believe that he gives the media the ammunition to turn his own words against him i really do believe that the economy before cove it was the strongest economy of my lifetime. we had a 3.5 percent unemployment rate i was taught in school that the unemployment rate for america was 5 percent marry never get a below that and $100.00 front is low as it had been in 50 years the lowest unemployment rate for african-americans for latino to the greatest wage increases in decades no matter how you measure it the economy before cope in $1000.00 was so strong he got no credit for why because it was messaging was undermining his

governing and i know that this is a show about substance not about style larry style does matter in politics and trungpa take this as such as she was insulted he sont but it's not it's simply saying to him the reason why you're not getting credit for all that you've done is not just because the media doesn't like you is we cuz what you say isn't michael how you say it is unlikeable us speaking to the 40 percent that are your core base and you are alienating the 40 percent who are against you and the reason why you're losing them doesn't mean you're going to lose but the reason why you're losing now is that undecided vote 6 percent of america actually approved of a lot of what you did and they don't like how you say it and they're going to vote against you unless you change in message. we'll be right back with more politicking

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tourism. investments we will have continuing very deep economic crisis. some can full for a middle class to homeless overnight most of them are very hard working people who want to get ahead that have either have some some health issues or have some of it out of strict about luck a full time job won't always pay for a place to live and missing just a month's rent can get she will victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. you better catch up real quick or you're going to have a judgment of possession against you and get addicted anyone that's homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time it's not the case see how it is to be pole in the world. richest country.

what about the politicking continuing the conversation with frank luntz pollster political communications consultant maybe the best in the business he joins me from los angeles how bad is that things couldn't get worse or you make of his trying to stop the bolton book from coming out. i know that the president doesn't like criticism he says he doesn't mind it he says that people can say whatever they want to say about him but he really does enjoy it another prize because i think the book will reflect badly on the administration. i think that what matters most right now is the unemployment rate in fact i can prove it when we ask people how you judge the strength of the economy which is how they are going to judge talent from number one is unemployment number 2 is the cost of living number 3 is your own financial

condition and least important is the stock market it doesn't matter what people say about trump we've heard it all before it doesn't matter to some degree with the media report on donald trump we've seen it all before we know what we're going to get from fox from c.n.n. m.s.n. he said there are no surprises we know what you're going to get from books like this what we don't know is whether the economy will be heading in the right direction cannot tobar a 2020 so i'm telling people right now nothing is a better indicator of the election results in november then the last unemployment numbers that are issued in october if our unemployment is below 10 percent and has a reasonable shot of being reelected because everybody was predicting that it would be 25 percent or 20 percent or something awful. surge of the pandemic was he did he did too little too late so that's

a policy question and posters should be very careful about policy people want to know what other people think they don't want to get prescriptions they don't want to see are those kind of details but but but out of respect for you the public thinks that he should have done more any years the number to my surprise 70 percent of americans want to prioritize the health and safety of the country and only 28 percent want to prioritize economy and economic conditions and in terms of opening up or staying closed it's $2.00 to $1.00 the public would still rather have this country open up safely and sensibly rather than throwing open the doors right now so i know that a majority of americans do not support the position of the federal government and frankly a majority of americans do support what their governors are doing officials in

tulsa are asking the president not to speak saturday because of their rise in cover 19 of the having a problem with in tulsa you think kilis i'm the last time that that a democrat won oklahoma i think was thomas jefferson i mean it's been decades it's been centuries why is your speech in a state that you have no downs of losing why is he not going to pennsylvania or wisconsin or north carolina north carolina samas fully open in north carolina swing states florida is almost fully open florida's a swing state. no i think that i would listen to the governor of oklahoma and what the governor had to say and i would ask the governor to put his citizens i had of political gain but if i were again there in the oval office and the president said

what about this speech i would say sir why are you going to oklahoma when there are other states that are in play maybe this isn't the best idea at this moment maybe he wants to have the cheering you know how he loves that yes but he can hit a sharing in north carolina he won north carolina get it sharing in pennsylvania you can hear the cheering in florida down a truck i think give you a list of 20 major metropolitan areas that donald trump would hear the cheering i just question the priority and if there is a health issue right now and we know we've got one going on in a few other states if there's a health challenge and georgetown where you go why on earth won't he wear a mask now i get this and i'm and that i may not agree with it but i

understand it he wants to show a sense of security that as a present a united states e.g. to set an example and you do communicate either confidence or you communicate fear and once again i think larry i know where you stand and probably you and i are pretty close on this and i understand why he's not doing it and i don't know what he does in private we don't know what he does in these meetings we don't know what he does. in the in the east wing. but. i think there are things that are much more important to me i really do care about the morbidity rate of this disease and even though we have more diagnosis we've got more people who are found to have coded our hospitals are actually not getting overrun and

less and less reruns and i'm from so we're learning how to treat it learning and to deal with that i'm equally concerned about the economy and now we get back up on our feet because you cannot have a successful system at 12 or 13 percent unemployment and the injustices that has been suffered within the african-american community and the rage and the. are tend to pull his country together i think that those will have a greater impact on the election in fact of the line i don't imagine more than 10 people voting for or against sound trumped whether or not he wears a mask i do imagine millions of people who are still in decided waiting to see on the economy involves whether we do have a 2nd wave of the virus and whether we can achieve a situation of social justice and quiet in this country what did you make of his

unsteady unsteady walk at west point going down that plane. and example he had done a press conference a day a day before and he walked out from the. from the oval office to deliver it was in the rose garden and he was fine i don't know how steep those steps were i don't know of the steps or west i make nothing of it and as you can sound. i have no i am no longer really partisan anymore and no longer taking sides anymore i've lost that and i'm glad you lost it and those things really should be held responsible for which it is a lack of empathy which is a lack. of understanding a fear that so many people have i had it i acknowledged it the president was very critical of a couple reporters and the questions they asked because he said you're just afraid

i'm afraid and i meant this and if you wanted to sit dismiss me because i'm afraid fine go ahead but i don't want to criticize him on things that either are undeserved or i feel don't don't signify anything and so i don't think he said i think that's got nothing to do with it and there are other things that i'm much more important. right but it's things as we sum up in don't look very rosy for the president correct what war is going to take a miracle to turn it around is he that far behind. it does not take a miracle but it does say donald trump this election he seeks to make it a referendum and i understand why because in the and you've got to include joe by this in this equation it is not just voting against donald trump you have to be willing to vote for someone they're imitating back to 2004 john kerry should have beaten george bush but in the end kerry made the case against the president

but he did not ever make a case for himself and that's why he lost the election in 2016 hillary clinton ran the worst campaign probably in modern times she won the popular vote but she lost the electoral college because she wasn't going to the states that matter in responding to her time in arizona and nevada which is foolish and donald trump went to where he needed to go and the last thing i'd say about this is the baits because in the end debates matter and environed by zing down trump i would tell him debate joe biden by times not 3 i would challenge him to a debate every single week in the last week or so tender to the 1st week in november because i think that that is where trump will excel and i think that that might be

a challenge joe biden when i remember him it was one of the greatest debaters that i have ever seen but he's not his object in having him as a champion it was his and he spoke from the heart as well as him that he was a perfect combination of intellect and heartfelt. but if i were trump and i wanted to take the elections in and i wanted to be a comparison there is no better way than a debate and i know we're going to end this interview here larry. i always enjoy these exchanges and the idea of having an election without you commentating but you gotta give me that chance i want to ask you about your best interview i want to know about sure since you i know people who watch you want you to talum about the biggest mistakes you made and the greatest successes you made they were delivering. soon as this election is over soon as we are past november you will

come on and host the show and you can ask me anything you want ok i agree with that except with one exception let me do it now let's put it make. ok we'll get to it let's put it in the can or i will arrange than a will tape it by the will tell you something you probably don't know because go on to told me this he and kennedy had planned to try to debate weekly to cut down the cost of campaigning to make it easier on travel they were the in the $64.00 race they were going to debate weekly we may get that brilliant that same strategy in 1964 should happen in 2020 not because it's good for any candidate but we are so divided and we only collect our news to affirm us rather than inform us i'm going to tweet out after the show airs that donald trump and joe

biden should do the same thing in 2020. goldwater told me that so all i know it was true thank you very much frank thanks for joining us today as always thank you larry and thank you audience for joining me on this edition of politicking a member you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at kings things and of the get use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking. geysers by that'll survival get. customers go buy. in now well reduce the hour. that's undercutting but what's good for markets it's not good

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