talladega so we'll be getting into that as well later in the show naomi scherr vonnie will break down the militarization of our police and anders lee will get into the insurrection act of $1807.00 which trump said he wants to use to go to war with protesters but 1st here's my interview with eleanor gold eleanor thanks for journeying all the way from our podcast to my show i appreciate it. thanks so much for having me i want to get to the new film and a moment but let's start with the nationwide black lives matter protests you've been at some of them as have i but you were pepper sprayed and saw some harsh police action can you talk about that and how journalists have been treated so far in these protests. yeah i think it's an interesting thing that the folks kind of erupted in shock folks that aren't already familiar with alternative journalists and and all of the things that we have to deal with but when c.n.n.

reporters were arrested during the minneapolis protests everyone lost their minds like this is so un-american and when i went to the protest here in washington d.c. roughly a week ago i remember connecting with a fellow journalist friend of mine and we both kind of chuckled at that like really that's un-american because i'm pretty sure that's very american you know this is something that we've had to deal with both as activists but also journalists who try to report on these things from the frontlines places that often times reporters from corporate media don't even go you know i'm thinking about like pipeline fights and things like that where journalists just like the activists that they were reporting on are routinely brutalized by the police and other law enforcement agencies so the idea that this is somehow a new is really absurd it's just that because of the scale of these protests and because corporate media was actually paying attention and then got into the line of fire with other journalists this is suddenly coming to coming to the to the surface

and folks are realizing that it is actually very american to target journalists in this way and it's something that independent and alternative journalists have been dealing with for quite some time yeah you're absolutely right you know when c.n.n. was arrested so for those who don't know c.n.n. one of the reporters was arrested on camera live on air and the cops could clearly see he was a reporter and they arrested him anyway and then they walked back the governor apologize all this stuff but like you're saying independent journalist alternative journalists that have been generously their cattle they're arrested they're targeted with pepper balls and rubber bullets that cause can cause extreme injury not nothing new they're trying to talk about the protests in a broad a broader way we've seen. you know black lives matter protest before nothing seems to really change besides maybe a little tinkering around the edges in a city here or there but this time around especially the democrats have acted like

they're taking action this is different. loud here in d.c. to paint black lives matter on the streets outside the white house nancy pelosi and the democrats just the other day they kneel down i think it was in the maybe the senate office building or the senate or something with kneel down with african garb around their necks does any of this mean something do you think this means changes around the corner because nancy pelosi took a knee. yeah i believe that was monday june 8th that this happened in the a man so it was known as the emancipation hall and congress and i couldn't help myself i tweeted out that the next act will be nancy pelosi in blackface acting out scenes from the color purple i mean this is absolutely absurd and and it really speaks to the fact that congress isn't interested in acting any kind of policy changes they want these kind of performative these performative acts this theater

of caring which has no parallel in actual policy or legislation that would make the lives of black and brown folks any better and you mentioned the the painting of the street here in washington d.c. if folks are familiar with 16th street that leads all the way up to the white house mayor browser commissioned black lives matter to be painted so you can see it from space on this on this bit of 16th street and renamed it lacked live matter plaza well in response black lives matter d.c. went on went on to the street this past this past weekend and painted equals defunds the police and several folks several organizers with black lives matter in washington d.c. have noted that mayor bowzer the mayor of washington d.c. doesn't like black folks in d.c. and has routinely stood in the way of any sort of accountability with regard to police brutality and police violence and even things like access to health care for black and brown neighborhoods in the district so the idea that by painting these

words on a street and washington d.c. means that black lives actually matter is ridiculous and black organizers in the district are not buying it. yeah i think we have to wait and see whether there's any action and keep the protests have to keep going the politicians have to fear for their jobs in order to actually create any change so i want to move on to your documentary hard road of hope it's a beautiful and powerful film why did you feel the story of west virginia's past and present needed to be told. well to to put it bluntly i guess west virginia is a micro cause i'm of the united states west virginia is considered to be the place where it's just a bunch of trump voters it's just a bunch of hillbillies and rednecks and it's a throw away state with throwaway people right and and what i wanted to show was that it's this is really

a microcosm of the united states because 1st off the brew going to talk about places being throw away places because they've been destroyed by industry going to be in the direction of anyplace in the united states that hasn't been destroyed by industry any state that can claim that is there any people that can claim that they haven't been misused and oppressed by industry and by the corporate state no just the west virginia is kind of known for that and for a lot of a lot of reasons it's the 2nd most rural state in the nation it's the 3rd poorest it has the un coveted 1st place of the opioid epidemic and that's largely because of isolation and trauma and stress and because west virginia was in fact founded as a resource colony for the union for the union in the civil war for cohen jumpers so you have to bring that up to explain a little more about the founding of west virginia because i hadn't realized yeah so there are a lot of like nice flowery stories about how west virginia was founded to be a slave free state during the civil war 963 but that's nonsense one

as another example of this whitewashed us history that we're all taught in schools in reality a bram lincoln went to the people who owned the railroads that was coal industry that was industry in those days coal in timber and said look i need to keep these supply lines open or for the union army and if you do that for me i will give you a state i will basically take this chunk out of virginia and give it to you and that's basically what happened and so west virginia was legitimately founded as a resource colony for the for the interests of the union union army during the civil war. and that had nothing to do with lamebrain there were plenty of people in that part of what was then virginia that were happy to continue owning human beings so that really just speaks to that that whitewashed misrepresented history there. the film gets into some. amazing historical.

historical events that have plagued but also just like currently the way people's lives are destroyed in west virginia by the coal companies by the fracking companies it took me by surprise one thing that is that you get into is i mean they get so creative with how to screw people really and it's truly just some sort of brilliant it's like the einstein of people over to come up with the difference between the surface rights versus the minimal right mineral right now correct me if i'm wrong is basically like someone thinks they own their land own their farm own their whatever and they've owned it for you know a 100 years and then the coal company or the fracking company comes in and says oh you only own the surface your own own what's underneath we just bought that so now we're just going to tear through your land and get what's ours underneath your house. yeah and somebody that somebody mentioned it to me in this way says it's

as if the doctor said well when you own your skin your organs we're just going to go ahead like root around in there and met you know maybe take a kidney you need both but it's this is and for a country that is so obsessed with property right the pursuit of happiness being synonymous with the ability to own property you know this is this is everything from the libertarians to the liberals folks are really obsessed with this idea of owning your property but in reality you don't and we can talk about how property rights are just sort of a collision other colonialists manifestation but for those who are really proud of owning that property there is that and west virginia is just one example this is something that happens across the united states the division of the land so basically surface rights are are what you could plant you know it's what you it's molding your lawn it's planting some. agriculture and farming etc but the actual minerals the oil and gas the cold you know anything that might be under

there that you really have to dig for can be bought and sold 'd and is bought and sold very frequently to the highest bidder in these in these areas and so for instance in west virginia with the fracking boom what we're seeing is a continuation of these tactics that originated with the coal industry the idea of separating the land based on what's profitable and what you can grow some tomatoes on and so the the what's what's happening in west virginia and other parts of the country as i noted is you have horizontal boring for instance where fracking companies will set up a. well pad on the neighboring lands to yours and then use directional drilling and go under your property and basically steal those mineral rights minerals right out from under you and of course this isn't just about like taking that quietly and moving along not only is it a horrendous lee lab it's horrendously polluted. and folks are experiencing not just in their own personal body and sicknesses and illness but also in terms of

their crop dying because of course this pushes all kinds of chemicals you know fracking chemicals methane gas in the surface trees are dying animals are dying without any explanation and then of course industry can turn around and say we didn't do it and believe once they've extracted the the minerals from that land there are some connections between the current nationwide fight against our police system against police brutality against. all of those things. and the connection between that and the corporate destruction of west virginia which is seen in your film even though this film was was. taped and filmed before these protests most recent ones have broken out you know the police are used as the fist of the fascist corporate state so when a corporation wants to destroy an area they use the police on that area to defend

their violence to allow their violence to go forward against people's lands and livelihood and against the natural world and to fight back and use those police to fight back the actual citizens of that area we saw this in standing rock is probably the one people are most familiar with but it's really every fight a pipeline fight ever so can you talk about the connections you see between the current protests sweeping the nation and what we see in your film. sure and you make a brilliant point you know people we cannot fight single issues because people do not live single issue lives and then there are definitely parallels i mean the people that are suffering in west virginia which is where i focus my film. have long histories of oppression and propagandize a nation in the resource colony and of course what folks are experiencing now and drawing these connections to a past. of police that were founded as slaves patrol that's the history of the

united states police force and a police force that never let go of its racist foundation and so the parallels here are very very strong and it's important that as you note that we recognize the role of police whether that be in protecting a coal mine or protecting a dirty energy project or indeed protecting an increasingly fascist state from the people who are demanding change these parallels are necessary and part of the film is also to make note that we as organizers particularly as white organizers have a job to reach out to the poor white communities particularly in the south that are right for us for racist organizing and connect them to their own radical history which is one of organizing with black brown and indigenous folks against the oppression of the state well it's a beautiful film congratulations on it people can watch the film right now at a hard road of hope dot com and working to find other work like your photo essay

you just put out on the protest. that is up at art killing apathy dot com thank you so much. thank you for go a short break but check out the weekly podcast i do with eleanor goldfield it's called common sense search for you wherever you get your podcasts and check out my new book at least camp booka dot com i'll be right back a lot more. 6

. and so you can't get away from advertisement you change your appearance and. many local people see plastic surgery as a prerequisite for a successful career employers are often most interested in the job seekers appearance as a graduation present which often don't use plastic surgery for an extra few even the eyelids to make their eyes on the bigger. most every coming teenager dreams of looking just a little. welcome 2 back i'm still a camp our police force here in america police force is have gotten heavily militarized over the past 20 years weapons of war are regularly given to local

police forces and it seems they don't hesitate to use them for more on this we go to reactive correspondent and we care of thankfully police are. king and acting more like soldiers on a combat mission to protect targets reasonably priced paper towels and bluetooth speakers and you might say that police look no different than an occupying army looking for osama bin laden when they're attacking protesters armed with construction paper but in fact your average police officer in some ways is more powerful than your average soldier the police have legal protections that give them more freedom to do harm than an american soldier had fighting the taliban in afghanistan the rules of engagement sometimes were stricter than use of force rules for civilian police in america unlike the battlefield cops are encouraged to use force and sometimes punished when they show restraint one cop who didn't shoot

unarmed black man was later fired for not shooting him turns out the good apples don't get spoiled they get thrown out the cops are going for more of an apple sauce anyways in 2016 and where it's in west virginia officer steven mater arrived at the scene and he didn't know that r.j. williams gun was unloaded and he was trying to commit suicide with the help of a police officer a major didn't perceive him as a threat because for one he was aiming the gun at the ground and also williams said just shoot me and not in the sarcastic way. in former officer major's words. drum i want to. jump the gun draw there's nothing i want to do i just shoot me and sometimes your brother just put the gun to other officers showed up later and fatally shot williams and soon learned that the gun was unloaded matre was fired 10 days later according to police

due to negligence on his part during the incident jeopardizing the safety of the victim as well as the other officers on the scene neglecting he assess the situation correctly he got it right metres lawyer said it's the blue lives matter more theory of policing when in doubt shoot then the officer fired by local police joined the national guard meaning he was unfit to carry out his duties as a police officer but not unfit to carry a weapon with the military unfortunately statistics show military trained cops are more likely to shoot a weapon even though they were trained to have more restraint in a war zone because when vets become cops they're probably a leg. wow i can't believe i'm getting away with this shooting like this my old drum this would've been a war crime while police roll up and tangs protesters armed with cardboard signs

and receive billions worth in pentagon surplus gear they're not given the same training and confronting threats with military gear in war zones and the required to use military hand me downs within the year or they lose it this defense department initiative known as the 1033 program will requires that law enforcement agencies make use of such military surplus equipment within a year of acquisition effectively mandating that police put it into practice in the public space police are probably happy that these mass protests are occurring there like out there like luck that i use the mine resistant ambush protected vehicle you gave me and when it comes to force police have no personal liability public officials can be held accountable only in so far as they violate rights that are clearly established in light of existing law the legal standard for suing

a cop is so high so cops could not be sued for stealing a federal court said the alleged theft of $220000.00 was deeply disturbing but they didn't dismiss the suit anyways because it said no precedent had ever established that officers can't steal on the job they can basically get away with stealing games of cops and robbers are going to be very confusing. police have a license to be completely lawless it's actually surprising that there aren't more deaths of civilians at the hands of police officers part of reforming the police was never making them more liable or responsible for their actions so what will encourage more officers to behave like officer rader since there's no incentive not to shoot some police departments are coming up with ways to reward cops who save

lives in dangerous situations present to you the los angeles police department's 2016 resolutions of life or research. ok so we have to give the police participation trophies for saving lives like bowling or learning jujitsu look at you you. did well you were supposed to do and that's why people are talking about dismantling this system and i think while we're at it can we also get rid of bolling reporting from washington i mean we care about and for redacted tonight and finally president trump has threatened to use the 18007 insurrection act to wage war against protesters yes he wants to go to war against the american people for more on the mind blowing history of the insurrection act let's go to redacted correspondent and.

in response to the wave of anti police uprising sweeping the united states president trump has threatened to invoke the insurrection act of 1807 and deploy federal troops to put down the protests this feeds right into his reelection slogan of make america afghanistan the 213 year old law is often cited by historians for its noble none drop in use in enforcing desegregation during the civil rights movement but it's had many other invocations throughout american history usually for racist anti-labor purposes that would be right up on the drum sound signed into law by president thomas jefferson the act was originally intended to thwart an attempted spin off united states in the west plotted by aaron burr the former vice president who famously destroyed alexander hamilton in a rap battle low you boys says you keep better troubling you w. joyce i'm with you but the situation is rotten you've got to be carefully taught if

you talk you gonna get. combat really was different in the 19th century. jefferson didn't end up needing the act to stop but he did use it a year later to punish american merchants who violated a national in bargo to trade with britain that's right the 1st time the insurrection act was invoked was to stop americans from selling racoon pelts to the british that's how much we hated them back then oh damn i guess a cab originally meant all kings are bastards the 2nd invocation of the act was a lot more historically consequential in august of 831 the slave preacher by the name of nat turner led a rebellion of his fellow slaves against their masters for 2 days his small force traveled from farm to farm slaughtering whites in freeing blacks at most stops the rebel force grew at one point reaching around 40 recruits over 2 days they killed at least $55.00 whites wow that's more than hydroxide chloroquine before they could

reach an armory to stock up on weapons the insurrection act was called and troops quickly intervened to end the rebellion for decades to come nat turner would be blamed for weakening the abolitionist movement annually squandering its prospects with violence if only he had tried to emancipate himself through peaceful means like voting. but the historian eric foner disagrees according to him far from killing the debate not turner opened many whites arguing mainly from the fear and insecurity of the term revolt had created called for the gradual emancipation of the slaves that ters rebellion helped heighten tensions that exploded when the civil war broke out some modern day thinkers though have suggested that enter jackson the president who invokes the insurrection act to put down terms rebellion would have avoided the civil war had he still been in power at least one great historical mind has claimed this and then gesture that a little bit later he would have said this is. leaving aside the fact that jackson

died nearly 20 years before the war began it's actually not that outlandish to suggest he would have avoided the civil war considering he owned slaves themself and had a long history of vehement racism jackson probably wouldn't have bothered to fight it. i'm sorry as it is to imagine a present united states refusing to stand up to white supremacists engaging in insurrectionary activity. since $831.00 the act has been used over a dozen times including several that have involved putting down labor uprise there was andrew jackson 2nd invocation $1034.00 to settle a dispute marilyn grover cleveland's in $894.00 in the poland strike which nearly shut down the nation's mail supply imagine having to wait an extra year to get your lover's ration and most bloody of all there was woodrow wilson in 1914 who sent troops to fight striking miners in the colorado coal from the war in all of these instances as well as the many black clad uprisings of the 20th century the ruling

class has been on the verge of losing control of the people they rule if the oligarchs are so scared of these protests that they're threatening to use the military in the protesters must be on the right track for mind blowing old news i manders only with redacted tonight and that is the show but watch out for a brand new episode of redacted tonight tomorrow night and to get full episodes of redacted anytime you want to grab the free app portable t.v. also you can check out my free stand up comedy special tape to live in los angeles and lee camp american dot com good night and keep private.

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