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time after time said we're going on the ground in a britain again recovering from an alleged terror attack by yet another assailant known to m i 5 and within 24 hours of a virtual meeting between indian chinese and russian foreign minister has made the worst clash of violence between nuclear power as for almost 5 decades coming up in the show those protests against structural inequality and racial capitalism shake the world and threaten to overthrow the current system we ask pink floyd front man roger waters if this is the beginning of a new epoch or just another brick in the wall and what this era of upheaval means for weapon sales wiki leaks and the west bank and an international t.v. exclusive lock down performance of the pink floyd co-founder and his band performing pink floyd's nuclear war track tucson's in the sunset plus the 2 largest armies on earth exchanged blows off to school is dead among the reputed to be about as of the 21st century indian general southeast. on the prospect of war in the

so-called line of actual control and what nato gains from conflict forcible coming of days going underground 1st on monday's show we spoke to a former translator the chinese paramount leader deng xiaoping professor jang way where you said that one of the worst military clashes between india and china occurred within the chinese line of actual control and was a provocation by prime minister narendra modi's india not a single bullet was fired to 20 indian soldiers died reportedly 35 chinese were casualties although official chinese figures have not yet been released but this tension supposedly cool is the threat of war between the world's 2 most populous countries far from dormant joining me now is indian army general in the former chief of integrated defense staff we've had a general satish sure thank you so much general for coming on the show let's just begin with these a trilateral talks presumably you agree with the missile lover of from moscow i don't think india and china need any help from outside because obviously there's been a lot of reporting in nato countries and mixture of fear and i don't know perhaps

or. perhaps please that the war doesn't involve a nato country you're absolutely right because if you recall there isn't also offered i made a similar offer of. it. and i think it's about that man is good. and i think it's an apple still want to see this as a ballot why are you engaged in lethal warfare with india's biggest trade part in shopping's woman translator said it's a provocation from the indian side is that it what's that view the bulk of the border between india and china is a very unique border in the world as the name implies line of actual control not a real national. in 1982 as we're all aware. that india and. get a lot of that goes of that it is a late last act. and not the border between these 2 countries where at this is the

perception. in the actual language on the 1st despite that. we have 20 to flash points or any other of december different perceptions that have been added but no anybody has said there has been nobody intruding into the indian border so what has all been about and in fact this isn't one of your flashpoint arguably this is the indian road into the girl one valley that for the chinese appear to be saying yes let's actually use now the world of a model because it had been and i guess last ones go is not one of china has been objecting are and sucked in this all well on our side of the border so not all these objects. are the asian author or infrastructure next to the border you see this this road and you're saying at. the chinese objections to the building of the road you're tweeting saying that there we are the men jury and the tibetans

the taiwanese the hong kong chinese they all don't agree with china what exactly is the relationship between the united states intelligence services and india because from that tweet that you made from things coming out of delhi it appears that india seems to be following washington i will soon get it following washington the fact remains that india will name all excess such as autonomy we decide what's to be done and it's all that is in the national in this book i would not see that of the airplane to be squarely will all the us well isn't the point that policymakers think tanks politicians they're all going to think they don't even need to care that much about india buying a weaponry from their perceived enemies you're pursuing a policy that is exactly desirable from your old colonial masters that's exactly what they want beijing and delhi and in disagreement. well i put it this fear that

india would always lead to what is in this best interest of why if we have china and pakistan and the. that's for that's for the world to see but the fact of the matter that means when it comes to aligning with the us or russia india all this she has to be. on us so that we do what we think is the best interest of the country on backpage israel plans on illegally annex a get more palestinian land india their special forces train with israel and one of the few countries in the world not to condemn israel's illegal under un resolution actions one a few countries india again the factor back in washington if we have to go into the beginning. of the all or that in $147.00 the durante engaged decided insane and ignorant after all much about it but it cited st excessively india japan

game then when question dear. in an indian state after the fall they've held on to whatever each arm was holding on to pending a resolution and it is then there on lead sort of. shots being fired wars being fought or the announcement or expanding it to the now in proxy war explored of gender of course pakistan denies the terror i'm just going to finally ask you of course because you'll be talking about the national interest arguably the biggest threat apart from poverty in india is coronavirus what do you think about how different countries especially western countries. they're acting suspicious about your statistics how many people really have been killed in india do you think from coronavirus 1st of all you just make a very quick point and what you said that most of your that in pakistan but let me

just tell you the premise of the country openly admitted that it out 3740000 it is in the country so i leave it at that and get back to i don't know why it's issue one to no leg so the guts to. india. is very drastic because we have a political bodies in the cut across other lines where no one listens it is not possible to see anything and perhaps the figures here are saying that a lot and all of the figures are in the 4 104000 kisses have been detected of 870000 plus are active but the good news is $200.00 in 48 hours and guesses are have also recovered by family colors and. also in the net that have taken this i'm not saying everything is already look that old thing is very sad that all well but under the circumstances i think i think they do it in

a general satish or thank you. well as border tensions continue between the nuclear armed states of india and china both former victims of western imperialism statues that many see is glorifying that past continue to come down around the world as a component of global uprisings against structural inequality and racial capitalism but is this period of up evil actually a turning point for justice or just another cry for help that will go on on 3rd by the ruling class joining me now via skype from new york is legendary pink floyd front man brought your waters roger thanks so much for coming back on as i said we spoke to an indian general just now about that battle between nuclear states tell me about your new version of 2 suns in the sunset that we're going to play at the end of the show what's worse to tell you this is what we were marching from almost into mumon about 60 when we went to the power of the square and it is still an issue which just shows how slow and recalcitrant of politicians and political

leaders are we still have nuclear weapons a tall anywhere on this planet and that's what stage and of course and with the new video though you introduce it with citizen 6 basically from the bulletin of atomic scientists why do you think more people don't even realize how close we are according to them to nuclear catastrophe they've become inured to it so they have become comfortably numb if you like they're numb to it the holes the whole situation it's too frightening for us to even look at it and this is contemporary that tomic that doomsday is now that is today we are 100 seconds film on the side or destruction of not just the human race but everything. you cannot use nuclear weapons for anything except believe. waving your finger and

saying i am going to destroy the planet if you don't do what i want that's the only use it is. wow that's well you know keep it said it well obviously end up just changed out and fail safe which was straight but what happened it's all. base quite extraordinary yes so i'm glad to have been able to resurrect this song and to kind of. put into the problem dr strangelove of course ending with the woods a virulent i think here goes are going to do is religion of a virulent. how what how clever of you to guess that that's next on my desk out tonight i did that that went on to the best of the sums that we're going to do about what it's for a day a friend died a tough gets so it will be. a fitting thing for us to be devoted so it's back to 2 suns in the sunset the lyrics say suspicions of the holocaust to

come many people having nuclear weapons is a cold war sort of figment of imagination if you think people of the lessons of the last one no less of vladimir putin was talking about how no one seems to understand russia's role in victory over the nazis as we commemorate 75 years this year we don't pay nearly enough attention to the fact that the russians beat the nazis the russians won the 2nd world war for the rest of it it wasn't a brave brave or the you know the cavalry coming out of the mill cement to get was the russian people who made the supreme sacrifice to hold back the nazi over and to pay them we should never ever forget it take to leave a pointing of things us and say visit the russian people is what they do which is another insane endeavor in my view because leaders of all parties here main parties

dharma barth johnson they say we need it as a nuclear deterrent and it's nothing to do with bullying whatsoever as you know well. it was then it was in 1945 it was and it's been loaded up ever since it deters nobody. the fact is what it does this a preferred to swith the possibility that there's going to be an accident and that some hot head in a submarine is going to go oh my god where on earth stack up as the and then we're all dead and we've come up with now has bred over on many occasions since the 2nd. the americans actually dropped mute among themselves by misstate in north carolina and it didn't go up can you imagine what happened if that weapon had expected. well that was the at that but yeah we wouldn't be having this conversation because the world would have ended then if somebody cheering the cuban standoff and got 3

shitty the world would have ended then this is the end of the world we're talking about the absolute end all life on this planet if we're talking and yet we take that is like saying hey we've got these weapons that nobody can use because if anybody does that stand a bow life that's the end of everything. well if we can't use them why not simply go at the. compliment but isn't it dangerous to have what happens if there's an accident and somebody lets one hook up a step well that's the end of the of life on this planet. why don't we get rid of the mole pope from anything else that cost effing fortune to make and paint and the oath to take that the more they are for something to go wrong when said to be an axe. i've been writing about this over my whole career. in

this business songbook woman and some counting up which is about exactly this getting shippers now and then not ship us that excitement that ship it's a terror running because the lives of you. afshin. and she did this so she's chile's coach. there's a court appearance coming up roger waters i'll stop you there more from roger waters including a t.v. future of lockdown performance. become a battleground in the u.s. . people are demanding the shutdown of a local plant from yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous. power plant that was attempting to run the reactor beyond its

operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on where's the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is or powerline with the people this demonstrates that struggle in a very real way. a struggle. back to gisors financial survival. housing bubble. oh you mean there's a downside to artificially low mortgage through don't get carried away that's cause report. welcome back i'm still here with roger waters do you think corona virus and the threat of that will live some leaders understand this nuclear threat you were

talking about i don't think so they'll just shuffle it more under the co it's a great way of making money because it's just one of the military industrial. district it's a huge silly. way of shoving. money out of your pocket and my pocket into his. sources pocket so the rest of us who run the kleptocracy we call democracy in the us the most so their head they're entirely happy with it costs that thought. well facebook's aka burgund jeff bezos is amazon's jeff bezos i'm sure thing they have nothing to do with benefiting from the military industrial complex i'm going to get on to venezuela though because i mean the person that's going to have their finger on the button that could perhaps kill billions of people will be either trump or joe biden what do you make of joe biden

you've called him a slimeball in the past doubling down for support for why go when trump just reportedly mentioned he might want to meet with manure in venezuela. well you know i wouldn't trust either donald trump or joe biden as far as i can spare which is not very far i have to say. so the idea that one of those imbeciles it's having had as got a code and that carries. it so that he can kill everyone on earth whenever he has the commander in chief he can press the button he can on his own on his own. code and since he can if that's the right with it he can destroy or so this is true obviously it's ridiculous it's completely insane let's not think it's about this is not deterring and sits putting a scene huge danger huge. i mean it still hasn't deterred us from starts it

was all over the. all over the world wars everywhere perpetual war although the world mama house and have as anybody indeed. from that no we haven't been deterred from who. why do they wait did they really think that routine is going to suddenly. you know nge. an attack on western europe and the russian or dissident stream over to impose communist monis and blah blah blah. give me a parade a can on the planet when the british government's point of view would be yeah putin has been killing people in this country's been using chemical weapons here he invaded the ukraine georgia and is backing venezuela and all our enemies and to russia is an enemy as we know they didn't invade the crap everybody if you read and write or you have to do is repeat history obviously the west an exception

is one now it's wrong do the research just look i constantly pleading to look at the patterns of these cases to read both sides you know it's right it's not my mom said to me and she spent most of it's now she says you should because all sides of every question is kept in shoot and get much information as you can and once you've got all that you will be at a position to decide to do and there will always be a right thing to do then the next bit it's easy to do the right thing the right thing on this particular case to agreed to destroy all nuclear weapons it's all over the world including it it's rare that india and china and the u.k. and france of the united states and russia are left anybody out our own eggs as you

know israel denies having nuclear weapons although there have been the leaks from to whole time. here well israel actually in the news because they plan to annex for next week. so untold even more maybe all of the west bank what do you think about what you think your country britain should do about this decision by netanyahu because we're exporting record amounts of arms to israel along with the rest of the european union even though we're not part of it any more clearly all the european countries and great britain and the rest of the countries it better most of the rest of the country isn't ready to this should say the following the palestinian people must have equal human rights and the rest of us and equal human rights with the israelis and that's the bottom line if that happens everybody will be have well stealing their whole country from it's not affording

them self-determination over or under the law so obviously this trump cushion or adelson push along with netanyahu and the fascist government of the state of israel to steal rest of storage. from roic his out of staying in people who somehow managed to cling to a few of their olive trees some of them mountains. is one of them was submerged in it which was. set in 15 years and i will not get away with of that i'm absolutely sure because we the peoples of the united nations of the have agreed we did it on the 29th of november in 2012 when we the people all agreed to recognize palestine as an observer state so as state so

when you in fade it and when you when you put your people late to settle it you're breaking every international who are in covenant has existed adults and trump cushion or israel denying a link to fascism but if anyone thinks this is a faraway topic in a far away place the the americans are watching this program at the moment you've been talking about connections between alleged atrocities on american streets. and police and training by israel tell me about. what we've put we've all seen it going on and we all know that the knee on the carotid artery is nice reilley technique developed palate lee ballad by the i.d.f. in the occupied territories if i want something and they sell these techniques on top of it isn't well and also we know for

a fact that in times of step it's training and militarizing the police sit in the cities of the united states but just this recent who's those streets and it's in united states are all cute and that auk. police forces represent the interests of the ruling class who have the peak of the united states under their thumb and thank goodness there's are not about just very briefly actually on the black eyes matters rebroadcast is actually on state mandated media wearing b.l.m. badges defense secretary former defense secretary and williamson runs education now he says he's rejected changes in the history curriculum why do you think the government are very keen not to change education of course you're famous for singing we don't need no education. well as always point out you will notice that

that's a double negative we don't need no education we need all the education that we could get obviously it end and where i live in the united states it's even more important to be a fit they start having some education because it's almost of funding for public education you know but when they do that they that they have a curriculum particularly in the history of their own country and acil so in the history of the tree that actually relates to walk it's actually happened in the last hours and you know. because we don't at the moment our our. connivance to settle in colonize over 60 percent of what if it was the heights of the earth share or the world has been trained to. ignore it under the shadow of a union jack and national pride and brittania rules the waves and all that and it's

time that it stopped it's time that we actually prep it is what's important to us is not that we're british in kish it's the way human beings but you know 1st things 1st how about just a baying the law porous i had a word with boris johnson on february the 22nd this year when i made a speech in omaha square about judean who i know we haven't talked about much today and also went in saying so now outside the home office on october the 2nd this is cut and droite just do the right thing boris you it will take you about 2 minutes to figure out what the right thing and if he has another another hearing next week roger are going to stop you there and he can introduce the song in a 2nd 2000 in the sunset we'll see you on saturday roger how on earth did you do. song anyway during coronavirus and then take it away just tell us about it and

we'll play it. well a couple of months ago i had the idea in my isolation to make an album of all the songs that my band and i did on the us and then taught his own codes so we started with mother i play the guitar and sing and then i send it to the mole and they all add their bits wherever they are from them so their i phones and and they came back together nevin but he loved it so good this is a good idea this is going to beat that out of we will do these things for my 2 sons in the sunset is my 2nd is the 2nd 2nd so. it's a hugely appropriate because of the doomsday clock being up 100 seconds before we all die and how do we do it we have very good we have musicians and we all have big caught some we love one another and the people who

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ng. mga. welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is r.t. u.k. . health experts warn of a 2nd wave of coronavirus in the u.k. as the government eases the lid on town as its reveals transmission could be on the rise. the government is under fire over its failed virus truckin trace out as it puts the pressure on pubs and restaurants to track outbreaks instead i'll be talking to a previously campaigner. moscow holds its coronavirus delayed a victory day parade just 6 weeks after its traditional days marking the 75th

anniversary of the defeat of nazi germany. are you from me it says discussions between the foreign office and the us about the diplomatic immunity of their son's alleged killer aren't going well here is not that tells us what he keeps so fine saying or has some. promise to not like we will get justice and the lady alice. was going to be make a promise to children she took a break. and police say no criminal offense took place when an aircraft carrying a white lie was much about it was floated over a football match which we managed to city and burnley but the club vowed to punish those responsible we hear from both sides of the debate.

ok scientists have warned about the dangers of a 2nd wave of coronavirus off to the prime minister e's long time restrictions in england. in the letter to the leaders of all the political parties health chiefs said there was a real risk of local flare ups of the disease this winter they say it's vital for nation approach to the virus as established after scotland wales and northern ireland decided to break with westminster and ease many of the restrictions more slowly and the health experts have called for a broad ambitious and rapid inquiry to learn lessons from the pandemic well the warning comes as a leaked document from public health england reveals government uncertainty about the transmission of the virus westminster insists the r rating of covert 19 is below one meaning the outbreak is shrinking but according to the report mount official sensitive they are rates being above one can't be ruled out meaning the outbreak could be growing in some regions however number 10 has resisted the call for an inquiry says the government has taken unprecedented

measures to support the health service. or disease expert dr barrett khania told me that a 2nd wave is certainly possible and we need to prepare for it much better the price we are paying is a big one and the price is that of delay we went into a lockdown much later and as a result of the biology of the wires is widespread there is widespread a transmission and therefore to bring it down and subdue it takes that much much much longer so what we have to do now that there is in overt oblique a release of the lockdown is be prepared for an upsurge especially when the autumn months are right and we will change our behaviors from being outdoors to indoors the preparation and i really cannot understand why we're not doing it the preparation should be local testing local contact tracing and keeping a local perspective on things because we will have local outbreaks if not

a national one so therefore is the government right see ease locked out in england particularly i mean is it too soon. i feel it is too soon and my reasons are that with the we have a background large number admitted li it is going down but we still have a large number of cases in the u.k. it's not down to the 100 cities in the thousands furthermore our centralized contact tracing and centralized testing systems are not as efficient if there were locally delivered locally run local experts. taking a prime role in it we're not doing that and as a result we haven't done our homework fully is that the public already locked down again if the virus spikes again i don't think so and therefore i have changed my advice to say we are where we are locked down is lifting the government is doing what it wishes to do my job is to advise people to remain well and protect the

vulnerable so my advises people aged 60 in above you must take extra precautions especially if you are in the arteries group and then people below 60 of course be careful not to introduce infection to the one rebel group. well meanwhile the u.k. government is also under fire over its crisis hit test and tray system the opposition leaders they can't stomach accuse the prime minister of rolling back on promises related to its much type tracking up for you case easterly has more on this and he joins me now a says the issues surrounding this that they're not going away are they know absolutely when the government announced the launch of their own app or at least that they were looking to launch their own up at the beginning of may promise the world that this app would be walled greeting well initially it was supposed to be released in the middle of may then push that release date back to sometime in winter before last week completely dropping plans for their own in order to switch

to a model being developed by apple and google and an app that itself has run into a few technical problems recently and so for that reason there is still no contact tracing out in the u.k. they say sure this issue was raised by kids start with the labor leader with the prime minister boris johnson that prime ministers questions with mr starmer stressing that the government of been backtracking on the up and going from calling it while beating potentially to just a side issue where as far as johnson hit back arguing that there isn't a country in the world that has conclusively proved that the context resting up has been effective in fighting code 90. up until last week the government maintained that the act was critical for a number of the slides but at the weekend the health secretary downplayed the out saying it was only ever additional support so which is it critical

or not. mr speaker i wonder whether the writer or general can name a single country in the world that has a functional contact tracing because there is a well we have what we have and i think want to use i'm afraid i left the opposition slightly floundering is a very successful test to trace the n.h.s. test to trace operation germany working 50 june 12 1000000 downloads 12000000 downloads mr speaker i checked overnight 5000000 is way beyond mr speaker there's a theme to these exchanges last week i asked a promise to about 2 claims about child poverty he said absolute child poverty and relative child poverty have both declined under this government or monday the office of the children's commissioner ruled that the prime stance of worlds mostly falls he's been found out he thought don't use the question or he gives dodgy

answers mr speaker no witnesses i rest my case in the absence of an app the government has been using 25000 people as contact traces manually get in touch with people who could possibly have come into contact with somebody with coded 19 now some of the onus for the scheme going forward is going to be passed on to the hospitality sector we know that from july the 4th the government has said that with restrictions in place pods restaurants bars all of these types of cab opened their doors the parts of the conditions are that they'll have to collect the names and contact details of their patrons and shadi stash he went to meet some of these studies from owners they get ready for reopening day. it's nearly 3 months since the u.k. 1st went into lockdown when pubs court last orders and restaurants closed doors but despite non-essential business is reopening the hospitality sector said it simply

couldn't cope with the 2 me to social distancing in place and it seems the government agree given. the significant form in the prevalence of the virus so we can change the 2 metre social distancing route from the 4th of july. the announcement came through while i was with the ross sea. tina and with a relaxed he thinks the sector is headed in the right direction to finally get back on track this is what we this is what we do for a living for a choice. in the restaurant industry like a profound love is not an easy life it's a very challenging and hard life but we live off the energy of the people we live off our customers we live off our teams and we're here because we want to open our doors and we want to recreate those magical memories for our customers but the new normal comes with a new set of rules to make sure it's safe enough balls and restaurants will now

have to provide a formal register of customers patrons will have to provide their names and their contact details upon arrival or when booking a table to make sure they're able to be contacted if there's an outbreak of the virus all of which makes popping in for a pint slightly more bureaucratic i mean that's a canard these are them every bit you everywhere tell us. so that's another thing to be so sure. but everyone knows the time that we're in and the precautions that we're going to have to take but if we're going to get the public in and we have to then i think it's necessary i'm happy to you know i think convenience but i mean cause it is inconvenient i feel that if i'm going that i'm going to expect and i'm going to have to do something can you wait because you know that's where we are in that moment i mean it's very different to a restaurant taking your contact details when you. when you make a booking for the reservation i know that they write that but it won't work with it so it's the standard that if you could not another good idea we should work and

even those in the industry think the new normal might be too much to handle a player wouldn't want to pay the government now the tab if they do that and this or turkey is a lovely idea how workable they depend on have a sister get set up and and if i could get a tractor trace. where they would then be relying on something a little more rudimentary very dangerous perhaps to get a chance to to keep the record. i think the question really is how would that it's him i should be he's like a rock because i think some of the issues that go with their own track and trace her but you know if they started trying to put it in the right direction ship encouraged and others in the industry tell the dining experience not be hindered by social distancing even with the reduction restaurants are. places where people come and be social and they enjoy their time so it really depends on like what would it look like after which would still be a place where people will be able to do that. because at the moment i think what is

needed in our stress and again is that the narrative needs to change so long as we keep on saying i'll board all social contact where possible a social industry will never come out of these restaurants know how to keep you safe we've been doing that for years. there's a bigger problem as i gain like the national timeout the needs to be addressed in order for industry to move forward this the one we're move is i welcome steps forward looking forward to see what following steps will will will be taken in order for our industry to thrive again and welcome our customers and the bounce is a small price to pay to get back to this new normality if businesses like these that depend so much on social interaction want to survive now be hoping that everyone not just stop a calmness to get used to this new slightly more antisocial way apply. chad had us actually r.t. u.k. london. for more on the issues of set of data sharing in the hospitality industry i'm now joined by privacy campaign

a tom travis tom thank you for joining us will it make sense they are out they argue that you need to provide your contact details just in case there's an outbreak. well i think it does make sense yeah or the problem is that you're giving such sensitive information when a strong stuff really but had no hope at straightening out the harm that the hospitality industry hasn't really had to our g.d.p. our training up to this point in my issue here really is that if the data isn't harmful it's and so important people in danger in the sense that they like people's address and phone number and that can easily be misused or has the government laid out any plans to help the hospitality industry actually handle sensitive information i believe they have said they are getting the information information commissioner's office to folks that they're going to for but frankly expecting businesses to also consider that within 10 days is a little bit optimistic in my moments i feel sorry for the hospitality industry over there it feels like it just sort of belongs with this thanks to the

government's failings of getting their concentration our rounds but protecting people on balance if you take everything into account protecting people from type in 1000 is the priority here. oh no i created is definitely the at the moment i think we shouldn't have a lake say fair that you 2 are they 3 that goes it's not only handle it coping serious consequences so for example i was in new zealand and not in any match and if they hadn't at basically this similar sort of system so what happened there was a time you went straight over estimates you have to sign in with your name and email phone number and address and the problem with that is when it says have this because they have been trained. and they will just have a log book and they will leave that out in the open so that's for anyone to say you could like the look of someone who's just come in it's a government say it's really problematic and there was actually and an issue of that to be honest i think it happened we have so many went in for some reason so

when i gave him the details and then one of the employees just left the locker and then just decided to remain silent so maybe censoring a stance on the whole the governments are really. kind of what you come to one vote in the states at one time what are the alternatives and what could be quickly implemented. i frankly i don't think there are any alternatives are present i think what they need 8 i have no issue with that as it stands but think they have to be very very clear about exactly how the states there's a lot of that so i would say. basically one pass and public management level to be in charge of this and it's going to be somebody who's also so less entry level stuff you would say and i think that there's a there can be logged and lack of local croque and friends of yours basically that's a good everyone and individual form that form is then hidden and yet in some of the management level who then mortgage rates well they are going to say alternative if we don't have any system is that pubs and restaurants would have to stay shut which

would be catastrophic for the industry and the economy so this is a case of sort of the lesser of 2 evils isn't it. yeah that's a problem with a really big we can't really justify the konami impact it would have some really does know all about it and there have been and. i just think the best then businesses can there is be smart with people say to protect it don't have such a laissez faire attitude because he could potentially bring people home and it's not on the way that big implications yes tom davis thank you very much indeed thank you very much. still to come this hour. police concluded no calling was committed what i want lives must have followed was flight over the edge he had stadium during a football match on monday.

you cannot be vulgar with me yet you know what. i think the biggest danger that has come out educationally to destroy us is it is us highlighted the issue gender equality that exists and i think one of the sinks that educationally. changes access to the internet for educational purposes needs to be i think 2 lists that essentially our children write us. one else show small seemed wrong all right old quotes just don't call. me

old but yet to shape out this day become educated and in gains from it because betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. are. thank you. welcome back harry dunn's parents say the foreign office has told them that discussions with the u.s. are not going well regarding the diplomatic immunity of their son's alleged killer 19 year old motorcyclist harry dunn was killed in a crash outside a u.s. military base in the english county of more fun to last august answer who last the

wife of a u.s. intelligence officer fled to america claiming diplomatic immunity she was later charged by u.k. police because in death by dangerous driving last year u.k. foreign secretary dominic robb concluded that an anomaly in the existing rules on immunity provide a greater protection for spouses than the staff at the base and while the foreign office says gaining justice for the family is its top priority harry dunn's mother isn't convinced this is the case they are not getting the answers and we are really desperately you know this is not a dominant rock cause they absolutely need looking at things how to change they cannot remain the way they are you know. that they say that the spouses. or intelligence officers and this is to us was a great immunity than the actual employees themselves is just crazy it doesn't make any sense whatsoever if our government of pushing the u.s.

to getting looked at and changed we have absolutely no proof of that so when they keep telling us they're doing all they can we do not have any of that in writing to prove that that's what they are doing well how helpful do you feel that dominate rob has been have you felt supported as a family are you angry. we're not supportive leasing we have today one world one that we requested it wasn't offered to us or extended to us he was extremely rude. parents. and. right down the other end of the room the mayor whether being the other side regrettably fields. wasn't very controversial around christmas time and finally well you know when the charge and other things. thing started to change 6 we thought we were rebuilding bridges the mayor the life of being broken.

and they were very much more friendly in all but continue to then go on to mislead or not be useful truthful with us we feel very very and supported. what the us has repeatedly refused to extradite and secure last while dominic roberts also faced questions over what he knew about her departure after it was revealed a foreign office official texted a u.s. counterpart saying she could be put on the next flight out. family is currently seeking to prosecute the foreign secretary for obstructing the police investigation how his mother also told us what keeps have fighting for justice. the comics sundays how are you going to go sit in that sleep in the middle of dry that keeps me and the rest of team harry get away i promise to not like that we would get justice i have no idea how hard that was going to be but you make

a promise to children's you don't break it that thomas said of course extension is hidden brad island and the other siblings you know most of the comics doesn't just start with harry and the other things that keep me going are the cynical to supply all that we get for a taste of counting our friends. that we have to the campaign not only believe haley he laughed it literally around the world is just been astonishing diary of a well meaning you can't quite get your head around this is a plan for us. to actually be helps keep you focused keep should read and. that is that each day. moscow has finally held its postponed annual victory day parade this year marking the 75th anniversary of the soviet victory over nazi germany red square was filled with signs of military personnel followed

by a procession of military vehicles and finished with a spectacular fly past. me . me me me. me me. me. me me. that police in the u.k. have concluded that no criminal took place when a white lives mata burley banner was flown over the edge he had stated on monday

during a football match between the city and burley the plane circulated the state of a monster after players and staff to take in the knee in support of the black lives matter movement but despite the police decision bernie football club say it will punish those responsible but is taking action against fans who have done nothing illegal justified or does the lord need to be changed what about this then are joined by a former police officer that's the 3rd and racial equality campaign that lee jasper gentlemen thank you for joining me at the police say the ban has not criminal so surely the club is wrong to threaten sanctions what do you say peter. it's entirely a matter for the club whether the apply any sanctions or not it's outside the criminal law it's not a matter for the police because there's no crimes being committed that was obvious from the outset in fact and i don't know why lancaster police took me to go to decide about. as for sanctions outside that's entirely a matter for the club whether that's right or wrong we can have

a debate about that but there are sanctions applied by all sorts of people and organizations are outside the criminal law for all sorts of things disciplinary processes in britain employment disciplinary processes in colleges and universities all manner of sanctions applied by all manner of organizations so our see nothing wrong with a club making sanctions themselves they had to respond to that yeah that certainly bernie court will probably try to apply to actions we've all seen the kind of awful scenes we saw in the sexual and. those who would support such a statement such as the like lives matter the 70. and all hell broke loose as a result so i think that. the statement was a provocation i have no doubt that black people in lancashire love that scrawled on their dolls and racist graffiti no doubt that black children will face the taunting in playgrounds where they're isolated and i think such statements are

a deliberate provocation. to engender racial slitty we have to remember that as you said in a context where racial attacks on black people and ethnic minorities in the united kingdom of gone literally through the roof since the goal of bret's it so in that context quote can see how this is a very dangerous provocation and one in which black people will to really no doubt paid a price in isolated communities across the country probably as a response to that so does taking a tough line here that i mean polarized polarized b.s. and perhaps even feel the far right. there is a danger of we've got some people or as lee says will use it as a provocation i know exactly what what a plot line is matter a slogan is all about the know exactly what the purpose of it is and then use this to stir up racial feeling. as we saw in some of the marches and whatever

and so some use it as a weapon unfortunately we've got a very very large middle ground who simply don't get don't understand why black lives matter is ok but white lies matter isn't and if you think about it for a bit if you have to explain to you if you think about the background in the context then it's all very understandable but if you just come out it cold and the vast majority of people do then it is quite difficult to understand face value and that leaves those people vulnerable to the extremists in the provocateurs who will use it to try and engender hatred so we need to be careful that we don't leave people vulnerable to the provocateurs by over again the putting as it were i think we need to be careful about how we approach it with those in the middle there are malicious about it but simply don't understand they were different i think. i'm not sure that black people should be forced to pay the price like people's ignorance

about the issues of racism at the end of the day it but people are going to be attacked as a consequence of. that with racial antagonism as a as a result of propaganda stunts like this then i think that they need protection and the law should be there to protect them and at the moment it seems as a for. at least according to peter's analysis that because some people don't understand that the cost for that you know could intentionally bait but people are being attacked the train racial taunts provocation. not physical attacks so i think not blood labs not suppose it's a real challenge for undersea for us to fundamentally recreate that the situation in which we say racial attacks are going through the roof and that's what's happening they are going through the roof so what you talk about as a provocation to the hard drive well well you know for black communities with say

the whole of the many when we do even before but lives matter the whole racial attacks scenario was getting out of control and increasing by huge numbers so stayed quiet doesn't seem to alleviate the problem so yes we take action about 5 i have to leave it that we found out of time but thank you very much for joining us fredricka and we just get the gig and the have more news in half an hour. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then.

hello and welcome to crossfire where are things are considered i'm peter all about it is fair to say many of the protesters on the streets of america what social justice nominally speaking that's a positive message the problem is how that message is translated into concrete political demands and what happens if you don't agree with those political demands . discussing social justice and more i'm joined by my guest michael johnson philadelphia is a national cofounder and leader of the us tea party movement as well as a former white house speechwriter to president george h.w. bush and in washington we have.