slowly with his a free pleads with is a strictly. business and to decide his ideology. how would i define a hollywood is they call it the dream manufacturer which i think stroup i think equally it's a propaganda film. off no t.v. no crowd. no shots. actually well to be. strong no strong. point should your thirst perhaps. but hey folks dennis miller here still coming to you from my home joined by

a dear friend today fellow s n l a law and although he was there with the original permutation right smack dab in the middle of it create an roseanne roseannadanna and many more allen's why bell right after this dennis miller plus one. hey folks welcome to dennis miller plus one i'm very excited today usually want to guys nice i sometimes find their comedy incipit usually when a guy is brutal i sometimes find their comedy insightful to find a nice guy who's clumsy. on the nose right on the button kill or insightful is truly to find the motherlode my guest today is you missed allen's what about i want his best known for his work on s n l but also you know billy's show. 700 sundays you work 10 them on that.

i think is consulting producer with larry over kerger enthusiasm his new book i am in the midst of reading it and i'm in a treasure trove of reading apropos of nothing by woody allen and the now book the actor both making a lot laugh lines my life helping funny your people be having funny people be funny are now out in stores and online allen how are you my friend did then it's how you do embody. beautiful the book is killing me and the cover were very clever to put that like almost a post a memo about behind the scenes if you get the pet i just thought that is such a clever design was 8 euros now with not me at all about a year earlier he sent me a couple of cover designs that made me laugh but then i thought ok doing that there in the course of the next year we'll discuss it no one brought it up in the next thing i knew that was the cover and i went ok but yeah it's sort of makes sense and

if you if you'd dine for a picture of me on the back you have my face but whole face yeah you have that harried comedian photo 101 on the back that's right that looks like that looks like a deadline shot like ok we need this by that time you know i'm i'm very in the beginning of the book. maybe like 50 pages dead and that deals a lot with the borscht belt guys who are huge fans of and you have to tell the story of the seeing henne outside the friars club that he doesn't know you're there which is one of the funniest things a really remarkable after left s. and now i didn't have a an office at 30 anymore so i joined the friars club because up stairs they had a room with a with a big screen t.v. and a newspaper rack it was like a lounge so i use that as an office and one day i'm walking towards the friars club and that's on

a 55th street men between madison and park and i turned the corner on to 55th street and for whatever reason i know what's on the street this particular time of day maybe it was at a very it was empty that's that's the important part of the story 3 member so i'm walking on 55th street out of a door about 100 feet in front of me henny emerges came to the one line as he walks across the street toward. the friars club now he doesn't know that i'm there he thinks he's alone that's the key to this story dennis he crosses the street i'm in his blind spot back there up pigeon flooders down lands at his feet he looks at it and goes any mail from a now i repeat if. he thought he was alone and he was talking to a bird and what i love the better lick me drags what just hard wired to be

funny to be funny how the i mean well also it's a friar's club that if you're within the 1st few 50 pages or so when they 1st took me to the from readers club and that's were you know it was a mecca of show business it was toward the tail end of the mecca it was on the other side of the mountain just thought i'm down a little and then when it's all comic the name jean bale ost you remember him he was there all sad sad he had the droopy eyes and the jalouse and he walked over hunched over and i was taken there by a comedian named freddy roman who showed a hereafter and introduced me to people and when we approached gene bayliss who i never heard of a never saw before. he said gene i want you to meet allen's wife belle and the still to this day fascinates me jeanne looks at me says i hear you a very funny you know he's also funny my dentist at which point he opened

his mouth and out skilled. true doesn't chiclets as if they were his teeth dentist to this very day i don't know of jean bellows to walk the round with a mouth full of shit chiclets hoping that he would meet somebody that he can do that joke with henri so many coming to us out. of the mic there was a valve i still don't know the answer to that but those guys were already got to think that freddy i got to think that freddie was doing sort of a bob's a buddha shill thing i've got a quick search i will almost get the will out of iraq and they have no let me absolutely right you know maybe there was like a 3rd base coach kind of you know of a young jews coming in do it get which but the chiclets i don't know. of those guys you stick will be there were 0 funny and it's it straight you could wake them up from a deep auto ringback induced coma and they would default to a punch light in

a 2nd that was all they are not all in the us all in the floor i remember. robin and i my wife and i got home from a honeymoon it was about 2 in the morning we said to the world we didn't even own pack we just left the suitcases on the floor we just plopped into bed and a quarter after 2 the phone rings and it's rodney dangerfield. quarter after 2 in the morning now and it's rodney i went oh yeah he man what stuart allan we were growing up we were real poor. ok. now before we go he said we were so poor that christmas we couldn't put to the tree we used to wait for my grandfather to sneeze. and. i'm laughing because i thought it was funny and b. the situation was even funnier and he says what do you think funny i when you know

it's really funny but yeah that's what i thought and he hung up and he didn't hit you know if. you know till near to the funniest guys look great larry gelbart will be once that he was doing the vietnam thing whiskey nose and he said to bob hope at this amazing ability to nap at the drop of an eyelid i mean he could just go out for 15 or 20 minute increments so gilbert says is a young guy and they're taking off from a fire zone or something there's literally ak act out the window they're trying to sit on their helmets so they don't get their gen. clubs napping and they finally get out of airspace and he wakes up and larry says bob hope all are in god's name could you sleep through that he's like slipped through what i need 3 jokes on miskito netting.

all right so didn't know would read and you know it is as those guys died out or are still around but on their way out i don't know who replaces them when it comes to that mindset you know what i mean i know who the newly funny unions are i know this and that but that ilk. where they would just be funny for the sake of being funny and it was just such a kneejerk reaction i can't point to anybody of our generation or even younger who's gone oh yeah he's just like any young woman that way because i don't know how and if it's it's interesting in that you really straddled the mason dixon line because i'll tell you when that stopped is needy became insouciant became an intoxicant needy became sweat act and it happened in one weekend when saturday night live starts that i think that's all lauren sensibility i'm never him tell me listen not every jokes going to work i don't mind you go up with smoke but you're

not going to be up there you know tap dancing to get a laugh out of it you're not going to fake laughter to get a laugh out of it you straddle those 2 worlds well you know something i was really lucky and you're very right when it came to that because the s n l mentality when it came about it was the sons and daughters of alan king and of that generation it was our turn to talk and i think that was really driven home with i really reach back when milton berle hosted the show because on paper ok there was a poetry to it the guy used to be at n.b.c. he had the big show traffics pulled over to watch him when he was mr television here we were it was like the torch being passed but when milton was on the show that old school of comedy that we're talking about which he tried to infuse our scripts with just didn't work in particular i remember standing in the studio when

they would camera blocking his opening monologue so it was a thursday he sets with being built for the book complicated pieces and he was rehearse in his monologue just standing on a home base and he then stopped himself at one point and he said to dave wilson who was off you know he was in the in the control room he shouted out he says that now dave when i get when i say the word shirts i would love to have a sound effect. of a crow bar falling from a rafter above landing on the studio floor and sort of reverberating ok until it comes to a stop and dave wilson said why. and you know if it's. your direct quote he says because when that happens i am going to live oh sounds like n.b.c. dropped another one now the fee for if i get up and read that book was but the

phrase i am going to add live you had pollution you had guilty you had it you know ackroyd lorraine the greatest improv people in the world there and he's planting an ad lib so yeah i think you're absolutely right. but i love i love that it's a bloodless coup to some extent because i think everybody has its season milton berle said it is time i mean are you pitting these guys were colossus ike i never viewed the hand-off as like you know i am swallows guys who could go see wayne newton all show business and take the action and dig the effort i never looked at it some people let laughed at it acted like it was a freak show i like guys like uncle milty and shecky and sid caesar now i just think mouth in their time as big as s n l certainly but then as a bell it was their time and you know i don't think guys like danny in that we're

looking at them and they all crazy man i just think danny and guys like that we think our top now it's our time we will you know something you're absolutely right and i've always had an appreciation for what came before us almost like ok what's the lineage here how did we get to this who reacted to what what were the times like and i talk about in the book a night. that we had at rob reiner's house years later rob has a screening room at his house and he would show old movies and because he's rob he would have somebody from the movie there and so when the movie was over we would have one was like a master class would sit around and just ask questions and this one particular night. he didn't have a movie what he had was 10 from your show shows and clips from caesar's hour now the people who want to get a bonna well call rhianna not a hard call for him to make ok rob stead and his mom mel brooks and i am frank ruff

mel worked on those shows larry gelbart his wife and sid himself and his wife they were in the back row of this screening room now at the kids' table where me and my wife robin a tom hanks and rita larry. david and his then wife laurie 1000000000 janice crystal and i think love it showed up by himself ok. at mistake and i made sure that when we will watch in these clips those older guys were in the back row that i was in the row right in front of them because i wanted to eavesdrop on what they were commenting about because when you consider the bodies of work that was seated behind me the movies the broadway shows the books the comedy albums and i would hear things like now you understand this was mid to late ninety's so this is 41 the 5 years later and look at all they had done since and we'd see the bavarian

clocks sketch all we'd hear will go one of those sketches and i'd hear carl say oh you would he wrote that and then go but it's have you have a doc simon came in and gave him the joke about the pencil in the i'm gone wow and it's funny because of that but you know what's. it's mind boggling it's like you're on the top dug out step with the 27 yankees over your shoulders absolutely i got to take a break galloway come back wolf take over to saturday night live the book by the way is alan zweibel laugh lines my life helping funny people be funnier it's out now in stores and online says kat is a pliny the elder of american comedy her sixty's you can pick the brain will do that right after the break on dennis miller plus one.

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right shell africa debt slavery. a folks welcome back to dennis miller plus one we're joined by alan white bell and the book is laugh lines my life helping funny people be funny or i'm around 50 pages in and i need deep in the hoopla it is a groove and i love it and i got lucky enough down the road to be on s n l and i always look back as i look back and said i look back on chevy billy gilda i get goosebumps and i was ever in the same studio what's it like at the beginning our you go in the 1st day do you sense that they're all players or what's the vibration well i was a joke writer for these gag writer for these catskill guys that's what it's how i broke in so what you know for the roman would call the house i moved into

back in with my parents if the college and he would ask for a joke and i would write him a joke about a cuss citic orgy where the men are on one side of the room and the women are on the other and those were the kind of you know that i was writing back then so now. i go to s. and i don't that are very very 1st day for the very very 1st meeting and even if you ask lauren he will tell you that i turned his head with one joke i had given him a volume of 1100 jokes and the 1st joke at my meeting he opened it up and was a joke that was on the very 1st weekend update the show you how long ago it was from the reference points in it i had written a joke saying that the post office is about to issue a stamp commemorating prostitution in the united states it's a 10 cent stamp you want to lick it it's a quarter ok so that was very but that was like ok but i'm a joke writer and i go into lawrence office on the 17th floor to talk about this.

and news show and i look around and i see gilda and i see a chevy i see pollution and danny and lorraine and franken and i'm gone i have never seen this kind of comedy before i was not exposed at that point to 2nd city or the groundlings or anything where people improv and just created scenes and characters right in front of you i was a joke writer and i was overwhelmed and go my god is no way i'm going to be able to cut it with these people look what they're doing so they're only the only precursor that might have been nichols and may to a large degree but they were it was a very uptown almost no politics effect feel except which john came in he was a working class hero that also extends a rainy asli i love the exercise you did in your book that musta served you well it s n l where you said you would take monday through friday pick

a topic and then write in either dick complete would you tell the system i learned back to an activity that or voices which much must help you in that status and now well you know something that's exactly right because i knew i wanted to write scripts someday and i didn't want everybody to sound alike. so i would pick i would take any given week and i go k. what's the subject for the week of buying a car so monday i would write a monologue as if jack benny was bonded car and tuesday as if tony fields was behind the current wednesday is if rodney and then carl and overture by the end of the week i had 5 monologues about the same subject but spoken through different voices and it really helped that as an open they were characters and it helped a lot when i co-created it's gary shandling show because i have gary locked in my head and i was able to write for that voice. i love your you're cooperative with gilda i mean i you know i only met gilda once i never work with her i always was

fascinated from afar how somebody so lives almost fragile like a fine like creature can make me laugh 6 so well what how did you guys grow i believe roseanne roseannadanna stuff like that how did you grow together the 2 of us do we found each other the very 1st day there's something about each other we were both scared kids i she was new to new york and the big buildings sort of spoke there a little bit i'm from new york and roseanne roseannadanna was a character that we created together she got who got a a letter every week from a guy named richard fader from fort lee new jersey who is my brother in law. the last time i ever heard somebody say service or with material is bob guccione with a crew duran duran his neck and a pet of the year shipped. and you know i don't think that newsnight expression i

said service in their. private said i'm talking there richard gere in american. service hollywood's material what's happened to me. as as great as the as great as the work was between you and guild or whatever i think of you writing. it it's like the blue angels riding up right each other's wings i think you and billy god and i thought billy's intro to your book allen was so touching what i think you too is young cub's in the car and still in the car with the stiffen he had ishmael along so i'll always have been with billy crystal while i met him i think it was 1974 i was got tired of writing for those guys up and i'm catskill mountains i took the jokes they wouldn't buy from me in the plan was to go on stage to either catch a rising star or the improvisation to showcase clubs here in new york at the time

and advertise the material and the week that i started there was a guy named larry david who had already been there a couple of months and another guy named billy crystal who had just broken off the he was part of a trio and was starting to do a solo act i live with my parents in wood me a long island 4 towns over a 1000000000 live there with his wife and his all this child in long beach long island he used to pick me up every night in his little blue volkswagen we would go into the city tell our jokes and on the way back we would listen that the cassettes and we would give each other notes and we never worked together i got s n l he went out to l.a. . and he. became billy crystal and then years later we shared a suite of offices which was the most poetically weird thing in the world. may larry david and billy at castle rock which was rob reiner's company robin host

defended saturday night live ever so the fact that the 4 of us what together was mind boggling but billy and i still hadn't worked with each other he stuck his head in my office one day he said i want to talk to you he had an idea for a broadway show called 700 sundays that he wanted me to collaborate with him on and for those out there who don't know what that means 700 sundays growing up billy's father had 23 jobs work 6 days a week sunday was the day off that was the day that billy spent with his dad when the ballgames that beach you know bowling and billy's dad died suddenly went billy was 15 so he calculated that he had roughly 700 sundays with his father so it was a one man broadway show about his father his mother and extended family and it really made me and billy that much closer i felt so honored. but i the fact that he

trusted me with his family me from the right put it into their mouths i hadn't met them but i'm also a jew from long island so it's not exactly i was writing this was these were not folks from neptune i knew who they were and we wanted tony award and it was really really rewarding thank you alan my guest today has been truly one of the good guys you got a new book at laugh lines my life helping funny pete will be funny or it is the whole it is the whole spectrum of the last century american comedy in this time from a little boy watching it and taking it to a guy writing for borscht belt a guy making the stride over to saturday night live and doing up with gilda and you know up with billy crystal larry david he's got a new movie coming out with a 1000000000 tiffany habit so nobody has been more in the game for a longer time in comedy and hitting it hard than the great alan zweibel the book

once again laugh lines my life helping funny people be funnier and this has been done a similar plus one. so you need for good in each other than the human plus one. makes all that on the but i'm going to quickly dismiss all that is dismissed. instead of . the emotional learning t.m. must go if you will still be stuck or your muscles in the course of your knee resisting but of course just fall for the gut feel the church. move. from business to compassion that. we think he

minds be soldier to kiss off the boot she's wearing. to church so the soul looks like to believe the polls will put you know more than the book and then you'll get on the show stuck with some russian police force to bust hold of. what's needed national will discover that only when they've been able to muster that soul a city it was a propagandist you got to see in the regular morgue or your own or your partner are going to be moving through our various odd lot o. . water source i.q. herbalists lucifer mr delicious that i'm a got it on display of nobody it is not my achievement mr davies our 5 year plans were conceived. and carried out by the people themselves if how they would produce

or even floor it with the idea of making a film like this they'd probably be branded as crazy. and that was the sentiment during the war that the soviets were brave heroes resisting the nazis that's going to change of course after the war but once the cold war begins. people think that hollywood is a free. strictly. business and. how would i find hollywood is they call it a dream anything which of these true but i think equally it's a problem and the fact. is fair to say many of the protesters on the streets of america want social justice nominally speaking that's a positive message the problem is that the message is translated into concrete

political demands and what happens if you don't agree with those political team. live from the world headquarters of the r t america in our nation's capital this is the news with rick sanchez hello again everybody i'm rick sanchez and we want to welcome all of you who are watching from around the world whether you're doing so on t.v. through your cable or network provider on your phone using the portable t.v. which is just a click away we're going to get our newscast today with what is nothing short of an astonishing change of course in u.s. foreign policy look if we take the u.s. envoy to syria at his word right now that long held demand that quote assad must go.