right. but these are. the. works of your favorite. because. your life is really really good at least to say that you're the 1st government minister to come toward t. after quarantine so that's why we're grateful and welcome again let's get going thank you so much for to be patient it's great to be here but i do have to say that you flew into the russian capital. at a time when still every day there was $1000.00 plus new cases in moscow. but in hungary there's only a total of $4000.00 a bit more than that aren't you worried and is it really time already to go back to

business as usual when it comes to diplomatic trips look i never stop basically i didn't stop during the crisis at all if i had to travel abroad for example for humanitarian reasons bringing mosques or protective clothes for our friends in the vegetable canes or somebody else trouble trouble i take care about the hygienic prescriptions and obligations you know washing cans not to go to clothes no shaking hands but to some time we did because now it's in our case it's it's over i mean from the crisis perspective but but during the peak of the crisis i really seriously tried to to respect the rules and regulations. well i mentioned the words business as usual i would like to come back to something you've been talking about for a while with other people you've had interviews with. critics have said that your prime minister destroyed democracy. as usual or democracy as we've noted in hungary

you've called it fake news can you give us an update on that at this point right at this point what's going on with mr or bad ones powers to rule by decree. c we have been in office from 2 fours and then on the roads we walk on the 3 national elections with a big margin we are in the 2 for a majority in the parliament on our own no coalition government after all free elections we have on all of the european parliament elections since we won all the local elections since generally and nationally speaking. and this is something that the liberal mainstream simply cannot digest and when i speak about liberal mainstream i mean politics and i mean media as well they just simply cannot digest that there is a government in the heart of europe which concentrates on the national interest a government which is based on christian democratic values

a government which can see there is the real of the people as number one and the government which definitely and openly goes against the liberal mainstream and you know when i when i'm faced with these accusations i always tell the. partners and colleagues ok let's give me concrete issues why you think democracy is being in danger in hungary why you feel we are building a dictatorship which regulations you find. satisfying you know democratic principles a rule of law and you know then there is no answer no answer just a perception is just the general accusations just bashing and this is something which we are really fed up with to be honest because this is this is not only criticism to the government this is this is basically a questioning the capacity and ability of the and the maturity. of the hungary and

people there are they are able to made their own decision about their own future because this government has been in power for 10 years not because of winning at the lottery this government has been in office with a big margin because we won free continuous elections and this is the view of the people why and why should anybody question that i understand that but let me just make an example your key point during some of the conversations you've had was that swift decrees allowed by the these emergency powers should only be about covert 19 measures but then at the same time if i bring up a few reports in the european media they were saying for example that there was a decree correct me if i'm wrong that had to do with taxation in the regions where your party didn't do that well on the one hand you can say yes you have to save the economy which means that it how something due to do with the measures but on the other hand could that be a blow to the opposition yes then there was also

a paragraph that threatened journalists in a sense like i've read in the media that they can end up in jail for 5 years because of spreading misinformation so you would say again that fake news about coronavirus is bad but there are worries about freedom of press so what can you say to that ok so if we have to react on both of them because finally we've got some concrete issues based on which we can. end up in a conversation which makes sense so on the on the decrees yes state of emergency allowed us to make decrees like in every other e.u. member states every other e.u. member states what was the problem of the opposition they said and liberal mainstream in europe they said that there is no concrete date of conclusion in the law which allowed us to govern by decrees we said of course there is not a concrete date because who knows when. allow us to come back to normality when it comes to decision making so what we have done now we seized. did the state of

emergency less than 90 days opposition demand it 120 had the beginning now it took less than 90 days so this is number one number 2 when it comes to the special economy zones yes we made the decree but but in the meantime we submitted it to parliament so parliament can make a law on that because yes of course it entered into force quickly but parliament should approve that i think is a very democracy way of of of managing things because you know i'm in it comes to economy we need investments because in order to be stronger in the post-crisis period we need jobs we need people to work and how you can create jobs through investments and it cannot happen that a big company a leader of the global market in a special area would not make an investment in hungary because some local offer it is cannot meet their measures on time so you know some local. abilities and incapabilities cannot end up in harming the national economy on journalism you

know i've been face to rio have been faced with this criticism of. press freedom of press and journalism for 10 years again since we have been in office so this is nothing new what we have put into law was that if one circulates fake news which can end up in in troubling protective measures which can end up in diminishing the success of the protection of the people against the pandemic then of course one has to face you know punishment or sanctions court is right in that decision which which is normal i mean it is being taken and the case going to be taken into court and then court will make the ruling but you know i had many quarrels with european colleagues on that and that has them look do you think it's good do you think it should be supported that there are people who circulate fake news based on which. people

might die or people view or not be protected because some kind of fake news can end up in you know actions or events which diminish the success of the protection of the people against the pandemic so my question is who are you in line beat those who are spreading fake news or those who want to protect the people that's so simple well it's just perhaps goes down to the understanding of what is fake news so my next question is it's a very recent thing by a leading news website index h u so they have a thing that they call independence barometer and. they're arrow used to point it independent and only a few days ago they switched to endanger are they just hyping it up because of what you've been saying are they trying to score points or there is actually something to be concerned about and also. as far as i understand york harlem voted to lift

the is emergency powers so what is the current status right now i didn't understand so that's why i asked you for an update so the state of emergency or as we call it in hungary a state of danger is over you seized so we are now back to normal of course we have to be cautious because no one knows how this is going to be continued i mean but there's going to be a 2nd wave or not there is going to continue after summer or not whether to continue during summer and not so we are cautious on one hand but when it comes to regulation the state of danger. when it comes to this concrete issue which you raised with this hungry a media outlet which is a web site basically they don't have a problem in this case at least with this regulation was former regulation but they have a problem with their ownership structure so. the editorial board is not very happy with the changes going on in their ownership structure which is which is a business issue i mean this is. you know in

a capitalistic market all parts of markets including media market is free so i mean how we're government could or should influence changes in a ownership structure between private you know persons or companies. ok i get your point could you please give me a short answer do you feel that has done a great job in its response all together well look. there is a hunger in saying which reads in the in the in hunger in the in like praising ourselves is so important that we cannot leave it to others it would be a little bit less credible if i started to praise ourselves you know what i can say is the following that the hungary and people behaved. extraordinarily the disciplined during the crisis time so they respected the restrictive measures hungary and health care system made

a very good job and we were able to build or construct a let's say an air bridge between china and hungary so more than 150 aircrafts have gone back and forth in order to deliver protective equipment mosque's clothes when too late there's to hungary with which we could make sure that the capacity of the of the health care system not be let's say overlapped by the curve of the infected person so all in all we have found food to all hunger and citizens we are most fun food to 2 doctors nurses and all who worked has been have been working for the health care system and of course policemen and soldiers fire fighters to keep the country safe under under the circumstances mr c r 2 a let's look outside hungary for a bit if we take let's. put it this way teen e.u.

and the epidemic what kind of medal does the european union if any deserves for teamwork and team play look. that was a totally new situation to be fair enough european union maybe never had maybe your opinion never had to face such kind of situation as a whole globe did not have to face such kind of a situation the 5 put into consideration the the recent decades so we have to be fair on that on the other hand they have to tell you that all the answers which were the responses which were given to the media in europe were all made by the member states all national answers of worked out because the situation every country is was different. number of infected persons was different. impacts are totally different so the responses have to be made the national level and they were made on national level so according nation from brussels remained on

significant during the peak do you think getting the member of the club was led down i would say that what i say is that there was no coordination and with this i'm not bashing any institutions in brussels because i cannot say whether it would have been possible or it was totally impossible but there was no coordination for sure for the 1st yeah pretty big part of the pandemic situation just to give you one idea when it comes to purchasing the protective equipments e.u. member states and the agents paid by the u. member states who are fighting with each other in china who come by what equipment you know so there was no coordination and when it comes to repatriate the coordination was basically made by the member states as well so we formed each other hey i have to repress rating flights to contra you have citizens there i can take 20 i can take 50 whatever so that was made on the on the basis of the member states as well there i see for. for

a role of the european union is the following on the economy you know currently it's very complicated if you as a state as a government give so-called state aid incentives subsidy or whatever to a company to invest in your country it's possible falls under very strict regulations now what we want to be urged european union the european commission for is to lift these regulations and the member states to finance subsidise incentivize investments in their own countries from their own national budgets in order to be able to save jobs so far it is this is and has not been made but hopefully maybe today or tomorrow it can be made but if it takes long we have been negotiating on that we do your opinion union for almost 2 months now and you know i mean having gone. a little bit too much under the current situation in the really sometimes hours but but mostly days definitely.

become a battleground in the us in vermont people are demanding the shutdown of the local plant from yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous. the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this just sort of puts a magnifying glass where's the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests who are. more in the idea of traditional just. our live with the people this case demonstrates that struggle with the very real. struggle.

yeah. what were your thoughts when the russian army flew over to italy to help because some in europe were saying that this is just a lot of are putin showing off or that he's just playing a trick to have at least someone in the union vote against the sanctions next time

look i mean i considered it as a bilateral issue between italy and russia if there was an agreement on russia being italy well it's not my job to judge what i've seen is that italy was in the real trouble and we tried to help as well i mean much more limited compared to capacities of the russian federation of course like 100000 masts which is another big quantity but that's really something. but look i mean all european union was totally defenseless to china. i mean you know i don't know but a big portion of the very big portion i contacted the exact figure but the very big portion of all protective equipment used in europe during the pandemic situation was delivered from china there was another question let me just read out a recent quote by your prime minister viktor orban i look at the countries telling us how to live properly how to govern how to run a democracy and i don't know whether to laugh or cry and it's been reported. is

that he was referring to the black lives matter or protests or the consequences of these protests would you agree with that i mean i am not quite sure he has said this sentence in the relationship or you clearly distraught as you know what yeah. why he told it like why he said that is the following. and it's totally independent from any kind of international or domestic events and on the other countries since we have been in office we are always lectured all this by everybody so. countries are nordics sometimes i have the feeling that they they feel that it is their homework for them or a sport or a hobby to lecture to hungary and to tell us how to live how to govern how to you know to behave how to act and you know to be honest you're really fed up with that because we are a nation with a history of 1000 years and i can remember i mean from history books of course that event never anybody would like to or want to save hungary and from themselves that

played out very well very badly at the very end of the story so i have even asked danny. to finish the dutch foreign minister during the crisis when they were you know complaining about some chapters of the hungary and corona law that i has and so how it is possible that you have time for that i am working 24 hours a day in order to be hungary and people on the hunger an economy we are working for being able to purchase protective equipments we try to save lives we buying ventilators helping the companies try to put together regulations which can lead the country out of this crisis and you have time to deal with the tongue in regulations i have one have been able and i didn't want to of course but i would have been able to deal with that nice finish dutch whether the regulations number one i don't care because i think they should be they should be left to be finished dutch and the danish people and let them decide whether it's finding. them and it's

fine it's fine for us if not find david change the government so it's vel above my payroll to deal with that but but there were hundreds of thousands of people infected in europe tens of thousands dying millions losing their jobs and the most important issue for nordic investor in european political leadership was was the hunger in court on the law. yeah don't you maybe someone important gave them the homework or were the biggest cannot imagine to i just cannot imagine how it was well i mean i told them look you need to have at least 26 hours a day because i mean i have 24 but i don't have time to deal with your issues but if we go back to black lives matter you always tend to go against the mainstream view on things does it correspond to what the western leadership say about this right now do you have a take on what's gone on that well let's say specifically in the us but we know that there has been trouble in some european countries as well in that regard look i mean we have never commented never

a comment and viewer never comment domestic issues of other countries why should i comment these developments in the united states united states has a leadership it has a president it has an administration is their duty to overcome this situation who am i to comment on such kind of issues you know we base our foreign policy on a very simple principle which is mutual respect. we give respect to other countries we don't interfere in to domestic issues don't judge don't comment but we expect the same unfortunately this way in the operate all the time but but it's not the reason for us to change our logic and and why should i comment on that the way i hope that the president of the united states and his administration come solve this issue. last month when you were talking about the consequences of covert 19 you did say that you expect the pandemic to trigger a new wave of migration to europe even though europe was back then the epicenter

can you follow up on that prediction please and also is this really the right time to put an emphasis on migration issues and to say pretty much that now is definitely the right time to lock the doors and what i see is the following. before the pandemic migratory vevo constitutive 2 types of risks security and cultural now such of wave can constitute 3 risks cultural security and health care and this is something that should be avoided and what we're seeing is that those countries are hit by the. even more who we reach countries have already been in the let's say tough for economy situation the very health care system is not that developed there hygenic says not there so those countries have been suffering and be

a suffer even more for sure. and that's why more or less we agree with some of their european colleagues that that this pandemic situation we'll be easily another push factor for migration and as i visited malta last week you see i never stopped and had a conversation with their foreign minister they are very much concerned about migrants boarding ships in the libya and intending to go either to more tory lead or other southern european sea shores in the mediterranean and they spurious numbers growing and to be honest it's logical so that's why i am totally lined with the maltese when we say that we have to improve the abilities of the libyan cause guards for example we have to establish a coordination center in malta and we have to help the countries in need on the spot so our principle here is bring very it is needed and don't bring problems where there are no problems yet so i really see the danger that dependent me

situation will become another push factor because it's logical unfortunately but you've made that prediction more than a month ago have the numbers changed yet the numbers are growing the. colleagues in mata are very much concerned about that you see the growing number of ships. intending to go to solve the italian ports and that's right thing that now now we really have to concentrate on tackling the root causes and the pandemic situation became another root cause next to poverty and next to other economy or military. issues. let me just switch the subject at something very important in this country i can remember that on may 8th a white house tweet. raised quite a few eyebrows here in russia when it said the following that it was thanks to the

u.s. and the u.k. . that nazi germany was a raised off the map and there was no mention of the soviet union whatsoever i'm not going to ask you whether that's unfair because hopefully you'd say it is unfair but. is there something to be done with that and is that a normal thing it's obvious that when it comes to issues and questions about history reveal never agree because we see the differently the experience of differently so this is this is my understanding with this i don't judge anybody ok who things differently it isn't my position. that respecting history is very important but we politicians i think it's better if we deal with the future issues and ensure to our people that that things like wars will never take place again this is our duty this is our duty history should be left. more or less to historians we politicians have the duty to respect history

and then build the cooperation for the future even vetoes even vetoes we to leave deeply disagree on judging historic events given that you're in this country right now and you have such good relations with russian officials do you realize how how much personal they take it if you would have said that you accept pluralism on the results of world war 2 or on nazi germany because as far as i understand this is something that it's not just a sensitive issue for russia it's more than just you know i totally understand and i respect the feelings but we speak about the future of cooperation with all of my counterparts here we respect each other and we speak about how we can make life better for our generation and for the next generations. well and moving on to my last question i just want to understand if there is anything that needs to be

done in the next weeks or months to make sure we don't go back to something that some of called a disaster with what should be done not to go back to that what do you think you can talk about russia you can talk about europe you can talk about the whole world . i would dare to but what i can tell you is that. i really hope that this situation i mean because it will 'd make it clear to everybody that we are more interdependent than ever and you know we are an advocate or a promoter of east or west. for example so i hope that this situation will make it clear to everybody that if we work together we can face successfully even the toughest challenges but then we have to talk to each other and we have to work each other based on mutual respect and there i come back to what these are the principle of our foreign policy it was great to have you here at r.t.

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welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is a lot to u.k. . the u.k. government promises an hour for us to go revolution with laws in england relaxed to allow more outdoor drinking tiny country but some on the prime minister's scientific advisory group say the approach risks a 2nd wave of coronavirus. with transparency so that we can see the evidence the reasoning it's very difficult to come to any conclusions by the wisdom will not alter the measures that have taken the. u.k. researches suggest lifting the lockdown completely in a guinea pig city to see what happens but will any city's volunteer we have from the professor behind the study. more than 20 police officers have been injured after being called to break up an overnight street party in south london. for such

shows that boris johnson's conservative party was more popular among low income voters than the labor party at the last election polling expert professor john curtis thinks it's a sign of changing times when you're through server policy you support your middle class people who are just well that's ok it was highly educated corrugations including yours to graduates for the time being it was 3rd study. of the un declares. silences mauritian territory after the u.k. fails to meet its deadline to end british sovereignty we speak to a campaign on. the u.k. government is introducing legislation aimed at kickstarting england's hospitality sector the new laws will relax existing trade regulations to help pubs restaurants

and hotels capitalize on the july the 4th reopening under the plan car parks could be converted into temporary big gardens and dining areas allowing establishment to boost their capacity and temperature change the licensing laws will also allow more companies to serve alcohol outdoors and businesses will also be able to apply for exemptions to have gatherings of more than 30 people and that pick ations could also be a way to councils to extend closing times or close roads to host one off events but while the government hopes the plan will see a surge in alfresco dining experts advising the government if it may be too soon the scientific advisory group for emergency is reportedly advised the government to take a sector by sector approach rather than reopening most businesses at the same time the concern is that full scale opening risks a 2nd wave of the virus well earlier i talked to professor susan mickey you sits on the behavioral advisory group of sage she said the government needs to be more

transparent in how it makes its decisions. this is a situation where we don't have a functioning test trace and isolate system we have an estimated over 3000 new cases a day and deaths are coming down quickly as so it is still in a very very risky situation where the government always said it will follow the science that's what it says and yet on the reopening aspect it hasn't has it both with changing from a lower level 4 to 3 and with changing the 2 versus one meter guidance say appears to have been circumvented so the change the alert level rather than being advised by sages previously was done by the joint bio security center and the c.m.o. and downing street set up its own review of her scientists and economists who buys all the 2 vs one meter but we don't know who the people were on this review how

they were selected and the evidence and the reasoning hasn't been published and without transparency so that we can see the evidence in the reasoning it's very difficult to come to any conclusions about the wisdom or not of the measures that are taken it is the government they're not listening to economists more than health experts and it's impossible to know as i said when there's no transparency when really doesn't know who they're listening to but i do think that the government owes it to the british people to share the information that they have used in coming to their decisions because these decisions have huge consequences for the physical and emotional wellbeing of the population and indeed people's lives and i think going forward that does need to be much more of a partnership a consultation approach rather than a sort of top guy this is what we're saying and get on with it are you confident that we will get that transparency. well i sincerely hope we do because if there's

not transparency it's very difficult to trust and we know from scientific evidence that trusting in the government is incredibly important in terms of the tiering to government guidance and so if we are to suppress this pandemic is quickly as possible and move on and get back to the lives we all want to get back to we need maximum trust and that does mean maximum transparency and openness and what could super saturday actually lead to there's been very mixed messages coming out on the one hand that we're lifting all these things it's wonderful go out there and on the other hand well it's still a risky situation and so i think in this sort of situation what people do is listen to the evidence there or the advice they want to interpret it in the way they want to and that collectivism that was so well built up at the beginning of the pandemic is really fragmenting and it's a complex and it's

a critical situation we are still in a public health crisis and from the way that the government's talking i don't think you would realize that but we are people's lives are being lost every day as a result but as an alternative to gradually lifting the ukase lot down scientists have proposed totally lifting one local area to see if we can testing could help control the spread of corona virus researchers say the ideal candidate would be a town or city of around 250000 people all restrictions would be removed with a strict testing regime and whole households with positive cases moved into quarantine but would anyone want to be a guinea pig for that experiment we asked the residents of the english city of chelmsford which is around the right size. if we're all cramped up in one place everything infected and no one knows that everything's a good idea but i think there are sections of the population who need to be protected elderly people people with. recurring illnesses we can't just throw them

to the wolves or provide it's not the city but mouth of rome youngster would be definitely not quite. what it is completely gone and we've got a vaccine for use here forever sounds scary on the why we all think it should be lifted or told we want to say yes the virus has gone away why would we will anyone want to be an experiment what is the point of 0 doing look down and be in social distancing in the senior families for months and months and then do that makes no sense well earlier i was joined by the man behind the experiment professor julian piso he told me that he sure people would be comfortable with the plan if they were being tested. the point is it's just some people kind of a lot balustrades were and some people weren't but every week we'll see what the infection rates in the city are in a city of 250000 you might i mean that there's something of the order of one per 102000 so you might find $100.00 cases or $150.00 cases well the 1st week that you

do it but if you can do to 3 weeks are you going to just 10 cases the living bodies going to come out and the fact that it will come out a different way it is actually going forward to look at the infection rates during that initial period of low you're going to get data about 2 or 3 weeks of the build up that will that'll give you days on what's happening and is quite wide to requite wife not to come out of their worries if it's not working but maybe you'll see it from on a weekly basis whether it is work if you 101st we can see you next we continue for the next week the liver is going to come out a lot so the fact that everyone doesn't come out since it is actually good will but will well actually the scientific information but i think in the long term you know military of body will join of player testing encouraging is great in series a but how do you force people to do this new journey to the city you see you launch and ask people to do it's a join up and i mean you're quite a lot of people people when my being tested is coming out of college and they're

worried about in short it would be happy to get test we got like that with that gets reach us so that it would be tested and there's no coercion it or i mean if you if you're tested then you accepting the rules of the game which other uses of an infection in your house you're going to quarantine. more than 20 police officers have been injured after they were called to break up a street party in brixton in south london the home secretary has described the clashes as utterly vile while the mary of london has condemned the violence r.t. case chad it was dashed a report but the garrulous a large street party or gathering that was py. peaceful at the beginning we saw around 100 people hit gathering in a nice socially environment at the beginning of the early evening but eventually descended into some police clashes whereby police came to the scene on this very very incorrect still around 1 o'clock 2 o'clock in the morning to try and disperse

the crowds but there was a huge police presence that overnight and we did see some videos of the incidents whereby police and members of the public were clashing we saw perhaps being thrown tools of things but also the police reengaging in quite an aggressive manner as well now as a result 20 police officers were injured 2 of which were even hospitalized at this point in time we know that 4 people remain in custody over assault and public order offenses and directly behind me we can see that the police they have just come to the local area to try and speak to the community to see how they're feeling as a result i myself have been speaking to local residents they are quite sure that quite shocked by the entire situation they say it was rather shocking and they couldn't believe that was happening on the very doorstep they did say as i mentioned it was a very peaceful street party at the beginning and they argue that other people came in from other areas descending into these talks with the police and they say that those people have really tarnished that name but i also need to really

contextualize all of this of course we are in the middle of a global eruption of the black gloves marked his movement to many people here from the community who say at this point in time the police really should be doing a lot better in events and incidents like last night really only exacerbate the tensions between the police and the community also have to do with the black. hole we feel as well you know this really repeal as if we were being targeted so when we feel as if we've been targeted for me i will return to you you know i'm quite peaceful both of the people the real retaliates the police it's good to see you there would be local groups this really old. you start off from around here because you just it's what you would like i think it would be the best book when you take you know your buttons and you'll feel she knows i'm here for a herd of sheep it makes us feel like animals i don't like stuff like that you know at the end of the day how it's used just for many of the parts is

a 1000000 to one thing's going on and i've never seen a bunch of use of this is like just to be dispersing people out like that they walk through them peacefully in oxford nice of you because you've done the same thing to us now the prime minister spokes person has said that there were appalling scenes in the finance against police will not be tolerated we've also heard from tree to tell the home secretary she's took to twitter to say unlabeled of the incident was vile we've also got comments then from the mayor of london who called last night's events as completely unacceptable pointed to the fact that the united kingdom is still amid a partial lockdown we are aware that the corona virus is still out there and months gatherings are not yet committed which brings me on to the metropolitan police that says an event of this scale was unlawful but of course it does raise many many concerns particularly because pubs and restaurants and bars but not yet open we also know that community centers for the people in the community are not yet open so people are taking to public spaces like streets and parks to congregate in

a social fashion but crucially none of these spaces are surveyed they're not patrolled by police and they're not lit parks are not even lit so many would argue they're not in fact safe spaces to congregate after school and that really brings me to the final point of policing all the lack of caring this coronavirus pandemic many people may point the fingers at the government to say where have the police been so it looks like all the facets of the crime to far as crisis will be provided to the microsite microscope not medicate not clinically but socially as well. still to come this hour. a study shows the tories were more popular with low income voters at the last election the labor. professes to join because this explains why . the un designates the disputed cheney goes on and as mauritian territory off to the british government this is a deadline to control we hear from an activist. so

what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confront do you shouldn't let it be an arms race is on offer and skeery dramatic development is

only going to exist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to give us the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you there. welcome back a study has revealed that boris johnson's conservative party is more popular among voters from low income backgrounds the joseph rowntree foundation found that during

the 2019 general election the tory party had a 15 point lead over labor among low income voters the tories were also ahead among high income voters but by a smaller margin 40 percent of voters in this category back to the conservative party while just over 30 percent backed labor were polling expert professor john curtis thinks the latest findings are almost certainly down to the conservative party's breaks that campaign. one of these and we've long noted a bus to school is the opinion the support for leaving the airport here is high up it's a clear. lesson the education over cations is less likely to be able to make use of the freedom of movement provisions of the european union much more likely to be people who have a. feel that that community is being changed by the immigration of people has been coming into the u.k. now people with less know nevermind courtly cations are generally speaking less likely to come on higher incomes or not seems almost on

a dark speech at the principal edge of what's going on here given the op was johnson managed to do in the 29th you know that action was to rip. the increase in support of the conservatives in joining 2017 of us me votes is but at the same time lost ground and yet again among 3 main voters enough is does us me no we do not have a conservative body who say that to profile it's very very different from who are used to where usually think if it can sever party it's the party of middle class people middle class clearances and that for people with higher educational qualifications and clearly university graduates well for the time being at these various studies on us there is no end in continuing to pursue bricks it to continuing to say that we're not going to extend the transition period that's the period of negotiations by long term relationship on the transition period will be over the end of the come what may he is clearly trying to continue to come on to

the constituency but of course the things we do have to remember in politics is events dear boy the crucial event that has happened since the victory has being corrupted files public health crisis a public health crisis that many people think it's going to hurt the lower incomes those on higher incomes. when we were on the opposition benches rebecca long bailey has been sacked as the u.k. shadow education secretary by labor leader sakia star earlier this thursday the m.p. for soul food and eccles retreated an interview with actress maxine peake in the article pete claimed american police and the practice of kneeling on suspects next was from training by israeli law enforcement when bailey said she shared the article because of her respect for the actress and not as an indoor spent of the content a spokesperson for the labor leader said the article rebecca showed earlier today contained an anticipated conspiracy theory professor john curtis believes the labor leader acted decisively but certainly. thought about does not want any

chance in your worship of the criticisms of difficulties that his party is 1st one to jerk over out of which the issue about 2 summers as it was warmer is clearly interested in the 3rd place it is certainly just is the person who course was his principal rival in the leadership race and that it's a long way. now or it. now a report has revealed that british border force didn't know how many detention centers it runs and criticised a lack of oversight and accountability the study by her majesty's inspectorate of prisons found that vulnerable detainees had been held for too long one pregnant woman was held in detention for 28 hours with what it considered a little meaningful in gage meant in another case it took border force 2 hours to take a pregnant woman to hospital after being told she happened eaten for 2 days and had been confined in a van the report also revealed that little or no legal advice was made available to

people being detained while the chief inspector of prisons says there is an urgent need for a comprehensive national orders of the process. the fact that border 4 senior managers could not even tell us with certainty which of their ports actually had detention facilities suggests an alarming lack of oversight and accountability there is an urgent need for border force managers to undertake a comprehensive national order to detention to assure themselves and the public that all sites of detention are identified properly equipped for holding detainees and subject to consistent management well the chief inspector of prisons did and that staff tried to provide respectful detention but detainees were often held in very poor conditions the home office spokesperson says an audit was launched last month and a new processes for recordkeeping have been developed we take the criticisms contained in this report seriously and work to make improvements is already

underway an audit of all border force run short term holding facilities which will establish national accommodation standards was launched last month a new process is to record keeping to ensure length of detention is kept to a minimum have been developed. the un has marched the british controlled check our silence as mauritian territory on its 2020 world after the u.k. ignored its deadline to return the archipelago the islands have been the source of a longstanding dispute over its sovereignty since britain took control in the 1960 s. . well

the un's move comprises the latest and a string of attempts to pressure britain into ending its sovereignty over the islands despite an almost unanimous un vote in favor of the decision the u.k. government says it doesn't recognise the morrison claim to sovereignty the foreign office says the audience will remain british until they are no longer needed for

defense purposes. which discusses in more days hellogoodbye take us out to spurn a debt to gas but i don't thank you for joining us i mean what do you make of the u.k.'s refusal to end its sovereignty i'm happy about that because i know what will get full of our example if you take the store though you would call it well i was a medical hold up as the sun was a wall of good will go out so. what does rewriting the map really change anything. either clean everything you or we do rewriting that much but tell me about your particular story i mean you left more than 50 years ago didn't. yes and tell us about your story. where i was when i was still a bit. with my parents and my brother we were reporting that down in the seychelles we were left there are but what they care about us nobody

told us anything what is happening until 19 eighties in fact it is some marble jeb bush and probably our mari set schedule. then everything started to pop out everybody knew that we were chuckle shared we went out and yeah like they were calling us and them up which is a very sad need for us and we started to join forces in gaza sure i was aware that there were court case there's. still that there were compensation by russia's got it we bus station we have not got any or only that even a small one pulled out of stone to be a house on nothing and see if we where we never existed nobody knew that we were in the station we are as if they were saying to worse their way that how many people

aside planet or how many of you were webster the seychelles how many how many people went there there were 250 czech or sorry that's it. but most of it came from the last act but many are you know and are you hopeful are you more hopeful that you can return now or would you want to go back to your homeland i would love to go as they sit back sit and my. well i call what would i do there. like the one where we go by the new star yes we thought a lot but i meant what. i said if there were. no one to care for us all equals all what would i do that i want you to and i'm better that would you like to see the government sort out the compensation issue not yet

we stand a weighty i would you like to see the result of that definitely yes and it will be out of big big head for a chuckle said in the station well i was looking at diego garcia which is where that show previous home is of course now a military base i mean it plays a central role in u.s. and u.k. defense could shutting it down do you think damage the security advice of those countries if you believe we've yeah i've been there like the phone but i don't want the young america to grow this well. but it's are you look your age would that be there in the yellow shirt weather woes and a benefit to gas thank you very much indeed for coming on to tell a national story thank you very much with a cup and i'll be back with more news at the top of the hour here again.

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