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minister to come toward t. after quarantine so that's why we're grateful and welcome again let's get going thank you so much for an invitation it's great to be here but i do have to say that you flew into the russian capital. at a time when still every day there was $1000.00 plus new cases in moscow. but in hungary there's only a total of $4000.00 a bit more than that aren't you worried and is it really time already to go back to business as usual when it comes to diplomatic trips look i never saw basically i didn't stop during the crisis at all if i had to travel abroad for example for humanitarian reasons bringing mosques or protective clothes for our friends in the vegetable keynes or somebody else trouble trouble i take care about the hygienic prescriptions and obligations you know washing cans not to go to. no shaking hands

but sometime we did because now it's in our case it's it's over i mean from the crisis perspective but the but during the peak of the crisis i really seriously tried to respect the rules and regulations. well i mentioned the words business as usual i would like to come back to something you've been talking about for a while with other people you've had interviews with. critics have said that your prime minister destroyed democracy as usual or democracy as we've noted in hungary you've called it fake news can you give us an update on that at this point right at this point what's going on with mr or bad powers to rule by decree. see we have been in office from 2 fours and then on the roads we walk on the 3 national elections with a big margin we are in the 2 for a majority in the parliament on our own government after all free elections we have

on all of the european parliament elections since we won the all the local elections since generally and nationally speaking. and this is something that the liberal mainstream simply cannot digest and when i speak about liberal mainstream i mean politics and i mean media as well they just simply cannot digest that there is a government in the heart of europe which concentrates on the national interest a government which is based on christian democratic values a government which can see there is the real of the people as number one and the government which definitely and openly goes against the liberal mainstream and you know when i when i am faced with these accusations i always tell the. partners and colleagues ok let's give me concrete issues why you fit. democracy

is being in danger in hungary why you feel we are building a dictatorship which regulations you find not satisfying you know democratic principles the rule of law and you know then there is no answer no answer just a perception is just the general accusations just bashing and this is something which we are really fed up with to be honest because this is this is not only criticism to the government this is this is basically a questioning the capacity and ability of the and the maturity of the hungary and people there they are able to made their own decision about their own future because this government has been in power for 10 years not because of winning at the lottery this government has been in office with a big margin because we won free continuous elections and this is the view of the people why why should anybody question that i understand that but let me just make an example your key point during some of the conversations you've had was that

swift decrees allowed by the emergency powers should only be about covert 19 measures but then at the same time if i bring up a few reports in the european media they were saying for example that there was a decree correct me if i'm wrong that had to do with taxation in the regions where your party didn't do that well on the one hand you can say yes you have to save the economy which means that it how something due to do with the measures but on the other hand could that be a blow to the opposition yes then there was also a paragraph that threatened journalists in a sense like i've read in the media that they can end up in jail for 5 years because of spreading misinformation so you would say again that fake news about coronavirus is bad but there are worries about freedom of press so what can you say to that ok so if we have to react on both of them because finally we got some concrete issues based on which we can. end up in a. conversations which make sense so on the on the decrease yes state of

emergency allowed us to make decrees like in every other e.u. member states every other e.u. member states what was the problem of the opposition and liberal mainstream in europe they said that there is no concrete date of conclusion in the law which allowed us to govern by decrees we said of course there is not a concrete date because who knows when. allow us to come back to normality when it comes to decision making so what we have done now we seized we concluded the state of emergency less than 90 days opposition demanded 120 had the beginning now it took less than 90 days so this is number one number 2 when it comes to the special economy zones yes we made the decree but but in the meantime we submitted it to parliament so parliament can make a law on that because yes of course it entered into force quickly but parliament should approve that i think that's a very democracy way of of of managing things because you know

a minute comes to the economy we need investment because in order to be stronger in the post crisis period we need jobs we need people to work and how you can create jobs through investments and it cannot happen that a big company a leader of the global market in a special area would not make an investment in hungary because some local offer it is cannot made their measures on time so you know some local. abilities and incapabilities cannot end up in harming the national economy on journalism you know i've been face to rio have been faced with this criticism of. press freedom of press and journalism for 10 years again since we have been in office so this is nothing new what we have put into law was that if one circulates fake news which can end up in in troubling deep.

protective measures which can end up in. the success of the protection of the people against the pandemic then of course one has to face you know punishment or sanctions that decision which which is normal i mean it is being taken into the case going to be taken into court and then court will make the ruling but you know i had many quarrels with european colleagues on that and i asked them look do you feel good do you think it should be supported that there are people who circulate fake news based on which people might die or people view or not be protected because some kind of fake news can end up in you know actions or events which diminish the success of the protection of the people against a pandemic so my question is who are you in line beat those who are spreading fake news or those who want to protect the people there so simple well it's just perhaps

goes down to the understanding of what is fake news so my next question is it's a very recent thing by a leading hungary and news website index h u so they have a thing that they call independence barometer and. they're arrow used to point out independent and only a few days ago they switched to endanger are they just hyping it up because of what you've been saying are they trying to score points or there is actually something to be concerned about and also. as far as i understand york harlem voted to lift the is emergency powers so what is the current status right now i didn't understand so that's why i asked you for an update there so a state of emergency or as we call it in hungary a state of danger is over you seized so we are now back to normal of course we have to be cautious because no one knows how this is going to be continued i mean but there's going to be a 2nd level. not there it's going to continue after summer or not there if you

continue during summer of not so we are cautious on one hand but when it comes to regulation the state of danger. when it comes to this concrete issue which you raised with this hungry a media outlet which is a website basically they don't have a problem in this case at least with this regulation was former regulation but they have a problem with their ownership structure so. the editorial board is not very happy with the changes going on in their ownership structure which is which is a business issue i mean this is you know in a capitalistic market all parts of markets including media market is free so i mean how we're government could or should influence changes in a ownership structure between private you know persons or companies. ok i get your point could you please give me a short answer do you feel that has done

a great job in its response all together. well look. there is hunger in saying which reads in the in the in hunger in the in like praising ourselves is so important that we cannot leave it to others would be a little bit less credible if i started to praise ourselves you know what i can say is the following that the hungry and people behaved. extraordinarily the disciplined during the crisis time so they respected the restrictive measures hunger and health care system made a very good job and we were able to build or construct a let's say an air bridge between china and hungary so more than 150 aircrafts have gone back and forth in order to deliver protective equipment mosque's clothes when too late there's to hungary with which we could make sure that the capacity of the of the health care system not be let's say overlapped

by the curve of the infected person so all in all we are friends through to all hunger in citizens we are most fun food to 2 doctors nurses and all who worked has been have been working for the health care system and of course policemen and soldiers firefighters to keep the country safe under under the circumstances mr c. r 2 a let's look outside hungary for a bit if we take let's put it this way teen e.u. and the epidemic what kind of medal does the european union if any deserves for team work and team play look. that was a totally new situation to be fair enough european union maybe never had maybe your opinion never had to face such kind of situation as a whole globe did not have to face such kind of a situation the 5 put into consideration the the recent decades. so we have to be

fair on that on the other hand they have to tell you that all the answers which were the responses which were given to the media in europe were all made by the member states or national answers of worked out because the situation every countries was different. number of infected persons was different the impacts of totally different so the responses had to be made the national level and they were made on national level so according nation from brussels remained on significant during the peak do you think getting the member of the club was led down. i would say that what i say is that there was no coordination and with this i'm not bashing any institutions in brussels because i cannot say whether it would have been possible or it was totally impossible but there was no coordination for sure for the 1st yeah pretty big part of the pandemic situation just to give you

one idea when it comes to purchasing the protective equipment e.u. member states and the agents paid by the u. member states who are fighting with each other in china who come by what equipment you know so there was no coordination and when it comes to repatriation the coordination was basically made by the member states as well so we formed each other hey i have a reprint rating flights of contra you have citizens there i can take 20 i can take 50 whatever so that was made on the on the basis of the member states as well there i 4 for a role of the european union is the following on the economy you know currently it's very complicated if you as a state as a government one give so-called state aid incentive subsidy or whatever to a company to invest in your country it's possible but it falls under very strict regulations now what we want to urge european union the european commission for is to lift these regulations and allow the member states to finance subsidise.

incentivize investments in their own countries from their own national budgets in order to be able to save jobs so far it is this is and has not been made but hopefully maybe today or tomorrow it can be made but if it takes long we have been negotiating on that your opinion union for almost 2 months now and you know i mean having 2 months gone is a little bit too much under the current situation when really sometimes our worst but but mostly days definitely. he said to add to that he said he put good in each other than the main one. but on the better side going to the book on his swan song that was dismissed. instead of. me emotional learning to. do if you will still be stuck or your

muscles in the course of your knee which mrs cheney has just spoken if you go chill the. compassion that. we think she minds be soviet soldiers she's also the boots she's wearing. huge which so so looks like to move the opposing opinion more than with me the new i'm going to show stuck with some russian police force. i don't know crowd. no shots. actually felt. well and strong

no one. points your thirst for action. what were your thoughts when the russian army flew over to italy to help because some in europe were saying that this is just wot of our putin showing off or that he's just playing a trick to have at least someone in the union vote against the sign sions next time look i mean i can see. if there's a bilateral issue between italy and russia if there was an agreement on russia being italy well it's not my job to judge what i've seen is that italy was in the real trouble and we tried to help as well i mean much more limited compared to capacities of the russian federation of course like 100000 masks which is another big quantity but at least something or we could we could help but look i mean all

european union was totally defenseless to china. i mean you know i don't know but a big portion of very big portion my condo does actually go but the very big portion of all 'd protective equipments used in europe during the pandemic situation was delivered from china there was another question let me just read out a recent quote by your prime minister viktor orban i look at the countries telling us how to live properly how to govern how to run a democracy and i don't know whether to laugh or cry and it's been reported that he was referring to the black lives matter or protests or the consequences of these protests would you agree with that i mean i am not quite sure he he said this sentence in the relationship with the list as you know what yeah i can tell you why he told it like why he said that is the following. and it's totally independent from any kind of international or domestic events and on the other

countries since we have been in office we are all these lectures all this by everybody so messed up in countries and nordics sometimes i have the feeling that they they feel that it is their homework for them or a sport or a hobby to lecture to hungary and to tell us how to live how to govern how to you know to behave how to act and you know to be honest you're really fed up with that because we are a nation with a history of 1000 years and i can remember i mean from history books of course that event ever anybody would like to or wanted to save hungary areas from them. solves that played out very well very badly at the very end of the story so i have even asked danny. to finish the dutch foreign minister during the crisis when they were you know complaining about some chapters of the hungary and corona law that i has and so how it is possible that you have time for that i am working 24 hours

a day in order to be hungary and people under hunger an economy we are working for being able to purchase protective equipments we try to save lives we buying ventilators helping the companies try to put together regulations which can lead the country out of this crisis and you have time to deal with the tongue in regulations i have would have been able and i didn't want to of course i would have been able to deal with that nice finish dutch whatever regulations number one i don't care because i think they should be they should be left to the finish dutch and the danish people and let them decide that it's fine with them and it's fine it's fine for us it's not find they would change the government so it's vel above my payroll to deal with that but but there were hundreds of thousands of people infected in europe tens of thousands dying millions losing their jobs and the most important issue for nordic investor in european political leadership was was the hungary and it goes on to home. don't you maybe or someone important gave them the

homework or were the biggest cannot imagine to i just cannot imagine how it was well i mean i told them look you need to have at least 26 hours a day. because i mean i have 24 but i don't have time to deal with your issues but if we go back to black lives matter you always tend to goal against the mainstream view on things does it correspond to what the western leadership say about this right now do you have a take on what's gone on that well let's say specifically in the u.s. but we know that there has been trouble in some european countries as well in that regard look i mean we have never commented never a comment and viewer never comment domestic issues of other countries why should i comment these developments in the united states united states has a leadership it has a president it has an administration is their duty to overcome this situation who am i to comment on such kind of issues you know we base our foreign policy on a very simple principle which is mutual respect. we give respect to other countries

we don't interfere into domestic issues don't judge don't comment but we expect the same unfortunately this way it doesn't operate all the time but but it's not the reason for us to change our logic and and why should i comment on that the way i hope that the president of the united states and his administration come solve this issue. last month when you were talking about the consequences of covert 19 you did say that you expect the pandemic to trigger a new wave of migration to europe even though europe was back then the epicenter can you follow up on that prediction please and also is this really the right time to put an emphasis on migration issues and to say pretty much that now is definitely the right time to lock the doors and what i see is the following. before the pandemic migratory vevo constitutive 2 types of risks security and cultural

now such of wave can constitute 3 risks cultural security and health care and this is something that should be avoided and what we're seeing is that those countries are hit by the. even more who we countries have already been in let's say tough for economy situation very health care system is not that developed there hygenic says not there so those countries have been suffering and be a suffer even more for sure. and that's why more or less we agree with some of their european colleagues that that this pandemic situation we'll be easily another push factor for migration and as i visited malta last week you see i never stopped and had a conversation with their foreign minister they are very much concerned about migrants boarding ships in the libya and intending to go either to more

tory leader or other southern european sea shores in the mediterranean and they spurious numbers growing and to be honest it's logical so that's why i am totally in line with the maltese when we say that we have to improve the abilities of the libyan coast guard for example we have to establish a coordination center in malta and we have to help the countries in need on the spot so our principle here is bring very it is needed and don't bring problems where there are no problems yet so i really see the danger that dependent me situation will become another push factor because it's logical unfortunately but you've made that prediction more than a month ago have the numbers changed yet the numbers are growing and the. colleagues in mata are very much concerned about that you see the growing number of ships. intending to go to solve the italian ports that's right thing that now

now we really have to concentrate on tackling the root causes and the pandemic situation became another root cause next to poverty and next to other economy or military. issues. let me just switch the subject at something very important in this country i can remember that on may 8th a white house tweet. raised quite a few eyebrows here in russia when it said the following that it was thanks to the u.s. and the u.k. . that nazi germany was a raised off the map and there was no mention of the soviet union whatsoever i'm not going to ask you whether that's unfair because hopefully you'd say it is unfair but. is there something to be done with that and is that a normal thing it's obvious that when it comes to issues and questions about history reveal never agree because we see the differently the experience of

differently so this is this is my understanding with this i don't judge anybody ok who things differently it isn't my position. that respecting history is very important but we politicians i think it's better if we deal with the future issues and ensure to our people that that things like wars. view never take place again this is our duty this is our duty history should be left. more or less to historians we politicians have the duty to respect history and then build the cooperation for the future even videos even of the doe's we to leave a deeply disagree on judging historic events given that you're in this country right now and you have such good relations with russian officials did you realize how how much personal they take it if you would have said that you accept pluralism on the

results of world war 2 or on nazi germany because as far as i understand this is something that it's not just a sensitive issue for russia it's more than just that you know i totally understand and i respect the feelings but to be speak about the future of cooperation with all of my counterparts here we respect each other and we speak about how we can make life better for our generation and for the next generations. well and moving on to my last question i just want to understand if there's anything that needs to be done in the next weeks or months to make sure we don't go back to something that some of called a disaster with cold what should be done not to go back to that what do you think you can talk about russia you can talk about europe you can talk about the whole world of whom there are that but what i can tell you is that. i

really hope that this situation i mean to call it will make it clear to everybody that we are more interdependent than ever. and you know we are an advocate or a promoter of east to west. for example so i hope that this situation will make it clear to everybody that if we've worked together we can face successfully even the toughest challenges but then we have to talk to each other and we have to work each other based on mutual respect and there i come back to what these are the principle of our foreign policy it was great to have you here on our team and again thanks for the opportunity and stay safe yeah thanks a lot. it's possible. every

single corporation in america pretty much just doesn't do what it says it does the food companies don't make the car companies don't make cars the computers don't make computers they don't do what they say they're doing all they're doing is they're gaming the system by getting a free pass to spread if you're

a part of this. and then you know. paydays to the extent that it's. live from the world headquarters of r t america in our nation's capital this is the news with rick sanchez everybody and i want to welcome all of you who are watching us right now from all over the world whether you're doing so on regular t.v. on your provider or on your phone on the portable t.v. . you may find this story absolutely astonishing take a look at that statue you know that is that's abraham lincoln this statue of abraham lincoln is now also being threatened by protesters and those who find it offensive and now guarded by police why we will.