good thing starting with this time to handover now and see my colleagues in the london coverage coming up in a few moments martin you can. join me every thursday on the alex i will be sure and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics school or business i'm sure business i'll see you there. this is our c u k and we start with some breaking news still currently looking at live pictures of glasgow city center where a serious incident has been declared. shoddy overstock he joins me with all the latest on this chad here can you tell us what's been happening. well we don't know too much to tell right now but what i can tell you is that a major incident has been declared in glasgow and is essentially an area that's really now in lockdown so we understand that some stopping of some sort has taken place this afternoon on west george street just to give you an idea in picture of where exactly that is it's very close to the shopping district near the city center

at this point in time we understand that 3 people have been victim to some sort of stopping with several others also being injured at this point in time we also know a suspect has been shot to shot dead while we don't know if he is dead yet but he has certainly been shot we believe all of this happened in a stairway of a hotel we think that's the hotel's park in on west george street in glasgow and it's also understood that this suspect as i say has been shot now there is a huge heavy police presence on the scene you can see in these live pictures on your television that there's about a few dozen police vehicles on the scenes and we've also heard from the scottish police federation has completely cornered off the entire area of releasing a list of streets to avoid at all points in time which is a message that the state nicholas sturgeon the former 1st minister has reiterated today. as you can see on your screen she has

tweeted out saying to the general public to avoid the west george street in all its entirety please have also sealed off this area and part paramedics in hazmat suits where treating a person on the bloodstain pavement as well allegedly a police officer has been stopped that is unconfirmed at this point in time we're also told though from the scottish police federation that this incident is contained we also understand that there seems to be no further threat to the public we are trying to get as much detail as possible none of this is confirmed at this stage it is clearly a very developing story but what we can reiterate is there's no danger to the public right now and the message to the public is to avoid the area. well i'm now joined by the former head of the national counterterrorism security office chris phillips. chris thank you very much for joining us this is very

concerning i mean what are the police doing at this time well of course i mean this is terrible and that it soon guys goes all of this is. almost impossible to prevent. i think someone with a knife there is another run so let's. just last week and of course the police have now had to cordon off the area and try to deal with the situation is it going well chris this obviously hasn't been confirmed as a terror attack at the moment has it no it hasn't i think is a great deal of similarities to the incident we had a couple weeks ago weeks ago but of course we don't know that and that always comes down to the motivation person's. data does want more details is it that you're getting chris. well i'm just picking up bits and bobs so you are up to the moment of. very serious injuries you know possibly even dead

a place of sort of 0 it's certainly one of the injured parties. but of course scotland hasn't had too many terrorist attacks back in glasgow many years ago there was a terrorist attack in the air force but apart from that it's been recently clear of terrorist attacks so this will come as a big shock to scotland and also they were a big shock to the police and they all thought he's given the situation with the coronavirus that the country's been on the guy well it's not miracle nightmare at moment one thing after another the. police under attack in london over the last couple of days and of course they have to deal with these terror terrorist attacks of this attack as well which my might not be terrorism but. just sort of busy days and i think this whole weather's not helping as well and of course coming out of lockdown doesn't doesn't help the police so this is all just really difficult for the place the main thing here it seems that they've got the every containing they've got. my understanding is that they may have controlled the person that's.

been committing these this knife crime and i think from there on the it is just making sure no one else is involved and the police have confirmed that there is no danger to the public anymore that this has been contained as a former police officer chris can you talk us through the background of one something like this an operation like this what would be happening what the police be doing well 1st and foremost it's important the police catch the offender be a friend and any and the accomplices because you know there's not a information yet to tell us what this was someone that did this on his own or whether it was a group of people so they got to stop the initial threat and to do that they've got to find out who's involved that had to deal with that threat then of course it comes to looking after the victims and the victims' families and also all these witnesses the crime scene this this may well have all been captured on c.c.t.v. so that will have to be dealt with a lot sooner also won't know i was the. to find out who did it why they did it and enough theoretically to bring

a court case against someone and also chris i mean we obviously at this stage we can't link these particular instance but also this follows on the back of an incident that happened in reading as well is it a particular time on the earth or it is on a high alert. well it says that the threat in the u.k. is substantial well and that means i know takrit happen at any time and of course that that is what's happened he is actually relatively low on the attacks threshold in as much as it's been much more than that the threat levels have been much higher than that but that's generally when the police are aware that there are people out there of course if this person has come out of nowhere or maybe on the list of 40000 others that are also. slightly terrorist employee and then of course that doesn't mean to say that the threat level needs to go up and if this person's been dealt with and there's no one else involved then the threat level won't go up tomorrow we're looking at some of those details coming straight at chris has been confirmed by the police that a male suspect has been shot dead so it's

a situation as a place inside has been neutralized doesn't it yeah well you know from my perspective i'm very pleased about that because it means you can't harm anyone else the most important thing is a vote of course to try and keep people safe and what we see in their pay is. but this is this is also straight out of the isis handbook that they pronounce to the world to all their followers to do this kind of thing so this is this is directly from their own because of what to do whether it's usual guns usual noise or usual calls to kill people in their own country so so tonight you stand this could well be a terrorist related incident well we'll have to find out the police will talk about that later i'm sure when they got more information about the suspect who did it and what his motives were there's a saying that hasn't yet be confirmed that they say anything to do with terrorism terror knighted as we know yet what kind of advice could you give the public or also how could you reassure them after a situation well that. you know the most important thing you know if you get co-op

in something like this you know you're really unlucky i mean these things whilst we're talking about them now they don't happen very often the chances of any individual being co-opted to terrorists that are very low however it's most important people understand their surroundings and what's happening around them they understand you know understand where the people are coming towards them or going away from them invariably the most safe the safest take this thing that you can do is move away from any situation like this and if you don't know it's happening then you won't be able to do that so people walking around with headphones looking at if it's pretty much the worst thing you can possibly do to give yourself a chance of surviving any kind of attack but it's a benefit so if you do stick to social distancing as well that probably gives you a little bit lisa more perspective has that same stuff coming in as well chris mean what does the investigation look like as it is now going forward with these very early days the most important thing as i said was to grab hold of the person that's

involved whether they kill him or whether the way they deal with him arrest him but then also to find out whether it's the other people involved in this and whether he said actually are low necked or whether he's working with a group of people and if he's working with a group of people then they need to be arrested as well and then of course it comes into the investigation the investigation will take a number of phases but you have to look after the crime scene so that will be sterilized as much as possible this photo will be will be out of byron's until the forensics teams are done that work likewise you then move into the investigation so will the witnesses that have to be interviewed they'll be hundreds of those no doubt and and then of course the place of going to start looking at searching his house and anyone else that may have been linked to him so all those forensic opportunities need to be taken and of course telephones and mobile phones and the restraint talking to said that needs to be interrogated is a huge amount of work that follows on from this but of course the most important thing is that those poor victims and anyone else that may have seen this is going

to be in a terrible state it is what i mean also in terms of the victims going forward as well what kind of support to the police officer to people who have seen a situation like this. well there it's much better now than it used to be in my diet can assure you that a lot of thought is put into how we look after victims of crime in there and there are and those people are just seeing crime as you say a horrendous situation excuse me. horrendous situation for anyone to deal with and they need to have some help and of course the victims and their families the families of those this will last forever in their memory a lot of shocking it's shocking to any details that are coming through so far as i can confirm that as i say $900.00 plus they decide that they the situation has been neutralized by the police in scotland that one man has been shot we are waiting for more details and you having any more details coming through for you chris nothing from my own on picking up the same as you are actually but of course there is

a lot of rubbish information that comes out on times like this as well and you know people some are going about what's happened there the most important thing is to listen to what the police are saying and it's a place of saying that that threat is largely gone then that kind of tells you that the suspect has been dealt with and that danger in imminent danger is gone but of course what we've seen here probably quite for possibly is copycatting and this is something you know unfortunately the world's going to do when there are individuals out there that want to commit these types of the want their day in fame and to some extent we've got to stop the moment that they are failing and we're going to prevent these attacks but that's a tremendously difficult 'd thing for 'd the police and communities to do that is difficult for the place what to actually like for the police on the ground and with a situation like this well dealing with it now it's real crisis control so you're trying to prevent any more deaths any more injuries so the emergency response is

one thing but then of course you move into the slightly longer term investigation and that will be going on for months and months and i think the parking rate from what we could i was only just recently been opened so so you can a man. the amount of time and effort that goes into actually getting all the evidence together so that there is some kind of case and we know exactly what's happened and why it's happened and also there's a issue of dealing with misinformation as well isn't the question how do you combat that while social media is a great boost in some ways so much information so many videos of the videos of this actually happening are seeing 2 or 3 videos already of the police moving in but of course it's a real negative as well and some people will say one tiny aspect of this and will start making comments on that not realizing all the things that happened around it and you see that all the time on social media it's a dreadful thing and and of course once at bruma gets out then that can be difficult to stalk but the most important thing is that this gives this gives the

police the opportunity to gather better evidence against the suspect on this occasion it looks like he's been killed but of course all. ago a week ago and that man was still alive and will end up going to court also so this is there are difficult situations and social media has made the world of policing easier in some ways but a lot more difficult ready in office as crisp and it's many thanks for your thoughts thank you for joining us. and imagined by an eyewitness to the incident in glasgow that's jamie n a r jenny thank you very much indeed for joining us can you tell us what happened so you walk in a phone shop a very close to a dance that happened to me out of all of the side and heading towards the street. where the incident took place so where they're not to go back at their last moments ago dr moreau started it wasn't so much very quickly i realized it wasn't just a police incident because it was more the more police arrive in the resemblance is

that even then some of the police officers of the town and out well like almost and through and police uniform with with guns and things that are so. i realize it's quite serious people that there were in the basement or confusion people being moved out of the area and the people was in the scene. and then stabbing people and other people was in there was a bank robber who was very unclear what was happening the fast but then when um when he came in we see people being a quick little been taken away and then we saluted really serious of just here there that if people would update us that we believe that in the tent jamie can you describe the area way where you are at the moment and way you saw the incident take place we had been before that it was in a hotel could you give us a few more details. yes so. in the main street is where i'm back at my my office no up just him but he insists i just want to be for that is to to buzz in is this this causing things i don't buy the tell you in is just out say twitter believe the hotel was we didn't know before there's

a bank close to that which as we came to meet sense that we thought maybe there was a back road to going on and but then that the streets lit a very busy streets and it's a set up a lot of the owners obviously just people stunted to go but to walk in offices and things was done to get presidents ace and also his old boss is in charge of going to bed it was just knowledge to go in and so the priest was a little having a good place to take basically closer roads down and if people away from it as the camp has so many police officers so many and like police on it on the street as well very quickly and how long did all of this happen was it over a fast. within the space and so the police started close and there was a thing in space maybe 510 minutes and they started closing the roads off and a few b.b.c. stepped inside and simply said response that i've been from from all different directions and the just started moving people by the idea of it that it was clear that when the on disciplines people were under started to to be clear it was a it was something very serious because they want is going to come full force and

the stubbins england school well the police this was obviously something that was it a lot more serious to them and you didn't you didn't say anything to do with the paper try to anything like that just the place you know are people that say that they had someone was show and by the other didn't feel that at the time it was just it was a lot of stories will come out some people even suggested it was an attempted kidnapping so it was that's how you see the stories will come to the table is a lot of confusion what was going on and guys who people don't tend to run away from a scene that tend to run it will get all the cameras or injury like phelim what's going on which is sometimes a shame because i know that there's no such as online people so again taken i mean stretchers and things that are and how do you think that i stank. yeah i've sort of seen the the touches of people in the church was in the obvious of the most of the seventy's attend to them and then return when members he's left obviously know that us that's where they're going and so now we've just hear that people have died and

there's a lot of confusion of over what we didn't think it was that serious at the time. because for these mega police operation of if it was a bank robbery that's even less serious and people being killed so never saw. something very serious that this went on and they were they had game we've had confirmation from the place saying that one man has been has been has been killed has been each eyes that i mean was it something the is it a particularly scary event how do you feel is it a shocking. i think you use. your curiosity so it takes over as a setting large to we've got. running towards scenes that we frank friends are going on. to a closed door so much shock and we headed down to see what what was going on also i mean if it if it came in and we needed to think that it's not just that we wanted to trouble like people wanted people help us to john but this is quite clearly a scene that the police had take control of very quickly because by the time we had

got there there was un alive done today the other was people be moved there there was people that worked all shocked about try to tell the story of what they seen and so one man was explaining to me that he's seeing the police that i've gone he said that is in the mind good show and in the guy had been and stubborn people. i intended the place as well jamie had to feel that the place that handle this. i think i mean the priests in the last few weeks and god's going to be active and saluted by protests in and even last night and one of the pops the police moved in that it moved every one of the polytech up to 10000 people to move them so the police had been so on the toes in the last few weeks so frank to be to deal with situation less obvious was a totally different type. such a nation in us is a really dangerous situation for them and bought the need to mobilize to so quickly especially to say send others over this there's a lot to stations that are in and guys who say send us to the covering the came in from over all the sub areas as well things like that in the very quickly as i can

only say saying that they all they handled all of this and seem to have it contained in very quickly then yes it looks like obviously obviously it is an incident happened that at that meeting they're free people of lost or low wages it is pretty shocking but that the police. definitely moved them very quickly closed off the area moved people it didn't have to be there and if pushed through they go back to like traffic not trying to get into their lives or to destruct or where they're going over so that was created to save lives is real so the done off to sort contain not carry any of thank you very much indeed for joining us and telling us what's behind our psyche thank you very much indeed. well us u.k. shadier edwards daschle joins me now with the latest on the incident showed you can you give us a round at the end of the old events that have been developing this morning yes absolutely obviously nothing is confirmed at this stage but what we do know is a major incident has been declared in glasgow of the west george street it's now an

area sensually in lockdown so what we understand is that 3 people have been stopped to death in a park in a hotel on the west george street it appears that all 3 people have died and several people have also been injured we've also got confirmation at this point that a police officer has been injured and he is now being treated in hospital we've got some live pictures there for you on your screen where you can see a huge police presence dozens of vehicles on the scene but also a huge response from ambulances as well now we do understand that west street is a near the shopping district near the heart of the city center usually an area that would be quite busy so of course an area of huge concern at this point in time we also know that amply sealed off the area very quickly indeed you can as i say there is huge police presence still on the scene but they did come incredibly quickly indeed now we have also heard from some eyewitnesses on the scene who said that

they saw people bloodied being taken away on stretchers from this park in hotel we understand that the hotel did tell people that was staying there to remain within their rooms for the for the foreseeable future we also spoke to an eyewitness just earlier today who said the police responded very quickly indeed also that this point we do understand that the park in her tell at this point in time has been used as temporary accommodation jury in the coronavirus crisis but at this stage we don't know of any motive or any reason behind this attack we are waiting at this point to find out what on earth has happened this afternoon but we've also heard from the scottish police federation they're representing of course the rank and file offices and have confirmed that the area is in lockdown has released a list of areas to avoid for the general public and we've heard from nicholas sturgeon the 1st minister of scotland and she's urged the public to stay away. if we can just get her tweet up on our screen we can see that she is as the public

to stay away from the area and it's also sending her condolences to the family who obviously are grieving at this point in time we've also heard from the police there say the incident is contained at this stage the police scotland spokesperson says the incident has been contained and there is no further threat to the public we have pasta trying to get as much detail as possible there isn't a great deal of confirmation out there at the moment obviously a developing story but the key message is to avoid the area and just to reiterate from the police they are reiterating there is no danger at this point to the public . and i understand that we cannot go too dull babu the former metropolitan chief super down thank you very much indeed for joining us and shocking as there are 3

people reportedly dead. it's a very very sad day when you hear of 3 fatalities understand some other individuals are injured as well and i understand a police officer is injured at the moment so i think at this moment we really know very little the police will update us house and when but their priority will be about making the area safe so that people don't get injured and i think that's what the messages are trying to get at the moment is really much around reassurance around the fact that the scene is contained that and they don't see any further dangers. to other people and i understand that the suspect has been detained and may well have been shot but i think at this stage we just need to get clarification from the police lots of speculation at the moment well dull incidents like this obviously at this point we don't know sort of the motivation behind this incident similar to this since becoming more and more frequent and the last week we had that stabbing incident in reading didn't we. yeah and i think at this stage we don't know we don't know where these are and mental health we don't know whether it's

around terrorism or it could be crime it could be alcohol related i mean what appears to be clear is that somebody or some persons had a knife and i think at this stage it's really really important to sort of try and get an accurate picture of the police's draw or see at this stage will not be to provide that information to the public other than reassurance it will be about making the area say seeing if there's any other victims and this is a it's a big complex so they want to make sure that there's not any other individuals who are hurt to maybe in places that they haven't seen they want to make sure that all the suspects that are involved in this are. contained so i think that that is going to be their major priority and it's a moving situation so now those police officers arrive there will be given new information and they'll be a team an intelligence team will start trying to clayton exactly what's happened with the public in the meantime they got to be thinking wow i don't i mean how can they be reassured that everything is going to be alright. well that the police have

indicated that this is a contained scene i think that's the that's code for the police to say actually this is where the incident is happening it's not happening elsewhere but people are going to be worried and it's a you know if you know we're coming to a lockdown we're there people are being been very good they've been tearing through the conditions but now people are coming out and you know we are seeing more and more of these kind of instances where you know the post lockdown we're having injuries to people and sometimes multiple injuries to people what can the government do to prevent incidents like this and or state to burn them happening again. well it's very very difficult you know if somebody's got a knife they can do a huge amount of damage and the police will not know what occurred and they'll go call some he's got a knife they don't know if it's going to be alone individual they don't know it's going to be a group of individuals they don't know tonights can can can i concealed so it puts the police officers in an incredibly difficult position glasgow has talked to

around the world about it's reduction in night crime but we just need to remember that if somebody's got a knife they can potentially cause a huge amount of damage to some of the day what do you think the government should do going forward. well i think one of the biggest difficulties we've had is we've had a loss of 22000 police officers and we've had a loss of 18000 police stuff across the united kingdom i think that's been one of the biggest challenges in the middle of replacing those police officers but this is then we've had covert and so so that is the challenge you know we need to learn lessons that you can't cut policing and then expect things to remain the same and we see this happening over and over again so i think one of the lessons it for the people in power is is don't cut police numbers and look at invest in policing or the government would say that they are putting more police on the streets as well how quickly can these new recruits come in. well you know on the chance a civilian into a police officer overnight we've already reduced the training i had the luxury of 5

months residential training followed by almost 3 months training with a dedicated constable on it when i went out on tottenham in london in london a lot of the police officers now do training online and they then have 4 to 6 weeks training at a police station and then they go out so that you know it's pretty challenging we're asking a lot of new recruits so i think the government really need to look at the training they're providing to police officers and make sure we don't make this mistake again in the near future where crime starts coming down and we then start cutting police officers again and in terms of the general public as well and community leaders what can they do to improve the situation well this is a time for reassurance it's about trying to keep people calm people will be anxious the police will step up patrols in and around this area i should imagine they'll be quite a lot of activity on social media that want to leave their want to go and talk to their contacts and their last contact key stakeholders whether it's m.p.'s m.s.p.

m.s.p. saw a whole range of people who have influences in in that area to try and give a common message of calmness so whether it's sort of you know through schools the schools will be sort of coming back at youth workers and it depends on who the victims are in this was this a group of individuals who were no nice to each other with a unknown to each other all of that information where we're very very unclear on what the police response will depend on who these people are more details that we don't bother many thanks for joining us thank you thank you anna. and i'll be back with more news at the top of the scene. as the culture war rages on a baited the billionaire response is only getting well you're there well iraq 20 percent or $584000000000.00 since the start of the pandemic splash law how will these facts shape to compete coverage and his extermination under been ignored.

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a park in the hotel on glasgow on question george street in the city center which is just a stone's throw from the shopping district in the city we also understand that several people have been injured one of which we has been confirmed as a police officer who is now being treated in hospital as you can see on these live pictures from the scene as a huge police presence but also a huge response from the ambulance services as well in fact it does appear that there's more than a dozen of these emergency services at the scene so what we understand this point there's been some sort of stepping we're not understand absolutely sure as to what has happened and why this is happened but armed police did say it off the area incredibly quickly on west george street and paramedics even in hazmat suits were at the scene very quickly indeed we are understanding that people were treated at the scene and on the bloody pavements by the ambulance services eyewitnesses said that that is the images that they had seen with people being taken away on

stretchers now we spoke out r.t. spoke to one eyewitness themselves who said the place responded very quickly indeed . look an awful shock very close to it and the cop in the middle of all deciding it into the street. where the incident took place so. not a good look at the look so much of the charm of those dots if you purchase and so many very quickly i realized it wasn't just a police incident because it was more to be a piece of knowledge in the resemblance is that i even learned some of the resources of the tanakh will almost a true police uniform with good gardens and the things that are so. religious could see these people that were in the boat was all to shoot people be moved to. the people seem to be seen a man. in stubborn people and other people will soon there was a bank robber who was really unclear what was happening the cost but in the numbers he came in we see people being a quick little been taken away and then we saluted would really see this not just

here there that people had to get past that we believe that in the tent jamie can you describe the area way you way you are at the moment and way you saw the incident take place we had been before that it was in a hotel could you give us a few more details yes so. in the main street is where i'm back at my my office no just him but he insists i just want to be for that is to to buzz in is this this cause and things i don't buy the tell you in is just oh say twitter believe the hotel was we didn't know before there's a bank close to the widows who came to meet since that we thought maybe there was a fight broke to get on. as i say not much has been confirmed at this stage but we do believe that the park and hotel have been used as temporary accommodation during the coronavirus lockdown period but of course no reason or motive has been confirmed as to what exactly has happened on the scene this afternoon we have heard from the scottish police federation they're the ones that represent the rank and file officers who have confirmed the area is in lockdown they've released a list of street names of which the public should avoid that's

a message that's been reiterated by the 1st minister of scotland nicholas sturgeon she today has immediately tweeted out urging the public to avoid the area but also at this point saying her thoughts are with everyone involved she says she's being updated on the situation as it becomes clear and she's asking and urging the public to help the emergency services do their jobs by staying away from the vicinity we're also told by the police at this stage at the incident is one that has been contained as scotland spokes person for the police has says the incident has been contained and there is no further threat to the public obviously this is an incredibly developing story we don't have as much detail as we'd like on all of this and certainly we don't have any confirmation but of course we'll bring you the latest but what i can reiterate is that the police say there is no danger to the public but the key message to the public is to avoid the area.

not chatty overstudy thank you very much indeed for joining us and we are now rejoined by former metropolitan chief superintendent at starbucks dollar thank you for joining us once again as we say those shocking scenes in glasgow nasty people it's looking like reportedly that. you know i mean as you've said this is very very early days. we understand the hotel used to be accommodation. with. people with terrorism related really related to me who can constantly be all the. and none of those and that's the difficulty with these kind of situations because there's a thirst to 24 hours to the news what we will have now which we didn't have enough in the past these images will be circulated and it's really very important to not to speculate around where it is because we just don't know there are so many different variations or could happen i think the key thing is to listen to the official messages that are coming out and the police are basically saying the only

incident is contained that night would suggest that they have and they are confident that they've they have identified all the victims and the suspect but that's not clear at this day and the other clear bit of advice it's been given by a number of the key stakeholders is don't go to the area so i think you can help the emergency services by avoiding the area and also help the better services well in terms of information as well what kind of advice do the police say to the public when they say fix me people have been taking photos and videos here how does that help the police investigation. well if they send any images to the police i think it may be helpful but i think what's very very worrying is that and i think there's an element of selfishness here people take images and start circulating it and sometimes they identify people and so loved ones would have no idea about what's happened to the nearest and dearest and then they suddenly see a picture of somebody and what some of the news induced been looking injured or

looking distressed or being a victim of crime so are i would appeal to people who are thinking of circulating images that they've taken to think very carefully to think about the well being of the victims that them a photograph but also their friends and families who would have no idea what actually happened and it showed up and it's much better for people to be informed that somebody as i'd as certainly been been a victim of fatal act or has been injured if a police officer were trained individual goes along and actually shows an information as opposed to just seen on social media outlets or talking to you earlier al and also chris phillips as well i mean what kind of thing now are the police going to be doing. well i think at this stage it's really about information gathering trying to build up a picture of what's happening so people will want to know politicians will want to know what's happened they'll be desire from a whole range of different stakeholders who want an idea of an accurate picture so some some individuals will be sitting there piecing all the information gathering

all the intelligence that intent intelligence cell would be absolutely key to this and people be feeding information into intelligence and they want trying to build a picture does trying to decipher all the rumors that come in so though they'll want to put aside all the speculation and say this is what we definitely know and what appears to be this is the number of victims we have this is where they fatal or seriously injured this is a suspect this is the location and that essentially would be probably the information they have everything else will be speculation and then as they're able to triangulate that information from different sources then there will be able to build a much more accurate picture and at that point then the police will be able to share that information with the different agencies and probably call a news conference when that when they've got much. stronger information is all about strong information isn't and also sifting through misinformation as well isn't it. absolutely and that's a that's a big difference aaron said you know certainly when i was a young lad you know you might have one person with a camera you would have lots of people with phones but now people have phones and cameras they take images they send those images to their friends before you know it

those images become viral and viral and you end up with sort of misinformation becoming sort of the news news so that you know people have a real responsibility to make sure that they don't play into that and actually just think a little bit about the victims i was reading a report about one individual that was identified to very clearly know if somebody's got evidence of that individual they need to be very responsible about who they share that with ideally they shared with the police authorities were then able to build up a picture and they also in terms of incidence i mean whether that cannot hit or not obviously nobody knows with us we don't know what type of incident we're dealing with at the moment we don't know if it is a terrorist threat but incidents like this in terms of a stabbing seem to becoming more and more frequent i mean only last week there was the reading incident how can we reassure the public at this particular time. well i think it's about that having vigilance so if you know if you have concerns about people then make sure you inform the authorities i think the difficulty now is and

you know if you have briefly talk about terrorism and we don't know if it is terrorism it may well not be what we've seen with terrorism terrorism is becoming increasingly low tech terrorism so basically you don't have the sophisticated ira cells that we used to out in this country i remember as a little boy and so she you go and go when into sainsbury's when the ira were at their height i re-use to sort of go into an area they used to embed themselves to some a very very sophisticated system but what you're now getting these people get radicalized on the internet and that's after being radicalized on the internet then then you know go out and grab a knife and cause a huge amount of damage with that i mean that's what has always put itself forward has this city that's actually turning night crime around and people from all of the world can visit glasgow to look at what they're doing but in this one incident just shows that precarious any kind of success stories because it would only take one or a couple of individuals to actually carry out these horrendous acts to make us

realize how vulnerable we all are from the from lines going forward then how can we are the public in resolving crime. by the public to keep so robert peter when he introduced the police service in 1929 said at the public or the police the police the public so the public will be able to provide information intelligence we don't know how the police became aware this may be one of the victims of the attack or it may be a member of the public who saw it was going on from the police and then the police would have then turned up they would have relied on the public to to listen to their commands about sort of the not going to particular areas clearing other areas so you know the confidence with the police is and the public is absolutely key yes in the u.k. we police by consent directly. absolutely i mean we're not aunt unlike a lot of other police forces around the world and actually works but we do have armed units and i remember as a young p.c.

when i was called to carry an instant in tottenham where there was a man armed with a gun and i went in with a colleague armed turn to kick the door in the guy pointed to going to me and shot in the bullet got stuck in a barrel now if you fast forward to now if you had that call now you would have it wouldn't be me answering the call police officer with a truncheon it would be an armed police officer you'd have negotiators there you have a risk assessment you know be much more sophisticated so we've moved on quite considerably and the police are very good at dealing with these kinds of incidents it was reassuring and find it out before i let you go in terms of relations with the police we've been covering stories over the past few weeks basing it about relations between the public and police do you think that that is something that is actually good in is do you think it's something that can be strengthened. but we're definitely strengthened i think one of the key things is of these it is about representation making sure that you have an organization that represents looking unity and i think policing good as struggled with that so that's something that

that will help with reassurance and confidence in the police in my experience the police is very a different beast to what it was when i joined so there's been significant progress but there's much still much more work to be done now bobbie thank you very much indeed for your accurate michel thank you. well there i spoke to the former head of the national counterterrorism office that's chris phillips he said it was too early to increase the threat level in the basis of this incident but also it is will be monitoring the ongoing situation. it says that the threat in the u.k. is substantial well and that means i know takrit happen at any time and of course that that is what's happened he is actually right relatively low on the attacks threshold in as much as it's been much more than that the threat levels have been much higher than that but that's generally when the police are aware that there are people out there of course if this person has come out of nowhere or maybe on the list of 40000 others that are also. slightly terrorist employee and then of course

that doesn't mean to say that the threat level needs to go up and if this person's been dealt with and there's no one else involved then the threat level won't go up tomorrow we're looking at some of those details coming straight at chris has been confirmed by the police that a male suspect has been shot dead so it's a situation as a piece of sight has been neutralized doesn't it yeah well you know from my perspective i'm very pleased about that because it means you can't harm anyone else the most important thing is if of course to try and keep people safe and what we see in the bay is. but this is this is also straight out of the isis handbook they pronounce to the world to all the followers to do this kind of thing so this is this is directly from their home because of what to do whether it's usual guns usual noise or usual calls to kill people in their own country so so tonight extent this could well be a terrorist related incident we'll have to find out the police will talk about that

later i'm sure when they got more information about the suspect who did it and what his motives were and we'll be keeping you updated with that glasgow incident throughout the course of the day and i'll be back with more news after a short break.

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welcome back and moving on to other news as the u.k. eases its coronavirus long term some businesses are getting ready to reopen but others are being left in limbo and is on to you casey surrounding reports the reason appears to be far from clear. imposing the crime the virus locked up was simple and easy to understand for the public and for business is essential work only only shop for food and medicine when it comes to the reopening it's much more complex some businesses can open and some can't and in many cases there's no obvious reason why i'm acutely conscious the people will ask legitimate questions about why certain activities are allowed and others are not and i must ask the house to understand that the

virus has no interest in these debates it's only interest it's only a ambition is to exploit any opportunities to recapture ground that we might carelessly vacate there are some contradictions pubs restaurants cinemas and bingo halls are all set to open but indoor gyms pools and spas often more spacious well ventilated and with strict cleaning regimes already in place can't and if it's about safety then business owners say that making those necessary changes to observe the one meter possibly ice now in place in england won't be too difficult at all they're not always packed so you often find space and people in the gym at the same time gyms to also take a lot of time and effort into cleaning and you know there's a lot of emphasis on wiping things down after use and sanitation and so on so. it's

difficult to really say i mean they probably could have made provisions considering that people will be packed in pubs probably making body contact knowing the gyms. that i'm aware of the number of people they employ. based compared to a bar or restaurant etc you know the gyms do employ less people so i would say that that probably has more pull in getting people back into work and and and you know even revenue and kind of the the revenue that these kind of establishments generate will be will be higher than most gyms comparative gym so there are even anomalies and social distancing has fallen for instance can't open with the right kids one of the beauty parlors and talk through its remains shots for businesses such as nightclubs what's needed is confirmation but at some point they will be able to open and more financial support from the government neither of which appeared to be forthcoming seriously because research. give us some chalk it dates or

understanding on how long this is going to stop financially work starts and start to let them understand when and how they're going to reengage so lots of this is about there's so many people at the moment really on the brink and we've got to start taking a human element to this because it's people's lives you know we're playing with and we need to get to a point where we resolve that and i know they're saying they can't save everybody but the fact of the matter is we need to try and move that forward and gets open and people can generate that revenue start coming back the government says it's conducting sector by sector reviews to help those who can't open to do so i don't need to date but with warning the 2nd wave of the virus and the possibility of lockdowns to come business is unable to make any money during the current easing restrictions fear that means they may never open the doors that can easily are too long the. one sect which will be open is holiday rentals a u.k.

. based holiday or staycation has been booked every 11 seconds since the government announced the easing of restrictions cornwall is the favorite spot followed by the lake district as holiday parks campsites and rental cottages seen a boom while self-catering rental brands have seen their best ever online sales with some seeing surges of nearly 500 percent. or more and all of this is joined by the chief executive of u.k. hospitality kate nichols kate thank you for joining us i mean surely great foster talented to see a surge in so-called steak asians but after the crowds in bournemouth this could be very worrying couldn't it. well i think what we do know is that if we open our hospitality sector if we open our hotels or holiday park self-catering accommodation we can help manage social distancing in those public places clearly at the moment crowds are keen to get out into the sun and with out all the facilities and support packages the hospital if he can provide they are left with

nowhere to go so i think reopening most in tallahassee will help to manage that move towards. outdoor activities in a safe and more sustainable way and also we can make sure that we're providing the hygiene the sanitation the cleaning facilities for all of those people to enjoy and keep them safe while they're out enjoying the good weather but what is there if there's a big influx of tourism to a very small area there could be local outbreaks. where we have to make sure that we are doing everything we possibly can to keep our guests and our local community say and clearly. to residents patella the businesses they are right at the heart of that community so they don't want to do anything which would make their communities unsafe they will be putting in place world beating protocols for cleaning hygiene sanitation to make sure that the risk of infection is controlled and minimized if not eliminated and we will be working hard to keep our teams safe and our customers safe while they are staying with us it's in all of our interests to make sure we do

everything we can to have socially responsible holidays socially responsible hospitality and to encourage young guests and customers when they come down to clean and sanitation and to protect our economy but it is also vital that we get those local communities and economies working they've been closed and shut down since last november by and large and tourism is the biggest employer and also a big generator of other economic benefits in subsectors that retail and other local services well how much will reduction in social distancing in england make the situation point. well it's a big step forward for a lot of our pubs by. and restaurants they will be operating able to operate at 70 percent of capacity they have 70 percent of their normal revenues which means that they can get towards breakeven point if they'd stuck it to meet a social distancing then that would have meant that they would have been operating at significant cost many of them wouldn't have been able to reopen and so it is the difference between saving a $1000000.00 jobs and having

a 1000000 people coming back to work from the 4th of july in those 2 is an area where can the sectors survive on one meter distancing than mean it's easier but it's by no means back to normal isn't it isn't sexual just be at breakeven this is a sector that's been hard hit by covidien revenues started to decline from january this year we are 1st in the disease in the crisis we are going to be last out we're going to need additional government help and support until we get through to the next april which is the start of our 2 reason holiday season next year and so we're looking to the government to prioritize investments into its services and to stimulate demand through a vaca. thank you very much for joining us kate nichols thank you very much. well that staycation could be off the table if the government seeks to shut it down it has warned the public could be forced to close beaches after thousands flocked to the coast since critics warn that unclear rules on the easing of the coronavirus lockdown has left britain's confused about want to loud traffic jams over crowding

and anti-social behavior were seen as beachgoers travel for hours to reach the dorset codes on the south of england the bournemouth christ church and pool council declared a major incident and said services were completely unfair stretched it prompted the chief medical officer to plea for people to respect social distancing or risk undoing previous efforts while the health secretary warned action could be taken if infections rose as a result. got to respect the rules you got to respect social distancing is still important and we do have we do have ours and if we see a spike in the number of cases then we will take action when it comes as the government's test and trace system is getting worse at contacting those who have come into contact with the virus due to fewer people being at home data shows that the number of close contacts of those testing positive reached by the system fell by over 9 percent from the previous week while as many as 30 percent of those who tested positive couldn't be contacted by the scheme well there are also concerns

about social distancing after the prime minister reduced the rule from 2 metres to one metre plus it's emerged that the rule won't apply to schools when they return from the summer break and in time classes will be able to form their own bubbles which the government says will allow all years to be in full time education thanks that's a recap our breaking news this hour on the serious incident in glasgow city center 3 people have been stabbed to death in glasgow police say the suspect has been shot dead and that there is no further risk to the public the incident is believed to have taken place in a stairwell of the park in a hotel in the city center. and i'll be back with more news at the top of the hour including all the latest updates on the glasgow stabbings. thanks thanks thanks thanks. nuclear

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