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epstein was a useful idiots of the israeli state polls of all coming up in today's going on to govern the indigenous peoples of the americas have arguably suffered not only genocide of thousands of white settlers but also generations of inequality and poverty now the association of american indian affairs is shot in the loft and avoided as a state department advisor during barack obama's presidency says this is increased native americans is vulnerability to coronavirus something seemingly being swept under the rug in the face of allegations they have being left out of the demographic data shannon a citizen of the truck foundation of oklahoma joins me now via skype from clock still in maryland usa thanks so much on the vote coming and we know that in britain which has a much worse because of their growth of ours official rate than the usa kovi that's the vulnerable how is it to indigenous peoples of the usa thank you for having me it has been devastating in any in country here in the united states unfortunately we don't have all the data we need to truly assess the damage that the coronavirus
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is doing to the native american population there are 574 federally recognized tribes that means there's 574 tribes that the united states has a government to government relationship with and most public health care facilities are not checking the box or understanding often who they are serving when it comes to coronavirus so we don't have all the numbers we do know that the indian health service most of those indian health service locations are within tribal lands and tribal reservations and those numbers are clear there is getting close to 18000 cases a coronavirus out of about 233000 individuals who have been tested but testing. is the amount of testing that is being given
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to indian health service has been very low in fact i've just recently heard. donald trump mention that indian should be happy with what they've gotten so far in fact he sent 250 tests to the indian health service 502500 yes just to be clear this is in the context of some statistics that we've got that in arizona 16 percent of. the coronavirus deaths in arizona are indigenous peoples while there are only 6 was of the population new mexico greater than a 3rd with only 10 percent how many state health departments are actually recording indigenous people's deaths than of actions and we don't know that information we just don't know there hasn't there is not a national consensus or national policy on how native americans
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are counted in various health centers or hospitals so we rely on relationships between local hospitals and medical centers and the tribal governments that reside in close proximity and usually about dr community numbers most indigenous peoples i understand live in new york or los angeles so we don't have anything on the predisposition as a disproportionate outcomes for indigenous people in those urban centers. not too well no and again it is because most urban natives. are reliant on the local l. service and if the local health services aren't maintaining those statistics. and oftentimes those health service workers are looking at what they see and making a unilateral determination on who they are serving so often times they don't even
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consult about race and they market themselves or there's only a box called other and often times we don't even get to count ourselves as a being of history miscategorized they should leave before coronavirus. yeah if you want to get in a talking about 2 to 500 years of history there is absolutely completeness understanding of native americans are how i really meant miscategorized nation aziz by health services but yes i did and i was told trump says he's giving $8000000000.00 to indigenous people it was trumped a lot of bombers i did $21000.00 executive orders stop wishing to toss schools a physical safety it was complemented by navajo nation the vice president myron lizer he signed 3 bill supporting spokane's tribes funding indigenous language recognizing the little shell tribe has only been much better than obama. oh i would
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have to say absolutely not. and i'm happy to go over those those points individually that $8000000000.00 that tribes received from congress out of the care act originally the trump administration did not want any funding going to tribes it all it was congress that made that a $1000000.00 appropriation to try and finish that $8000000.00 corporation was made. leadership in the white house has just been a horrible job and getting it subtribes it's taken 2 months to get any funding to drive when it was supposed to have been done within 30 days there are leader in the
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assistant secretaries office or indian affairs and trumpet administration actually was trying to appropriate funding for. alaska native corporations which are not tribal governments and she happened to be a shareholder of one of those alaska native corporations and her husband is a lobbyist for another one so there's been a lot of controversy around the funding that it's going to try that of the scare the money and even how to trial population are counted by the treasury department has been horrendous and there's a current court case and just. got filed about that well we invite those involved in the alaskan situation to go on and maybe refute any allegations of corruption obviously but is this incompetence or by design resume we
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are not saying the why does once a completely wipe out indigenous peoples as has been attempted by successive generations of white americans. since the trust since trump was. in office since 2016 you have been working to a center right that tribes have environmental legislation and the ability for us to protect our secrete sites and cultural resources he has eliminated leaving water act. and air pollution. legislation that we have particular express right in those left pieces of legislation he has diminished. bears ears and. other national monuments that tribes have worked hard to co-managed and protect from oil and gas industry and other exploitive industries there have been other
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rollbacks manger environmental legislation which has not only proved tribes from having authority to protect their tribal lands in their troubled waters but also the states so it has been this is not just a tribal indigenous problem this is everyone's problem in the united states that these environmental protections are being rolled back what alliances are being made by your members and indigenous peoples around the country being made between them and black lives masses because i presume. there were aware of the talk of honduras quotes of a. new policy of 10 years in jail ie once for removing under jackson statues you would have to explain the history of a 100 jackson the indigenous peoples and the fact that they ought to each eyes were
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likely to be killed by police in the united states right right so andrew jackson a president in the 18 twenty's and thirty's was not our friend in attacks in past the indian removal act all which. removed many tribes that were in the eastern part of the united states to oklahoma indian territory and allow for colonists and others to take over our homelands and it's a historic situation i know you've been talking about tomahawk cruise missiles you want the name change because they're being dropped on yemen the world's worst humanitarian crisis native americans go invisible and in our. our involvement in united states and world history is absolutely ignored so the fact that. we have young men and women there being murdered by
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police officers around indian country going unnoticed is nothing new now we don't want to take anything away from black lives matter in fact we want to add our voices to that. all black and brown people should have their human rights to have police reform that supports. less violence against our people but part of the issue here is that we're not educated in the general public that native americans even exist today the fact that there's 5574 federally recognized tribes throughout the united states who are completely diverse from one another who have lent their own languages their cultures their religious practices and the way in which they interact internally with her own tribal governments and with the united states and
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the states that they reside in all of that is unique in diverse and most of us have no idea about this part of u.s. history and current culture that's a part of what makes america great because elites in power will say you have a vote in november but i understand that it is just peoples of no to residential addresses amongst the communities tell me about the voter id and how it's going to affect indigenous people's voices this november right there have been many states and again it's diverse in many states in north and south dakota there have been laws. where the voter must have a physical address they cannot use up tio box. but many native americans in indian country are very rural and do not have physical address so they are
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unable to vote there are organizations working to protect native american rights to vote across the country and if they can match imagine it different in every state of the united states as far as. those state laws and the bill their ability to assert their rights about you say would make any difference anyway i've never heard joe biden say anything about leather belt ca apparently his life is in danger according to amnesty international from coronaviruses jailed in florida the so-called indigenous a political prisoner who didn't he wasn't free during a bomber when you were advising the obama administration no he wasn't any hasn't been in many presidents of. terms we're hoping that he can get. released in this term
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by president trump in fact congress in particular congresswoman debbie hollen who's from the state of new mexico and is an indigenous hersel has asked for that pardon and having him relief and it isn't a vulnerable population center left from thank you. thank you after the break was the late convicted sex offender and financier jeffrey have seen a useful idiot for the israeli state former israeli spy arriba naturally had links between a paedophile and a british friends all of them all going off about to have going underground.
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we go to work some straight home. banks geysers financial saliva mill they say money to the relatives who planted using this is a central plank support diet gum and other cover my doubts a stop to that. the world is driven by shaped by fun person of.
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the day or thinks. we dare to ask. welcome back on wednesdays really prime minister binyamin netanyahu de facto back to the hilt by president trump's deal of the century is set to push ahead with further illegal antics ations of palestine's occupied west bank but his breast. anthem's britain sells record amounts of arms to israel is the royal connection former israeli spy ari ben menasha who worked for robert maxwell the late disgraced british tabloid daily mirror owner joins me now via skype from montreal in canada arie thanks for coming on i said israeli spy goes israel denies you are a spy despite the u.s. jury verdict that you acted for israel tell me about being a spy and why when you talk about geopolitics you're not fearful more fearful of assassination a living then and then. i wrote
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a book. there. i hope for the best of course it's a book that came out some years ago now geoffrey epstein is dead now guillen maxwell there are reports he's in paris you maintain that it was your employer robert maxwell owner of the daily mirror you say that he was an israeli agent and as was his daughter just not my employer i would like to correct that ok we work through again. and you say that is do it again lane also though works for israel and it was robert maxwell who introduced geoffrey epstein to gillan maxwell way before the 1990 s. as mainstream media is reporting correct. mr epstein was introduced to miss bax well probably sometime and eighty's mr
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maxwell also thought it might. be introducing. a fellow to date is it tried to do it favors her client or. as they say 'd a match ok and that didn't really quite work out i suppose what the most alarming allegations of you've been making are that the entire epstein operation was a honeytrap operation to entrap politicians policy makers celebrities people in the movie i may sickly to become israel's assets correct that it became man basically an intelligence operation to entrap different culture to shoot. tell me about what evidence you have for this at this point this is all i can say that that's what and that's what it was because the
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time because the mainstream media narrative is we don't know about you know in maxwell she denies all wrongdoing and basically epstein was a paedophile and was a successful banker he made lots of money and he was a criminal paedophile and he died in a jail awaiting justice that's the story nothing to do with nothing to do with the israeli military intelligence nothing to do with israel yet they were they were denied that's a real bad story in there went the night but she was kurtz great with this release by robert maxwell of taare and military intelligence and. started to working for them i mean i'm joyce as embassador london would deny that over here obviously prince andrew is a big story because he's supposed to be the queen's favorite son what what do you
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think sandra's are there for in story at this hour a prince andrew was a. black man and it was being used as a useful idiots and it was bringing in some celebrities to get whacked now i can't ask you for your sources but when when things have been written about this. edward barak has been named as part of this operation tell me about whether you think barak would have been aware of these operations well anyone to the right was sir at some point had a military intelligence in this room. and. he apparently was very friendly were in and. you probably were. the problem area with your accusations and allegations are that
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you're not providing any evidence that israel was part of running jeffrey epstein well again again maxwell was work in progress where the epstein was working for maxwell at the time and he was and cheers to maxwell's culture and they were introduced. how how much for evidence i think cannot. give you photos of the working or certainly allegiance this was all written the problem areas that you're making these allegations without any evidence other than circumstantial evidence arguably that is israel is involved that's why. i was asked i'm giving you my take on so what do you think about babson's death lot of people suspicious about it although it was
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ruled a suicide by new york's chief medical examiner despite epstein's brother alleging it was murder i was in that facility exactly in that facility it would almost be in possible to commit suicide there unless here you had an outside now i'm not alleging that black cuba has anything to do at this point do you know a black cube the private israeli intelligence company which is reputedly been hired to intimidate people. chasing down the. epstein story i was not. and the television service at this time i really can't comment or do you think when you heard the news that epstein had apparently committed suicide did you see any echoes of your former colleague the disgraced daily mirror
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proprietor robert maxwell when he died on his boat yeah i certain i said that to a colleague i said 1st maxwell their eyes the way the eyes and now the sky. but no one saying that israel killed their agent robert maxwell that after all you have you said you allege of a maxwell was an israeli agent as well if he has he worked for with a sermon. who knew who to kill roma maxwell well now and then. other times he was in real trouble over. the pension funds the british police were about to enter us. over. on funds from the endless willy's who were terrified that once his arrest. tell
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a story. see what surprises me when you say that there's no evidence you can give me to. suggest even that israel was behind epstein's in tack area it was none other than alex acosta trumps now resigned labor or a secretary who said when he was in charge of the plea deal over epstein he said he belonged to intelligence what do you think he caused america in the past in theirs . is the real. goes back about 10 years ago. it was a very straight and general and still. surprising for him and was accused of abusing young girls it was a very surprising. so i suppose some of the was how pick somebody was
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behind him help and get out of. real trouble but when trump's former labor secretary acosta says he belonged to intelligence you think he means israeli intelligence not u.s. intelligence correct i think he imagines fairly 2 starts right here allegations about involvement in a blackmail plot i mean do you think that ironically the rape survivor ravage in iraq joe a friend signed epstein's delft death warrant when she filed suit i believe i believe that's what made her member chill him. in this lawsuit. or it would have been a lot of revelations and everyone from. the it's easy you run a big lobbying firm now dickens and madson the company is in the news at the moment
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because of what's happening in libya what do you know of general half star who's a fortunes rise and wane depending on the battle of in libya where of course britain bombed i believe that. a straight government of. shit. gets rid of them and try to form a transitional government with some elements of tripoli not so dattch he had a former british ambassador to libya told us. things were not going swimmingly but the un recognized government in libya is the one to support and that's the one that will win in the end you don't think so i don't think so i don't think so but i think there has to be a government. a compromise government between the 2 sides because they're both pretty powerful elements in libya and that
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general has really has to go and so those risks are so because they're both very. very stubborn all they care about it all they care about is themselves being the talk you don't think general half there is still a cia asset but i know i don't think he is or if he was in the past and i don't think he is right now what my understanding was that he was being helped by various countries and. he's just to start where americans are to deal with any news on safeguard afy some say he could unite libya i just all. because of his name. outside their world except them like him because
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of his name and he has i.c.c. charges against them and then inside libya there say we were we have been fighting for 9 years you will go back to the same way we started to do what it just finally trump wants to sanction anyone doing business with the i.c.c. trump seems to be in favor of these really haneke say sions planned this week what do you think the palestinians reaction to further an extension of the west bank will. i know both our spooner lampson but. this is an exchange is making it more up and and i asked not the rest of the world and the if i were that is who always said as or i genuinely called for a 2 state solution as. accident as outlined in the us
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follow agreements 30 years ago when they should honor exact agreement. i am a national thank you. that's it for the show will be back on wednesday on the 18 year anniversary of the establishment of the i.c.c. now sanctioned by the us president told trump for daring to open an investigation to u.s. war crimes in afghanistan until then push on to join the underground a huge upset about instagram twitter and facebook. ah no team no crowd. no shots no. action just belts because. you know well track no strong. points your thirst for action.
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what is the meaning in worth of history why are there are those so determined to destroy cultural artifacts and rewrite history and sell their understanding of history a true and dispassionate understanding of history is really about 2 things reverence and a warning the culture side we are witnessing rejects for 5 years. secret prisons are not usually what comes to mind when thinking about europe however he even the most prosperous can be deceived within this 0 zone there were too few houses were allegedly prison was located and only cia people had access to the story for investigators show how they uncovered the darkest dealings of the secret services but i mean one of. the great ignore. doctor nonsense. he see maybe
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a sore knee yes or no for. crying for justice on oxy. welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is r.t. u.k. . the u.k. city of leicester could face a local lockdown by central government amid a surge in the number of coronavirus cases that the met has hit out at the lack of communication and question whether westminster has the power to do it are we joined by one of the city's public lords. the statistics watchdog reveals that male care workers are twice as likely to die from the virus than the rest of the adult population i'll be talking to the watchdogs for the head of health analysis. to you might say that it's you have not been forgotten i have been forgotten it's been forgotten we will not let you go on and i've been left behind from our so.
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small business owners say the u.k. chancellor has reneged on promise is that the sector will not be forgotten during the coronavirus pandemic we hear from the campaign organizer and i'll be talking to a business owner. the u.k. government couldn't force a 2 week lot down in the city of leicester after a surge in the number of corona virus cases but the mayor of leicester says he hasn't been shown the evidence to back it up dismissing the latest report as hastily cobbled together before and this r.t. u.k. shut it ever strategy to has been either shut it so the government might impose local lock downs then absolutely unless it could be the 1st part of the united kingdom to enter into this local lockdown within days following a resurgence of the infection numbers over in the midland city what it means is that the city could stay in a lockdown for additional 2 weeks despite the rest of england going and easing
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their lockdown measures as of july the 4th this week. and with the openings of pubs bars and restaurants with of course the social distancing rule of 2 meters being reduced as well now it comes as the city has recorded 866 corona virus outbreaks over the last 2 weeks since the 1st 2 weeks of june up until the 23rd of june and that actually equates for 5 percent of the u.k. wide cases so quite a heavy spike in that area now as part of the tactics to try and reduce the our numbers x. experts have been drafted in to the area to try and assess the hotspots and see and get to the bottom of where these flare ups have been and what we can see is that 5 schools in the area have closed off the opening in early june that's 2 to these outbreaks according to the reports there's also been an outbreak at a supermarket in leicester as well as of a large sandwich production factory but also we have seen that there are fears
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a virus is spreading through the cities large asian community particularly in situations where people are living in multi-generational homes meanwhile then the mayor of leicester he doesn't agree with this is sussman in fact he's incredibly angry and frustrated with the government because a meeting with himself his. experts as well as the government was supposed to happen this morning instead he received an email from the government in the early hours of the morning counseling that meeting and saying and suggesting just recommending that the city goes into an additional 2 week lockdown period and that e-mail was not very well received. i'm saying we need to be convinced that there is a case for doing that 1st of all that there is something special about the spread of the virus in leicester we've had no evidence to the governments of that and that if that's there was to remain restricted for longer than the rest of england that that would actually make
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a difference to something and they've made neither the case that there is something that needs to be done and given any explanation as to why this is the right thing to do the report that we've had from them readily acknowledges right at the outset that in fact the results are indeed higher in leicester but that's because they've been doing more testing in leicester. now this is what the government says as a result of the government's test and tracing program where you can identify an outbreak and then move to do something about it so this seems to be the case in leicester but it also gives us an indication an idea of where the government is out in terms of looking at a u.k. wide approach if and when it sees other local outbreaks across the country and the prime minister barak's johnson says it's all because of the corona virus is still out there across the u.k. . we are concerned about leicester we're concerned about any local break. and i want to stress to people that you know we are not out of the woods yet
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it's very important you know we're making these these cautious calibrated steps. as much of hospitality as we can on on july the 4th they've been as much of the economy as we can so we need to have local lock downs and local. whack a mole strategies where that's necessary it's worked in places like west in superman or where we've had outbreaks in in g.p. surgeries in in london. and that's the same approach it will bring to bear in leicester as well. now the health secretary not hancock will be addressing the house of commons to try and explain how the government may hondo other local outbreaks but what's happening in that step of what could happen and that's that is setting and dick a test of the government's approach looking elsewhere if they see other spikes in the next few months. claudia ever sadly thank you very much indeed. well i'm not
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joined by a pub landlord from leicester that's alex hilton alex thank you very much for joining us on what could another 2 weeks of looking down mean for your pub. things other than a guy who says we're still wasting away on tenterhooks to try and find out what is we're supposed to dig up on the last 7 days preparing all poll showing what it was called men trying to shape this possible shop a bit on training courses with. a system where we have a stock costs and we've tried to make the most of the big on the outside space we. don't know what the future holds because all these were missed school. left is about it's going to last well that's very disappointing for us because we we love all hope we're really excited to get close to this bucket but we don't want to get close to miss it it's not going to be safe to do so if the government decides that it is right less than he's going to some extent we will absolutely just pull the station because he wants people close to the safe just like any good pope would but we need we're not sure they stop and say they've become
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a problem for it or we could be saying a local lockdowns across the country that could be that surely better than a nationwide shutdown isn't it. oh no i'm not an expert i'm just. a poke i wish i was a scientist or adult. the way i say i know i've got friends who live in leicester that work in dalby or work in knoxville. so it's already well into closing culture restaurants and less that well i'm not sure 'd if people often trucking outside the city and how that would work i think boris johnson used the expression whack a mole mind somebody going whack a mole is the most but. how effective the tool instruction is and all i know 'd is that where the pulp away from our mouth or what i want next step is so we can get all business alive and we can one day get so provoking the customers on one side the happy and satisfied most for he said i think is that onyx if they do have a nickel shut down bacon that closed down just a few businesses not all businesses so at least some people can can carry on his
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normal contract. yes because it is this boss of the country that inveterate socialist and said i know the thing from what i've read places like scotland for example of very few cases so there's no reason that you know the response controversial and delightful you know the possible contributor as has been already took 3 months. in office this rates have gone down all bills have been going down and we had to throw away the stalls. are almost 3000 unsworth. which i can tell you how hop rated not just emotionally goals are financially and we're not sure how people are in ready for this weekend so we're not sure. which i really really don't want state and i'm pleased though the pulse of the tree at the hope that they. are able to have good weekends and sales and. a bumbling get money into an industry and the pub industry is very important in this country it's one of those on the right it's it's incredibly heavily talked hopes and is one of the last
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things that we actually make in this country anymore and we're very good at it. the government respects the book industry in the hot industry and is able to fold whatever the next couple weeks and beyond house it still doesn't tell you actually ready to go sort of right now what other measures happy taken to sort of get everything ready. so i mean we haven't ferentz like been forced out today so we have bought the bear in a sense of safety and we're going to have stuff in math and by this assuming that we open this weekend all the guys look at why masks and vices to stop every single cycle of the table service in the fall every cycle will have confidence that if the ticket number stuff is on site just the white tables in the 2nd post release the poll and we've limited the number of people allowed to use the latest read on the chance that one sign we try to maximize the outside area following government guidelines on sundays there are people spaced out such distance on titles in the
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canal which is much better the virus and shook it for a while. anything we can tell you we've been is trying to pull as much effort as we can following the group and trying to go out one step further because we want people to be safe we want people to feel safe or know that we chatted a wouldn't dream of ever in a boat that people didn't feel complete didn't feel safe and it would break my heart if any of all regulars go ill because we were big callus so we want to people safe well what if i were. a whole do everything we can if you all it's like been in a show this is actually and look the place to be and find an exit very briefly if you wouldn't mind how has it affected your stuff have you had to make anybody off. fortunately not been so far off got really hard working saying i'm sorry look out it's a little bit not months ago and i. just bought it which they put i think. the whole scene of that mitch brett. had a role if you're watching
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a really great show i feel like i'm back on that they want to compare all the regulars you drink share their friends and like well you know they want to be as well. you know that they're being looked after. it's all the same as working and having the right to all that i think accident thank you very much for joining us thank you has been a pleasure. well those working in the u.k. says social class system a far more likely to die from cave 19 than the rest of the adult population that's according to a report by the office of national statistics which said the sector was one of the most at risk. well you know it has found that men working in care homes or has home care as were 2 and a half times more likely to die from the virus compared to the average working male while the covert mortality rate for women working in the sector was twice that of other women the government has been criticized for the lack of personal protective equipment provided to the care system and also for the decision to release elderly residents from hospital back into care homes in the early stages of the pandemic
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the government claims this was entirely done on medical advice or meanwhile it's estimated that 410000 people are living in adult care in the u.k. in may health secretary matt hancock said the government has thrown a protective ring around the sector but data comparing care home deaths in europe puts the u.k. as the 2nd worst performing in protecting residents from the virus around of the 3rd of the u.k.'s known coded fatalities have been in care homes accounting for over 5 percent of residents that's 13 times higher than in germany which recorded 3 and a half 1000 deaths despite having a care home population twice the size of the u.k.'s figures from neighboring island found that over 3 percent of care home residents have died from the disease when in belgium the figure is just below 5 percent and to the west before me if spain was known coper deaths accounting for 6 point one percent of residents were defending its record the u.k.'s department of health said its efforts had resulted in the
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majority of care homes not experiencing an outbreak. we have been doing everything we can to ensure care home residents and staff are protected during this unprecedented global pandemic every stage of our response has been guided by the latest scientific advice they think lutes offering whole care home testing and providing additional funding for local services which has resulted in almost 60 percent of our care homes not having an outbreak a toll. or to discuss the ins findings are now joined by the former head of health and houses at the office for national statistics that jamie jenkins jamie thank you for joining us these statistics are shocking for social care workers apparently proof that the government didn't protect them. well yeah there's 2 kind of key aspects you need to consider when you look at the occupational risk to the code one is the exposure to the virus so we know a lot of care homes the virus kind of. some people were discharged from hospital and and the virus is kind of circulating and there was a lack of testing going on in care homes in particular the very start of the of the
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pandemic and another 2nd important factor as well is the social economic background of the people who are in these jobs as well so we also know for example that people who are in love pay jobs tend to have poor kind of health conditions as well and nothing can lead to produce more risk of dying from covert search so the there are a number of different factors you consider such as the exposure of the virus in say the individuals back rooms as well but it does also seem to be consistently men at risk doesn't it. yeah well we are seeing men at risk than women just generally for from code as well and that's not just in the case that's across the hul of the world and there's other things that you need to consider as well in terms of these jobs that people are there and we also know that for example some of the occupational think the office for national statistics highlighted that where people were more likely to die from code than say other occupations there was a higher proportion of black and ethnic minorities were going in those roles as well and we've seen data suggest in a more risk as well so i think what we have seen though since the start of the
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pandemic is that there's been increasing protections not to say for him in the case set that with more testing and p.b. becoming available but women we know from the day that i want to publish as well that we saw an elevated risk for people working in just retail as well as care homes than what we've seen over the last few months is that there's been increasing protections being put in place in retail for example such as as protective screens but we do know the case start the opening up over the last few weeks so what we see any increase in deaths from that we have to keep an eye out for as well and also taking other reasons behind as well jamie i mean you talked about ethnicity it'll save health conditions underlying health conditions what about viruses overload and also have a lack of people in the beginning as well. well that would definitely be a key part of it and jobs where there's lots of close proximity between individuals are going to have a virus so for example take office jobs a lot of people have been working from home they haven't been mixing with other people in the general population so there are much lower risk of catching the virus that what we are seeing at the moment though not just in new caber across the world
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but it particularly is a lot of local outbreaks within the case across meat factories and passim to be kind of causing a lot of these local outbreaks that causing kind of problems for local authorities and from the government for example and the working conditions in these meat factories a kind of rife with cold conditions people working quite closely together and mass actually driving some very local infection rates and then if those people are catching in the meat factories that going out into the wider community in part on it does seem that occupations can have a big impact in terms of the spread of this virus sadistically compared to other countries the u.k. is death rate in care homes those living in care homes is also sky high as well isn't it well yeah but the u.k. is performed pretty poorly with regard to the rest of the world with a covert kind of pandemic wave 'd one of the kind of beyond spain with one of the worst in the world that in terms of the number of access deaths in the country and i've been calculating my own total each day because the government only predicts m.-o. or gives estimates of them or even have died from kobe having tested positive for
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it but i think we closely getting toward 70000 people now in the case that's kind of died from a covert 19 but also be about how other countries measure death as well or about reliability of data yes well that's one of the reasons why you should use access death so one thing that excess deaths does it just looks at how many deaths are there over and above the average in the population for the time of year so you don't have to worry in terms of if different countries are classifying destined for only you all of it each individual country and their own you have a look at the average deaths and then you calculate how many deaths above the average level of you are at at the moment and if you do that kind of metric the u.k. does come up as one of the worst in the world and in particular with spain definitely to the worst countries in the world very statistics there jamie thank you thank you for talking to us. and still to come this hour. small business owners say the chancellor has broken promises to protect the jury in the code 19 conduct we hear from the campaign organizer but i'll be talking to
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a business owner. we go to work for you straight hold. on i'll show for seemed wrong when all rolls just don't hold. the world to get to shape out disdained to come get educated and in gains from it equals
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betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground means. welcome back small business owners say the u.k. chancellor has remained on promises that the sector will not be forgotten during the coronavirus pandemic really soon out came that 95 percent of self employed people would be supported but the remaining 5 percent claim it's unfair that they've slipped through the gaps. to you i say that it's you have not been forgotten i have been forgotten i've been forgotten we will not let you go on and
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i've been left behind to fend for myself to many things alone we all stand together together i am a small business owner together we have a virus point 8000000 people 3 car. well government bailouts have been paying 80 percent of them employed and self employed workers on incomes of up to $2500.00 pounds a month for 3 months but those who set themselves up as companies and take an income to dividends are not covered and are often unable to access government business grants dividends do attract a lower tax rate than wages for the founder of the forgotten counterpane says it's not that simple to get on with the missionary i understood that there were some complications that meant that you know including limited company directors might be more complicated and they were looking for the fastest route from a need to be to provide support. but you know we're over 3 months in now and i think they could have easily put something in place to support us realistically
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though being treating us in the x e i s s and the self-employed incomes post-game but it's just really if there's political will to do that i guess all the reasons that a business owner might take a dividend which is a sort of key point at issue here rather than pay themselves a salary i think predominantly from the feedback of our thousands of members that we speak to every day it's about agility it's about the ability to ensure that their staff are paid 1st and foremost above and beyond themselves because it's about him crazy employment and protecting you know those that are and seasonality or income you know they don't have a flat income every month. it goes up and down and therefore the activity of being able to pay yourself in line with your profits is answer now. well the government says dividends aren't included in the support package because
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it's not possible to prove whether they're taken instead of wages or as a return on capital a part of an investment the rules also exclude those who have recently switched to full time self employment those who earn over $50000.00 pounds a year and those who make less than 50 percent of their earnings from self employment there are many amongst our group who have received no support so that it may be that they don't have commercial premises it may be that they're on a thorough it may be that they run their payroll annually i knew. that was the r.t.i. submission set up in the 1900 march that even if they have a significant salary or p a y e they are unable to claim anything on their part from joining because there are mission was off to the council and what's the worst case scenario the worst case situation situation that you've heard of. in all honesty we've
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had suicides. we've had people crowd funding to feed their children we've had insolvencies. i'm not speaking about my own business create i mean within our group of supporters. people have laid off large numbers of staff people intend to announce large numbers of star impacts who are not the fellow i knew by the small business owners here it's the 2000000 emitting companies and the 7 and a half 1000000 people that they employ and it's the supply chain of the people that they supply or who are on this on are joined by the owner of a building and maintenance company joe stevens thank you for joining us how has the experience been for you. it's been really tough. at the beginning we were really concerned mainly for our staff i felt that we're going to be ok one way or another but we do employ people who then hugely relieved when we heard from the chancellor that he was going to support everybody and absolutely devastated when we realized
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that didn't include us but the government has offered an unprecedented support package to those affected by the pandemic is it inevitable then that some people are going to fall through the cracks i think to use the word cracks or just something tiny to 3000000 people have been excluded from these schemes which actually to me is more catherine and crack and it can you understand though why diffidence in this particular issue have been excluded. no i can't really i think there are ways and they've been suggested by mouse tried the treasury committee to actually deal without that problem and yeah no i don't think i do understand that at all but do you feel that the government will offer you support at some point i hope so i can't see any reason that they were homes as it has been a treasury committee reports recently put forth the government's my hope that they will listen to that and that they will love for the guidelines which means they will get about data of support for the whole of our income in line with other you
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know other of the support schemes such as the s e r s s a joke and usually more detail about that what is it that you would like to see the government doing. would like them to basically listen to what a mouse tried to set and office fair an equal backdated support for the whole of our income that's what the treasury committee has recommended that they do and that's what i would like to see happen only if it does happen it's going to able us to continue to. help with the economic recovery and continue to employ the 7000000 people that limited companies do employ and in terms of yourself will you be able to reopen. we're actually really fortunate in april we had a 75 percent drop in income and turnover which is actually an enormous impact on that we've had fellow staff and then some other small forgot the limited companies i never actually not had any turnover whatsoever. code a little bit about by being out to do external work but my main concern going
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forward isn't so much the next couple of months it's the autumn when the phone i see men's and also when i work tends to. move more internally in our customers aren't necessarily going to want to sit inside their houses and that's that's the point market we're going to see not just in mind astray but within many industries an awful lot more redundancies and higher levels of unemployment if we don't see the support that we need and it just gave us thank you very much indeed for coming on and talking to us that you haven't met thank you. and i'll be back with more news at the top of the amps here again saying.
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54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on i'll show you what's the reason for any type of enhanced u.s. military presence in this area russia. what is it suddenly about the south china sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india's. as no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have nuclear weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so that's why we're going to drill down on the story for you today right here on the news with where you know as we always like to say we do believe. by golly it's time to do news again.
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hello and welcome to cross up we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle what is the meaning in worth of history why are there are those so determined to destroy cultural artifacts and rewrite history and so their understanding of history a true in just bashing of understanding of history is really about 2 things reverend in a war and the culture side we are witnessing rejects both. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest under i me me good on you in moscow is a professor at the moscow state institute of international relations and in oslo we have learned eason is an associate professor at the university of south eastern norway as well as russia's geo and.

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