liking coronavirus numbers claims of russian bounties against u.s. troops and or races to tweet from the president 2 men with very different perspectives joining me for reaction 1st former republican congressman bob barr and then retired army general russel honore a on this addition to. the politicking i'm larry king spygate in coronavirus numbers a bombshell claim about russian bounties against american troops and a shocking presidential retreat including a white power chant plus ongoing protests about race and policing will leave all of the discussion with form of congress whom bob barr of georgia one time libertarian presidential candidate he's also the president and c.e.o. of the lauren force one education foundation and he joins me from georgia but the

president acts like it's not there the coronavirus numbers are terrible. i think larry the way i look at this and i'm not a doctor i'm not a health care professional i look at most of these public issues through the lens of commonsense and history and i suspect that this thing is going to go up and down now it will cease fire alleys and spikes and valleys for some time so you know i don't think that it's a major crisis that we see some of these numbers going back up we'll probably see him go back down and maybe go back up again until things settle down for the year though you were an analyst for the cia what's your reaction to reports that russia has offered bounties to delegate channeling forces for killing coalition forces and includes american troops. if something's fishy in this larry it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me 1st of all i have not seen any information that the

intelligence if it is accurate intelligence has been verified so i think it's has been released for political purposes and is being used improperly but even if it is accurate intelligence is really just doesn't make any sense why would russia become involved in trying to go after u.s. troops indirectly when the u.s. under the trumpet ministration is taking steps to extricate itself from afghanistan if it doesn't ring true larry well who could explain putin's. well i guess. we do have some folks at the at the cia where i used to work years ago who are expert in trying to figure out what goes on inside the kremlin and inside the you know the minds of these former k.g.b. officials. but it just doesn't make sense from russia

standpoint to do something like this and the timing doesn't fit and you know you get reports back when i was with the agency years ago you get all sorts of raw intelligence reports but you know every time you get a report even if it is somewhat alarmist you don't go running to the president and you don't go running to the congress you wait until you can verify it one way or the other and then you notify the officials. you're the president and c.e.o. of the law enforcement education foundation it's been over 4 weeks since the killing of george floyd in minneapolis an incident that has sparked protests across the country how do you see this playing out long term. long term by long term i guess nowadays that means simply between now and the election i suppose. i don't i don't like the way it's been playing out so far because bear to me larry is

a lot of room to institute some meaningful reforms with policing across the country in terms of better training more appropriate funding and priorities for our local law enforcement and it just does not seem to be getting done either in the congress or at the local level and that's a shame because we ought to take the opportunity of the tragedy of the jury floor in murder to take a real positive look at mont foresman in terms of making some needed reforms. the president has described racial justice and police reform demonstrators us terrorists bugs anak as agitators looters and lowlifes do you think you ought to temper his language a little. certainly when you look at some of what's going on in the last several weeks larry there are violent elements there are there are of those who have used

the excuse of the george florey murder to engage in arson looting and burning. and that's unfortunate but by the same token i do think that there is a lot more room than either the democrats or other republicans in the congress are willing to accept in terms of some meaningful reform and i'm you know i'm sorry that that really seems to be getting lost in washington these days what don't you like the democrat the house proposal police reform if it gets too much in the weeds larry when when you look at some of the details in the house bill that relate to for example use of force. there there is a laundry list of steps that a law enforcement officer would have to go through before initiating force and it

would depend in terms of use of lethal force there would be a whole mechanism for after the fact objective review as opposed to looking at the the view the reasonably reasonable view of the officer on the scene which is really what's critical and the of the house bill it gets so detail larry that it would make a violation of a person's civil rights if an officer exerts any and i have a certain size the word any because that's in the in the legislation any for any pressure on a person's throat or neck i mean that that is simply a way to detail how an impractical. how a hottie and deal with the word reasonable one police officer good seem reasonable one way and one can see it another right. that certainly is true but over the

years the standard that that the courts have applied and have instructed juries have actually worked out fairly well i think if you go back and you look at the use of deadly force cases that have come up over the years i think juries and judges most times the vast majority of cases get it right by looking at whether the officer on the ground at the time had a reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or death to himself or herself and other persons if they did not use deadly force. sang well we're going to throw that standard out and we're going to have have a standard where i some officer who was not there looks at it after the fact with 2020 hindsight i think is terribly unfair to the officers on the ground. his surprise the reason associated press poll shows 29 percent of americans say the

u.s. criminal justice system needs a complete overhaul 40 percent say it needs major changes is that does that figure surprise you. and in a sense it does because our criminal justice system is not broken fundamentally it doesn't surprise me from the standpoint that because there has been such tremendous publicized the about our criminal justice system recently that you know a lot of people would believe that simply because they keep hearing it over and over and over again our criminal justice system by and large has worked very well is it perfect no but there is no perfect system are there are some changes that could be made with regard to policing particularly i think in the area of far better training and leadership absolutely there are but as a former u.s.

attorney what are your thoughts of the recent to molton southern district of new york the ousting of u.s. attorney geoffrey berman a trump appointee and the naming of j. clay who's currently the head of the securities and exchange commission didn't they bomb go at it could've been handled much better although in today's environment where everything that the administration does is going to be looked at by many in the media in the worst possible light i'm not sure they can you know do anything without being criticized but i do think it could have been handled better the timing of it and how the public the public word was put out i think it could've been handled lot better but ultimately of course any u.s. attorney particularly an acting u.s. attorney in which mr berman wise serves at the pleasure of the president and if the president through the attorney general asks the person to step aside they really

ought to merely have no choice but to do so you have it in the middle of an apparent investigation of trump's friends. doesn't paint a pretty picture does it. well mike i say the timing of the timing could have been a lot better if in fact the administration had a significant or serious problem with the acting u.s. attorney they should have made that known a long time ago and not waited until you know in this case several months before an election with those sort of sensitive cases pending so. i agree with you a good time the timing was not very bright you know more than 1000 x. justice department officials signed a pup with letter calling on william baudot resign more recently more than 1200 acts d.o.j. officials called for an internal investigation into bars roll in the clearing a protest is from the at square how do you regard that. i think it's an

overreaction i have my own views on what happened with my fired square i'm not sure really young understood the point to it in the 1st place but you know simply because the attorney general does something that a group of people even lawyers disagree with does not mean that we ought to go rush to either have them removed from office or impeach them we're going to have him like ssion in just a few months they'll be plenty of time to make those kind of adjustments later on but i think it's an overreaction larry a surprise that biden's poll numbers. in a sense i am because he really hasn't done anything i mean he's been reclusive in his in his home basically what the numbers tell me you know whether in

terms of trumps numbers being very poor or biden's numbers being actually fairly solid is that this is going to be a clearly a referendum on the president and right now at things don't look terribly rosy for the president's reelection bob always good having you with us thank you so much my pleasure larry more politicking right after this. because no team no crowd. no shots. actually dealt. a winner well struck no it's one. point sure thirst for action.

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death. or a made in the shallowness. welcome back to politicking we now well retired army general russel honore a joins us from where i object general where are you located. louisiana baton rouge louisiana he played a crucial role speaking of louisiana in post katrina relief efforts and he's been critical of the trumpet ministrations response to the pandemic he joins us from louisiana what do you make of these reports about the russians paying a bounty to kill american soldiers in afghanistan. a very discouraging but to be expected from the russians will do is lawyers if you go to impose their will. they will also use information

operations to exploit this to cause dissent in the american people so they were uses a soft power and apparently made of use of this direct power by giving money to the taliban they kill us so does this. one it the word come out about it will deny it like you know it will. blow it up in the press and in the media or social media because dissent inside the united states so it's that this ring and acts both ways lair. former congressman bob barr was with us and he tended to not believe the reports because they were to him with no sense for the russians to do anything like this what he like as a brother. it doesn't make sense but under they had this information misinformation remember their job in the russian intelligence agencies because dissent inside the american government i too would like not to believe it but the teller's disproven

that this time i think you've got to go to the fact that they have done it we all remember how strong you are with katrina what do you think of how we're dealing with call the 19 well i think we you know in every war you got to have priorities. we were saying the right thing that we want to save people's lives but we confuse that with one note the economy too early and we put of political message ahead of public health is start an american people and those who have done it successfully lie new york in others who put public help in front of sustaining the economy when economy was close we're still at 70 percent of it operate in most places but this move to i think we rush to figure. but not allowing the messages of public health keeping things locked down making folks

aware to mares and i'm saying make it because it should be a no mass no hitter we send out and maybe your knowledge is trump won't wear masks the vice president will merom as then he doesn't wear a mask the president doesn't talk about called the 19 anymore. when i learn to seems like a loss well when you look at the number of people were losing every day he. may need a couple weeks of over a 1000 they i think last week were over 300 a day if an enemy force came to america during that we'd be a full hour about morale war and this bar assist treatments that we but we've got to fight it with the tunes of public health and that has to be done we were going to have to give up in some case adjust our culture to be able to suppress this virus and we need you more testing not less testing and this whole.

bumper sticker that the white house have the more tests you do you do more you have my garden where you get who planted that in the white house greenock sound like suburban or gritty was what what is new york new jersey in connecticut done right are they close it down. they kept all the non-essential businesses close are only keeping the supply chain open so to give food an essential medical supplies and they went big no medical. it brought it 30000 medical workers into new york plus the several 1000 the military there the take care to people may want big but they have to go big you talk about a sickness a polity of about 8000000 or less more than most of the states on average you

support this twice the population state. and it went big and it did it right you know they disposed primarily with one voice those 3 states and that's helped them a lot general you're a member of a growing list of current and former military leaders who criticized trump's response to racial justice demonstrations some of your problems with how the president has handled it or not handled it well he's gonna look the other way and it could have been a lot more decisive in united the country i think there's a majority of the population who the polls that i've seen on the topic of people have come to. understand the majority. in america to regard to race in america to white people in america it's come to fruition that he descended done right and we could do this and now things that we've done in the past we need to

correct but he's never made that step to said we've got to fix some of this all my watch is never knowledge did do you think he understands and respects the values and missions of the u.s. military. i think he uses other toy. he tries as usual as a political lynch remote and as a one liner it is speech to pray that we have no bullets or need took office that's not quite right did he put all the money into the military but on the other hand he took 3000000000 out to go build the fence wall which last week a judge declared was illegal when he took that money out of military or it start building houses for troops is stop building headquarters for troops is start repairing hospitals for troops so one hand removed that money which military can i

commit to go to a border wall it stop military construction the very people he attempts in his speeches to put at the top of the pedestal in houses they use them as a political part and $100.00. is a military veteran is it uncomfortable for you to speak against the commander in chief i've never done that before my life. i was in korea as a company commander when president nixon resigned and i thought the world was coming to him and it didn't that would happen in america and here we are low and behold. another crazy act of if you could sis and see everybody respect at office of what that means or the most powerful man in the world i do wish he would respect that and try to live up to what is

expected of people in that office but he continues out record entrepreneur as opposed to a statesman what do you make 'd of the use of military to curb domesticity riots new bring in the military and do a local situation that is a. using the national guard that's one of the purposes of one under the provisions of the governess that's the way that it should be done with a couple exceptions we saw president kennedy and eyes now are mobilizing national guard to integrate schools which was a federal law that was being played and it's done been done before and we saw the use of federal troops at nearly when the governor of california in the mail or said tools as for federal troops to come. break pieces city of early after the early rise but that is

a selective too that should not be used very often and it should not be used as a threat on the people the president took it to another level well just send federal troops in also federal troops there with him and whole you could look like the war avid fund with this you know as opposed to regret it really having to do this he was enthusiastic about what we do it and that's the impression i got sir james carville the raging cajun i said the other day that he's thought they share a narrow military base after you you should be honored to have a little that was purely in jest. while i appreciate the honor from a good friend that was clearly a just a bunch of midan much more worthy than our many of them didn't make it back from battle many and in multiple tours it did now there are many more worthy and in our

trusty what do you make of it what do you make of the statues to chill asian. i think some of should go away and i do think the naming of do terrorists alicia not to get better generals and colonels should definitely go away. but i take pause and i just beg to disagree with some of the movement to. take on the founding fathers and i could even give andrew jackson a pass he did turtle case to the native people but he was a president and in a way he tried to unify the country but the native people paid dearly for that thousands and thousands of but i could be on the fence with them but the founding fathers i think it was what it was and they get certifies a lot in not think we need to give them a pass washington. and thomas jefferson general in general

i up domestic or pessimistic about where this country is going i'm outs of macy's help as we've got a resilient country and most people in any given day are going about their business larry thank god is it was that needed service semi-retired to sit around and watch the news all day that's really a lot of hell but to the average american they just want to raise their families the limit now is the rar says the pandemic is here this had it not been for the pandemic americans would be doing what they know we do in the summer out having fun and on the 3rd of november above 50 percent i would go vote every lucky think they're going to defeat the president in november. big with dependent in the state of the economy and some of the behaviors that a president i think he'll be a one term president. you know i'm not

a political expert i mean look at the name of your show i'm sure you have. got to go and be the lot more than i do but i think in our current i hope to be a 1st a one term president if that's not that's not a 2nd place job to have been a one term president that's a pretty tough job the year the money and he worked his butt off the women but i think you could be in a $1.00 term president might be the best for the future generations of this country . in general you're always on the point you never miss your saying what you think thanks for being with us you have a good day and be safe you too and thank you audience for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at kings things and don't forget to use the politicking hash tag and that's all there there's additional politicking.

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