a low end welcome across town where all things are considered on puter labelle the past 3 presidential election cycles demonstrate voters are against foreign wars and for a nation building nonetheless both remain high priority for the ruling elite why is this our voters being denied a say in foreign policy and exactly why should u.s.

and allied forces day in afghanistan. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest ray mcgovern in raleigh he's a former cia analyst and presidential briefer and in lansing we have steve gerber he is the host of this earth are joining us now cause and effect that means you can jump an economy wow and i was ok let me go to you 1st here are mike's discussed a lot in my i have composed a lot of questions of mind reduction but let's start with out a list and it speaks only so i can understand in our viewers going to spend why does the united states remain in afghanistan after the president of the united states running on a campaign a campaign trying to get out of afghanistan we're almost 4 years later we're still there so why are we still there if you will obama was going to get out of

afghanistan as well remember it was a dumb war. well look the answer short answer is that they can't they're not in control. no presidents have to do what we call the national security state or deep state requires and if you look at a map you'll see that afghanistan is very strategically located by close to china quite close to kashmir to stay with us all kinds of gas and oil prices so it's a matter for the military and the people who she is vanished and making sure that we can police the world those people that are in charge it's very. very clear now that even of president morsi get out of a place like afghanistan he can the height of hypocrisy of course if he was the a story that the new york times highlighted for the last week that russia's were hoping by which a future for afghan people killing u.s. soldiers. there was no evidence for that and then the new york times and you know

giving hypocrisy a bad name came out with a major editorial say don't let this stuff withdraw from afghanistan after they did everything they could to fit in as the mouth of the state. and then what does this tell us is that trump is too weak or the deep state is too strong i mean what is the you know what is the calculation here because if the president of the united states can. command the military to come up with plans withdrawal and then he's not in control of his home holocene that's pure and simple go ahead. in fairness this president has avoided. new wars for united states yet iran or syria or in other places and so i think that he's had an effect of foreign policy i think that's quite fair to say that the american public is weary of war and for new interventions into foreign countries afghanistan has been a long and painful fight it's been

a cost of treasure and of blood for the americans and i think at this present recognize that but i agree that it's an entanglement that's not easily track. from but if you look at the refusal to follow the. guidelines or the advice of john bolton for example who clearly want to minute ventured into iraq and this president said we're not doing that i'm not going to go bomb and kill 200 arabian citizens for a drone i think that's pretty strong leadership from the president on bad front and let's be honest if you go back to richard nixon the democrats in the new york times i just heard mention here have said since richard nixon nixon's going to take america in the world who are history reagan will take us into world war 3 trump will take us into what was there this hysteria never ends it's always the same the democrats are never tell us to world war 3 and it's often the democrats who lead us into war whether it's vietnam or other wars we've been in other entanglements so i think the president shown from a strong leadership and stuck to his promises of not entering america in

a new foreign wars i think that's a strong positive i mean seed money and why doesn't he just start firing people if you're not going to get what i want you're fired next in line you doing a lot of that you're hired to ok no i'm very serious about this because the american people do in the last 3 presidential elections voted on an anti-war plank ok and republican or democrat didn't come through so ray i mean what does that tell us is that this is a separate power on to its own because it took for me it's once huge grift i mean human you mentioned geopolitical situation and i can buy into that ok and for me it's a great ok it's billions of dollars and everyone gets paid and nothing is results and we still you lose soldiers and and we actually kind of need the money these days right we sure do need the money these days you know it's what president eisenhower of called the military industrial complex what does he vault into the

senate stays more than a half century ago is what i call the mickey i'm at now ok the military industrial congressional intelligence media macadamia think tank complex make a mad. remember it remind it rhymes with mickey mouse ok now it's big and it hit rate is one element that's not there it's the voter that i guess the voter isn't part of it right here yeah the voter isn't part of this and when i said media like all taps the media is diligent for a less that's why americans believe all this stuff they believe people like. the russian expert named james clapper head of the national tells us you know what you say said the russians are almost should medically driven co-opt to just see. whatever you know it's said it's in their genes and this is said historical

experience will you know this is the head of national intelligence obama put him there let him stay 3 and a half years after he perjured himself before the senate intelligence committee so he must know you know i don't know if you know andrew higgins yeah. well he's got a thing and in a new york times today i have to call attention to it because it kind of sums things up he's talking about i they can knock down the statues but everything and rush area mains exactly where it was on the stump close for chrissake you know where it is not about a grifter talk about a grifter here absolute well jill it's a prize winning riff there let folks speak careful for those statues are in russia fault the idea is they embody curse shows and the whole community as if that has anything to do with what's going on in afghanistan and you're right the taliban story was just was just ridiculous on its face it seems to me steve that the

taliban have been killing americans for the last 18 years i don't think they need a whole lot of hell or a bit incentives to see where the taliban has been killing americans for 18 years in the war has been going on like i say it's been a long. exercise in futility in many ways but i want to go back to something the race. said there and that is about the obama foreign policy and quite simply let's talk about that obama's foreign policy of weakness united states and an apology tour on the around the world really apologizing for american strength and when you're weak the wolves come so said senator john kerry louisiana just this week and so when you talk about where we're going on foreign policy in the options ally had come november 3rd i would suggest that it's you look at what some of her chin to be said about joe biden who sort of joe biden wins the presidency in november his foreign policy could lead us to a place for war is inevitable in fact he said you could build a bomb shelter. yesterday of joe biden's election and so i go back to afghanistan and i go back to the industrial come military industrial complex or

a mansion. if you allow weakness the walls will come and maybe never meet our station hold on maybe part of the conversation is that if american leaders afghanistan in a haphazard way then it'll appear to be a witness much like what we saw with the obama years when american sailors were on their knees with their hands full behind their heads with the rainy and warships directing us maybe sailors how to conduct themselves so this is a concern for the american public i mean why would the sailors there in the 1st place ok that's a different topic for him but steve i would counter by saying if the united states to show me weakness in indecision because it it doesn't have a command in control of the military it's not only the president the united states me it shows weakness and the inability to make a decision because not many king notices it is the worst decision because that's been the case for the last 18 years it should have been a police operation you know tied it and get out was no reason to occupy the country

whatsoever but ray and me go back to what you were saying about the media what do they get out of it i mean what's what's their dig in all of this part of this huge grants go ahead well they're part of the making matter course and there's a list spent now the. military industrial complex can exist without an enemy ok you have to have a credible enemy and so you have to make out russia is russia to be the same as those statues back there or stalin stays in jersey and ski and those folks from the from the from the k.g.b. so that's part of it. they worrisome thing as a nobody seems to realize that russia still has nuclear weapons a few tweak their noses a russian bear often enough they're going to be some sort of minor hostilities could could easily accelerate and and become really dangerous and are the american people prepared for that a quest to prepare for that because the russians are the same aggression of people

as they always had been there almost an ethically. riven to be an aggressive and basis so as as this article this morning you know in the new york times indicates where they enter a room which is less aimed at it and say oh yeah hagan's i mean he's one of the flax that makes a lot of money it's a surprise you know crazy about russia being the same as it was a century interesting thing steve is that you know going in and because i watched this all of the time and i was very keen on untransformed policy when he was a candidate very he made a lot of programs about it because i thought i know a whole team had the courage to stand up and say he obvious year but when it when it comes to the media when it comes to russia when it comes to iran and china we can't really matter there's no downside ever of being wrong is there ever were it doesn't you know right much taller americans trust me i don't believe that to be true and the other thing is it is dest americans prepared to take on russia i don't

think so i don't think that americans are prepared to take on much of anything with a lot of smart phones a lot of very dumb people sadly these people get their information from tech talk which is i mean monitored by china facebook and of course. you've got jeff bezos supplying the world with you know trinkets and trash from all over the world 40 percent of the internet and writing for the washington post and he hates drop the media in america these days is garbage so used to be a time when democrats and liberals actually thought that challenging the establishment and the group think was the right thing to do now they're all in one herd together and if you had chelsea orthodoxy of the group thing which is perpetuated by and b c c.b.s. a.b.c. the washington post the new york times all of them into one you know gobbledygook of nonsense i feel like we are overwhelmed with garbage you know it's hard to figure out what's accurate and what's not and so i don't think america's ready to take on rush hour much and i think you know maybe are fighting in a word you know what congress you congress or the they want they will not.

additional nucular testing and it's not be in that that's a good idea but the reason why they did it was to be against trying to lessen everything is is twisted in terms of this is a creature of where everything is really confused and i think that's really pathetic because one day donald trump is not going to be president maybe in january or maybe 4 years from january or imagine how it were set up side down as a world when the democrats criticize the president for not going to war with iran for not going to war in syria and he gets criticized for that america doesn't want to do it well republicans don't want to go to war democrats want what we don't want to go to war and this president has kept to that promise and so far all right gentlemen i have to jump in here we have to go to a heart break and after that heart break we'll continue our discussion on the military industrial complex and a bilateral death grip on foreign policy stay. thank

you. welcome back to crossfire who are all these are consider i'm peter lavelle trey mind you we're discussing the bipartisan death grip. ok let's go back to ray right before the break you gave me your index finger which means you want to say something go ahead. i just wanted to say you know it's so pat . that the trump is no zone man now when he said that he thought the more decent relationship was russia would be a good thing well i agree with that i think most people who have not been brainwashed would agree with that was he allowed to do that you know russia gate russia gate russia gate and now here's a here's

a the epitome of what's happened. we know that russia gate which was started on the idea that the russians hatched the d.n.c. to get those very damaging even mails around hillary authentic ones but damaging and gave them to weight the only way you know that that's false from the beginning where you know that the head of crown strike now many people are good maybe maybe she doesn't know this because he just raised the new york times but but if you're if you know what came out of the testimony of shawn henry head of crowd strike that testimony was on the 5th of december 2017 and what he said was we have no concrete evidence that anything was actual traded from the d.n.c. that means hacked ok so not only didn't russia hacked but nobody hacked as far as crowd strike you know it's ok now what am i saying i'm saying. that that was reveals many that was revealed on the 7th of may this year so it's today the 8th of

well that's the beginning the 3rd month and the new york times just hasn't mentioned. the colonel that started russia gate namely russian hacking of the d.n.c. has been completely bunked by the guy who knows the guy who is in charge of the forensics the guy that muller said or me said hey you do the forensics so we have the i don't want to do it so what i'm saying is that the mainstream media is not only derelict it's really smells a sense as well as misfeasance and these people have paid big bucks so he information out of the public and did you know that for example steve that crowd strikes head shawn henry had testified that there was no russian hacker the d.n.c. . you know was going on about what did you learn it but i guess perpetuated the b. of these narratives and the comment that you made i don't disagree with you in many ways in that that is trump is not his own man and in some ways i see where that

would be true but look at all the different agents be james clapper you mentioned earlier or bigger stronger or or page or any of these people that are working actively against this president after he took office the slow moving of appointments to put in his own people into his issues of power in importance and that's like a plan i started my life and i'm again i mean how can he be his own man when he has an entire layer of government agents actively working against him and his policies because they don't like him or whatever they profess to their reasoning and it's. then you know you don't have it in all fairness trump appointed bolton to be national security advisor that's now listen you know unforced error and yes absolutely i would agree with that that is an unforced error because he was led to believe by those around him and some of those in this room when you look at some of the folks man. at us or some of the others who were there they were also people that would like to have seen an intervention into iran there's no question the

general mad dog mattis would have liked to go on and bomb iran right along with john bolton they said right there in the situation room and have a cigar enjoy themselves and that's unfortunate. we don't have to bomb iran agree it was it bundy right twice within the best 10 days the damage severely to the time it's nuclear facility it's going to say take years if if they can get it back in operation so holo our military doesn't want to get involved with iran for very good reason straight on hope among others now but let's let the let the israelis do it now trump is happy to let the israelis do it what i'm saying here is trump is the president after all ok and we can say well if he's the president he should act like the president and the best thing he could do was what senator grassley just asked them to do yesterday led john bryant the u.s. attorney in connecticut publish the stuff that he or any harris on the miscreants

at the top of our intelligence and us national strategic are not with and i don't think well maybe i'm talking about brennan i'm talking about clapper i'm talking about alert literally guys say the good sar out there because they all thought hillary was going to win and they didn't even take rudimentary steps like i'm going to i gave it a good i mean on city here a good 90 it was to have all these people fitted for orange jumpsuits that's the 1st thing we need to do here and the guys i want to switch i want to switch the conversation a little bit steve i mean what do you make of this 43 alumni of from the bush era there are turncoats and go oh well i'm going to be working actively for. joe biden and this is the foreign policy blah blah blah i mean what's really amazing to me this is is you know. to the democratic process is they know it no matter what this is going to be bipartisan or we're going to go back to business as usual which was

really quite tragic under democrat or a republican ok i'm not taking sides i'm not i don't we go after each side for specific reasons but basically business as usual again for the 3rd time i'll say 3 presidential election cycles people reject that ok but no matter because they know best they're the adults in the room they don't sometimes room read it a trajectory of tragedy for american foreign policy for it least 40 years go against. the organization of talking about you know bill kristol and company. to make it easy you know this is nothing more than the never trump right let's be honest and you can look i'll use joe biden as an example but there are so many to be made of people who have gone into public service if you will and make themselves exceptionally wealthy or their families and enrich themselves and others i mean let's be honest about the industrial military industrial complex and richest people

and the status quo in riches people you people don't give a damn about the american constitution they want to know how much money they're going to have at the end of the year the end of 10 years how their kids and grandkids are going to profit from all of these things they're doing that's why many of these people remain entrenched so that's the probably face often times and rate you missed susan rice one of those people he's an orange jumpsuit to be started for because she could be your vice presidential running mate would joe biden think about this regarding their honestly these are the kind of people they want to go back to the status quo the one thing about trump that i thank you is universally accepted he is a disrupter he has disrupted the status quo because he has a list of other people maybe he's a narcissist maybe he isn't but i don't care about all that but what he has done is disrupted. the even back and forth republicans are sheer will go there will also actually get along and they actually put you know make money and. mitch mcconnell make money and everybody does just fine as long as we're here what can only one of

the things like found really interesting is when. trump was addressed in the state of the union and of course the democrats would never allow for anything he had to say ok pete here cancer they would say but when when when did they all stand up in sheer clout in unison when they had what's his name why go from. venezuela ok then everybody stood up and clapped this joker did you know nobody knows who he is and then his may look a hellish maybe not so sad that's the bipartisan nonsense i'm talking about. to pick up on your story there was only good job but there was also the pope remember when the pope came here and what he said before the joint session of congress he said i'm a problem is the blood soaked on schrader's oh. senators are represent. if the. blockade was here and

one from rehearing on it was so it was you know give me hypocrisy a bad name that's the name of the game it will make a lot of money if steve just said. tension with russia tension with china now and the american people that how they feel about war which is pretty much against war there or how much they end it because of the way the thing is stacked against them that's the real problem or joe biden that can be any better what we need is a 3rd candidate and i think it's ripe for that. i just hope that the system allows a 3rd candidate to arise should be you know if i mention with this why don't return my character and that's what's wrong with foreign policy because speed is absolutely right nines the word grim everybody's getting paid i mean look at the level of corruption that's going on now going. that would make corruption in ukraine it wouldn't it would make me blush i mean and you know what they know it

they know it i mean does it mean in kerosene or tens of millions of dollars or who just disappears oh it's the it's money laundered someplace and you know i can buy something like that and they know it and they know it but it continues on and on and on it steve. trump has a few months left before the november election night he was very forceful during the campaign about and these wars and i felt embarrassed going to be honest with you when he said it again to west point when he's already said. what does he need to do is it is there a way he can make good on his promise to end our involvement decent afghanistan ok because i think one point we've made here because he can't he can't run on ending wars going to be doesn't do one he can't run go ahead well you know and with everything going on with coded and all the games being played with that in the numbers there there's a lot of distraction you might have noticed in the press otherwise today but i

think some good points were made here today and that is you can't run a foreign policy if you don't have the bogeyman out there you have to have an enemy same is true of domestic policy i mean let's be honest racial divisions in america they don't want to solve those who want to perpetuate those but a magnifying glass them so they can you know ratchet riots on the streets and claim that there's all this division in america when really if you walk around the streets of america and talk to people like i do and and others you'll find there's a lot more people that have a lot in common we don't have all this division that they say that we do if you watch n.b.c. news or read the washington post and so the difficulty for trump is this if you start still around afghanistan the battle cry from the left is going to be well he doesn't care about old people until the 19 people are dying in texas and florida so that he's going to be villainize for that because the left has to have trump as the villain because they really don't want trump to run against biden they want trump to run against trump that's what they want because the only person can be down from november 3rd is donald trump they know that i don't know if joe biden can survive

90 minutes on the stage during a debate not once twice but 3 times that's going to be difficult i mean look at biden's performances in previous debates he's got a challenger so as far as getting out of foreign wars i don't think there's enough time on the clock here now could he propose a wind down or a or starting to disengage in some way yes that would be. one time thing after the election last 20 seconds go to you ray go ahead. well i think i need to make clear that this is the degree trump is vilified if you deserve every every inch of credits. he's not the president is it 6 or are awful but i swore a solemn most are protected and defend the constitution united states against all enemies foreign and domestic there was a soft coup to prevent him from becoming president. well. i want to thank my guests in raleigh and in lansing i want to thank our viewers for watching us iraqis the next time remember.

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no 1st. point should. m.p.'s warn the government the u.k. could be heading for a 2nd wave of shortages in personal protective equipment if this is a resurgence of covert 19 well that's not new factors criticize the government's 15000000000 pound p.p.a. fund saying it will be mostly spent abroad and should be spent at home i'll be joined by a risk expert and a manufacturer. of the rights of corona virus transmission in england rises from between no point 8 and one of the many knock down restrictions were eased on july the 4th that says an app the studies the virus symptoms finds the number of new cases is no longer declining for the 1st time in months as parts of england to begin to see spikes and infections. and inquiry is to be launched into police across england and wales to find out if the practice of stop and search is the

based on racial profiling. and illegal for calls for a review of the evidence behind lester's return to law and down amid claims the government sanction was on lawful we talked to the lawyer bringing the action. m.p.'s are warning the government that the u.k. could be heading for a 2nd wave of shortages in personal protective equipment if there's a resurgence of coronavirus the m.p.'s claim the issue isn't being treated with sufficient urgency r t u k shad to every stash he explores the various failures in supplying p.p. throughout the pandemic. as a u.k.r. knocks the lock down it seems many are bracing for a 2nd wave of the corona virus but also a 2nd wave of a shortage of people it's not new news the us throughout the entire pandemic and on the front line really struggled to get hold of that protective gear to adequately

safeguard against the virus for months on and it seems like they looked our lessons haven't been learned over the department says it is committed to building the stocks to meet longer term demand we are not convinced that it is treating the market with sufficient urgency or that. the government is adamant that the stock of p.p. has never run out on a national level but with demand increased by 20000 percent those on the front line would beg to differ in fact 50 percent of and it starts so there was not enough p.p. and although day to run its usage is hard to get hold of a survey of nurses and carers found that nearly 90 percent were worried about catching the virus at work while the government stresses that the main challenge it faced was getting the right p.p. to the right place at the right time initially masks were issued and then the statement was made that actually we have. tested them and these masks are

ok having said that they now say we need to improve this mask so there's a lot of luck so for it and you need to answer this but rather than to say the market has now been resolved with demand spiralling think u.k. had to look further afield and source p.p.p. on international markets but that came with its own set of problems a plane from turkey landed at the peak of the pandemic in april carrying a bunch of 400000 much needed p.p. counts upon arrival it emerged at the equipment didn't meet british safety standards in a very embarrassing blunder for the government so the u.k. is able to produce a fair share of its own people there's no imminent guarantee that it won't need to source from abroad again with experts in the field saying that the quality is the key component of effectiveness in for. tactic against the virus perhaps the government should try before you buy gov it shows had a consistent and clear position on place compering which is the good quality

face coverings that really do filter out all particles essential part of protecting health workers and others whose jobs have become in frequent contact with people who have the virus and w.h.o. wanted to make certain that these very special place marks and 95 or every 3 years are available for health workers everywhere because we were really worried that they would be bought up by or stockpiled by people who didn't actually need them the most so that was the reason why w. your was very particular use that high quality praise protections for health workers and they've been dealing with the shortages by revising their counting tactics why not double the numbers instead of counting each pair of gloves as one why not count each club individually and hey presto you've doubled your stop without even lifting a finger this catalog of areas certainly weren't sitting choir surely to get it

right the 2nd time around if there's a 2nd time around that is not in line with most of the government's coronavirus responses they say it's too soon there will be an inquiry of some form. once the cove a crisis is over we don't even know when we've reached the halfway because this is of course still rolling but i do not consider at the moment. a full scale nationally is a good use of official talk earlier this week the chancellor announced a 15000000000 pounds boost to p.p. but will it be a case of too little too late especially as some of those in government say we're only halfway through this pandemic child edits dashti artsy london. of work all the issues raised there are now joined by risk and disaster expert professor david alexander david thank you very much for talking to us rich she says. what has promised a further 15000000000 pounds worth of p.p.a. what we're facing are the shortage anyway. but on a cost this is a beast of a disease to do with this intake but you can do it some of these programs simply by

throwing money at them in the 1st place we did have a fair idea of what was likely to be needed a long long time it got of we've had 2 major exercises one in 2007 and one in 2016 that brought to the fore the need to have adequate personal protective equipment if it wasn't obvious anyway and perhaps it should have paid because it is very clear what is needed in the case of a fire a pandemic and then of course the u.k. failed to join me in the european per curiam and texas audi's and they did a lot of tearing throwing of accusations and so and over that but it does appear that the government was very very missed in not joining that and that it should have done or at least could have done and the trouble with ace is that really it needed to be thought out and prepared for they saw bearing in mind at this point in time a case something that has been at the top of the kalam its own risk register since

2007 in other words the most likely and the most serious risk that the united kingdom faces than you would have expected a bit better planning than that given that the needs were evident what a bit earlier we heard from a british manufacturer who says that to provide vital equipment these jobs help the economy save on emission costs we should use the u.k. made p.p.a. with the help. what i cry to grady and. what we've actually seen these frantic improvise sation social which is perhaps one reason why we have planeloads of the wrong stuff arriving from techie steg if you cannot stop to quote quantities of they said you should have in place arrangements are manufactured is and they can if the appropriate be british manufacturers and i'm sure these are appropriate that they be british manufacturers but again improvising that is very difficult in the same way that improvising pretty you're going to produce very difficult well the

government has ordered full d.p.p. in the process you said then we should do the lessons have been learned. one would hope so but i'm not entirely sanguine about that given that we see lessons bain repeated that we've had pandemics in the palace that we've had experience from this pandemic and it isn't terribly clear whether those lessons have been fully taken into account the current european thinking among federal interest and epidemiology says is that the 2nd wave is highly likely that doesn't mean that it is inevitable but we do see spikes and it at least horrifying to countries around the world we have a full scale 2nd wave in iran for example the 2nd wave is large in the 1st wave and that was a country that was severely affected so there is a considerable risk of this i mean really the it's a very substantial preparations for it and i hope that they'll be the proof of the pudding will be in the 18 and therefore what you will need to do is to reinterview

people in the warehouses because that is where the proof of the protein will be if you will forgive a bit of mixed metaphors did professor david eggs on it thank you very much indeed . suppression. or we were manufacturers claim the 15000000000 pound spent on p.p. throughout the coronavirus pandemic has been a gross waste of money the government has supplied the n.h.s. with protective gear from abroad despite numerous of us as we heard from u.k. companies for more on this and i'm joined by the director of safety supply company frank shields that's can't brennan can't thank you for talking to us the u.k. faced a shortage of p.p.a. joining the 1st outbreak of coronavirus if we have a 2nd then we'll be prepared when we have cap and yes yes. for me. ideally. going to being the government and all the communities skinning massively at the moment and throughout the globe those new industries newman factoring cern's

appearing so if we can manage this. at the moment before before it spreads too quickly really should be one of companies like yours doing to keep up with the rising demand trying to get into trip new factories keeping on the mind with finding out new supply is that at the moment the competitive. fears and and just trying to being content the government and finding out what can you do close obviously goes in the obvious issue of trying solve the right products which they're not always see if you need be appeared to be so it's not always correct. that's a challenge as well what's your experience been in trying to secure a deal with the government's p.p.a. portal. at the beginning it was obviously your little bit difficult but i need to admit through past few really is the government really of these care what works

pretty well resonating and and being quick quick quick clearance well and i think that what's wrong with sourcing p.p.a. from abroad. glad to momand most of the b.p. is a burden must think is their industry it's based in china in asia are not necessarily in iraq as one of the past few weeks their small company is trying to run fact you'd be in europe it's still a small scale so too and prices to mean that in iraq will be very difficult because at the moment asia is meeting their demand and the gearing up to produce is even more they kept running thank you very much indeed. well the corona virus infection rate or our number has increased in england to between your point 8 and one that's according to figures from the government's scientific advisory group for emergencies where friday's figures show the our number has slightly risen from last

week when it stood between north point 82 no point 9 if the our number rises above one the covert 19 virus is able to transmit exponentially between people it's the 1st set of figures to arrive since major lockdown restrictions were lifted on saturday. well it comes as data released by public health england has revealed the number of coded 19 infections has jumped in 8 areas of england since last week the worst affected area is the size coast city of southampton which has seen the highest rise in cases in the past week jumping by 4 point 410-0000 of the population or other affected areas including bromley in southeast london where cases rose to 2 point one per 100000 the north london bar of his things and or cases rose to 2.9 or meanwhile separate data collected by the coded simpson study out past the number of new cases have stopped declining for the 1st time since the law was imposed its figures show there was an average of 1472 cases each day in the

2 weeks leading up to july the 4th where the number was slightly higher than the previous fortnights when data suggests there were 1445 daily cases or 27 fewer when medical professor paul hunter told me more local lockdown seem probable depending on how successful the government's test and crisis strategy proves. i think we will see more localized lock downs because that's some point the. it despite what i said about that the next few weeks some point it's likely that we will start to see increases again and rather than this be uniform across the country i think what we're likely to see is is more localized outbreaks like we've seen in leicester and possibly other places as well and and the point is that if we control those adequately if we've got a very good test track and trace system that really works well with local public health teams then we should be able to act soon and suppress those localized

outbreaks and keep the instance of the disease nationally at a low level but that does depend on having an effective surveillance system that communicates well with local public health teams of us until the meantime paul's jim sports center there will reopen from july the 25th are we reopening at the right pace. again it is difficult to be absolutely sure i think we have to be kept we have still got quite a lot of illness circulating in the community so i think. the relaxations we have to when we implement that we have to be very careful that we keep an eye on what the numbers are doing and stop those relaxations. if that number of cases sustainably start increasing and i suspect at some point during the rest of this year we will actually have to rewind some of these relaxations i think with the

summer although the weather is not so good at the moment but with people being outdoors more then we will have some more leeway in how we relax restrictions but that the good weather as we move into autumn will not continue and and i think that will be the time that we're really challenged with some of these relaxation. coming up after the break a letter from a legal phone calls for a review of the evidence justifying the government's decision to return to the english city of leicester to lock down we hear from the lawyer behind the action. an investigation is set to be launched into other offices from england to wales racially profile if the minority has been using stop and search practices. is your media a reflection of reality. in

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no dares thinks. we dare to ask. for. welcome back the independent office for police conduct will launch an investigation into offices across england and wales to determine whether they use off the stop and search. practice is racially motivated for this r t u k z surround us now with the details so that he says that was actually prompted then this inquiry what we've been seeing particularly in the last few months and

weeks have been complaints by a number of leaders in different communities that me communities black and minority ethnic communities have been pursued more and policed more harshly by forces around the country and that's led to the independent office of police conduct p.c. to launch this inquiry to take place later this year so that whether some of the police tactics and what's perceived as a more aggressive form of policing in certain communities is motivated by any racial bias now black and minority ethnic people are 9 times more likely to be stopped and searched 8 times more likely to be tasered and due to the lock down and a perception that there has been a higher level of policing in those communities for example for people breaking any lockdown measures or for people who have helped parties over the last few weeks there have been those complaints and the i.p.c.c.

now saying that they are going to be launching their inquiry to look into the reasons behind. evidence of disproportionality in the use of police powers has long been a concern which impacts on confidence in policing particularly in black asian and minority ethnic communities but even with the numbers and the statistics particularly from stop and search data we still need to better understand the causes and what can and should be done to address this in the coming months we will be launching a race discrimination as a thematic area of focus to establish the trends and the patterns which might help drive real change in policing practice. we've seen over the last few days and weeks a number of high profile cases which have come to media attention and widespread attention including doubt of bianca williams the british athletes and sprinter who was in a car with her child and her partner when police pulled them over and threats and

smashing the windows before pulling her husband out. of the police in that incident said that they were looking for drugs and guns with ms williams being a professional athlete neither of those were found and a complaint was made for which the commissioner for the metropolitan police chris adik apologized to the family another case involves the father of the rapper wretch 32 being tasered in his own by police during a raid. has been an increase perception an increased focus on policing tactics particularly in the city communities amongst minorities and a perception from some within those communities that perhaps police policing more affluent areas or areas with whites or populations in exactly the same way but we've also been hearing from amanda pierce and she's deputy. deputy assistant commissioner at the metropolitan police who says that part of the issue the met

face is that as well as the perpetrators of sudden types of violent crimes also many of the victims happens also be young black men and that they want to stop any more young black men being killed needlessly. stop and search is a tool we can use in order to prevent violent crime when we look at the victims and perpetrators of violent crime they are over represented by predominantly young black males even just taking one machete off the street might prevent another homicide and therefore that link between what the demographic of those people who are victims and perpetrators of homicide obviously then there is a link between that and those people who may be subject to stop and search given the information and intelligence we have on them now it's been more than 20 years since the much politan police in particular were described in the mcpherson report as being institutionally racist and this inquiry's choose to begin later this year or so and there will be hopes in some courses that this was perhaps lead to change

finally and that will help to rebuild trust between communities and police forces they say thank you very much andy. the u.k.'s defense minister has reportedly heaped praise on saudi arabia a day after saudi individuals were added to the u.k. sanctions list over human rights abuses 20 senators including aides to crown prince mohammed bin solomon face travel bans and asset freezes in the u.k. over the 2018 murder of journalist to market shortly well according to saudi media ben morris rang his saudi counterpart on wednesday to reaffirm the u.k.'s appreciation of their shared defense and regional security cooperation but critics say the corn amounted to a private apology for the sanctions and think it's send the wrong message to human rights abuses it comes as international trade secretary liz truss agreed the resumption of aids exports to saudi arabia to spite its controversial war in neighboring yemen. have a department of health faces

a legal threats accusing the government of imposing an unlawful law down on the city of leicester a letter from a local legal firm to the department is calling for the law down to be lifted or a judicial review undertaken to see if it was necessary it claims the scientific data used by the government to justify the measures were flawed such as positive test being counted twice the letter also contends that the number of coronavirus cases in the city by the lockdown was called the end of june didn't pose a serious threat to public health whereas the review goes ahead and finds the move was unlawful the government may have breached business rights and becomes open to compensation claims well the patent of health says it couldn't comment on the matter at this stage. with more on the legal letter on that i'm joined by the human rights lawyer behind the case that sophie can safely thank you for talking to us what has the government done that is potentially on lawful here denying businesses the right to operate. is denying businesses the right to operate and also the

article find restrictions on movement for every single person within the lockdown area well how is the government responded to your action. they've acknowledged the correspondence and and he for the correspondence is it's at this stage privilege and confidential so it's very much the ball is in the government's court a strong case has been put in relation to the scientific evidence which doesn't on the scientific evidence that the government relies on does not back up the need to lock down lester or what will what will this review do is take you don't get that goes in your favor what happens next well then the individuals in the lock down would be a natural to bring article 5 restriction rights claims in the courts and also businesses would be able to bring protocol claims in the courts and full financial loss and expenses where you say that the evidence used to justify the lock down is

flawed can you explain what those concerns are. when the public health england report of the 29th of june which has been released by public health england on that website that was the report that the man of lester was referring to the 29th of june in which he he's basically described that as dodgy data and also all the dirty data inside the report the report itself and clearly does not show or does not say that there has been an outbreak in leicester and so it's very much the government has decided to impose this lockdown on lester and asa best issue and they saw that if the governments were to pledge support to support businesses affected by the lockdown would that help that if the loctite were lifted in the meantime. what it would help but the issue is rights human rights property rights that are being fringed being infringed at the moment it would still be training courts for

businesses from the 4th of july to say our property rights have been infringed it would still be a right of any individual it within the lockdown to say from the 30th of june my my article 5 rights have been infringed so yes compensation is one thing but then there would still be compensation for the infringement in the meantime that less is not done is to be reviewed in 8 days i mean the government could stall and actually not time could be lifted so if that were the case then there isn't much point to the action is that well there's an option there the option is being has been given to the government by today to trigger the terminations of the restrictions to bring this matter to an end so the option was there was a 2 options that 1st option was terminations by triggering the section $2.00 of the regulations or alternatively if that doesn't that some bring about the lifting of the restrictions then obviously the threat of j r is hanging over the government where you are claiming that lester's rise in cases

didn't constitute a threat to wider public health but surely cases would have continued to rise if action were taken really well that's what the scientific evidence and says the opposite scientific evidence says that on the 24th of june the level of infections will level of positive test 0 cases were actually had gone down not up so the point at which the government is deciding to bring a lockdown in is not substantiated by the scientific evidence so it's the opposite that's happened and on the 7th of july the secretary of state has then conferred that the rate has gone down to 117. 100 k. it's going to interesting to see what happens like become thank you very much indeed. thank you more news at the top of the hour.

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sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have nuclear weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so that's why we're going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news or direction as where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly it's time to do news again. these photographs would usually sit in family albums few people other than loved ones would know where the subjects lived and worked or of their dreams but that changed in the early spring of 2020. health care workers who saved lives in the 1st

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