about its latest global predictions of coronavirus induced mass under oath more coming up in today's going underground of 1st mainstream media around the world have correctly been covering the injustices of racial capitalism in the wake of the george floyd murder in minnesota but australia where indigenous peoples are incarcerated a rate 4 times greater than the proportion of african-americans jailed in the u.s. has not been front page news and as multi-national mining companies destroy all trace of cultures that are 46000 years old is australia committing crimes against humanity joining me now from perth in australia is the director of the dumbarton aboriginal corporation robert edgington who's been campaigning for the protection of sacred sites from capitalist exploitation robert thanks so much for joining us there is actually some front page news here in a sense because we're hearing papers that people have been fighting for the release off a decades of finally showing us the role of buckingham palace in the overthrow of the australian government to go off with i mean before we get on to cave

destruction and mining australia then only became independent in 1986 way later than the african colonies in the colonies of the british empire other ones yes reluctantly. be very well hidden we've been locked into a war of genocide here for 240 years. we. at times whites of the world to awaken to our part as indigenous people and to act on the injustices and the continued genocide in which our people as now have faced 240 years ago the british forced their occupation onto our lands and for stuff you question was through. frontin massacres where you know our people were right to that dorn and massacred and. let the holes.

were to our arm peoples were poisoned and now people fell to their deaths through the pores in of water holes then our people faced horrendous. policies of you know also introduced through legislation the rights to these drugs and government the forcibly removed their children from their parents and put them into a church run missions and you know today we see our young people make up as you just said the greatest pandemic of incarcerations to just 6 will why could head per population and then of course we've got a pandemic of of suicide and we lose people in this country not than there are young people lost on the gaza strip and the gaza strip brings international news in terms of what's happening to the palestinians and yet the

death of our young people how the rise of the was. over here we're talking about our friend here as a part of all of a destination and the 5 eyes network which is going to save us because we're dropping huawei as a 5 geo operator and i'm going to tell you your prime minister scott morrison claimed there was no flavoring in australia i think he slightly tempered those remarks. well a strait has been good on the bedrock of lies and deceit has been built on the bedrock if you lark of environmental can each and on the blood of our people like us and our people have suffered massacres a lot into our continued secret war that i would say is if not you know equal but just as profound as the. experience of the nazis and what they did to the jews and to to others look a stronger use gotta hit me history son of when you got scott morrison outside the

prime minister to the world that well hang on a minute we don't treat our black people like you know they do in america you know the world doesn't have anything to cry because the knowledge of the histories been defined of the dicta and not defined by the vanquished so the aboriginal us hasn't been heard and through the united nations and the world health organization the children you know unesco and all these other international bodies have not focused probably all the funny enough on the issue of what's happening to aboriginal people in this country and the recent devastation of the jew can gourgeon the colonies past to be put into perspective of history of where people understand the ongoing trauma of genocide and the disrespect of our culture and our people ok well let's get to that instruction let's get out of that destruction rio tinto famously

financing henry kissinger in the past when accused. by china of espionage rio tinto has apologized and said it was a misunderstanding when it destroyed the 46000 year old archaeology in the education gorge on may the 24th during the 2nd round of virus pandemic can you forgive rio tinto for destroying it and annihilating the put a. kora people's culture well of course you never could forgive them and you can't forgive other companies like behaved p. woodside f.n. g. they're all environmental bandits now capitalized on the wealth of the minerals or land the ground of aboriginal people's land they export those minerals to places like china it's a massive economic return to this country and astray grows very wealthy and privileged in the western sense of our finance and aboriginal people to whom you

know reside in remote communities that under my hand and those minerals are impoverished groups of 3rd world conditions and look you can't. even comprehend the destruction of the jew can gorge there were 2 cape shelters and through archaeological findings and scientific research in one of the caves that rio tinto blustered there was a 1000 year old haircut there was i 20 year old kangaroo bun that was sharpened that the old people from the can do can do groom the people would have caused boomerangs that this is and then in the other rock shelter there was a defined archeological site that had the imprints fossilized of of a group of 6 people that were sitting in a circle around a campfire pit and yucca logical finds was that they did find that there was these

minute flanks of wood fired up and kangaroo done and identified that where those people consume that trudeau's i didn't people was flooded 6 there are 1000 years old now when you look at 46 hells and years and you try to equate that to something similar in terms of the sacredness in the western world you big challenge you know the i don't think that you could probably find this sort of human loss to history into the environment into indigenous people. will be that it'll morning company found a line of gold or your own e m under the pyramids of giza or if a man temple was blown up in south america it could be quite a good deal is it they sit on the side and the occupy can of the bruised

statues in the afghanistan area when they are blown apart by us i mean the cia linked the. taliban blowing up the buddhas in afghanistan the buke a link to isis. destruction of parts of palmira that is how important these structures were and rio tinto has apology you don't believe is good enough no rio tinto had no knowledge of the sacredness of these cars in 2014 through the documentary that it not only in $1.00 to $200.00 and it had the old men in the documentary showing the rio tinto executives how sacred those sites were and to go anywhere near those sacred areas they say that means understanding australia western australia as minister for indigenous australians ben wyatt now approving of b.h.p.

demolitions i should say there are serious fraud office and d.o.j. investigations in rio tinto in guinea a swiss corruption investigation to glencore and nevertheless presumably ben wyatt is approving of new b.h.p. demolitions and mining because it provides jobs these massive mining conglomerates that you may say destroy the environment and destroy culture they provide jobs. well ok. providing jobs is important but why couldn't you put a buffer zone of a 200 kilometer process let's say or distance around those sacred sites and you know rio tinto be had to be an excavator of mine or whatever they're taken from the land and leave that buffer so that the 2nd sites are protector why would you why would you want to blow up a and anxious site is there such really even the privilege of affluence of money

and power are you going to destroy the world and everything that's i mention within it when you look at these sites and not just important regional people in our culture they're important to world history you know the cotton to the logical. some evidence and you know. again to the other facts out of these can be nice to look at mission attack the other acts out of the caves are the traditional owners reaction when into those sites no no going to blog on and blast them they took out a 2nd of the facts and then they got them in the 2nd tyner on property owned by rio tinto in the coup and that's a form of you know writers of the last tuck 2 writers they've got mean and they've taken out the facts that didn't belong to them and they didn't consult the the people in gaza taken out those are the facts so look the matter which way you look

at this this is a willful act of of of of carnage of blowing up of aboriginal so i can cite and the root needs to stand united in terms of what that means for rio tinto do not say it's willful they say there was a misunderstanding and certainly don't admit any wrongdoing in any way you have a court system i know that parenting 37000 land claim tonight 84 yet to resolve it may take a 100 years we do have a court system for aboriginal people to seek justice. all the court system is as weak as a heritage act that is written on it for you to see that cool it hearing the fact is that section 19 of the act guy named reaction to what you call the legal right to blast that sought but section 19 or so it gives me the right of the of the morning companies to actually go ahead saw enough with the minister and then

blow that site that sought but it doesn't give is the traditional owners the right to appeal the decision of the blast so if you think that's a fair and accurate account of a company given the right to go ahead well they're not doing it as that's where the mistake really laws but i'm sorry i need is that reality don't you that that was the sector's thought and i ruefully lost that sought for ever into a rubble and dumbleton now has as a result of that clue for a number of stipulations from reality time out to make at least what i've done which is wrong robert i'll stop you there more from robert edgington after this break plus with a new report showing world hunger looks to rise further because of coronavirus despite a quarter of the world's population already unable to access food we ask the un's marco sanchez continuo if capitalism is really the best model for helping us achieve increasingly elusive 0 hunger by 2030 all of them all coming of about to

have going underground. elbert forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. i robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such orders to conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point obviously is to trace and. every other than shia. muslims like to take on various jobs and with artificial intelligence will summon the dream of. a robot must protect its own existence as only exist.

we are segregated only by social class lower middle class people also in poverty by 1st place if you're born into a poor family you're born into a minority family if you're born into a family that only has a single parent that really constrains your life chances people die on average 15 years old if you born into generational poverty. it's a tough tough fight every day to meet your needs and the needs of your family.

we go to work. straight home. welcome back i'm still with we started by talking about mass incarceration is it the australian education system to blame that people don't know that your incarceration rates of people of color are so much worse in the united states of america well the education system. it will influence its journalism that media has done nothing in this country but be detrimental to the human rights of aboriginal people and your right within the education system histories are told as i said earlier from the victor's lens never from the lens of the. original people and aboriginal culture and our rights in terms of our traditional religion linkage

with this land and what this land means to us in terms of our religious connection is never been part of the the education system and you know why distro use don't have our you know much oh standard law in regards to to our history and to our culture so how would you expect them to have respect for it if they're denied the truth of our position in this country is a legal and the right to cussed out you know and i think the only way this country will be better off in terms of the politics you're relating to was a if the militia captain who didn't come here to you to begin with just finally has one australian journalist truthteller journey in a sandwich is according to the un being tortured quite near the studio in london why did he get an aboriginal passport and why do you think scott morrison is doing what appears to be very little for his freedom the freedom of an australian citizen

well i think with julian assange it was obviously the founder of wiki leaks and he determined to make about the world to the public the atrocities of the american. military and the american government look when you look at political imprisonment and you know you look at it you find on telling the truth you go to war so i understand that most of aboriginal incarceration in this country is a political football be incarceration you know a lot about ritual people who are in prison are in prison there too. very menial crimes if at all a lot of aboriginal people don't even. know why they're in prison so look julia look just you know support amongst the aboriginal people there's no question about the same time and ritual people have to survive just to keep alive in this country on a day to die and i says we've got 1910 year old young children taking their lives because

they are marginalised and rejected a world that doesn't include them and a world that broken and gone wrong well we invited to rio tinto b.h.p. the other mining companies on the australian ambassador london on the program robert had written thank you thank you. for the newly published state of food security nutrition in the world report has found that in a world of a few 1000 billionaires a quarter of the entire human population struggles to access food now with the current pandemic causing severe job losses that number such a rise by 130000000 at the end of this year alone joining me now to discuss the new report from rome is deputy director of the agricultural economics division and the food and agriculture organization of the u.n. marcus sanchez cunto thank you so much marko for coming on we know from the institute of policy studies how just us billionaires have gained more than a half a trillion dollars since coded hit and 2000 not 1000000000 as

a richer than 4600000000 people how many people are food insecure or are going to be starving tonight in depends on where well i'm going to take right i mean the report that you supported different types of indicators that that show the gravity of the problems right. the confining of the reported year is that nearly 6 canada 90000000 people are hungry that's almost 90 percent of the world's population right and then means there's been an increasing when you don't think 1000000 people not accounting for corporate jets. which is also an increase of. 60000000 people in 5 years 690000000 that's less than the 821000000 undernourished from the last report of course of course as with things are getting better no not really a whisper a new report and these are a large a large analysis and that we have devised all did it say this serious of the prevalence of undernourishment backwards because we got information that is new on

food consumption distribution coming from service from the countries which which we couldn't we couldn't get it for more than 10 years so we were able to we were able to rebuy the undernourishment numbers than where to buy these not just this year is the whole series and type series going backwards right now what it shows though is that and it continues to be on the rice regardless of the number of course the number means a lot but it's almost 700000000 we have done 7 of these and didn't report it even from last year when nice we have responded the number of indicators that typical number we use in the prevalence of undernourishment which is the hunger number right but i think you are also interesting that in the in another indicator that we have which is social and i mean the capering pretty sustainable development goals which is the prevalence of mordor rate and severe levels of food insecurity that is people who are no longer not only hand you're right but they may be eating but at the right these are people who don't have regular access to safe nutritious and sufficient food so you fucked about in the moderate levels of security these

2000000000 people in the world were quite insecure we have a report here saying thousands of children are going hungry to the point of malnutrition and being admitted to hospital just in the 1st 6 months of this here in england that is given coronavirus how do you get a figure 132000000 going on gri because of cove it is not right no and these numbers aren't given you are 42001000 the 2000000000 people of food insecure in the world for 2001. team if you don't take into account the corona by those jets in these numbers right we have done a projection of the hunger numbers well what he means if you know the current trends continue into the future and we have concluded that by 2030 june this number of hunger will surpass a 140000000 people does not accounting for college now we have also we have poster child understand what i can possibly call it on these numbers and that's the tricky

part right because you know the numbers for comic people moving you know any any any forecasts of economy work in the world is moving you know by the month the forecasts are you know because things are getting worse and worse no matter that aspect we have to try to play around with the most recent economic growth is in the news of the fall of the international monetary fund the i.m.f. and whatever is in the you take for economic growth and you factoring in the numbers of anger you find out that you move in the range of 42020 from 80 to 130000000 more people going hungry as a result of conflict and this is particularly the case of those countries who are well low income another foot deficit countries because they rely a lot of what imports and you know what is going on in the world with disruptions. well i have to our city heads the i.m.f. its sister organization the world bank said that china pulled more people out of poverty in recent years that any other or any other entity in history 800000000

people out of poverty destroying a skew all the statistics of things actually worse if you look to the say in europe basis or in africa basis because of the skewing of china china is a large country no matter what happens with the numbers in china they move the world numbers and you only question why did number is now 690000000 and one of the reasons is that we also managed to get more access to the numbers from china particularly in numbers will power food distribution it is happening in china you see china has been diminishing poverty and you're set but we're not seeing the same the same trend in the numbers of hunger for china so we push a lot to china and also to well more countries to give us the data or how food is being stupid in the world and that is why we see that we factor up the new number for china and 12 or it countries this is why the numbers are now 690000000 people

hungry and not as much as before because it takes us on poverty is kind of the same we don't know exactly what is the impact of quality on on poverty in the world and in china but most likely it is going to be a big impact now if we have costs from covert costs from wars armed by the $1000000000.00 companies climate change the actual hunger in your report also costs money to the economy because of preventative health care i understand what we have though in this report we have looked more carefully and diets and we have fun ballad that 3000000000 people in the world don't have access to the cheap is how think date the cheapest healthy diet right it means that the otherwise healthy diet. cost fight times more than a basic diet but only satisfice of the energy requirements from basic staples so we have been trying to look at this cost in this report was he interesting is that

many people would say yeah but you know we can shift a healthy diet but there is spending so what do with though since many people will not have access to those dates all over the world and you said 97 percent of health costs a link to unhealthy diet exactly that's what i was trying to say but i know what we have done what we have done is we have taken to calling consumption by this of the world how we eat and we have just continued despite this to 2030 right where we have concluded is that if you had to continue eating like it and produce that we had food right and you would you would have a cause that is related to health direct cost for health you know you have mortality you have known communicable diseases that you have to take care of right or these costs would just sit $1300000000.00 per year by 2030 now you know if you if you choose to health that day is where we are where we are estimating now is that you will reduce those costs by 97 percent whatever is not only about health

because the foot system as you may know is cruelly responsible for an important percentage of the greenhouse gas emissions right so we have done also an exercise whereby you take into account current consumption but there's the way we produce you look it's just really does took 2030 right and then you determine what are the diet related schorsch a cost of greenhouse greenhouse gas emissions and this is to make it to be 1.7 trillion producer by 2030 well just let me just finally and i should say that according to oxford university one study of nearly half of all british adults are food in secure given that you say half the world's food comes from one of 1000000000 small scale farmers is part of the reason we're not going to hit the 2030 targets on because of the. big trade blocks like the european union like the w t o preventing the small scale farmers producing food you are touching upon a very important very important bottleneck let me call it that way which is

a bottleneck because in the report with say when i get what i did recently that are you know taken because of healthy food app and there are many reasons and one of the reasons is trade policy you're touching upon that under protectionism we have determined that the political economy we call it you know protection our retreat policy is our increase in the cost of the trisha's so now if you if you look at let's say northern america and europe which which we do in the report you're not is that out of the tree 1000000000 people that don't have access to a healthy diet 1x8w1x8w people living in this a the u.s. canada and the u.k. and you would wonder how is that possible right because her sick diets in this country is you know are are let's say relatively cheaper than imported countries but then you need to take into account that there is high inequalities within these countries and also an exercise that we have done is when you compared the price of nutritious foods in this country u.k. u.s.

and high income countries versus the price of energy dense foods with minimal nutritional value do not is that is 6 times more meaning that for many people it's just impossible to offer a healthy diet even in a developed war scantier thank you. that's it for the show will be back on saturday at a further hearings in the fraud trial of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu a bit 51 percent dissatisfaction i mean his handling of coronaviruses new global condemnation of his plan to further annex the illegally occupied west bank until then wash your hands of join me on the ground on twitter facebook you tube santana and instagram. seem wrong. but. just don't hold. any belief to shape

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computer. in today's headlines china vows retaliation after president trump vokes on kong's preferential trade treatment a move to further sanctioning chinese officials and businesses. also this hour the sex crime culture in the u.s. military the brutal murder of a young soldier in texas it seems other service women bravely come forward as commanders are called out for not doing more to crack down on one victim claims they're being silent. it's happening a lot. in just the amount of control that the military has to keep it kind of quiet is what is surprising. massive protests overnight in jerusalem as angry crowds.