of tear gas and warfare not seen even in he even in countries where are the un has imposed sanctions on. yet it's really appalling to see in the streets of berlin it's right downtown in the heart of our city and every night appears to look like a war zone we have troops in camouflage police deploying tear gas and flash bangs and it's absolute chaos down town portland and it's hard to see in a city that i love so much now you know the job or the boss of a department of homeland security says you're all violent and i casts on the streets of poland apparently they are using george w. bush's 2002 homeland security act $20.00 to not change under president obama that allows the federal security security forces to attack what they presumably see as violent advocates yeah i mean i'm not a violent man i care if they have never committed violence at a protest much of what they say is violent an arche is actually graffiti. i know

that many people are appalled to see that graffiti but i think that images such as george floyd getting the life choked out of him or even the flash bangs and rylan that we've seen at these protests as much more appalling than any graffiti that my occur at a protest and i also think it is a very small amount of individuals who may do that graffiti and it does not make sense in a country those opposed to be a free country that they would be deploying indiscriminate weapons against entire nonviolent crowds just because of the actions of some small amount of individuals while the nato nations are supposed to i don't know media in countries that washington may see as enemies the pictures of had to be on the internet mainly they're not headlining the news what have you witnessed and what have you heard from the street level actions of police involved in because we've been seeing what

seem to be u.s. federal forces attacking protesters on the ground amidst clouds of tear gas. i think what you're seeing is accurate but i think that part of the story that is missed is that this happened because i fit the days of protest before the federal officers came in and before it was federal officers to point here gas it was our own local police departments that were deploying tear gas and beating protesters and so it's just continued we've seen terror for years with mayors in america as well as. the president himself not over what to do about pro test but rather who gets to beat out protesters who gets to detain them who gets to throw them in a unmarked bands who gets to deploy tear gas and so at some point the person deplane the tear gas might change but the tenor on the ground in. city of the

protests i don't think it's going to end until we see justice for people like brianna taylor and george floyd and many others that have men killed by police in portland well president jiang has previously been on the record as saying of course the black eyes mother movement began under obama not his presidency and he is saying that there would be no poor blood he would be burned it would be burned to the ground if it wasn't for those federal forces anything personally that said touch your mother demonstrations. yeah i mean the effects of this tear gas i think are incredibly scary we were there in full protective gear trying to help people out of the gas you don't actually see it coming in it just is in the air it's not like a cloud that you can run from there was no warning your skin begins to burn and then eventually your eyes you can completely not see can't breathe and it completely immobilizes you so it's not even a effective way for crowds to be dispersed but rather it makes you have to stop you

can't see you can't run away with it why. stan exposes you to a hit from baton sent arrest an exception and i also think that there are long term effects as well as the short term effects of the tear gas that we don't yet know all of the details about you know for people around the world watching they probably don't know or poland is i suppose there have been never reports that it's one of their happiest most sought after places to live in the world to tell me just a little bit about poland because i understand even that story isn't true because here mosques are race the races past yeah absolutely portland is a beautiful pristine city and there are a lot about it that i like and i think that we can see that many of our community members deeply care about our city and that's why we've been out protesting but portland and the state of oregon have a racist past or again it was not

a slave state upon its inception but not because it did not. for any moral reasons but rather because it did the oregonian did not want black people living in the state and whether they were slave or not and because of that blacks were excluded from the state of oregon for a very long time there are still deeds to people's houses that say that they cannot be sold to people that are black that is obviously not enforceable because the interpretations of the constitution now but those deeds exist and there's a lot of races history here not just of exclusion but then also of a lack of infrastructure as black communities have flooded in there and that's because of that and then we see gentrification and disparate police scene that occurs in portland just as many cities in america. well what do you think you are democrat of what nancy pelosi said that trump was turning it into a banal or

a republic i mean i mean that and itself is a strange phrase to use i can play because it is redolent of us empire in that your hemisphere with you he with. and then trump is suggesting that your period they try to tell you live in a banana republic that's what they say these pictures show that's what these federal forces in poland mean. when i think it's important to know this is just a small part of. the entire city is not under siege but i do fear about what this could look like in other cities i do fear about what impact it can have on the election or even our ability to have an election as you know the city is definitely largely democrat and if cities are turned into war zones in the heart of their cities across the country come november it makes it a lot harder to especially at a time in which many places do not have mail in voting and so i do wary about the

impacts but i do think that it is also still important to know 'd that this is not having a huge every day effect on every single person's life in portland but i do think that if elected officials both locally and at the national level such as nancy pelosi don't do more to protect cities from this sort of an amazing that we could be in a situation that might not necessarily be a banana or banana republic but does look a lot like fascism. well. the donald trump says of the mail in voting system means that you might not even have elections in november you did it him you did imply that for for getting the. trump stuff there is some state level responsibility that needs to be taken because ted wheel has been seen as some kind of hero he was hit by a chair gas unselfishly a mayor there is he to blame partly as well because he said the state security

forces were there before the federal troops and and they too were not policing the demonstrations as they should be mean. i think ted we are fully to blame because there are a lot of steps that could have been taken to prevent this sort of federal invasion as i said there were 50 some odd days of protests prior to dharma chum's invasion in those protests had nothing to do with donald trump but it's had to do with our local police and those protests where tear gas in and be in and arrested just the same as the federal officers had been doing so what i would have said is that if ted wheeler would have stood with his people from the beginning if he would have been al in the streets with his own people from the beginning we would have not been in this situation had he not been trying to demonize protesters himself using the same rhetoric that we had talked about earlier about there being violent and

are kissin outside agitators and trying to quell protests himself we would not be in this situation and if he had just simply listened to the demands of the community and how we wanted to reform in the fund in reallocate funds from violent policing into our community at a time during a pandemic where our community needs those files if he had done all of those things we would have seen 50 something days of protest and that's the federal officers would have not come in so yes he did stand they get tear gassed one single day but his own police department threatened to use tear gas and against those same protesters once he had left that night and had also used tear gas and continue to use tear gas against protesters in conjunction with donald trump federal officers well u.n. permanent security council members china russia britain france then are raising this at the u.n. security council and your top law officer in your country bill maher he said your

fellow activists are using tasers pellet guns all manner of ammunition against law enforcement that's that's the view of your top law officer in your country. i go with hesitate to think that he truly believes that and if he does he is having bad information. ask him to maybe attend these protests and see how peaceful they are we see things like people cooking their 247 and feeding in our houses community we see people just standing there are signs and chanting in so incredibly nonviolent protest that has been cracked down on i think so that images of chaos can be seen in that bureau can then be used for damage shams reelection bid to say that this is the rylan democrats and this is what is coming if you vote for joe biden. but this is trump's america right now in the violence in the chaos that

we're seeing is being ensued by his federal police force as well as local police forces well they're finally joe biden the contender democrat contender in november presumed contender hasn't even been to poland why should anyone in portland expect things to be different if joe biden is the president given well on racial issues he's known of course for opposing the segregation of schools in his background and his past. i think joe biden definitely has a lot of work to do when it comes to race and that but the thing is i believe that he is willing to put in that where can i don't know i think we've seen 4 years of donald trump in a way he is willing to do and i believe that his presidency is an existential crisis but again if the federal troops leave it doesn't matter if joe biden were to send them back or if damage which is send them back we will still see protests in cities across america because. of these protests the death of george floyd as well

as the reminder of all the deaths that have occurred in portland or in play in cities across the country and those usually were happening at state and local levels and they happened during obama's presidency that and during times presidency so there's something very broken with our policing system and regardless of who the president is we have a lot of work as a nation to reconcile that right mcalary stay safe thank you so much for being on the program. thank you i appreciate it thanks for having me after the break the man who is leading one of the for this to explorations in human history tells us just how high the stakes are when it comes to a little king the secrets of the universe all this all coming on part 2 of going underground. the end of a love story will tensions in the u.s. german relationship determine the fate of nato if elected will show by america's

version of the soviet ruler plenty of it. was a pandemic no certainly no blood is just blind to nationalities. has emerged with the we do a back seat world beat's to. people. judge you. come in every crisis with this sentence. we can do better we should. everyone is contributing each of our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenge is creating the response has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together.

thank you all for. us to come down to mars continue the perseverence of humanity want to get a generation of robotic explorers to the red planet. welcome back well in the past few days while we've been on lockdown other people have been going to outer space joining me now from boulder in colorado is alan stern who's been working on a project to the farthest reaches of space alan there thanks so much for joining us just tell us 1st about the launch on thursday and what the mission is yeah and nasa launched its latest moore's rover in the water twit perfectly and the spacecraft has already made contact with the earth and seems to be in good health and is on

the on course well and he's in february and this is really different because this rover is going to cash samples around surface of mars for another mission to curry . in return to the earth later in the twenty's and how long is it going to take for all of. well it's probably going to be most of the decade is going to. return mission hasn't yet been started so they'll get that under way and i think now that this is their launch and what's it like as a scientist working these things out on such big time spans i mean i know you work with jeff bezos blue origin here he was testifying in congress there are you you work with so many different private companies but you're working on time scales are 10 years 20 years longer. yes or the mission stay for a long time to take a long time to get funded and then we have to design and build them and then fly them across these enormous distances the solar system so it's all about delayed

gratification and of course the usual questions of nasser's mean asked since if inception is it worth it what's the point maybe you better remind some of our audience about the side effects of what seems like as a tearing expeditions to far off places well to the contrary of course the development of space and space exploration as probably changed our world countless ways me take your i phone. your smartphone whatever it might be that space technology take that g.d.s. that you use for location for mapping for knowing where you are now space technology and then look at the entire tech economy which is fueled by the inspiration of children who want to grow up and be engineers scientists largely because they get hooked on tech through seeing space missions that inspire you see anyone can say that it was

a pride of the united states the space program by nasa do you think the millennium inclined towards it because of all the private funds seeping in there it's less about the united states and more about these private companies and people every more suspicion of private companies being involved in space than that the u.s. a as a nation. well i think the introduction of private space flight has been a tremendous boon for innovation in for driving costs down and that lets us get more done and most of these private companies are after all currently in the united states we're just beginning to see a european wave of private space flight launch companies eccentric and i can't wait to see that flower. but i mean are there dangers in that there were some reports that when the space shuttle tragically blew up it was because of private outsourcing of space flight i mean on this mission that you're working on presumably it will government funding there's no private elements to it well the

new horizons mission is a nasa mission it's really funded by nasa which is a arm of our federal government and why do you think that congress is mean reluctant to sign off on money that trump wanted to go i think i understand jumper made a request for $25200000.00 for nasa the house not liking any is monday in political . parties and issues on the hill that tell you scientists don't really concern yourself with but vaguely understand they're going to impact your missions yeah well actually in our country space exploration is is supported by both major parties and they're arguing about the last 10 percent of nasa budget not the basic night and in fact both presidential candidates have come out and endorsed continue tuman exploration continue robotic exploration studies of the earth are so important that we do from space and i think the level of disagreement is down at that its sales i'd like to see

a higher budget but we'll have to see how that turns out and just remind us all so i guess why it's important to actually go to these places rather than use radio telescopes arrays of telescopes here on earth or even space telescopes yeah well it's simple the telescopes even the very largest ones really can't produce the kind of detail that we need in order to understand these worlds and it's only by going there and bringing the cameras up close if we can understand it yalit gee if we can sample their happiness for years and we can search for signs of underwater underground oceans and evidence for astrobiology for a life that may have arisen elsewhere in the city such as saying yes i do is adelaide evidence it has paid dividends before this kind of going to the place rather than using telescopes. absolutely and you know probably the biggest did it is the inspiration that it it's it's really human beings at our best only human

beings explore only human beings create new knowledge and i think space exploration is probably the best example of that you know time or some animals are going to wonder about me basically the big geopolitical stories involving space are about space forces don't try wanting to stop militarization of space worries in nature a nation press about china going to the dark side of the moon for the 1st time of course china and the u.a.e. going to maz what do you make of these militarization stories i presume there's nothing military about this mission is actually nothing military about what nasa does in terms of science missions like new horizons but you know the militarization of stay started in the 1950 s. and sixty's and. early as the early 2000 the chinese and other countries were

conducting any satellite weapons tests and it's unfortunate that space is now with rice but like every other domain for seats away and it's just another place as human beings operate and it's a place where we need to have our differences at least yeah russia had to deny that it was involved in some kind of satellite warfare in the past few days but can you understand why people are going to be suspicious of missions like this and certainly do you realize that some of your future funding could to be siphoned off to more military escapades rather than your pure scientific research. or not very worried about that because to the contrary although that space is the notarized for decades the nasa budget has been stable if not growing over that time and i think that the public civilian space program and now the entree of commercial companies

are are really showing that that's the way that humans need to become a multi planet species expand into the solar system for economic good for new knowledge for inspiration and frankly. in some respects because it's what we do it's it's how human beings set ourselves apart from all the other species on the earth we are explorers will you mention those private private entities but as i said you work for jeff bezos a space company for a while you've done a lot of private work actually the public all are arguably is more and more worried about these causing monopoly companies having dominance over markets here on planet earth and presumably the natural worry is that they're going to start trying to monopolize space who knows mining for minerals in space why this emphasis and why your approval of private corporations who are being called out here on earth and

call us for abusing their positions allegedly why do you want them to go into space . well let me say to begin that i don't know of any instance of. the united states congress that's using private companies abusing their position in space that may be true on the earth and it may be true with for example the internet i don't know of any such instances space and what private space investment is doing is creating tremendous weight of innovation like we saw when computers went from rare and expensive to routine and inexpensive because the developer the p.c. we're seeing developing a small innovative satellite systems low cost reusable launch all of this is helping us explore do more science and expands humans into the cosmos in ways we couldn't when it was a locally government monopoly space program. yeah you know that the pure science was done a publicly funded universities the pure innovation fanny's are being done to show

that it is public funding that has created core research you mentioned the technology of an i phone it's not me is private companies or anything a private company siphoned off whole that public taxpayer money funded research and try to privately capitalize off. here i have to disagree with you and i'll give you a specific example private companies are now launching large numbers of satellites to study the earth the climate climate change and nasa the premier space agency on the planet is behind datasets from those companies because they can't get it any other way because they're the private companies are producing valuable datasets to the scientific community that the government satellites are not producing and i think they're voting with their feet and showing that this wave of innovation and this explosion of new applications for space is carving. time have a lot of money just vinyl and then the kuyper belt itself i mean people will know

that one day pluto has a plan of the next it is and why is it being so much confusion and will this mission clear up what is going on at that far end of the solar system that seems to from year to year decade to decade change the textbooks have to change. well in fact new horizons has really written the textbook from scratch on this most distant part of the solar system the 1st exploration of the pluto system the 1st exploration of the quaker belt a vast array of discoveries including possibility that pluto even harder was a vast ocean larger than the earth's oceans. and you know we're learning so much through through ground based telescopes and space missions their view of what a planet is has changed at 1st we thought there were only the 9 and then we discovered so many more in our own solar system and then other solar systems around faraway stars the strong words got a little bit afraid of that thought that the numbers were too big we should

legislate by voting what is and what isn't a planet but the real experts the people in my field and planetary science never really paid attention to that you can see that in the scientific literature at scientific meetings where planets like cluedo are referred to as planets by the experts every single day and i think the astronomers are a little bit still licking their wounds from that state. when he come back on about this mission if we get the images thank you so much that fit for this lump an edition of going on the ground what the next show on wednesday with legendary oscar winning film director all of 5 and faith faith.

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if we really need to realize that we need each other. welcome to our viewers from around the world live from central london this is all to u.k. . swathes of northern england stay locked down as the covert 19 infection rate a major incident declared in greater manchester giving police the power to bring in the we hear from a virus expert. basis not be sure let's stop. this well let's that we should remember. companies say millions of employees are going to return to the office despite the prime minister's call to get stuff back to work.

on the prime council's back to the lock down levels as the london met wants further lock down easing along with the budget cuts could escalate the situation i'll be speaking to a security expert. also on the debate freedoms at universities maybe risk is a survey shows upright citizen right wingers feel they need to censor themselves i'll be talking to us from social policy at university. localised coronavirus lockdowns continue across northern england with greater manchester declaring a major incident as cases rise it puts the region on an alert level similar to terror attacks or natural disasters and he joins me now with more on this so

why has the local authority taken such a drastic step. what we've been seeing in the greater manchester area in the northwest of england has been an escalating transmission rate to particularly in areas like blackburn oldham which are close to manchester and as a result of that these emergency measures being put in place people over the weekend not being allowed to visit in large numbers with each other for example to visit each other particularly in each of those homes and so as a result of that the look at the result of those rising rates this i'm a major incident has been 'd that the cat now the great amounts to combine authority have said that this actually helps them it boosts their capabilities in dealing with coded 19 what exactly is a major incident well it's usually declared in response to a terror attack or a natural disaster like the floods we've seen in years gone by regions can access

extra national resources from central government police can go as far as draft in the army for support if needed and that would be something that would be unsettling for many people to see the army coming in to try to implement and impose lockdown laws but i have seen in the past the army helping out again with things like floods and so on is not this declaration is expected to see greater police enforcement of the latest measures but manchester city council say people shouldn't be alarmed now elsewhere in east lancashire in west yorkshire we also see these rules applying now all of these areas are in the north of england and it would appear the government's strategy is not to implement these types of measures all across the country but only in the hot spots the local regions where outbreaks are appearing to be on the rise and that's probably to do with them not want to take a hand it's

a nail approach and also to try to perhaps not damage the economy even further than it already has been. is there any thank you very much indeed for that updates but on air i spoke to a microbiologist dr simon clark he said despite the increased availability and testing wasn't the reason they're behind the rise in infection rates we know from international law ground that it has an effect on suppressing the number of deaths and number of infections below 0 or below what we would otherwise expect so it seems that on a localized. basis and that's been showed it less than that it will work as well it does work to do less that we should remember that are going to manchester though the major incident that seems to be more about getting results is to deal with the situation but that this whole idea of this could really terrified residents could involve. could do at the moment you've got to remember that really all was

happening is people are being told not to congregate in their homes but i guess if the numbers don't stabilize and start to decrease pretty soon then that might might be the opportunity or the expectation that there will be further restrictions imposed on population and jamie section resources might help with that but of course getting replaced beforehand will be beneficial and we've got it i'm waiting for things to happen at a massive rollout program in testing haven't we so isn't that because we're now seeing high infection rates because normal people are getting tested. well i don't think that necessarily stacks up by these are real increases i'm not aware of any situations where people who want need tests are getting them were otherwise they were but are more sure i believe that i don't think this is just down to more tests that. vala crime has soared to pre lockdown levels

across the u.k. according to the metropolitan police there were just over $19000.00 violent crimes in june in the capital above the average for that month that's over 2000 more than in february when there were over 17000 reported nearly 18600 were recorded in january a similar trend has been reported by the west midlands police with its commissioner stating crime levels there had balance back to data from the region shows a violent crime hit its highest rate in at least a year this june and was 17 percent higher than last year london's mayor said it can as one of the further easing of lock down could lead to further rises combined with cuts to law enforcement and youth services during the last decade of government austerity ministers slashed police use services causing violent crime to

rise in london and across the u.k. now we are in danger of going back to square one under a new era of austerity as the government refuses to compensate londoners for the cost of cope with 19 this year also saw more killings in the capital with 17 homicides reported last month to more than last july and the highest number this year despite facing criticism over its a sturdy measures the government says it is putting enough funding into the police we have given london an unprecedented package of support and been clear about police forces across the country will get the financial backing they need to see them for corona virus pandemic we spoke to philip ingram a little earlier and also a former police officer pete williams. lockdown has suppressed crime and the organized crime gangs and the gang culture that there has been in some

parts of our large cities as they come out of locked on they're going to have to try and reestablish their control over their territories again so that's why we'll see a rise in that also to other things i think there we will see an increase in domestic violence because of the pressures that they've been under locked on more of that will hopefully be reported and dealt with and also we're seeing new causes with all of the demonstrations you know we saw the black rise matter protests being hijacked by those that just want to commit violence and all of that together is going to increase the statistics and plenty of crying going underground an effect all that well online i suppose because of the virus and 3rd are related scams huge amount going online it's all it's always been online i think the last that i read by volume it hasn't increased dramatically but it's focused self very quickly on to corona virus related scams and issues that are out there and the organized

criminals know that that is an area that the police are weak on and they're exploiting that as much as they possibly can to bounce back if it can turn a bit like that doesn't surprise me because it's probably returning to some still so normal. and in that refers to that applies to crime rates of crime and crime figures as much as anything else. there is a theory out there which if so many listeners are probably aware of written by a very famous french socialist and neil. who of course says that a certain level of crime is perfectly normal in society and it shows us chill extent it is you know we are operating in healthy society now whether or not you accept that or not so obviously there are very grave concerns which you've commented upon in relation to keep the comments from the old.

well despite those local lock downs the government is pushing to get employees back at the office from today but it seems that many companies plan to defy the cols and keep staff working remotely more than 60 percent of employers expect some or all of their staff to carry on at home according to the british chambers of commerce among those companies and that west group rolls royce scottish and southern energy b.p. and viva critics are concerned that city centers will become ghost towns if many continue to work from home or boris johnson gave bosses the power to tell them to return to the office instead of government telling people to work from home we're going to give employers more discretion and ask them to make decisions about how their staff who work safely. meanwhile the government's help to help out scheme to tempt the public back to restaurants and cafes and revive the hospitality sector got underway today don is going to 50 percent discount in participating outlets monday to wednesday capped at 10 pounds per person critics say the scheme is over

complicated and could lead to confusion as it covers only food an alcoholic drinks we got reaction from venues and the public. really nothing you. can think it's something that's encouraging things you want to come out still be able to save money where it might if they don't let's get right thinking about it be able to patronize and see if. i was right steve but we just want to walk you know. because of these things i think it's a very good idea because we were going to look for the front end. and i can see being from god now in the rest and some sense substance itself. so that the sucking up the existing ones survive and i lack of restroom i notice that you have to scuff things it's getting hot i think so on one level it's really noisy

older people coming out of houses and even stuff on the other hand i do feel like it's a common one shot are we going to get the middle classes out nor i saw a level of danger which is still kind of person so it's a kind of way that presumably the base wall actually i don't know how much it will help the economy. you know i think it's in many ways kind of ideological or very for economic. still to come this hour on our team leading the think tank the fields of wealth disparity as noted across the country in terms of earnings has increased in terms of property and all the finances to get reaction from an economist. academic freedom to give us maybe a risk a survey shows a flexitarian academics feel they need a sense of themselves we have for whom both sides of the debate.

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dares thinks. we dare to ask. a man named sources claim documents related to u.s. u.k. trade negotiations were acquired after russian hackers intercepted the email account of former trade minister liam fox the documents were brandished by former labor leader gerry called and during the last election campaign last month the

government said they are almost certainly the result of hacking by so-called russian actors is going to reuters the sources claim the documents were stolen from the former trade minister e-mail account last year it has strongly denied election interference the cabinet office refused to comment due to the only going criminal investigation into the missing link between 2 countries. the truth of recently undisclosed court papers has revealed that a rogue british special forces unit may have been responsible for the murder of more than 33 civilians in afghanistan back in 2011 now a judge is demanding that britain's defense secretary testify as to why this evidence was not used earlier in high court proceedings on the case that it was dusty has been. but i'm here at the high court in london while the trial is set to continue into allegations of crimes against humanity committed by a rogue s.a.'s unit of the british army in the keep ation of afghanistan they're accused of executing innocent civilians now according to the fox

a q sions accusations around $33.00 civilians were killed during 11 at night missions in afghanistan's villages it's being described as assassinations against innocent civilians by afghan specialist forces and all of this information has been revealed by a cache of secret documents that came to light and were obtained by the sunday times it's all part of a wider case from this group isis for a yahoo is bringing this fight to try and get an independent investigation into the killings of his relatives. are going. going going. going. going going.

going. going. in 24 t. in the allegations of this quadruple murder was passed on to the specialist investigation into the branch of the royal military police but at the time it wasn't deemed serious or important enough to investigate further despite the s.a.'s soldiers involved claimed this collective amnesia package also be interpreted as a agreement to a pact of silence and even at the time the s.a.'s soldiers they pull this information forward and those higher up in the ranks the commanders raise eyebrows about this so-called evidence that people that were killed were in possession of a k 47 and even grenades given those. come on said that they did not pose a threat nor were they are engaging in combat activity nor were they in possession of these weapons they were described as being as such north of this has a pattern of clearly having impossible odds according to these documents and so all

of that brings into question allegations of now war crimes of course the united nations' definition of war crimes based on the geneva conventions humanitarian law describes intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities now the former director of the prosecutions he's even said that there is a case now to be answered for when it comes to walk runs it is bad enough if british soldiers were systematically murdering civilians but this is compounded if superior officers and government officials deliberately fail to investigate suspected war crimes and then try to conceal the evidence is the ministry of defense refuse to comment on these allegations but now in light of this cache of secret documents coming to light they're now saying that there is potentially a case to be risky this is not new evidence and this historical case has already

been independently investigated by the royal military police. these documents were considered as part of the independent investigations which concluded there was insufficient evidence to refer the case for prosecution very interestingly this evidence has been withheld from the legal proceedings prior to the one that continues but prompting the judge to even demand that there's a full explanation from ben wallace who is the defense secretary here in the united kingdom but unsurprisingly then given this cache of secret documents it all raises further questions about whether or not there is a case of war crimes to be answered for during the occupation in afghanistan. the wealth divide is shrinking across britain when it comes to monthly earnings but why would name when property and other assets are taken into account the institute for fiscal studies as the difference between earnings in london and the rest of the country has decreased since the beginning of the millennium wages group more slowly

in the capital only rising by just over one percent since 2002 but now housing trends are driving inequality across the country property and otherworld has increased in london by 150 percent whereas in the northeast it's gone up by just 3 percent. is concerned that the pandemic would only exacerbate the current trends across the u.k. but the treasury says that this gives the government an opportunity to level up communities in one across party house of lords committees are just radical changes need to be made to universal credit by injecting 8000000000 pounds into the system the committee particularly criticised the 5 week waiting period when it comes to the ucas housing inequalities international economics professor keith pilbeam thinks that the relative boom in the capital is to blame. it's baby a dog and the southeast factor on the wealth side when you look at property because property price we've got quite substantially in those regions and not in the north so if you are lucky property out there you become rich you know many people become

richer actually sitting on their houses it on the moon what they actually what was happening now though because of the pandemic we hear talk of a resetting of the property and housing market which of course is based on confidence and there's very little of that at the moment although there is a sense as a slight mini boom going on a moment but is unsustainable. well there's not many boom going on that's estate agent talk because it's just not true and definitely at the top end of the market it's taken a hefty hit because you know really wealthy people and people just can't put those kind of money to wealthy people are struggling a bit debit because they've got big businesses under pressure and their bonuses are going out the window and some of them attack you wage cuts so don't believe what the estate agents say the laws committee saying that universal credit needs an overhaul huge amount of money being injected into that the system is only just come on line isn't it well i mean that britain for you is the bureaucracy that just introduced the gates is that now they want to change it i mean you couldn't make it

up so what we've got to do is try to keep this new system and make it work better there's nothing wrong with the system. is the administration and of course the government is now looking for every penny it can because it's been way too generous with the skate. and finally economic freedoms universities could be on the far as a survey shows a brit's it leaning academics feel that they need to censor what they teach and discuss the policy exchange study of $800.00 current and former staffers from just over half of respondents would feel comfortable sitting for lunch or a meeting with colleagues who backs the campaign for britain to leave the e.u. that's why all nearly all remain backing academics feel comfortable expressing their views publicly but their brakes are to counterparts are likely to solve sense of their views in discussions due to fear of consequences for their careers. the challenge today is a serious threat to academic freedom may now arise from within universities this

internal threat vibes from the way that some of the university both students and faculty members relate to others on campus being willing to penalise them on the basis of their perceived or actual political views a number of right leaning thinkers have been no platform from universities in recent years including canadian professor jordan peterson german politician alice videl and former adviser steve bannon the government promised to enforce freedom of speech but the general secretary of the university and college union claimed that the latest findings were false and that academic freedom is nots under threat and i discussed this with international politics expert dr lee jones and spiked contributor fraser myers. we see often in the new stereo these kind of you know quite high catching cases of no platforming speakers being and from taking arts in in in in and in talks we see you know academics to us and censored sometimes unable to carry out certain controversial research but i think what's important about this

particular report is that it highlights that that is just the tip of the iceberg and that there is a great deal of self-censorship going on in academia where you know people who might have views that go across the kind of cross the kind of academical of the docs you feel as if they can't speak out the report doesn't actually focus on bret's alone it does use that as an example and it finds of course that remains supporting people feel free to speak. and then leave supports it's and that's not surprising at all given that the vast majority of academics back remain and that actually reflects findings by one of the report's authors about students too that students also felt free to speak up with 4 main supporters and not if they were leap supported the report is not simply about bret's it it also asks about the left discriminating against rightwing academics that like discriminating against leftwing academics. and use the example of transgender issues that whilst i have to

say though that many university staff are traditionally left leaning and right wingers appear to be few and far between well not traditionally traditionally there was a balance if you go back to the 1980s so it's roughly equal split on left and right and then it's become a predominately left wing from the last couple of decades of political views have become more aligned to education more educated you are the more left leaning you tend to be and so that's true across many of the professions in general you get the sense that academics have decided whether a certain area of research is an appropriate or not based on you know they're kind of preordained political conclusions when you know you know academia is about the search for the truth and that has to be unencumbered by you know it's like little correctness or whether an idea might be a popular i mean there has been there have been cases for instance i think back to james cast you know a psychotherapist who was told he was not allowed to do research into the phenomenon of the transitioning and his university gave the reasoning that because

it would not be politically correct and people might be offended and his research might be criticised on social media so you know what we really need is to create a culture of free speech where academics feel that they can express not only their own views freely but look into areas writ of research that might lead to surprising or perhaps unpopular conclusions and that's up to universities and indeed student unions because obviously you know the government wants to play a role in all of this we know they want to clamp down on what they see as issues of 3 speech yeah i think that's true but that is viewed by a lot of the left wing proponents on campus as being very hypocritical because of course the government also chills free speech on campus through the prevent duty. which induces a lot of concern around any discussion of islam terrorism or extreme. of any sort however one wants to define that and that itself is

a big chilling effect so the problem with the free speech debate on campus it is that getting wrapped up into a generalized culture of war that we've imported from the united states free speech should be the point neutral you know it's not a let it shouldn't be a left right issue and i think you know least correct there is i think there can be a danger with what the government is trying to doing to do it where you have in effect what i think is a contradiction in terms of thing that was not like a free speech crackdown which doesn't make any real sense to me of a professor of social policy did raheen and thinks the claims of free speech on campuses under threat are over exaggerated. quite frankly i think this report is hocus pocus and therefore you conclusions and try to produce the evidence to support those sold out of questions about their methodology out questions about their sample i have questions about why they had so many retired academics included in their sample so actually in terms of high academics mark i think that report

would be a good study of saying look at the evidence look at the conclusions they are reliable do you think they're valid argument these conclusions of p.o.d. one topic mention the causes breaks in this report that something you and i have talked about a lot and we will carry on talking about a lot in the near future but can being right mean a war really kill an academic career. and i think the interesting thing that this report actually says is those people who study the economic evidence are less likely to support brackets well why is that it's because as we have talked about many times the evidence and academics are interested in the apple it's not our job to talk to the people that are job to tell people i think it's not out of $0.02 check their political ideology if they want to support x. it that's absolutely fine way wouldn't they but what we do is try to look at the evidence and say words the evidence to suggest this will lead to better outcomes so

for example as the report acknowledges. the evidence suggests that perhaps it will not be good for the u.k. in the short term nor the long term and indeed it would be technically bad for a northern ireland will we have unfettered access to the e.u. you know we vote well we have a close relationship with the european union no we vote well because of economic and political instability yes this is likely to lead to the breakup of the u.k. well we don't know but we certainly know it has caused at divisions are right the future of t.v. that's order news from us for today our colleagues at america will take over from the top of the hour from all of us here in westminster have a great evening. join

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