tv Cross Talk RT August 5, 2020 6:30am-7:01am EDT
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no i wouldn't think so in a reason why is because he was down in the polls whenever he ran against him reclaiming and it's not double digits like this i'm sorry yeah i mean still going to close down the polls regardless of how much you're down i think what they have to remember is he's running against joe biden i mean he's in my opinion or one of the most racist politicians and the entire united states and when you think about his history and politician if he you know out of space america and then what he what he did and why he was in the senate in 2 he would have probably you know how barack obama fix america by the fact that he feels like right now in these times of things something that he feels is broken in my opinion asinine i think trump is going to win this election he's running against joe biden who my opinion that's not a great candy for office to present a united states where i mean should i say i said in my introduction when you're mean we look at the history of the presidency the likelihood of being reelected the incumbent being reelected is quite high ok but obviously exceptions when it's
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a trend here and donald trump isn't really. duplicating that trend again the same question to you it seems to me it's much more a referendum on the occupant in the white house and there's almost nothing to do with joe biden you're free to disagree obviously go ahead and disagree that what we are seeing with president trump is a president she has aggressively gone against the grain of all things when it comes to moralistic being someone who is seen as presidential she is taking this role of big enough to work terry and 1st is someone who actually understands what a democracy is how it functions and even has ever read the constitution what we're seeing with joe biden is someone who they think that america 1st and foremost issue super joe biden is local jail to a lot of people he someone she was part of the most successful democratic administration the past 6 years and he's also someone shuhada knows how to unite unite. nation and right now in the midst of
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a global pandemic in the midst of an economic crisis he is someone who is also waded through an economic crisis before he is the orchestrator along with president obama of the relief packages after the crash of 2008 so i think that with him people are seeing someone who is in stark contrast to what presidential has doing not only in terms of unification but also someone who is not making flat out racist statements someone who is not objectifying women someone who is not out here being the antithesis to all things democracy and all things democratic and i think that that is something that speaks more to people than anything else is their referendum on donald trump absolutely but i think that just by saying that that is the only reason or you know part and parcel black people are getting out to vote i think that that is a little bit too broad of a statement made several mistakes over and over and over again to be someone who believes wholeheartedly in what he's doing small business had so many unborn errors it is remarkable ok but let me let me stay with you here let me rephrase it here
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joe biden just as it is likable as hillary clinton i think that's what it gets down to because trump hasn't been able to put a label on joe biden that sticks because like you said he has a likability quotient that is very difficult to challenge and i think he's an empty suit and i don't see anything to be proud of when the in the obama administration but most importantly joe is these not only likable joe react to the last of those. disagree with that and as well joe biden is not a likable candidate i mean when you talk about the contrast between president trump and him you know you know his growth limon you have to look at joe biden his grown up children and as something that plays a huge part in whether people especially in a black or latino community to vote for him especially you know with that crime bill is still pending on the books i mean he's going to have to do some type of you mustn't have a restitution or in a set of eyes
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a mass incarceration for black america and he's going to have to explain how why he so easily had he talked he would children. ok i'm ok but then i think i've got standard you can accuse donald trump of the same thing and you know if and that can be an element and maybe that is something that will make people think or they pull the lever but that has nothing to do really with policy and that's what i really want to stay with here this character defamation stuff i guess and doesn't move the needle i don't think with anyone here michel let me go to you you know policy wise i mean if you look at trump in the poll he started he started collapsing when to connote coronavirus and his administration's response to it and i don't in my opinion and i'm a conservative joe don't misunderstand i'm a conservative ok but it seems to me then they're playing catch up now in trying to deal with this pandemic and of course it has been grossly politicized by all sides
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go ahead in washington. i think that you make a very good point up until corona virus hit and we saw all president trump go from having daily briefings to now pausing and having no briefings to coming back and having more briefings his disillusionment and excitement about a drug that has been proven time and time again not to work in protecting people against coronavirus or actually saving lives and hydroxy cliquish him making several statements about not wearing a mask and himself not modeling wearing a mask and just being someone to ignore it even his own task force when it came to the steps necessary to reopen schools when it came to the steps necessary to ensure that everyone had the p.p.t. that they needed were watching time and time again in a global crisis where the president needs to be someone who is a unifier but also someone who pays attention to and understands the science we're seeing this president not do that and utilize his isolation his policies not only to pull out a lot of the a lot of the unifying missions when it comes to health care we see what he how his
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reaction is with the world health organization we see him not listening to other nations state leaders who have come together on trying to fight coronavirus is a united front because of the populism that this president exemplifies because of his isolationist policies you cannot see the forest for the trees and it is really causing more and more people to die we just saw a report what last week that showcased how initially he was absolutely fine with not following a lot of the guidelines or not even talking about them because he thought that the states that were going to be the most affected or states they were democrat democratically won when you assume that people can die and democratic led states and you can just blame governors that's a problem he's present the united states not just president of the red states ok joe we just heard something that i want to explore because something that i've been thinking about a lot i think that all of us would agree that trump rand is a populist in 2016 and he won ok he won the only needed in the toral votes to win the presidency here ok. joe has governed as
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a populist because i don't think he has. you know what i don't think there is any correct way to govern especially during a time like coronavirus. can do a better job than just agree with that that's when you see real leadership real leadership when you have a challenge for all the country for every citizen irrespective of what letter you put at the end of your last name or you have to be a leader of all. absolutely and i absolutely agree with that and like i said before there are things that he could have done better there are things that his ministration have done better especially one time like coronavirus but i will say this the media doesn't give him a fair shot i mean when he tries to shut down travel to foreign countries they call them a race they call them all types of names you know and you can make that assumption and he can blame governors from things that are happening in state but less you've got a for you as an example gavin newsom shut down our statements. gavin newsome did you
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know a $1000000000.00 do you get mass in china you know and so when you look at these type of bans when you consider misinformation specially when it comes to where in mass what type of mass we are if mass even a fact if you know you have to put that on the head of the leadership now president trump has his ideals are how he feels things should go just like every other governor not in their day when it comes to managing states the overall you know leadership by the over 'd on the already comes from a governor so i have been this agree with mrs cross on that when the governors are there has a distaste president trying to make recommendations but he controls what happens federally each individual state. let's go back to. washington are you disappointed how this pandemic and the reaction to it has been so politicized because you know all lives are at stake right here and it really pains me when we talk about red states and blue states we're dealing with a pandemic because a pat the pen demi doesn't discriminate between. red and blue states here in is
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there any neutral ground on this series and there's nothing there's no neutral ground in american politics right now go ahead no absolutely and you're right the pandemic doesn't discriminate the policies happen to there are very few policies across this country that are race neutral and we know that over time we've seen it extrapolated across the whole where there are blacks latinos who consistently are hit hardest when things like this pandemic occur or any type of economic upheaval but when it comes specifically to coronavirus the expectation was that from the top and the president is at the top that you would have a leader who was able to get a piece by piece plan and a strategy around how states would handle this be in constant contact with state leadership give a guy point because you are the leader of the greatest nation on earth you are that leadership model you're supposed to model yourself after what you would expect citizens to do and what we saw time and time again was trump mistake those
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opportunities we saw him stand in front of audiences and just not tell the truth we saw him ignore the science we saw him speak against things that his own pandemic task force what is giving other alternative information for that's a problem because it will lacked a lot of trust it made people confused the reason why we have such a push against mass wearing masks right now is because the president for the longest did not wear them and he actually tweeted out aggression and support for those who were marching in stomping on state capitals with weapons so that they didn't have to wear them so when we see a president take those types of names in the wrong direction and we consistently see the coronavirus cases up to over and over and over again it begs the question are we a leaderless nation and you're right i think you said this a few moments ago moments of crisis or when you see true leaders rise what we've seen is this president all over and over again at a time where in all honesty the whole world is seeing
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a crisis in the united states is typically. where people look for motivations where people look for this guy post and right now that's just not what we're seeing we're seeing countries bar the united states in our state if you look around the world the united states is a lack of is one of the worst performers in dealing with is endemic are ok my far and the whole the whole issue of opening up of schools it's really only in the u.s. everyone else is moving on you're right i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break now but that's your break we'll continue our discussion on trump's reelection stay with our. other pandemic no certainly no borders just flying to nationalities.
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has emerged with the repeal we don't look like a whole world to be. judged as coming every crisis with a sentence. we can do better we should know better. everyone is contributing each of our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. a short time ago an american airplane. hiroshima.
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standing up kind any. girl can send. our own feelings into your. chin it's. like most americans growing up after the war the bombs were a great thing they ended the war they say hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and that's what my grandfather always said was his reason for the decision. truman was hoping for a dual strategy one was to drop the bombs and hope that japan would surrender their number to the americans were trying to send a message to the soviet union and there was american poor planning in october 145 in chosen 20 targets in russia.
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you cannot be both with the yeah you're right. i am. welcome to cross the we're all things are considered i'm purely beltran mind you we're discussing trump's reelection campaign. ok let's go back to los angeles joe let's look at leave the economic reaction to the pandemic here. personally as a conservative i'm very disappointed that the white house hasn't taken the lead and dealing i mean 1st of all we had the 1st round of stimulus bailout and of course it
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went to some of the richest people in the world people that didn't even need the money ok and that goes across the board whatever your political affiliations it's the one percent they got relief ok the stock market so far is ok what i'm really upset is that you know mix mitch mcconnell he comes into washington for a couple weeks you know somebody might do something maybe we will maybe we won't and then we'll go on vacation here there are millions in millions of people facing a crisis right now i really cute one particularly when renting is that issue is coming up people who are not being able to pay their rent here why hasn't donald trump got into the oval office told the networks we have a national emergency and this is what i the president of the united states wants done and i don't care what you think mcconnell you better get back in your seat and
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we get to figure this out because millions and this is only going to get worse this is no movie with courtly in america you'll get a lucky it's going to be a w. in the long term ok where is that leadership right there because it seems to me that there is this is an ideal moment in this election campaign for trying to go left of by and say we're going to bail out the middle class and working class people he ran as a populist but he doesn't govern as one go ahead or i had to agree with his cross and early year when he said that our black and brown communities are economically disadvantaged and this is you know true coronavirus them before coronavirus these are some of things that we have to go through on the law every day now when you x. out come the president has in you know it's a good step as joe biden to say this is well. need to do i have a lot of questions i would like to x. and another question i would like to ask because i can't even the s. are we have to reach out so it's ministration we have actually not come you never
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visited any black and broke music show that you actually care about what it is we go to on a regular basis i mean we are aware economically disadvantaged at every every turn when it comes to education when it comes to the lack of economic development when it comes to having quality jobs in our community and when it when it comes to affordable housing or even tell you know airness of most of those communities are run by democrats yes this is absolutely correct it isn't but this you know what i'm not going to say that democrats are the problem and i will say that people who are leadership positions in the democratic party are the problem i mean i look at areas like south central los angeles the 40 there in their shoes who's been governed by maxine waters for over 40 years i mean people have gotten comfortable without getting anything from their representatives which means they fell to hold them accountable which is why many more people stand up especially young people is that enough to run for the office positions that we don't have to actually ask questions we can be the answer to these questions ok but then. what do you think what can
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donald trump to attract the support. of people of color black black communities where you are here i mean it seems to me that in there he seemed it seems to me that donald trump is kind of lost his mind this touch because he couldn't he could fight off you know this russian impeachment need crain all of that nonsense he was able to do it but when it came to business here he seems to have lost his touch it seems to me in the administration as listless and you know what really angers me going to for a conservative big conservative is that he continues to listen to these libertarians around him you know makes the regulate this good tax cut our job is done let's go home that is a recipe for a mcgovern run. style rout in november here we're done no you're not you're done for your friends and your donors but you're not done for the american people and
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and i that's what and that's why i will so sorely criticizes the administration because i don't see any proactivity concierge treatment for the rich but no we can't spend the money don't you think you spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the military all the time but you can spend it on middle america then what's the point go ahead continue joe well this is this is about leadership that we see in the inner cities on a regular basis whether to present is a democrat or republican they never stepped foot into our cities there's been very little progress on legislation that's been passed to economically empower communities of black and latino so this is something that i see on a daily basis that i know maybe no the you but i think you know to have a republican in office i mean you know spread that leadership around to the urban areas that i have no you know no no positive there is a way of people chipping or no if you have the president in some round some self
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with people concerned with the stock market that's what these worried about how start a market doing which is no litmus test to how 98 percent of the people not of states ok but is just absurd ok and i can't understand why he can't you know break out of that bubble ok and his friends are fine they're always like going to be fine ok. let's go back to washington only in your mind your supporter of joe how joe joe biden that is how do you think he would deal differently with this crisis go ahead michelle joe biden is a believer of science he is someone she will brand the policies he is someone who has she was doctor on call when it comes to understanding a lot of different things particularly like she. was in the obama administration while they were fighting zico while they were fighting a lot of several other pandemics that didn't necessarily affect america as much but
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were a part of a global strategy for other nations particularly those in africa and central america and i think that because when you have someone who understands science and that's why you need presidents and leaders who aren't people who are anti-science or anti back when you have people who understand science they respond to pain gimmicks they respond to health care crises in a different issues as you claim marty been says it's ok to protests black lives matter but where's the science and math well we've also seen that those protesters in a bag in a largely tested negative for coke at 19 so you know they move differently out i mean we know that those individuals did not make over 1000 and then but with the exception because that's not scientific best political what it is though is when you are in a nation that consistently buries black bodies and you don't see any type of restitution nor do you see any type of change do you not think and i know this because my grandparents a participant in the study there is always a holes i'm going to do lighting for your rights to having
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a certain level of power and ability to take advantage of your civil rights to have those things honored when you see black men and women die at the hands of police officers every day there's only so much energy or social media marriage will deny those people who are willing to take any of this treatment that's absolutely absolutely true that is absolutely not true most black people that are murdered in the united states are murdered by overplot people not most white people in the united states are murdered by other white people 85 percent interracial violence is not something that is just black but black it's also why don't why what is the we know that. you're making up what little exception go ahead jump in joe you make me of her you saw it in there we're going to use mrs krause analogy i mean like she said that the coronavirus move here from the outside and i suggest that we open up all the states but if we're going to use science to justify. proving that mass is actually kind of dangerous to people when they were in 24 seventh's which makes wearing masks you know appropriate as well but i mean we're going to we can go back
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to california or gavin newsom is about to release 18000 prisoners of mass effect of prisoners the mass in prison but i mean when it comes to issues like rise matter how was there for training as well as black on black crime in america i think that we as leaders have right now we have to get the black eyes matter movement to find out what is the painting to the people who figure out some type of resolution we know was painting to the people on black on black crime is a misnomer again 87 percent of crime a white community by white people there's black on black crime there's also white on white crime and i was born and raised in chicago chicago is my home so when you know chicago is there are all things going wrong i have knowledge because i will tell them what are their economic their economic issues their health there's a health care crisis that existed before coping 1000 where over 80 percent of our mental health clinics were shut down just not a level one trauma but if you're. going to go talk to somebody who is.
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not normal who just want to let you know we can talk now that these are not republican talking points down from south central l.a. they were just shooting down from the sounds that we were talking about chicago to talk about was another guy just got here is you know i'm born and raised is that you know you're not buying your hat you're going to go where you want to just problems or going south if you don't i'll be here and you're going to be there your school and eventually maybe. not will in new york in los angeles tell me how is this and the rest of the recipe is the exact same as many communities. how do i let up look i've got old police car you know what i'm saying i'm just not going to go well i'm just. curious were they all right i think that i didn't see that over time and those things are better have been studied are what over again. i think really areas we're not going to see them or do overreach of there is no one will understand what you're saying all right let me ask my last year and it's
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something a question that we're all concerned. are people going to believe the outcome of the election in november is i think this is a very worrisome thing because hillary never came to terms with 2016 and we could have the same thing happen again let's go to washington 1st in a way. you know i think that if trump loses which i am pretty sure that he will he's not going to take that he's not going to take that results that in doubt he's going to be upset he's going to talk about how vote by mail through an election and other things but i think that in general the population the american people they're going to get to the polls be aware that they vote by mail or they actually show up on election day or they early voter however they decide to do it based on what the coronavirus levels are at the time and it's going to be not only a referendum on this administration but also a sign that people want to see something new truck came in and he railed in on this economy that he called the trump economy that was supposed to save all things american and we've seen that economy tank precipitously so i think that people are
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going to get to the polls and showcase that not only person who is going to be railing against those election results is donald trump ok joe last 30 seconds you go ahead i think donald trump going to win has no more democrats going to be upset but the reality is he's been the best president that we've had a very long time and i don't enjoy is going to make it to the election not if he goes to jail for the hope the recent scandal. well that's ok i'm glad you mentioned that because i think i did see him in an embassy and d.c. and all the rest of them don't even know what that gives but a lot of people do know about joe's past and pretty please family's business dealings there but that's all the time we have here we have a fantastic discussion no one's here is on fire and we'll talk again very soon i want to think of us who are watching us here if you see him next time remember. thinking of getting
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a new puppy once we got our ship out why does he know it's still trapped in this tiny little wired we don't need a crate with him he will. freaking out into the wall when it's pretty much anywhere near. breeding dogs or caged in the into lane conditions on puppy farms i mean 67 years you know they've been locked up in cages outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the courtier the rain the snow the thunder nothing they have no protection. because the you. know it's ok. across the u.s. cruel puppy mills are supported by dog shows and pet stores most of the puppies that are coming from these large scale factory farming kind of operations are being sold in stores even joined a group businesses are involved like ogling mom santa there has been a shocking amount of organized opposition to efforts to increase the standards of
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care for dogs bred in commercial breeding facilities most of that opposition is coming from huge agricultural groups and industries that have nothing to do with jobs don't buy dog. ah go to. no shots the leg. back should lose the belt. over her extra. points your thirst for action. when i was a child small seemed wrong wrong when old girls just don't know all. the world yet to shape our disdain you can't get educated and engagement because betrayal.
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if you really need to fight to realize that we need each of. lebannon isn't mourning after some 100 people are killed and thousands more injured and a massive explosion that rocked the country's capital on tuesday a huge shock wave ripped through beirut destroying buildings and the port district leaving many residents without electricity exact cause of the disaster isn't clear though it's believed to be linked to be improper storage of explosive materials anywhere else. so you must dine on the sun we felt a boom everything turned over our hands i was moving and it felt like an earthquake suddenly this all falls on us something explodes and everything falls with it.
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