and fed up materials a season 2 in september that's it for this welcome addition of going underground though june and on wednesday for on season finale with many people make a journalist. during this year we talk about all those crazy problems out there and then during the summer we hit you with solutions that's right so lucian's and today we're going to be talking with. nose of coin floor dot dot u.k. . in august 9452 atomic bombs were dropped on the japanese cities of hiroshima and

nagasaki. to this day opinion remains divided as to the real reason behind america's decision to use nuclear weapons but with no possible military justification for dropping a bomb i have no question that there were those in the u.s. military who pursued the next and so during the planning in october of 1945 had chosen 20 targets in russia in the 70 years since the bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki countless books and films have off the many just of occasions for and arguments against dropping the avons however declassified documents give weight to the argument that the bombs were dropped not so it's a military necessity to intimidate the soviet union.

the 1st ever atomic bomb to be used in wall was in the city if there is steam on the 6th of august 945 well over 100000 citizens were killed those in the hype a sense of what instantly turned into dust while countless others died from the burns and high dose of radiation they received. over $50000.00 survivors. still live in the city each one of them has their own story to tell of the day the bomb fell and i was on my way to meet one. who is from. since. well i mean if you are beat up.

you go have. our semi-conscious good movie director music. she's saying this is. a dream honestly. she says it's given that they're ok i sound know most on nice and not happening the rest. was just a 13 year old schoolgirl that day and as i was about to find out recalling those events hasn't become any easier even after 70 years and. their character or not they are the shell that said i knew her of course only this car. now could separate spending that would never pass. the media so that the big. straight up call nanny money is so little class that when the assassin quadruped at the

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i was happy to work we had been in a long war we had been attacked by the japanese the japanese people were not nice people and i was. the policy of the united states government at that time was to subdue the nation of japan. and i was willing to do anything i could do to help that. it was president's harry s. truman who made the decision to drop the atomic bomb he'd only been in office for a little under 4 months. a short time ago an american arab by in drought to run on hiroshima and destroyed its usefulness to the enemy where this we have added

a new and revolutionary increase in destruction that has been done is the greatest achievement of our going night in science in history. here yet the grandson like of the president who decided to drop the bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki i think is going to see the legacy of. ronnie one thing to go into the ground us drop the bomb which was thousands of japanese people they built it up lacey so it was time to have your life because. of course i have to see i was kind of decisions fit his personal life as i told you was the war the job of all please be enjoyed to this day because. to be a. teacher so yeah my wife calling us from the poison source says this must be done just you know. yeah you know it's the new way

oh. did. you know. some of it is real soldiers and is this. if you feel you in your relationship with the grandfather. of the ghetto in some stories that you. you know you know and also you sociate i don't mean oh yeah no no no no no i know i understand completely when i was a kid yeah very annoying sometimes because you're a teenager and you're trying to figure out who you are you know and what you turn out to be for a lot of people as an adjunct to somebody else so they you know your grandfather was wonderful and i will i remember your grandfather and yeah yeah yeah. you know thanks. as i've gotten older know it's you know there's a legacy yeah and. you do with it what you can there's a legacy to kind of boy oh i could have. chose not to yeah i when i was in my late thirty's i kind of rediscovered my grandfather as a human being i mean i you know the history is always there.

with a sense of victory in the dollars we're already looking forward to a post-war world by the polls done conference on the 18th of july $945.00. american relations have been fairly good under roosevelt truman was an unknown quantity to stalin and this meeting marks a turning point in relations between the allies. truman at potsdam did indicate to stalin that we had a new weapon he did not specify what it was and he believed that stalin did not know and stalin's response was nonchalant which was well i hope you used to go to. again study the enemy but we now know from a variety of sources including former soviet sources is that all the knew very well what truman was talking about through his own sources in style importance to achieve not at the met one but it was to signal mr then ridicule anybody else they

would not answer in 4 months or so i was going say is useless and throwing them at the store he's got them the bomb of the real search you will do that in the beginning at the last one because it's him or and barnum swim wish so you see what . was in the curse. of. business is to ensure. its own moment's notice and. you're going to. have any cares and kind of one to 10 i stand there. every night. and you have to go. and snatch a syringe your guide. missionary.

gucci was delivering mail when a 2nd plutonium bomb called 1st month fell on nagasaki kids from the blast melted the skin on his bike and left footage of his horrific injuries has become iconic assume its hero is now a living symbol of the suffering caused by the bombs. and it is that data might. get to. where i knew that. she. met him at the commission. square. and certainly i think. you know.

this city was in the original targets for the 2nd bomb fights one was destined for the quarter but the weather was overcast a bit like today so the boxcar b. 29 changed course and headed to a secondary target nagasaki. just 3 days after hiroshima on the 9th of august the 2nd atomic bomb exploded with a destructive force of 21 killer tons of t.n.t. and killed over 70000 of the city's residents. the comprehensive fire bombing campaign conducted before the a bombs had left japan in ruins the us already had the country blockaded and could soar from food and fuel. us to keep bombing survey that was done at the end of the work concluded that the japanese would have surrendered. even if the bomb had not been used even if the invasion had not gone forward that they would have

surrendered prior to november 1st which i think was the date for operational lympics the invasion of the home islands so why did the us drop the bombs that's what historians are debating and i think that truman was hoping for a dual strategy one was to try to drop the bombs and hope that japan would surrender before the russians got in so the russians would not get all those concessions that we had promised them number one the number 2 and equally if not more important the americans were trying to send a message to the soviet union. with each country looking to cause spheres of influence after the war relations between east and west were rapidly declining to a very korea lies that euclid's poet equal to political power on the world stage and documents from as early as $945.00 suggest the allies would turning against each other. in the planning actually in october of 1945 and had chosen 20 targets in russia moscow and leningrad were also included in the target list

early on and as i understand it just from talking to some of the more planners and designate a ground 0 was to be either the kremlin itself or it was a power plant that was very close to the kremlin as the bombs got larger they would move the designated ground 0 to a point so that it would destroy more targets just with one weapon. and linton's committee just percent they said it was good it was so i'm sure you know we are political fanatic and so just know couldn't what is that about the switch with them if so could the cops that it was then you should get a book. on the. condition. and it really tryna come from thoughts and put it into school and science and

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i think that the were believed at the time to be this. general marshall who was head of the us military during the war after the war we didn't want to have to invade japan we knew we would kill many japanese and many americans would die as well. that was truman's just if occasion to save hoffa a 1000000 american lives that would otherwise have been lost if that invaded the mainland. what i don't understand is how people who have presumably studied the same documents of. different conclusions about the bombings i don't understand it either to me it's such a clear cut issue if you look at what the us intelligence was saying if you look at the comments of american leaders at the time in fact 6 of america's 75 star admiral

tim generals who got their 5th star during the war record as saying that the bomb was either militarily unnecessary morally reprehensible or both you can't come to any other conclusion and that the bomb was not necessary that the soviet invasion was going to end the war that the u.s. invasion was not going to begin till november 1st so we dropped the bomb that august 6th and august 9th and invasion is not going to take place for 3 more months why do we do it why you have to conclude that we wanted to do it. greta show me around the hiroshima peace memorial museum it brings back mixed emotions terrible memories of the bomb but also happy ones from her wedding which was held in the grounds. there is shima city government has suggested removing some of the exhibits over

concerns that children find them frightening. but chilcote doesn't think they're realistic enough. core you're not going to comment on the. study. scott. on the back. everything. is. this had some. war. cornishman in their city college so. they're sure you.

do i regret the atomic pressure and i regret we had to do it but i think we had to do it nordic and the war with a minimum loss of life if the same situation existed again exactly as there as it had back in 1945 yes i would go on i would volunteer for about some other fact i don't want to go to war. i think you were. right a memoir with. it is it's a personal it's sort of the change from i you know i like most americans born in that time and growing up after the war the bombs were a great thing they ended the war they say hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and that's what my grandfather always said was his reason for the decision to end the war and save american lives primarily that would otherwise likely be lost

in an invasion of the main islands so i went from not giving it much thought at all to. being confronted one day with with the reality that people lost their lives and in horrible ways. japan is still counting the cost of the a bombs the government's makes monthly health care payments to the survivors to help with treatment not just for the physical effects of radiation exposure but also the psychological impacts. many of them come to this clinic set up especially for the hit in hiroshima. clone that i knew some know impacts i know qatada to stay or not aggressive. one day and nothing in the law or as i said move. to stand on water go to no

quarter throw so here kyra i want to go below i thought as i've gotten to come in the next you know i'm got to take my city since course of course or southern afghanistan there's kid on the corner of me. only as. an authority all know i know you did something nice you know that. and those who. would have sang you. the i'm the one just you know. since in 2006 kids are more to your p.t.s.d. this could have more impact than your 13 the more needles on the back now your. are

the minority in this day. today don't you see. this kind of sort of school your. stuff written. after the war the japanese constitution was changed by the americans and it's remained in place ever since including 9 which prohibits japan from having its own military. well the country can still protect itself with its self defense forces including its fleets which is partly based to the american naval base in your corsica. nowhere is the american incursion more evident brita street all the haunch as it's known by the sailors is just

a stone's throw from the naval base. any time baby i have no idea what that means. is the place to go if you want a native burka or to go shopping at the army surplus store. and rock city seems to be particularly popular among your cusa because foreign guests. strike the american citizen making the most of the downtime here 8. however the u.s. base in okinawa is probably the most controversial and i suppose the sun. is home 221000 service personnel more the morning 3 of all american soldiers based in the asia pacific region and the locals want them gone.

during the end of august and seattle hunted their mommy kind of been one of these men. is that something i'm going to have. than that oh it's a death of a hiking off and on they have got to get there and one of the lot that honestly have to get there how. they're going to stop. this one of them with all of us has been mean that's if get off on all accounts. i mean you just i think you have all the hey i can pull it back i must and i. i know i didn't assume that on its own how to know that you were gonna listen to me. and i know that we will have to start next it up what i want to do this since it was that i guess is. despite the atomic bombings in japan and the united states have an amicable and

close relationship today however no incumbent u.s. president to visit to tear ashima on august saki and america's yet to receive an apology for the surprise attack on pearl harbor. truman lived until he was 88 and stood by his decision to drop the atomic bombs to the day he died. so you don't think there will be this or no i don't think there will be i don't you know there's no harm in talking about it and i don't know that will ever be an apology maybe the 2 countries can find language that that that brings them together to say you know we acknowledge that serious hurt is done on both sides and we we own that and we are going forward it doesn't feel at this point that it will ever be a flat out apology from the u.s. to japan or the other way around i don't know that the united states has ever asked japan for an apology for pearl harbor or that they've offered it so what do you think about america no no no you got the demo then this summer i guess you call the

. turning you were in the quarter in a circle cap and you can let me. know although i sound like that go to the way here. yes not going to. set up with the one you know 2nd we are throwing them all. now. well. i can last. for. following the atomic bombing of 2 cities over 300000 japanese lost their lives. plans to attack the us assad actually being carried out in which 20 cities with targeted including population centers like moscow leningrad and. the number of

lives lost would have been in the millions. fortunately that never happened but it did mark the start of a new era the cold war. during that era we talk about all those crazy problems out there and then during the summer we deal with solutions that's right so lucian's and today we're going to be talking with the no 0 of coins floor dot. u.k. .

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