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they are cornering on the banks to hold on on related activities even amazon saying it's time to change course and to play a more responsible role in advancing like. profits these financial institutions are morally responsible for what their money is used for in terms of facilitating the flow of commodities that are highly impacting on indigenous people other person i mean there are human i mean in a certain sense they should you could look at it like the ivory trade you know maybe they're not you know in the past these banks were going to join the elephants but there are so in the fall i agree there are implicit so the end of the day things are very simplistic and. oil and gas industry on indigenous peoples on the east high gritty of the streets. well this is a snapshot of what we're talking about to take it across so much more of it from us online r.t. dot com and various social media too if you get a minutes check it out here it's 7 30 in the morning moscow time kevin owen
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reporting. just reminds me to say we have a great day. so we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is on all sides very dramatic to follow only i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk.
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welcome to alex i mean sure we're doing this global pandemic i'll be shipped election is quite late going on by me here at westminster originally no less than 5 i took the 11 liberal democrat m.p. found to turn to being leader but one by one to feel the spend out until only 2 jimmy acting leader and favorite ed davey on the old 3 day. today we asked former leader 13th cable to staff the strengths and weaknesses of the challenger but the crowd. well i think that both strong and you know will be well served which of them wins i mean out and davey obviously has they experienced from a member of the cabinet after environment heavily into climate change negotiations things of that kind later is this is different she came in after at a coalition the completely new generation who will approach things in a fresh and different way and then former liberal democrat presidential candidate
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rand or pick i wonder if they had they view ends and be more of the same he looks like the favorite because he's had a lot more coverage because he's been knocked in maida but in actual fact they've done more on stage should win because she's really the only person i have to say who's got a chance of becoming the posse if you really pen me down my money's on lead them around because i think of this field say way. all that to come but 1st your tweets emails and messages on last week's show on the art scene looked and which featured elaine c. smith and got it for dale 1st joel says i really love the speak show about the theater and laughed out loud to funny story about the vehicle with their 784 local bank for the whole team keep up the good work with thank you and keep watching richard says just watch the interview with alex semin to speak about god for dos and to be great to hear about your work jumping arts in scotland and establishing a national theatre agree with your criticism of edinburgh festival night dominated by comedy and commercial interests it urgently needs an overhaul fraser says it's
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quite a relief this edinburgh festival is not on it's so peaceful here it is exhausting heating the doing. nelson says a fine example in further interest and encouragement in this field much attention has always been given to the to it as an industry that is of course the real task ahead in the rebuilding of industrial workplaces that once were right he says i took spanish friends last year it was dreadful we couldn't walk couldn't find a place to eat or sit and they had a very bad impression. dave says i beat a file of the edinburgh festival and have introduced many of my friends and family to it it's north toward raymond says was there last year for the festivals loved it one of my best vacations ever and finally i aberdeen see great to see the edge of festivals continuing as an event but knights of the liberal democrats alex is joined by the former party leader servants cable. that assesses to hosley is full
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of the liberal democrat leadership who better than former party leader sivan's cable who joins me from his home in twickenham events welcome to the all examine show that's great to be with the other. segments the little man on the ed davey both sav done to you when you are a liberal democrat liberal you know them a particular well i would just say the contrasting styles in the strengths and weaknesses of both candidates are well i think the book strong and you know will be well served whichever whens i mean out at davy obviously has they experienced from a member of the cabinet looked after environment heavily into prime it changed negotiations things about china and knows a lot of economics maghera groups good economic background layer is is different she came in after at a coalition a completely new generation very fresh approach and interesting cosmopolitan
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background and i have a mother who is palestinian she's you know absorbed in our quite a lot of that in our outlook looking international way of looking at the world and she's buildout in the last 3 years on education she's very strong on education issues it's all levels and will approach things in a fresh and different way if you've got a feeling for who might be ahead in the race thus far been you by thing any particular candidate not have come committing myself by the way i do think as a former leader it's helpful but sometimes not right i don't i doubt be with either of them i would guess a david has some in the advantages because he's been around a while everybody knows him in the party latest trying to make themselves known that me out there but the thing with a sporting chance and it is of course a very unorthodox system of leadership are staying is entirely down the remote rate so we don't normally have. it's been quite difficult to generate
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a huge amount of publicity for the leadership contest i'd say the party ranks the self to do you think that that's a feature of the global pandemic they audit as a more a commentary on the other party only having 11 m.p.'s but it's a mix of both but the biggest challenge was in the same challenge i have but it's now worse is that the party's breaking through 3 you know really bad elections 1517 and last year it's been knocked back and i think mr chicory hard last time because we built up sent me in the last stages when i was leader to a good position about 20 percent of the polls we were doing well in the government in the year elections and we slumped again and picking our peoples in the raw in those circumstances is really very difficult so i don't envy the new leader it's a major task and of course you have this additional problem that if you have
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a small number of m.p.'s you get very little attention and tolerance it's difficult to be cold in a way very much to fill a spot say after your proxy in parliamentary terms it's also difficult to get into the media so it's it's going to be a very difficult job i found it hard enough but they'd modestly 70 you past all the great electoral success that you had as leader only a year ago in the european elections where you were 20 percent of the vote came 2nd in the polls labelled the tories were absolutely nowhere. as any 4 thought a few big. staying on the taking advantage of the platform and and leaving the past into the last general election. and i think we will have mixed feelings about these things and i've made a conscious decision i want you to pass on to the next generation and get on with not i can do anything richard what i'm doing now but. yeah i said. sometimes think
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there you know if i've been there i wouldn't have done this i would never down that but i think whoever had been leader we were going to have problems in that december election now actually one of the fractures in interest very powerful in the kind of children leading areas they named live stock and that's you know different politics that whistle state message deterrent effect of mr cole being you know i got down off the door people saying we got to vote for you agree with you and you're a weak white guy your client say that we're not going to risk having that not running the country and now unfortunately you know really did for ascribe a lot of damage but no ever been leader and would have had to contend with what was a moment last year in the aftermath of the baathist johnson's defeat in may and the supreme court when his policy on parliament was the clear of unlawful when his
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government was rocking what was so any moment. and see blacks a coalition could have been brought together with a bit of flexibility and the and change the course of history or do you think that it was an illusion that that could have happened well there was a kind of and she breaks it coalition you know we work together i work together very runway for environment and the russian nationalists never the greens now this story depicted as we had a very good operation that there wasn't in not hostile. mention actually behind they the idea of a new a referendum on the on the outcome they negotiate it was the chemical setting and that was in large part because there was a substantial body of labor m.p.'s maybe fake joining the coven himself was ambiguous can we just didn't have enough to get that over the line unfortunately that was the critical thing and with some level. a moment we have
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a compromise candidate as an end to the prime minister of a clock failure could have been a phone or was that something ruled out by the labor party while the liberal democrats were ruling out jeremy carbon what was them nothing could have been done to given the proximity of brecht's the john snow to doning state while you had the chance i think that was the signal out from the right light certainly played with it now i argued for it no once of this did some good i can plug them in the well this that he is a superb character who wasn't a party leader to get commanded prosperities book that was in the name of the solution i think there was a genuine problem with the labor party is that means there was a very public musician a government that privately they might settle about certainly we you know my parent teacher got quite a strident position of not having the labor leader and i think if we could have got that neutral 3rd term see if we go ahead leader that we might have made some
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headway on that and i think historians will focus on that particular point that was there was a point at which the campaign starts the regular way and there's a great deal enthusiasm in the run up to the general election from the liberal democrats and indeed the s.n.p. that's their have an election but the end game is the johnsons and domingue state with a 2 seat majority in the can basically do a lake's. easy we're fighting state of course but with that probably wasn't the wisest election to be forced ever it wasn't i mean i think i could understand why your proxy for string election and they were in and doing doing very well in the polls in scotland. i think iraq a state probably was a mistake we could have come back and try to modify the legislation on the treaty as it went through parliament. i think if we made one big mistake it was calling
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for revoke an hour i mean i mean we all agreed that in the final analysis revocation was the thing to do that rueful as a campaigning is here it wasn't right. great campaign for 2 years i'm guessing the referendum we should start with that i think a lot of people were aware of the parts often leave me out in the correct tray idea of just cancelling may the last referendum having is one of the mistakes that some of our campaign has made and how should the potty approach but i accept no no that this as happened legally and is about to happen economically i mean what's in the past these authors you've done the deed the the 2 candidates the leadership of the host the deal with the the blacks the issue now well i think you know shouting about it probably isn't helpful nobody's listening on that sent me on the other side people made up their minds the thing is gone through it so clearly easy to
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sound you know a side rapes backward looking i think what we're now going to see that they believe this do is to sketch out a kind of a future which is here opinion but isn't just talking back to the owner arrangements and that i think we will see in the next 5 to 10 years and an approach within europe which ally was certain countries to go it's a different spade i know this is often they discuss macron his has advocated it that countries that are not toxic they have monetary and i have no intention of vain but nonetheless wish to play out an important role in europe from them probably are able to get back to a kind of norwegian type of close straight integration i mean i think that's that's the frame in which pro europeans and i think in your county as well would probably be quite comfortable with that kind of position. stay with us after the big for
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if you don't die for a mouse you by going by each. moment. our lives. change your whole life change. your welcome back as alex talks to form a liberal democrat party leader 3rd vince cable. spence cable is this to teach it difficult to the liberal democrats have the keir starmer as they did paddling the labor party the feel they are not the bytes of the center ground the politics which decreases the the openings that the liberal democrats would have if the labor party were positioned much farther to the left is that a key strategic difficulty or the how should either of the leadership candidates seek to tackle that but i see it as an opportunity rather than as
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a defeat and seeing as i as i explained earlier i think one of the reasons a lot of our putative supporters backed off was because of fear of a hard left labor government and i think if you have a labor leadership which is electable look you know i care stan there i think certainly comes into africa agree that there are parts of the of the country park service of england and of states in scotland where. you know people will go to the lib dems and want to go and where labor are not serious competitors around thinking my own seat you know right now a big general simple there are a lot of other places around in the start making then you know the guilt for the winter stirs which didn't go last time which would go next time some of the suburbs a bunch of stir. era go in yorkshire places like that you know maybe there are $3030.00 plus states which we could weigh in. with anyway that way complementary to
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the labor party rather than competitive. that happens you know you got serious numbers for an alternative government. tried is there in 1970 and that's how many of us got into problems in the 1st place going to be a revolution it was a complementarity with the labor party round the competition you see a fight over their servants cable one that message of the future 3rd then to 5 for some of the the new stars and the that liberal democrat firmament will take the message forward and what would you say to them given your experience in politics will be your message to the rising stars of liberal democracy well i think you know you have to be a resilient and i think people often say don't vote so you need you know real talents in weeks and and intelligence of course those things that matter but they i think the quality more than anything that you require is stamina ability to take
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punishment and to keep going on and to come back that said jane simmons of my own party we got some very very good people neera will sing who you know are you know 1st i think minority candidate has come up to a general election daisy cooper and some tokens and they're very very capable people and i think it will be in good hands so that's cable former leader of the liberal democrats demonstrating those life after politics thank you very much for joining us on the alex amen phil thank you both so both cable will pay think both leadership kind of gifts like edge to edge t.v. in the race for the liberal crowd for a rather different view alec trying to form a lead them n.p.r. and political commentator lembit of paint so he's going to weigh in this liberal democrat raise a thumb to former liberal democrat m.p. alleged opec member who's going to when little about on all day david. it's
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a day and 8 but i can give you more than just a casual cautiously waited response if they had dave uns or to be more of the same coming he looks like one a bit because he's had a lot more coverage because he's been young team leader but in actual fact it's laid out more and she should win because she's really the only person i have to say he's got a chance of becoming the party if you really pen me down my money's on lay them around except think of the students a way so you're backing the site of according to the betting what is the special factor you think off of the liberal democrats change let's remember that davey carries a huge amount of baggage i used to share an office with mint fact and he was right down the line with the nick clegg cabal we know the name thanks about the law and nick like particularly destroyed the party wrote a book about this and sadly for the lib dems as truth right and just about every prediction of the other thing about a date is she's mired by the fact that he voted for peace to students direct
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break coach a call promise in the 20 time general election and really did pull the student but the lib dems you can't get away from that fact by contrast made them around wasn't there she isn't my ad by that problem and also she's quite clearly a radical left leaning libertarian she's quite characterful as well i don't think david can offer anything new i don't dislike him he's a decent man but i don't think can offer anything new whereas lead him around might be the shots in the arm that the dems need for a long and slow recovery oh let me put the conservation with only 11 members of parliament 5 in the scottish parliament one in the the welsh parliament don't deliberately have to actually need something of a governmental experience to give the the party somewhere that doesn't have the terms of numbers they don't need some governmental experience that's irrelevant. if
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anything it's a negative because the governmental experience that day because he's with them is the baggage of a coalition which destroyed the liberal democrats under nick clegg how does he explain why he voted so consistently with the conservatives when we know that's a big minus a big turn off for many of the traditional liberal democrat voters who deserted the posse when may felt this outed by nick clegg's on of the consent of coalition by contrast then american is not tarnished by that brush that's remembered not tempt faran who has recently did well specifically because he was an outsider during the coalition with the conservatives so i don't think there's any benefits or to be absolutely pedantic about this any experience and benefit not sad davy carries with him from government is more than outweighed by the negatives for exactly the same reason that oppression a celeb or paid. on staff to this favor but davy has no replaced other in the least
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the bootmaker laws as the odds on favorite so he must be doing something right in this campaign and women must be doing something wrong doesn't follow. i don't think it may look merenstein anything wrong but the bias as i see it in this election is the fact that davey is repeats at the time to does the thing they don't leader in way thank profile as i know on my benefit and to my cost is everything and times of what the bookies think and it probably does help at baby with a proportion of the liberal democrat lecture but remember this is a fairly small and a truly defined group who will also say well at day he was in government and that was catastrophic for us to the an extent then a moron could wince to 70 because she is the outsider you're right about the odds i'm not sure that i'm right about them or on winning but i am sure that it had they
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the when's there might be a huge left of the party and they'll be carrying all of that package from the coalition which they've really got to cut this strong at they be can't do that they them around com. bez the big strategic difficulty for the liberal democrat says it's a fear starmer is obviously leading lever back to the the center get out and he's disposing of the the call of the night baggage at a fairly rapid rate of knots doesn't that crowd out the liberal democrats room in the political spectrum isn't that a problem for both of these candidates has turned to the question of spin and history records and i've been tremendously good and tremendously bad at my own career so maybe i am qualified to comment the issue here is that day the doesn't create a radical position on any score there isn't anything new about what that they can say once again i stress i don't dislike him but i just don't see what to meet
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he brings to the party naturally that the party hasn't already got and hasn't already suffered when it came to the coalition now look at les lamont she's a libertarian she's made some pretty radical comments even about sexuality all of that is quite interesting to the lib dems but sensual to all of this is later myron thanks for selfish she she has been willing to take some fairly unorthodox traditions in the selection now that's exciting i would summarize it like this at davey can't recover the party's fortunes any time soon probably not even a 10 year need to ship them around might it's not guaranteed but she might and if there is a definite no and a possible yes i think the party should go for the possible yes. finally. i hope for scenario for the liberal democrats that johnson government becomes deeply unpopular there's a big anti totally swaying and just like us in 9097 liberal
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democrats floaty than and constituencies where the nor credible challenge from the labor party been couldn't you get a number of m.p.'s back on the on labor's coattails and it's not a reasonable chance of happening in in 5 years time when not they'll remember the evils of the coalition government between the tories and the liberal democrats. the lib dems biggest hope is that forces outside their control restore the party's fortunes as you've described the best thing that can happen to the lib dems is the worst thing that came out into the country a catastrophic conservative chorus johnson administration it's sad to hope for failure to get success for a party but we're talking about facts here rather than what's now when it comes to the question of who would benefit most from the party and not circumstance it's still a limb around because they will be some people who remember that davy is the risk
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and day makes the past new could be in trying to go back into another conservative coalition because he's got form then them around hasn't so if there is a lift it would help either of those 2 as leader but it would help later more and more remember that people that the lib dems need back the most are the disillusioned left wing voters at david doesn't offer them much then i'm around us and she's a libertarian. but a wild card in british politics is a wild card i'd be willing to play when you've got little more than a busted flush. for you bill wild card just self a number of times level thank you for appearing once again on the alex salmond show . my pleasure. the liberal democrat leadership contest the stake in place against the back cloth
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of a global pandemic of necessity it has been a virtual contest of a son vince cable as professionally frank when he says that even the different circumstances the been difficult to sustain much excitement after all the liberals have been through 3 bruising general election contests in quick succession the last of what's that much themselves to provoke have a politics is always changing the great low. but old revival has been forecast many times since lloyd jones left office a century ago but rather like the holy grail it's been difficult to find and even more difficult to retain equally the opposite suggestions of the imminent demise of also being greatly exaggerated. but not dead yet and in politics where those any life a tall there's always hope and so from the myself and all of the show is good bye for now stay safe we'll see you again next week.
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