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a classic staying alive women ecology and development is scheduled for republication september she joins me now from delhi vandar thanks so much for coming on to you at least please that the global pandemic has not made politicians and policy makers talk about a war on nature the war is just on the coronavirus it's a problem to say you have a law against a little wire this because all the wars in the past have caused a lot of harm. coming from india the war against the barbarians we're all supposed to be barbarians of you know of the civilizing mission it exterminated so many people and cultures my work in the last 35 years has been based on how declaring war on humans 1st in italy as concentration camps those same chemicals in the same i-g. father and the same boys are gone 10 then turn these chemicals into ever took since

every chemicals which are still killing but they're not solving the problem of control of best they're creating new twists and i was also supposed to live in factories as it was your own 3 you get the mad cow disease you get to by degrees assistance again the bacteria are winning when you talk about a war against microbes the war against my groups you know god isn't the root of the entire chronic disease epidemic and there's all the scientific data showing the mortality with the corona infection is much higher when you have diabetes obesity cancer 10000000 people die of cancer because of the poison cut dead millions are dying of diabetes because our entire health system is being destroyed you don't fight life you create harmony with life and it's in the bill it seemed to

me harmony to create immunity to create resilience that is basically at the root of the militaristic mind losing every war against life well obviously big agriculture big pharmaceutical companies and big oil they all deny that they have anything to do with creating disease but we do hear from press briefing say from downing street here in london or from the white house the fact that big multinational companies will be involved in our defense against coronavirus this. tell me about what you talk about in one lists your investigation of the origins of intellectual property and are you optimistic that there will be no payton to on any future vaccine against corona virus the 1st you know to work on patents is what led me to create another and since saving and fighting against the illusion that corporations like monsanto are inventors of life and see just the import image of billions of years

of nature's evidence and thousands of years of farmers breeding that it's a machine that they invent the book one this was as one percent grew out of the fact that i witnessed at the paris summit on climate change that bill gates and mark zuckerberg was strutting around on the street with heads of state and i said when didn't billionaires work and elected to start telling elected leaders what they should be doing so as we watch not just the bailouts going to the people who brought us the crisis the oil industry american nickel industry and big pharma are one they're not different the investment funds like blackrock and vanguard black rock true corona became control of assets of 23 trillion amazon pradelle just create a platform and destroys livelihoods every 2nd week they are trying to create new

monopolies just in the last month 24000000000 additional well project because it was wired as the international labor organization is warning us we have a pandemic of. and employment and as the fooled well who program is and what we know is we have a hunger and emmy so all the billionaires actually would like to trash humanity trash the planet and they think without the base without that which supports take money that they will continue to make trillions it's that illusion that i talk about in rebel when this bus is the one percent the kid talking science but who learned their drugs one day or aids drugs next year there are corona drugs one day of it a bolo acces next to the corona maxine's the story of the search engine is by the dea the treatment stories change by the and i think we need 'd a very large independent community of opinion largess medical people scientists to

take stock of the many unscientific earth spins that have been given it's always a sort of associated with the challenge of property rights for such drops that are not even example attention deficit disorder among children is because of the bad that deficiency of micronutrients interest elements after arms with bite it with the city provide more of those micronutrients which then allow your brain to function your 12 punch well obviously obviously we tell our viewers to consult their own medical practitioners and as for your criticism of a big oligarchy with their billions who are interviewed every other day it seems for their great information on coronavirus they would say no they're far from. being negatives they're feeding the bigger world they're creating the

interconnectivity around the world and they are emblematic of progress quite the opposite of what you're saying white not was it just the facts and evidence of that than all the long distance of lines have. what is still working our local farms and community supported agriculture and links between the growers of food gloss the problem and it's the land but the my book oneness was as one percent isn't how the saw because philanthropists actually philanthropy capitalists my book is analyzed every sector that has been shaped and remember bill gates it was not gene dry still he started to finance it it was for 5 years ago there is pushing it it is deregulating the european court of justice said it's a g.m. they're trying to have it declared and not g.m. or all the instability of this gene try. you know to tick is coming up gene

tries to push species to extinction can you imagine the mines the miners that would imagine it has the power to engineer extinction i wish extinction rebellion what drives up against this deliberate extinction difficult arguments difficult to have a demonstration on at the moment but there is no direct evidence at the moment that the creation of monocultures by capitalism by greed directly created coronavirus surely we need that proof before big agriculture big mining big pharma have to pay for what in effect is deforestation and so on for creating coronavirus. well we do know that the bias comes from the back that much we know i also have newspaper reports from india hold board the defense research others of china and

the u.s.c. jointly came and pirated really that sent viruses from india in the not. so we do know there was a deliberate collection of these fires there are a d.n.a. similarities around 94 percent we don't know it came from about the do it. no we do we do that it is then been modified how it's been modified is the uncertain but what's the modification is what is a defense lab is the way markets that's where the different stories start to get very confusing we would have a swine flu without the monoculture factory farms we wouldn't have bird flu without moral culture factories you know you know that the big but the big fear of it isn't it as ecology we know diversity is what creates a brig in the spread of disease and bess but it is evil to print h. more easily on vulnerable bodies vulnerable by

a big maybe vulnerable by the poison and monocultures of the mind as i've called it is the inability to see how evil systems well the inability to see how diversity is michael and i b b a b s the expert group will international of the convention on biological diversity is coming out with a report that without by the industry will have no help and i have put out a call on earth do you say there's one hell on one planet and it comes through biodiversity those bigger cultural firms that have an immense amount of money and lobby on k. street in washington and lobby here they will tell you that we have the black death we had great plagues we had epidemics pandemics where before capitalism started we had them during feudalism not because i'm not saying because the plea but i am saying that they have created of false system that has become the

basis of chronic diseases and the emergence of new diseases 2nd even the w w 2 you are so worried about this pandemic what will the pandemic of diabetes and obesity . all of the u.s. needs are issuing and the was with tim's of the corona infection are the black americans who are the worst with terms of pollution of the poison it's a bad food they were already put into what i call nutritional out of mind can you imagine the degradation of the human being if people in the richest country have to live in what is called who deserts the died in a full desert is a recipe for obesity and diabetes and people with obesity and these are the worst victims 9.2 percent is the risk of dying if you have diabetes and the corona habit

and it when the other risk is one percent i've got to tell you that here in this country ritchie said that the chancellor boris johnson chancellor was 1st to quantitatively ease $645000000000.00 into the footsie stock market our entire pension system here in britain let alone in the united states is intertwined with the very companies you keep mentioning do you believe that all the pensions should be disavowed thing immediately from these massive agriculture companies. well 1st of may is made. its turn to remember that workers have rights including the rights to their pensions they have a right to decide how that money will be spent to create subsidies for those who are destroying the planet destroying our health destroying our livelihoods or yours to be able to recover after this pandemic which is not one pandemic it is

a 100 pandemic it is a livelihood pandemic of course it's a corona pandemic which is occurring in disease spread a pandemic and my big worry is as you lock people into their houses and as amazon is given freedom to deliver every ad of amazon that comes on my computer is junk food packaged food. and is not what we're supposed to eat this should be clear if you commission all the workers of our pension funds and they should be taking 'd for mission of the 60 trillion microbes in our gut i think we are in a time where we need a democratic debate about the use of our money. a new reclaiming of the commons including ringback not public health systems which is what is see in this writes is not the private for profit system the robber barons of today that is but there's still room a balance and as they say big data is the new lawyer it's still an oil and it still

extract it from my mind and from our bodies with under the skin surveillance systems being treat it created this is a moment for people to become more deeply democratic and not allow the lot down to be a lockdown on the timelines the lockdown of our freedom. the lockdown of hostile it talk to run the machine or i'll stop you there more from the world renowned environmentalist after this short break plus after tens of thousands dead how did the n.h.s. europe's largest employer go for manufacturing lifesaving p p to begin communist china for it. or the. bad guys are financial survival guide liquid assets not those that you can convert into gas quite easily. to keep in mind no assets i mean to

a place and watch guys are bored. as the u.s. economy was booming growing numbers of people were made homeless. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still is the land of opportunity the reality of it is we're not financially equality and i'm not comfortable housing or living minimum wage give many people no choice. that's been a problem with the city can always turn a return call the stay way only. 2 forms of the 40 different is no answer because you're still requires resources the most vulnerable or abandoned on the streets to become the invisible comes.

welcome back we'll be talking about n.h.s. shortages later in the show but i'm still here with world renowned environmentalist talk of on the shiva we would say here in britain at least some of us that we have democracy we have the european union the european parliament we have these big trade blocs we have w t o organizations with democratically accountable representatives you believe however that fundamentally to our denying of the precautionary principle which is now of course being investigated in the context of coronavirus these are fundamental to the denial of the precautionary principle that has led us to this i think sadly the direction it was driven by the denial of the proportion of principle i witnessed how it was the european union laws and biosafety that was seen as coming in the we of the g.m. will issue and a democracy which has been hijacked by big money and the billions. it's

no more a democracy it is just at the start for a dictatorship and today we have a dictatorship of big money which is able to totally trash people's will people's freedom that is what we have to wake up to right now people are talking about the vaccine the urgent need for a vaccine so that specially ironically the developed nations of the united states of the united kingdom can get out of the mess that it finds itself in how can we stop ourselves from having to rely on big pharma doing research that actually threatens bio safety food safety. epidemiology itself i think 1st of all we do need democracy and diversities knowledge the 2nd is those who make money out of investments in a particular treatment of any kind this should not be

a decision makers this should not be allowed to come and talk to presidents and prime ministers because it is a conflict of interests to institutions that often talk to prime ministers and presidents of the world bank and the international monetary fund do you believe that at least this pandemic means they will be less able to tell the leaders of the global south to privatized their health care systems what health care systems they have after the global pandemic the high point behind insurance they will how i need behind the louts you know world bank and i.m.f. are already getting ready and there's not a single time where world bank and i.m.f. have given money without a structural adjustment package behind it in $1009.00 to $1.00 it was a $90000000000.00 crisis we had when world bank pushed the privatization of the seeds and that is what destroyed our agriculture that is what created refugees

most of indians were farmers that refugee status is today in the migrant labor half of india. works as to carry sleeper all in and they have no work there today as hungry people so you know the greed of the money machine as i call it in my book when this was sent on which the i.m.f. the world bank the value to your rules the billionaire who really gain out of this is now thinking of how do you mine the minds of people that's what this book does when it says the answer to cambridge analytic how can you mind the date of the bodily activity of human beings and then sell back lintas of the lands that is what people who have a passion for freedom and a passion for life should be looking at well the government here wants everyone to download an application to help people from coronavirus and surely bill gates has children and boris johnson here in london has just had another child why do you

believe they would be apart of mass surveillance not only math surveillance but the distorting and manipulating of research around say pandemics like coronavirus so if you think of 2019 we could call $29000.00 the expression of people's food everywhere in the world from cheerleader lebanon everywhere people were out on the streets calling for a change in the political and economic system when you create your wealth through theft and people free people have the possibility to writings you're not just afraid of life because live concert balkanize it really well you're afraid of people what they don't learn is you cannot shut down treat. even a blade of grass knows how to break through the concrete and we have to become blades

of grass well i'm not sure what the low birthrate say to that i've got a mention actually a documentary produced by michael moore directed by jeff gibbs that was released for free on the internet on earth today your read it here in the documentary come under a lot of criticism because it seemed to say that the so-called new green technologies you mentioned black rock earlier and of course pension funds heavily invested in brand new green technologies for profit it seemed to cast doubt on wind power solar power and the way these technologies are created and whether they actually do help the environment at all i have learnt to do full cost accounting do not call all the appearances but to call the hand. so we were always told industrial food is cheap it is feeding the work saw i started to do the full cost accounting and found that this trillions and trillions of dollars dollars of

chandel in monitor destruction made of us destruction struction asinus and destruction when we add all that together we will realize that we were not a poor industrial who pushed by the old boys in cartel and be gone if you take biofuel give me 2 look like it's very efficient inside out in the european union we had big debates in the parliament where they were giving big subsidies so by your diverting fuld to feel but it takes not forsooth you do produce biofuels and it substitutes just finally then since you mention accountancy in a sense you believe something as basic as farm yield now and different types of statistics that accountants use should now should now put in one column the cost because of coronavirus or definitely and i'm not talking about. accounting and talking about auditing in the full cost benefit and you know when as if

a plan has been pushed into the chemical track and this is. my money i say let's sit and talk the talk total accounting costs and benefits and then they realize they're losing out their debt or $100000.00 farmers 'd so say the 2 principles that came out of the earth summit and i had the privilege to be there the precautionary principle and the polluter should we measure nutrition but we measure health and our work with the real farmers and true cost accounting is showing that we could feed 2 times in the u.s. population there's an amazing article that is definitely more powerful than a bill some of geoffrey's of the really little little creatures don't understand they're in significance in the largest or. we invited them both on dr venter shiva thank you. that banking. well while boris johnson the government stands accused of overseeing the underreporting

of the u.k. coronavirus death toll the numbers of health workers killed have been tragically clear but why is the n.h.s. find it so difficult to get basic protection for its workers the n.h.s. europe's largest employer now depends on communist china even though a global pandemic was rehearsed for back into any 16 i'm joined now via skype from london by the co-chair of keep our n.h.s. public dr tony solomon tony thanks for coming on before we get on to other issues fundamentally how is it that not keeping our n.h.s. public as a factor of britain's response to coronavirus because that whole service with this 1700000 people a single. protects the. and this is being undermined in the ways it isn't just service and solution the government is seriously understand that the n.h.s. so that it's always under pressure is always on the sunders they haven't seen the stance that it's huge numbers and sequences they don't and that's equipments and

all of those things which make a mountain to be clear this is under successive administrations tony blair john major cameron and of course main boris johnson why is it that on the front line doctors and nurses have to have to get personal protection equipment from private providers given the n.h.s. is the largest employer in europe or the what exactly is the story behind the fact the n.h.s. cannot produce its own protective equipment for its own staff well being behind this really serious failure to protect its top that is testing and continent facing and to present it and someone stands any chance it stands in terms and so on behind us is this. ideology that's. tribe it is better than public and that the government should not be investing so much money in public services

the n.h.s. in the past used to secure its own equipment and make its own equipment to a certain degree of as it can't produce everything there is no reason on earth want the n.h.s. could not be confusing essential equipment such as generic drugs and such terms personal protective equipment and he should be doing so we are going to contain a return to asleep public national fully provided fully funded health services and we will also be for that actually be extended to the curse that i haven't even thought about the care service but of course drugs are suddenly discovered socialism in the n.h.s. surely it cannot be his fault at all as regards this inability to procure equipment for as i say the largest employer in the end europe and not one politician an administrator and doctor. shop nursing management person in the n.h.s.

even a sense exercise sickness when they simulated a pandemic thought oh we probably need some kind of a protection equipment for nurses and porters cleaners in the health service or that a lot of those who was involved in the. will to publish the timings of exercise sickness in 2016 if there were voices indeed reduce the need for a national supply in preparation for such an agency of personal protective equipment the recognition that there were insufficient barriers such a pandemic and specifically the lack of sentences how do you know about this given that information is classified and top secret there's intimation that seen at least 22 that the cancer but. the missile returns is not available so why that why are they doing on time until you go dina because that shows them in

a very tall arts and ari who challenges the suggestion that boris johnson has discovered socialism but what they need to do is realize that a nation in peril. and part of the world or us to use collective measures and put public service and not private interests just finally on the issue of secrecy i'm not sure if this is because of the simon stevens who is there the boss of n.h.s. england who has a prior career as a scandal head tell us private health care for what do you make of the fact that n.h.s. staff are right now being threatened with disciplinary action for talking to the media for even tweeting about shortages of lifesaving equipment and hand problems on the front line in britain's response to coronavirus i think it is absolutely disgraceful it's a bullying comes that has come through the talks and it's come through top

government and top of the n.h.s. england and then it goes down to $10.00 in the regions and the trusts the fact that they might be punished for raising seriously responsible issues is it isn't dispraise and i think there's that whole political agenda that has been shown to be known to us if we learn one huge thing of benefit from this turn of virus is that the near liberal agenda has that's who the world and so people like no sun stevens or the or the agents of change for such an ideology and it has to start. tony solomon thank you that's it for one of your favorite shows of the last season will be back for new seasons of come in the fairfield man driving the show on you tube if you don't miss an interview and join me on the drive by following up on twitter facebook instagram and sound say same.