there. a lot of welcome to welcome part of you in less than 2 months our notion of work life balance has been trained and it's had many a lesson longing for the being screen used a little there about our jobs and resenting the things we used to have free beer about our private lives the historically unprecedented response to the call with 9 to make has definitely masked up with our lives that is what will they just will be alive once it's over well to discuss that i'm now joined by kitty in the short run at russian political scientist and a popular you tube or you can join in it's always

a great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for carving out your client asking out it's a case of kind of. life balance all over again when you get to your study it's a kind of going to write a song think brings a kind of the force it's you so your date. and in fact i think you in particular have been talking about in merging work and private life as a major social in a labor trance for quite some time i get you to get me that there's a. yeah and i'm sorry to say but it's reached its. unexpected average you with this onset of south isolation i wonder if you have had a chance to adjust to well on the on how do we ave a privileged people they academicians the way you just so leave this way before it was mainstream own down the had so it's evident that it's not normal and that he

shouldn't conceive it shouldn't be like that surprising thing for me was not how easily i have adapted so there was nothing i said that to. rather the opposite saying i suddenly realized oh maybe i should have known it before this social component of social sciences was always so much against talking sorceress or using inside information i was always saying that it's all out * there in the open source says you know official documents but now i see that there is this thing and that's not insider information but this is being in the atmosphere with their people and institutions you started visiting the evil they ask usually bad that used to be so cancelled so it's such a long time once you are deprived a whole days you'll begin to perceive how the quality of your work deteriorates well i hate to break it to you we are social species and it's their lives to

bookworms like yourself just as much as to everybody else now i heard me say a couple of years back that work especially a fulfilling work wearing down drinks not just income but other crimes of great vacation will one day become a luxury and i think that nowadays any kind of work is actually actually a privilege especially coupled with a monday to restrictions on social and mobility how much longer do you think states around the world can afford to maintain that no god. the mountain the world has an interest in keeping its citizens locked up so they know that their virus will go but this still rules and restrictions will remain i think it's a. scare idea the governments of the world are very much interested in lifting this restrictions but they are evidently and reasonably doing this in such

a way as to provoke another wave action i think we show worry about the oncoming level of poor see if that will be faced by millions and millions or russian citizens and the people all around the world through this will be cared for really . restaurant sounds coffeeshops will come back our services will revive but some jobs lost will indeed be lost forever to those people who. are the advantages of working for the state evidence right now because these people received their salaries they knew but was the stain your pro period will be over this advantages will not be over this state has been primary job giver in russia since well since since a long time ago but. 14 the number of people directly or indirectly and debts owed to the state for their cell research has grown it will likely grow even more

because other. workplaces will be scarse and this is not a very good saying well as the mill state is it is in a good shape right now and regardless of dire political system and i would claim that this is perhaps the most consequential catch 22 situation when there are simply no easy solutions but i also see a lot of a lot of discontent and building up around the world and the notion that this day around the world with a. very few exceptions would prioritize how considerations off a very limited group of people and we're talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population who this virus of about only die how considerations would be prioritized over everything else given where we are right now gee think it was ultimately a good call on the part of a very just to you know to these people and to pakistan and ignore everything else

take place and they aren't of the day this is an issue of priority everything has its costs and cannot be the jad she lists all the governments of the world have been acting in a remarkably similar manner as you now it is no matter whether their democracy is all talk process and this for political science this has been one of the remarkable things to watch and to analyze the matters have been very much similar even bill is just lace them and the neck and the poor employed during this week's crisis has very large similarities so it's not a question also although courses being more a factor in a democracy has been more effective instead of the question of a rerun of being in the same not this you know everything rather should tell us that it is so diverse governments have the reason for acting like they act even it's so great an economy and what would be. the cost. well.

i heard the same before that the reason the wide you know states around the world were compelled to behave that way or to react the way they reacted was because of the appreciation in the value of human life and i take a major issue with that because the save lives of obit 9000 patients a likely to come and the cost of many other lives we're talking about you know other patients who are randi able to travel well lifesaving treatment abroad we're talking about. domestic abuse which is likely to have increased over the stressful times we're talking about people who lost their livelihoods or mental health because of these a deal when you look at the human cost of both the endemic and the response to it comprehensively is it really such a humanistic response isn't it actually saving some and more safety in the other we can ask people for long term consequences because we're going to have we don't

know what would this situation be enough there were no restrictive measures and act as a whole imagine. then it all go away and. we don't need to imagine that you can look at. example of sweden and it is clear that at this point the number of fatalities. is slightly higher but it's not overwhelmingly so i mean we have some indications that these you know case in areas that many people were painting and many scientists were painting and submitted to the government it may have been overstated i guess i kind of does a touch of that medical specialists are even specialists in economy but i must have an issue with a swedish example we don't ease not conscious that did nothing about it and it cost little as a country that did not employ legislative restrictions on its citizens tell speeches all school restaurants in stockholm are as

a misleading their words and government will advise people to stay at home and a lot of them did they are also connected to the fabric of social life in northern countries is different from also the conflicts so they do have a kind of course but it's not going to nation it's not it's not obsolete i agree with you but it's far more did very response down the blanket ban that was imposed are. recommended in some countries now when i was thinking about it you know what into my mind is the culture. this so-called phenomenon of safe it is not that we see in some us colleges which creates a moral hazard for college administrators to overreact to every complaint from a student and we ultimately imperils agitation and critical thinking and i wonder if together with this common $1000.00 pandemic we're also witnessing the outbreak is not all departed governments when they think that it's better to be saved and

story even though distraction you made us say it's. alright to say for a while us australian story evolved on the kind of consequences that calm our home but when i was saying and continues to say that this matters. around the world has been the consequence also they have high value of human lives i was talking exactly about that there is a dark side even to a little higher cost of human life because even poses even poses a certain duty on any public government so it can't just say let's let life go on as a did for the sick will get sick somebody will die will try to help those women but now we're going on with the business as usual that isn't possible they need to share that they take a stance and body it in addition you feel on your even if this is costly. rationally but then that's the only outsider i figured out on the time including on

the russians they don't channel this kind of argumentation but we know that this is a highly discriminate it's a virus it goes primarily after people with preexisting conditions do could likely be sick and that you know type 2 diabetes is the prevailing disease among this population and i don't understand i haven't heard anyone are really clearly why do we have to isolate everybody bring a condom each year hold instead of isolating based is to decrease the population at least have a higher chance of and in that ending up in the emergency care units as opposed to everybody else who has either very slight or no symptoms or told you i'm a very wrong person to put this question to but * what i say. the circumstances let's watch the consequences that's what we're social site is do let's wait till the end of the war on time measures and see how they call an eerie bounce in the healthy economy of

a rebound maybe quite speedy and that will will say thank you to it is democratic and all the credit governments that you told them to trust actions that sold elasund. the human cost. than everything came back normal effects of this will serve as a kind of. accelerate search to an economy crisis or in the context of nation that has already been all its weight and that'll be a whole different thing in jesus christ we are in that you know kind of and all that and all the best all we do know how a virus but we also know how. it connects the nation for all of that was there before and we shall be i'm president of oil. crisis wage has not altered and began to take real consequences we will see for example a sequestering all solid federal budget we will see the budget will see if there are necessary inevitable cutting off spending of budgets or risk and the party

mellon society as a whole is expecting their well takes and how well you could do before you turn into a full fledged prophet of the our callouses let's take your very very sure that i do know this not only because the we have seen this things before we have some right that if you want some real article or take process you used it i could name a few names. so here you are people back so you need the name so i didn't worry about just. i will definitely be interested in exploring the spill but after a short break let's take an moment but we will be back in just a few seconds and.

no credit. no shots. to actually. track. no it's well. which your thirst perhaps. welcome back to worlds apart from the key to getting the story on that russian political analyst economic just before the break we were talking about how common 19 is

a highly discriminative virus which primarily goes to people with preexisting conditions and speaking specifically about type 2 diabetes and other balik disorders i think at this point it is absolutely clear that they. are definitely earning than it otherwise would have been and you know before these domenech beast kind of diseases south late diseases diseases all alive we're already bankrupt public how care sector is in many countries because of their snow balling cost for example just in the united states they're in the federal budget goes into medicare and about that of medicare it is child to diabetes now the question i want to ask you is about the prevailing social norms of the time being we treat how to as our personal issue do you think that's a sustainable social norm at

a time when society is that expected to make such dramatic sacrifices to treat these diseases that are easily preventable we do not know how the virus goes off so we have a lot of data about its data so we'll be able to fully jabs all he wanted so and 2nd i would not. dr any disease as it's looked at although of course there is a connection between the old way of life and the way are sealed as also genetics. inclination or does inclination towards a disease so it's not a thing you can blame a person on for having having made though those 2 of those deployed 2nd procedure your original questions about me august the 6th type of privacy and this is her this is very interesting thing and this is my kind of thing because it's social and it's political. by a policy or by a politics of the way the state or society offer all the needy all over the

lords and early on and longer the more we interfere direct your physical. what things are allowed and what. you doing. with your body you are was a body off your loved ones with your children how far can a pair of judge for example window look to vaccinate their child. before that we've been all of this our general liberal drop off our my body my decision and if i harm myself a way of making this decision if yes again it's not wrong it's melting isn't the fear with me society even liberal society made as told after their chav parents relations course 4 on one hand a week to perceive the family as a cast as safe have privacy at the same time we as

a society cannot tolerate the full parental power over a child the power of either from merely as a liberal base as we do interfere or society is our legislative system to interfere but it comes to you and you face all development well just jail house now this is to the. logical safer to use perceived as a kind of probably good to be defended by the force of the full force of the lawyer forcing states it's interesting how this things will develop but where we may be sure the thing will develop maybe we will see for example for moments a risk in public places as a customer it's as we have no. safe it's a restrictions on the measured service and now we're what we got years during the last 20 years that we're being search error search oh yes we go straight.

to airports at any public location maybe we'll see the same kind of range that will measure our going to temperature who are maybe you're an arab by the way because this is one of the. major characters risk factors. allo still diseases including comet 19 it's a major risk factor it is by weight what you put in your id is not going to be on lee your decision or is it going to be at least inquire the matter of society because and the end of the day you ask society to pick up the bill for your damage how in later years well you may recall how the number of scandals wraps its own recently about high prices for airplane tickets 14 winning over. actual grams and it was it was a whole host of public questions whether companies have the right to charge a high price is what it's such a thing with it's discrimination or not and now it's that was an innocent debate.

and now it becomes. so. that the question the real question is the question off policy measures how do you. know those things that. i think beneficial for society and people who were waiting more again as sort of a. cigar or do you know if you teach him healthy lifestyle and didn't teach every a school child to cook for example and in this way you try to make us a science it helps that you may be be what the line between the line between * christmas and democracy even make it into a distinction between the talkers in democracies and yet me know that democracy is on this front. paralyzed i mean the challenge of raising the united states from

call bit by to the is the highest in the world and it's the highest in the states with the highest rates of obesity and i heard you say recently that consumer is we just dairy directly related to the consumerism is here just a comment 19 is going to is not going to kill it and and essentially consumerism is a sick mix of all likely and perhaps mentally. compromised individual that requires a lot of services when we talk about the value of human lives is that really be conduct live that we have to cherish that me ask you aspire to protect me not of the united states which means a lot spends a lot on how care is on the verge of bankruptcy and healthcare is and the verge of bankruptcy because it's not sustainable there are doctors who are talking about dementia as type 3 diabetes because many diabetics go on to develop dementia and if you imagine you know this whole population of diabetics and people who are children

who will have to take carol i think it's a question of intergenerational you know soul and tired and sharon is why should our children take care and pay for our excesses you imagine always children the general generational. as just this is not a very healthy people who want to. have any disabilities themselves and our children are the beneficiaries of this society which allows people to survive which helps people with various sorts of disabilities to adapt and to become members of society so we cared to going back to a start and to do you feel when you were born. with a 100 percent says that they're not going to have one when we can also go i'm sure there's no question of personal responsibility in stating you over your own good how to not only to yourself but also to society because at the end of the day basis and easily preventable problem you know we can talk about authoritative societies

but not authoritarian can actually control what you put into your not it's only now control if it ensures very where you you know like you change a lot of money both to unite the state and also make people understand that this understanding who you'll meet and dk tional program not as system off fines and on the police matters that was my point yes the society is going to be why and what diverse also in terms of house and sounds of your name we're not going to change that we're not going to have an area of the blong healthy young people we're going to have a lot of people on either healthy no young. they are our competitors near also citizens as they spare so workers they contribute to society and they demand some things decided from the side but they also contribute so this is the reality we are going to lead and we're not going to make everybody house but who we have as you

say makes you have by by as i would say educating them i would very much argue in favor of changing data occasional programs even in the gardens and schools the younger of the children the better we do not teach them enough well we don't teach them at all meaning. i am there and its functioning well they're all the body and the importance also as you say what they put you in their house i think i just think that every child should be taught to cook and every chance will be what what is out it's what and what is not and what is jock for what he should years and what he should avoid we are now and very we have an agenda or make these so called stay at. regime which is not real obligatory been in the oven in a everybody or many people seem to comply with it i wonder how disciplined you are in observing the city hall recombination. i strongly suspect of being disciplined

is rather privileged being able to get severe disability or to be able to comply is rather a privilege than a virtue i can do that i have. to i have some how i have certain resources which you do not make my situation materially tragic so i can enjoy having my children with me and they can study alive and we have enough devices so it's not something that i did by my or by and accept ourselves and i can do all that i can imagine people with different jobs bus drivers to share who are carers medical workers cannot able to comply with this restrictions so i'm sad for all that and i will and i'll be able to do this for a few more weeks if it is necessary to my own house and for the general wellbeing of society like everybody else i do hope it will be over and like everybody else i will be even more thankful when i'll be able to meet my students and their son

because the conference is all very well but it's not teaching well it is teaching but it's about 25 percent of what it should be i do know how to see that they have and will come back. and i do hope just the day and i'll be able to come to your studio any interest and instead. they're looking forward to. before we say goodbye just let me ask you one more question because if you know conversation to say the russians is complete without voting our great under pushkin who. won when he himself was under quarantine of the milk's we're worse than cholera even though he himself turned out to be very productive. own seclusion unlike what here are i don't think we're going to try to any problems well and that's actually my question of what's your personal recipe a young they apathy add athenia that so many people are complaining about these days and isn't that one of the challenges of. isolation

a regime that faggot people regardless of their circumstances they're struggling on the mental and psychological problems wistar of our conversation with me. that quality of intellectual brocoli so boring to do but the quality of celestial work is going down in the absence of a societal compact * a so what is yes will we just suffer and then the product. offers from the consequences of what i do as i think what the everyone else is doing i try to get my scan to place i had my google calendar we sure as my life so i try to go to bed at a reasonable i work i even started doing some sort of exercises which i never did so i have seriously does all this kind of thank you know what i do. actually have bigger responsibility it is a see you have to keep your immune system in a good shape winds here catch the virus run to me and make me a promise 19

a very senior year i don't share your joy. i actually do it again having my family have around me is it great how our children seem to enjoy the extra didn't have to go to school and they had to experiments with that so they seemed rather to like it and if they. like starting a battle we can't. really it's always a great pleasure talking to you but these times are. very much for. watching so they shout the. next week and. all.

the sudden and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. rather than revolutionaries or soldiers small group the corporations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure the rest of us don't get together and take it back. these are sacrifice some. places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like voter suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices. into for that world. just world.

rival rallies in the byrd russian capital one for the president the other against it does follow a week of protests in the country marred by violence with many refusing to accept the outcome of last sunday's election. in the stories that shaped the way here in r.t. russia launches production of its corona virus vaccine the 1st in the world to be registered but there are concerns over the speed at which it was developed and the lebanese government including the prime minister resigned amid civil unrest in beirut following that deadly chemical explosion in this city we talked to a woman.