Skip to main content

tv   Worlds Apart  RT  August 16, 2020 11:30pm-12:01am EDT

11:30 pm
truth become interested even today which showed major development by israel serbia it's over it's still cool interest who or the russian looks you don't work with us all. throughout your teen international. bar.
11:31 pm
and on a welcome to well to part b. in less than 2 months our notion of a work life balance has been trained and it's had many of us the longing for the being screen used a little bit about our jobs and resenting the things we used to be beer about our private lives the historically unprecedented response to the call with 9 demick has definitely mass our lives that is what will they just will be alive once it's over it's about to discuss that i'm now joined by kitty in the short run at russian political scientist and a popular you tube or you can tell it's always a great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for carving out your client asking out it's it is a kind of. life balance. where you get to your study it's a kind of going to write a song think brings that kind of that forces you to your day. and in fact i think
11:32 pm
you in particular have been talking about in merging all work i'm trying to live as a major social in a labor trance for quite some time i think you're going to get me there's a. yeah and i'm sorry to say but its reached its. unexpected aparajita with this onset of south isolation i wonder if you have had a chance to adjust to well on the on how do we ave of privileged people hey academicians so we used to leave this way before it was mainstream oh now the have it's evident that it's not normal and that he shouldn't conceive it should be like that surprising thing for me was not how easily i have adapted so there was nothing much said that to. rather the opposite saying i suddenly realized oh maybe i should have known it before this social component of social sciences was always so much
11:33 pm
against talking sorcerers or using inside information i was always saying that it's all out * there in the open source as you know official documents but now i see that there is this thing and that's not insider information but this is being in the atmosphere with people and institutions you spread it visiting the evil behalf usually bad that used to be so cancels out such a long time once you are deprived of whole days you'll begin to perceive how the quality of your work deteriorates well i hate to break it to you we are social species and it's their lives to bookworms like yourself just as my just to everybody else now i heard me say a couple of years back that work especially a fulfilling work wearing down drinks not just income but other crimes of great vacation will one day become a luxury and i think that nowadays any kind of work is actually actually
11:34 pm
a privilege especially coupled with a monday to restrict actions on social and mobility how much longer do you think states around the world can afford to maintain that no god. mountain the world has an interest in keeping its citizens flocked so they that have a virus will go by the list your rules and restrictions will remain i think it's a panicky scare idea the governments of the world are very much interested in lifting this restrictions but they are evidently and reasonably doing this in such a way as to provoke another wave action i think we shall worry about the oncoming level of poor see that will be faced by millions and millions of russian citizens and people all around the world this will be cared for really. restaurant sounds coffee shops will come back
11:35 pm
a services will revive but * some jobs lost will indeed be lost forever to those people who. are the advantages of working for the state evidence right now because these people receive their salaries. but why is the staying at home period will be over this advantages will not be over this state has been primary job giver in russia since well since it's a long time ago but is it. 14 the number of people directly or indirectly and debts owed to the state for the s.l. race has grown it will likely grow even more because other. workplaces will be scarse and this is not a very good saying well as the mill state is it is in a good shape right now and regardless of dire political system and i would claim that this is perhaps the most consequential catch 22 situation when there are
11:36 pm
simply no easy solutions but i also see a lot of a lot of distance done building up around the world and the notion that this states around the world with a. very very few exceptions what prioritized how considerations off a very limited group of people and we're talking about 10 to 15 percent of the population who this virus of claims about only the die how considerations would be prioritized over everything else given where we are right now gee think it was ultimately a good call on the part of a very just to you know to these people on the pedestal and ignore everything else dickless and they aren't of the day this is an issue of priority everything has its costs and cannot be the jad lists all the governments of the world have been acting in a remarkably similar manner as you lot is no matter whether their democracy is all talk process and this for political science this has been one of the remarkable
11:37 pm
things to watch and to analyze the matters have been very much similar even bill is just place them and that in that the poor employed during this week's crisis has very large similarities so it's not a question also says being more a factor in a democracy has been more effective rather rational to rewilding in the same thought this scenario rather should tell us that this so various governments have the reason for acting like they act even though it's so great an economy and what would be. the cost. well. i already say before that the reason why you know states around the world were compelled to behave that way or to react the way they reacted was because of the appreciation in the value of human life and i take a major issue with that because the saved lives of coal bit 9000 patients
11:38 pm
a likely to come of the cost of many other lives we are talking about you know either patients who weren't able to travel well lifesaving treatment abroad we're talking about. domestic abuse which is likely to have increased. it's already stressful times we're talking about people who lost their livelihoods or mental how because of this a deal when you look at the human cost of both good and danny and the response to compress how severely is it really such a humanistic response isn't it actually saving some and more safety in the other. we can't ask people for a long term consequences because we're going to have we don't know what would this situation be enough there were no restrictive measures and act at all imagined and then it all go away and acts only we don't need to imagine that we can look at. the example of sweden and it is clear that at this point the number of fatalities.
11:39 pm
is slightly higher but it's not overwhelmingly so i mean we have some indications that at least you know case in areas that many people were painting and many scientists were painting and submitted to the government it may have been overstated i guess i kind of does a touch of that now medical specialists are even listed in economy but i must have an issue with a swedish example we don't ease not conscious that did nothing about it and it's little as a country that did not employ legislative restrictions on its citizens until speeches all school restaurants in stockholm are as a misleading their words and government will advise people to stay at home and a lot of them did and they are also connected to the fabric of social life another country says different from the conference so they do have a kind of course but it's a common day so it's not it's not obsolete i agree with you but it's far more did
11:40 pm
very response down the blanket ban that was imposed are. recommended in some countries now when i was thinking about it you know what do you do my mind is the culture of this so-called phenomenon safe it is and that we see in some years colleges which creates a moral hazard or college administrators to overreact to every complaint from a student and we ultimately imperils agitation and critical thinking and i wonder if together with this common $1000.00 pandemic we're also witnessing the outbreak is all departed governments when they think that it's better to be saved and story even though distraction you know made us say. all right you know to say for a while us the last thread on story evolved on the kind of consequences that that's common. but when i was saying and continues to say that this measures are on
11:41 pm
the. as do the consequences they have high value of human lives i was talking exactly about that there is a dark side even to a little higher cost of human life because even poses it imposes a certain duty on any public government so it can't just say let's let life go on as a did the sick will get sick somebody will die will try to help those women but we're going on with the business as usual that isn't possible they need to share that they take a stance and but be it in addition you feel over your even if this is costly. rationally but then that's the only outsider i fear and i don't the time including on the russians they don't channel these kind of argumentation but we know that this is a highly discriminate it's a virus it goes primarily after people with preexisting conditions do could likely be sick and that you know type 2 diabetes is the prevailing disease among the population and i don't understand i haven't heard anyone are clearly why do we have
11:42 pm
to isolate everybody agreeing become a chokehold instead of isolating this is to decrease the population at least have a higher chance of and in that ending up in the emergency care units as opposed to everybody else who has either very slight or no symptoms that told you i'm a very wrong person to put this question to but what i say. the circumstances let's watch the consequences that's what we're social site is do let's wait till the end of the war on time measures and see how they call an eerie bounce in the healthy economy of a rebound maybe quite speedy and that the oil will say thank you to it is democratic and then on the credit governments that you learn to trust your actions that killed elasund. the noble cause but if ever bad everything came back normal effects of this will serve as
11:43 pm
a kind of excel. right search to an economy crisis or in the context of nation that has already been all its weight and that'll be a whole different thing in jesus christ we are in that you know kind of and all that and all the best all we do know how a virus program but we also know how. economics the nation for a little that was there before and we shall be i'm president of oil prices crisis wage has not even began to take real consequences we will see for example a sequestering all solid federal budget we will see the budget deficit and will see if there are necessary inevitable cutting off spending of budgets or risk and if the party melon society as a whole is expecting their well take so how well you could do before you turn it into a full fledged profit of the average callouses let's take your very very sure that i do know that not only because the we have seen this things before we have survived that if you want some real article or take process you used it i could
11:44 pm
name a few names. so here we are people back so you need the name so i am voting for him out as. i will definitely be interested in exploring the spill but the doctor a short break let's take a moment but we will be back in just a few seconds break and. come back kaiser with more of my guide to financial survival this is as if a device used by professional value x. to earn money. that's right these has flaws are simply not accountable and we're just getting more and more to them. totally destabilize the global economy you need to protect yourself and. and inform was here for.
11:45 pm
welcome back to worlds apart from the key to getting the story and that russian political analyst economic just before the break we were talking about how common 1000 is a highly discriminative virus which primarily goes to people with preexisting conditions and speaking specifically about type 2 diabetes and other it's a ball of disorders i think at this point it is absolutely clear that they. are definitely are going down it otherwise would have been and even before this dominic b.'s kind of diseases south is related diseases diseases all alike we're already bankrupt public how care sector is in many countries because of their
11:46 pm
bowling costs for example just in the united states they're in the federal budget goes into medicare and about their out of medicare it is child of diabetes now the question i want to ask you is about the prevailing social norms of the time being we treat how to as our target signal issue do you think that's a sustainable social norm at a time when society is that expected to make such dramatic sacrifices to treat these diseases that are easily preventable we do not know the virus goes off so we have a lot of data but it's data so far we'll be able to fully gedge when it's over and 2nd i would not describe any disease as it's looking although of course the reason a connection between go away or fly for the way are sealed as also genetics. inclination or his inclination towards a certain type. so it's not
11:47 pm
a thing you can blame a person on for having having made though those 2 of those deployed 2nd procedure your original questions about me august the 6th type of privacy and this is her this is very interesting thing and this is my kind of thing because it's social and it's political. by a policy or by a politics of the way the state or society off the old and needy or the lords and early them and longer you know the lord interferes so on direct your physical. what things are allowed and what. you doing. with your body what was a body off your loved ones with your children how far can a pair of judge for example with a look to vaccinate their child. before that we've been all of this our general liberal drop off our my body my decision and if i harm
11:48 pm
myself a way of making this decision as if yes again it's natural it's melting isn't the fear with me society even liberal society it may be as told after their parents relations course 4 on the one hand a week to perceive the family as a cast as safe have privacy at the same time we as a society cannot tolerate the full parental power over a child the power of other from merely a smaller obeys as we do interfere our society and our legislative systems interfere but it comes to and you face all development well this jailhouse now this is the logical say for to is perceived as a kind of public goods to be defended by the force the full force of the lawyers forcing states is interesting how this things will develop but where we may be sure
11:49 pm
. the fear will develop maybe we will see for example * for moments a risk in public places as a customary thing as we have no. safe it's a restrictions on the measured service and now we're what we got years during the last 20 years that reading search error search oh yes we go straight. to airports at any public location maybe we'll see the same kind of range that will measure our got a temperature or maybe you are an arab by the way because this is one of the. major factors risk factors allo still diseases including call it 98 it's a major risk factor it is by weight what you put in your bio. is not going to be on li your decision or is it going to be at least inquire the matter of society because and the end of the day you ask a society to pick up the bill for your damn expound in later years well you may
11:50 pm
recall at how the number of scandals wraps so it's a recently about high prices for airplane tickets 14 waiting over. actual grams and it was it was a whole host of public questions whether companies have the right to charge a high price is what it's such a meal with it's discrimination or not and now it's that was an innocent debate. and now it becomes a whole new. so. next step the question the real question is the question of policy measures how do you. know those things that you think beneficial for society will find people who are waiting more again as sort of a cigar or do you know if you teach children how thiel lifestyle and
11:51 pm
teach every us. schoolchild to cook for example and in this way you try to make us asides you tell. me what the line between the lines between christmas and democracy even make it into a distinction between the talkers in democracies and yet me know that democracy is on base from. paralyzed i mean the challenge of raising the united states from called it like to these the highest in the world and it's the highs in this age mid to high straights of business and i heard you see recently that consumer is we just dairy directly related to the consumerism is here just a comment 19 is going to is not going to kill it and at the center of consumerism is a sick mix of well likely and perhaps mentally. compromised individual that requires a lot of services when we talk about the value of human life is that to really be conduct live that we have to cherish that me ask you aspire to protect we don't
11:52 pm
have the united states which means a lot spends a lot on health care is on the verge of bankruptcy health care is and the verge of bankruptcy because it's not sustainable there are doctors who are talking about dementia as type 3 diabetes because many diabetics go on to develop dementia and if you imagine you know this whole population of diabetics and many people who are children will have to take carol i think it's a question of intergenerational you know soul and tired and sharon is why should our children take care and pay for our excesses you imagine always children the general generational. asked just isn't this sort of very healthy people who want have any disabilities themselves and our children are the beneficiaries of this society which allows people to survive which helps people with various sorts of disabilities to adapt. and to become members of society so we cared to going back
11:53 pm
to a start and to give you a link you're born. with a 100 percent says that they're not going to have one we can also go i'm sure a solution of personal responsibility and stating that you owe your own good how to not only to yourself but also to society because at the end of the day this is an easily preventable problem you know we can talk about authoritative societies but not authoritarian can actually control what you put into your mouth it's only now control if it ensures very rare you you know like you change a lot of money both to unite the state and also make people understand that this understanding you will need a vacation a program not as system of fines and on the police measures that was my point yes the society is going to be a while and while diverse also in terms of house and sounds of your name we're not going to change that we're not going to have an area of the blong healthy young
11:54 pm
people we're going to have a lot of people on either healthy not young. they are our competitors they're also citizens at best they are sound workers they contribute to society and they demand something suicide from the side but they also contribute so this is the reality we are going to leave and we're not going to make everybody house but we have as you say makes a sides of bye bye as i would say educating that i would very much argue in favor of change indeed occasional programs even in the gardens and in schools the younger of the children the better we do not teach them enough well we don't teach them at all meaning there of its functioning well they're all the body and the importance also as you say what they put you know their house i think i just think that every child should be taught to cook and every child will be what what is
11:55 pm
a house it's what. and what is not and what is jack for what he should years and what he should have we are now and very we have ensured that we're all based so-called stay at home regime which is not real obligatory but in the in the new day everybody many people seem to comply with this i wonder how disciplined you are in observing the city hall recombination. i strongly suspect of not being disciplined is rather privileged being able to get severe disability or to be able to comply is rather have trouble is that a virtue i can do that i have. to i have some how i have certain resources which do not make my situation materially tragic so i can enjoy having my children with me and they can study a lie and we have enough devices so it's not something that i did by my own by and except for citizen i can do all that i can imagine people with different jobs bus *
11:56 pm
drivers. medical work has caught a ball to comply with this restrictions so i'm sad for all that and i will and i'll be able to do this for a few more weeks even is necessary to my own health and to the general wellbeing of society like everybody else i do hope it will be over and like everybody else i will be even more thankful when i will be able to meet my students and their son because the conference is all very well but it's not teaching well it is stitching but it's about 25 percent of what it should be i do know how to see that they have and the will come back. and then just the day and i'll be able to come to your studio and you know there are some instead. to be looking forward to it but before you say the dice let me ask you one more question because if you know conversation to say the russians is complete without quoting our great poet under pushkin. once when he himself was on the. where instead of the milk's we're worse down cholera
11:57 pm
even though he himself trained out a very productive. own seclusion unlike what here are i don't think we're going to try to any problems well and that's actually my question of what's your personal recipe a young the average. teen and so many people are complaining about these days and isn't that one of the challenges of self isolation regime that faggot people live regardless of their circumstances they're struggling on the mental and psychological. wistar of our conversation with me. that there's a quality of intellectual work although it's so varied and if you don't but the quality of selectional work is going down in the absence of a societal compact a so what is yes will we do a softer end of the product that. offers just consequences what i do is i think what they want to also is doing i try to get my scan you know place i had my google
11:58 pm
calendar we sure as my life so i try to go to bed at a reasonable hour work i even started doing some sort of exercises which i never did so i just seriously does all this kind of thank you know what i do i skip it is actually accurate or responsibility it is they say you're have to keep your immune system in a good shape winds here catch the virus once you mean about 19 or seriously you old you i don't care you're a enjoy but i actually do it out again having my family have around me is it great how our children seem to enjoy the extra day don't have to go to school and they have their parents with that so they seem rather to like it and if they like something a battle we can't get you. well you could really it's always a great pleasure talking to these kinds of isolation is doubly so thank you very much for being with us today thank you and they healed whites. they shall be.
11:59 pm
next weekend. all. bottom. line. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race in. spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk.
12:00 am
huge anti-government demonstrations continue after last week's contested presidential election with saul alexander lukashenko secure a 6th term in office. but says this person has been in power for 26 years long street with his teeth and doesn't want to let go meanwhile protesters also take to the streets in support of the under-fire leader. was not a supporter alexander lukashenko i wasn't forced to come here this is my personal choice. and russia begins a mass production of its new coal seam claiming it's
12:01 am
a world 1st but many scientists around the globe expressed alarm during.

19 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on