joining family members who doesn't know it's been awful but we will get through it just as we can through really been through a lot of very unpleasant times in my life 9 live 86 scientia so. when you hear leaders like boris johnson babson certainly don't trump repeatedly claiming no one could have predicted this pandemic you know you don't think that's the case. and i know it's not it's not to like because people studying these these are soon arctic seas as have been predicting a really long time and you know that learns ok hiv aids started prompt untying and selling eating chimpanzees into different parts of africa sars but again from another wild wild animal market in china and mars again from probably camels in the middle east and then being simple

epidemics that began from our factory farms in the effort to arson all these terrible unhygienic conditions one of the new films that are out from national geographic. called jame the 1st of their 2 once called hope talks about you when you're in goma in tanzania and the tragedy when polio hits the small community of a chimpanzees you are investigating and and made the whole of the world realize that humans were the only not the only species to have consciousness arguably just tell me about when a pandemic hit that camp. well it was it was really the worst time in my life because we never knew which chimpanzee would come in dragging an arm or a neck and then some of them would just disappear and it was it was absolutely heartbreaking and it began in a nearby town. and bizarrely the doctor at the time it was an italian he

he didn't he could not talk about polio we think it's because he couldn't have the proper supplies anyway nobody knew that it was colin or anywhere and then some people in a village just south of only got this paralysis and then some chimps there was seen dragging limbs and then it came to us so we back snake is the most and i'm very susceptible to these restore a tree deceases and we're terribly worried that this could 19 could get you know an effect in fact our chimps and they're all endangered now and the iranian towns yeah i'm going to get to reasons for there are possible extinction but speaking about gone bad nearly 60 years since you were there with a groundbreaking research been of course what's disturbing about it today is it led to a war

a virtual war between different elements in the community because an epidemic struck an area well actually the division of the community and what i call the 4 year war wasn't actually. it had nothing to do with the polio epidemic what we now know is that anywhere where a tourist an ape so it's a pretty studies group we have to take very great precautions to ensure that the chimps don't catch arcus senilis. the to continue as i knew in the old days so honest all gone but one of the ones who has by a real say friend was graeme and. last time i actually saw kremlin she came right up to me and looked into my eyes i mean of course they recognize us just as we recognize them that we had ducked under the shiver on this program actually in the past few days i know she said platforms with you she was

saying it was clear the deforestation is part of the puzzle of corona virus and his one and a half acres of rain forests are destroyed every 2nd tell me about the divorce stationary it's affected animal life the chimpanzees that you love so so much and why the whole world needs to wake up to the idea that it's affecting them right now well the d. forestation particularly of the tropical forests which are carbon sinks the they you know absorb c o 2 carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and store it and as we destroy the forests we release that carbon dioxide and bad of course relates to the climate crisis just like the pollution of the ocean but also as weakly out more and more current it's rich bio diversity so animals are pushed together much more frequently than they would be because you know billions in habitat and animals

are pushed into shreds the contact with humans some a democrat rating simply becomes we have been great at their homes so yeah this is definitely an important part of the. seasons. in one of the movies the chicago conference you spoke at in 1986 was on forest destruction and instead that 90 percent of chimpanzees were killed in the 1980 s. it seems like an enormous sum what does it feel like in 2020 talking about deforestation. well it's just going on and you know it's one of the things that a con terribly concerned parent intensity o.e.m. programs for reforestation and protecting the existing forests will have biodiversity and that's where it impacts the the zoonotic diseases so why do you

think a pandemic that is made everyone conscious of that connection i suppose you would hope why is it there's been no call for companies associated with forest destruction were no call for them to be shut down after this pandemic is if not over at least has less of an impact on our daily lives. well there were there that will be there might be i mean i've been fighting to stop the forest station and again we come back to probably because an awful lot of that the forest station the scene with other habitats too is very poor people and they're going to cut down their arms treaties in that desperation to grow food to feed their families so you know we also have to take into consideration the growing human population world line 8 and. i learned in the rainforest how everything is interconnected and just

doing one piece of it isn't enough but luckily different n.g.o.s tackle different aspects of it global environmental problem how can the forest i have this very strong feeling are great spiritual power. it was the kind of feeling that i sometimes have in one of the of cathedrals where people have been to my shrimp yeah after year after year. you are arguably. really important when it came to stopping animal experimentation basically chimpanzee experimentation with all the talk about is of vaccines and actually they're often talking about on the rocks or university of a chimp a dino virus that they're injecting with corona virus as i understand it into pigs well how do you see the role of our animal animal experimentation in vaccine research. well quite honestly by talk to the people who are

doctors and scientists who are coming up against animal experimentation you know the stillest work on mice and rats and dogs and even chimpanzees are not so like us they were if they were thought to be the answer but finding vaccines and cures are still there they can be infected mother animals couldn't they didn't develop the symptoms that week one of the labs i visited i was shown into this room with 4 tims down each side 5 foot by 5 foot k. to 7 foot high and the 1st from was called jo-jo. it was very handsome male been alone for 15 years or so and i looked into his eyes and i was thinking of the combi chimpanzees lying their soft ground making me feel nests grooming each

other and he being there alone with time and so tears began trickling under my mask and he reached out a gentle finger and wiped the tears away the way ahead is to work harder and harder an alternative to using any animals in medical experimentation and you know there's a lot of doctors writing from atlanta was going to conferences about it and huge strides has been made there's many many ways of experimenting with excel tissue and organ tissue which do not involve torturing animals the problem very often is that to get some new drugs on the market you have to show the powers that be whatever organization it is that you have done experiments on animals dr jane goodall stop you there more from one of the world's most famous conservationists after this short break.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. an entire village in alaska. if another country trying to wipe out an american town . we do everything in our power to protect the. water they are skipping climate change is the same threat right now alaska seems some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world we lost about 30 feet. 35 feet of

ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring. in the east the river is 35 closer to our own than was for i don't think were a part of the earth from. welcome back i'm still here with world renowned conservationist dr jan goodall well on big pharmaceutical companies maybe on big fossil fuel companies. actually who's written about chimpanzees in a different context he's been talking about this apparent dissonance between the c.e.o.'s of these sorts of. companies and the children and grandchildren of the

c.e.o.'s of these companies tell me about roots and shoots and how. somehow education can create children or help children understand i don't know what their parents are doing is going to create more pandemics in the future. absolutely more pandemics and more destruction of the environment and actually stealing their future it works rich interests began in 1991 and it began with 12 high school students in tanzania it's now in 65 countries it's growing all the time it has members in kindergarten university in everything in between and may choose projects themselves but want to help people one help animals one to help the environment because of this everything being in the connected and changing world as we speak they are we're listening to their very small they're being empowered and we're

helping them to express what they feel and they are learning about the kind of things that we never learnt to count because they want problems back then. i had the idea of luton 2 speakers i found so many young people who'd lost hope and said there was nothing they could do about the future of the planet so i try and inspire as many children of all ages as i can to take action and roots and shoots somehow create certain values and we found that many what i call alumni the people being true the roots and shoots program. they they you know they come up to me in china for example and same of course we care about the environment we were in roots and shoots in primary school and i don't know for a fact that sometimes a child will influence the behavior. aren't all grandparents because they told me

so what about the idea of it say no less than the girlfriend of the british prime minister carrie simmons of the into a thing i understand about roots and shoots will politicians really react to. speeding up processes that will stop climate change i mean by 20 what is that within 100 years we expect to have no rain forest whatsoever on earth at the current rate at the current rate and that's why it's so desperate to stop it and we still have time we have this window of time and i think my greatest hope is partly the resilience of nature you know around gandhi in 1990 all the trees that had been there had gone and now they're back again because we work with the people alleviate their property and so on but. so their children you know they're not they're not making demands they're showing example i don't believe you can

change anybody's heart whether it's a parent who's just a you know ordinary person an ordinary job or somebody who's a c e o or a politician you care to reach the heart is no good arguing with that with the mind because soon as you begin arguing people get defensive they want to protect their point of view and they're thinking all the time about how they're going to refute a airing but if you tell stories stories that region of the heart you may not know at the time the difference that you make but you sometimes find out later. what about working with big business on environmental projects we had no less than an advisor to prince charles on this program who told us that he was appalled by green washing at top fossil fuel companies of course you have a history with conoco who funded your projects what would you advise environmentalist today about whether they should team up with big fossil fuel

companies perhaps with flowers on their labels and logos. yes well i think the 1st thing to do is to investigate the practices that that company and what percentage of money they're putting into developing alternative clean renewable energy is a reason that we went with conoco is because back then before they were true they were bought out by 1st dupont and then today phillips but back then they were the most environmentally friendly oil company on the planet and i think i sat down and i thought ok but i think this thing out and i thought to myself here's a company that's trying to do it as well as they can and i'm flying i'm driving i'm using electricity i'm spending money on the projects that products at these oil

companies are selling so it's very hypocritical if you need one that's trying to do better and you say no i'm not going to take your money except might look might make you look better than you are as hypocritical so my met my my advice is really find out what that company is doing i mean some of them totally mushy and it's awful but some of them really are putting a lot of money into alternative energy and treat planting then take money from them and what bring them to make things worse just now i work partly this some activist with say have a time for that environmental ism is over as the climate emergency becomes more obvious extinction rebellion the group the international group that is. in the lead arguably with fighting climate change they were put on a tear or list here perhaps using tactics perhaps using weapons of their are

enemies what's your reaction to extinction rebellion as it plans demonstrations around the world virtually or in situ during the pandemic. well i think i honestly think that you know demonstrations have a wrote play nonviolent demonstrations and to use force has happened in an nenni countries against peaceful protest is shocking i mean people need to express their views and i think when enough people as an excuse to rebellion do take to the streets when children take to the streets you know it must spark some new awareness in some people and the way you can understand that they threaten the profits the so-called shareholder value the with all the externalities of the accountants call them those in power are clearly fearful of these demonstrations and arguably the

the hope that you speak of i think you're writing a book on hope at the moment. well that's absolutely true and you know the consumer and the voter in at least in some countries are really have a powerful role or we again you've got to say. people living in poverty don't have much choice but providing you are reasonably well off if you don't like what a company guns go by it's cut outs it's again hypocritical to say oh the way you make all your your stuff you know is totally environmentally unfriendly or stealing our children's future and then you go and spend a lot of money by never that although as you say. many people do not have arguably the 99 percent do not have the choice as austerity has kicked in in western economies since 28 you know it's going to get worse but that is the big problem also you started off with education that's important too because unless people

understand the dynamics of a problem they can't make ethical choices coming and you know i found in china actually people who believed that elephants shouldn't that at tusks if we you know what we say are that can't be true but if you've never seen an elephant you've never been taught anything about wild animals why shouldn't they ship that to us so you know again it's education from sometimes a very basic level that helps people who can make a difference to make a difference when i was 10 years old i had them train i will go to africa i will live with wild animals and i will write books about them everybody laughed at me you want just a girl girls don't know that sort of thing. but my mother she said if you really want to do this you're going to have to work off

a hard but don't give up and i know you've emphasized hope with action in the past you spoke with james baker the secretary of state for ronald reagan do you think you'd speak today with donald trump and secretary of state pompei o about why they should link here is shaking your head why they should understand the link between the environment and the destruction of the u.s. economy because of her own of ours now i mean everybody's told i'm not i would to be honest i just wouldn't waste my time talking to people like that because they don't want to be you don't want to be if you want to change. the minute you see when you talk about consumer advocacy in the way that you just have i'm sure your probably aware of k. street in washington the lobbying street how can you fight the lobbying of fossil

fuel industries that are against what you say i mean obviously the jane goodall n.g.o.s are trying their best to educate tens of thousands of children can they make the difference compared to billions of dollars of public relations money advertising money and arguable backhanders to politicians. well right now i suppose the answer is probably no but just because it seems you know unlikely doesn't mean you stop trying because if you give up and you'll never succeed and i still believe we have a window of time all we can do all of us is the very best that we can and try and get a browns well a critical mass of people who understand that yes we need money to live but it goes wrong when we limit the money and i mean read orleans economists who talk about the real cost of food on other materials that are coming in from other countries

and when well it was sort of again it's the consumer who doesn't understand i mean why is this product cheap it's cheap because of factory farming which is horribly cruel to animals and absolutely shocking it's cheap because of child slave labor a slave chops and really not paying the right amount of money for what we buy in the west to brown to a very large extent so it's like i say if we get all of these things you know they're all interwoven and no one organization can solve everything or we can do this work as hard as we can to change just many minds as possible and to have hope that the many minds will change the way things operate because after this coronavirus if we go back to business as usual which is the goal of so many of our

politicians around the world today that horrible swing to the far right then then this window of time that we have to create change it's closing all the time dodging good off thank you both ever want to your favorite the last season we're back for a new season of the fair right show. but you don't just mean to enjoy that because . it's a crime and sounds they say. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in alaska where is that to say come on i'll show you what's the reason for any type

of enhanced u.s. military presence in this area russia. what is it suddenly about the south china sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have nuclear weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so that's why we're going to drill down on the story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly it's time to do news again. no shots.

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