by the u.c.l.a. school of laws code 19 behind bars data project and john hopkins the nobel coronaviruses now infecting american prison inmates at a rate more than 5 times higher than the overall u.s. population and that's climbing in fact at the federal correctional institution in c. go bill texas the federal bureau of prisons reports that more than 1300 of the approximately 1750 prisoners held there have tested positive for code 19 these brutal statistics of lead to multiple uprisings among the incarcerated populations across the united states just last week in georgia violence broke out of where state prison where the atlanta journal constitution reports that quote tensions were running high due to cope with 192 people incarcerated at the prison have died of the disease while 22 inmates and 32 employees have tested positive. so with covert 19 on fire inside us prisons exposing even more horrors of our prison industrial

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have overcrowding lack of proper medical care or unsanitary living conditions were already major issues in the u.s. prison system how is covert 19 exacerbated these existing issues dr perry your thoughts. well if you mentioned it there were deluded to that part in. that. where it's really product. areas. are. areas. there are also. areas people have little recourse and so we need to look or examine the conditions in prisons in and we need to socially distance people and create the kind of conditions that enable people to thrive and so. the short of it is that prisons are in the main places that that are conducive for virus spread. and other illnesses. and

james here in washington d.c. a family of an inmate recently died from cobain while being held in north carolina was an informed of his death by the bureau of prisons until over 100 days after it occurred we talk about coping in prisons we often only focus on the guards the staff and inmates but how has this crisis affected the families and communities surrounding the u.s. prison system. well thank you for that question and as a son of a father who currently serving the sentence in a georgia state prison i've known too well what that impact does my father got colvin and see we were not able to know really know what the status of your health was you know legal counsel was not able to visit these inmates we have complaints of people not even being able to get the kind of reputation. accustomed to serving time so you know this situation is exacerbated. i was just on the wire many of ways which is what you mean izing just i frankly just and so there

must be action taking action taken out not to say not ours but also to say come on your music will come to the prison system in this country you know has been has been damaged and broken for a long time that's why i agree with a lot of people that say you know we need to abolish the prison system as we know would rebuild it from the ground up find the turn it into a place of reform rather than incarceration but i also want to talk about something else because gentlemen if we can't keep covert from spreading like wildfire in a lock in their own secure environment like a bubble potentially how can we begin to expect to contain covert in our schools james i want to start. well what we have to look at really what this disease is actually doing and i honestly believe that we have done ourselves a disservice when. or not honest from a state and national level as to whether the risk factors involved in this

situation if we as a community programs us economy in money in commerce over the actual real lives of people who live in our communities big we can actually defeat this disease this virus so as we as it relates to school and we talk about opening up colleges and universities we talk about open you go well i'm a very nursery you know what we're talking about is not the actual helping people but rather how can we keep money flow into people's pockets how can we keep the bottom line up in margins heuer in such a basket and we don't lose billions of dollars for me economic standpoint but also as a as they are more so the 1st step is actually our time was lousy not money but in the 2nd part of actually make sure that people have access to you know resources dr perry or what are your thoughts on that i mean the schools even stand a chance if we can even keep covert from from turning our prisons into even worse nightmares when they already are. well 1st of all i want to cosign.

double a.c.p. president said my father also he died in prison and i just want to be clear that the. structural racism that actually put us in position to be in prison the structural racism that robs school districts of the resources needed to protect children come from the same racist street and so no we won't be able to protect children and communities because one that the federal government have not passed a spending bill that enables school states and school districts to purchase the p.p.s. to socially distance in in classrooms and on buses to provide the technology so when you do have to shut down a school they can do remote learning and so and they not been able to get those

resources to schools because they simply do not care about black people and so for me it's clear that this is an epidemic we'll have more epidemic so there are always some type of tragedy it will repeat itself time and time again until we sure are eradicate the structural racism that continues to put black people in in a vulnerable position. powerful and very true and my heart goes out to you i also lost my mom in a prison as well he died from cancer. nearly 100000 kids 100000 kids in america have been affected with public 19 in just the last 2 weeks in july states like georgia are refusing a math mandate for students even though experts like dr anthony 1000 recommend all schools mandate universal mask wearing our schools across the united states only way to handle in person learning at the. stage in the pandemic or do you think

there is an alternative and that since you know we mentioned georgia i'll start with you james. well i think that's a very difficult question because one we as community we don't need the government to tell us what's right or wrong we have a state we have a nation that has not done the right thing but we at the community level we know was guess what so regardless if government mandates we mandate mask or not we need to tell our people to make sure that they wear a mask that's one of the reasons why i issued an executive order myself as a state president in which all of our members all of our supporters all of our friends and family all we're mass when they're on public because i don't need the governor of the state of georgia to tell us what is in the best interest of our people if we are on the community in the grassroots level we know what it takes to say. i'm done waiting for. government officials to do was in best interest of our people in this you know more than ever to save our peoples not

because we're going to not. yet. known schools are not ready. you see the schools done don't even know what day to open schools it's endemic the lack of preparedness that schools and school districts have the congress had it for 5 months to prepare for this 5 months and it's almost as if the pandemic occurred a few weeks ago and so intil schools have the resources to open safely and meet safety standards as well as educational standards they will not be ready. with pointed out earlier that as school students congregate in crowded spaces there since these facilitating the spread those kids go back to their homes and spread.

the disease of the illness more and so kids don't live in schools they live in communities schools are not some kind of bubble in which they are sheltered from the rest of the community and so we need to protect the community and the schools and till they are. returned safely i would not advise a parent to send their child to a place that is simply not ready to take on on on kids safely. that's a great point you bring up and very quickly i just want to ask ask you both a bit at the end of all this is that what what do you believe believe colbert has truly shown as far as the truth of the american system whether it's schools or just a story i think you know you guys a bit more going in the trenches for a long time i mean realistically colbert is not just exposing that the idea of american exceptionalism was always a myth to begin with dr perry you can start with

a little bit of time left. yeah i was going to say that it really revealed the structural racism that is present in our country black people are dying at a higher rate and can speak. not because of cove it. attacks black people but it it attacks the conditions in which we live and those conditions were set in generations ago and they're set every day and so racism is the preexisting condition that we need to get rid of not and not blame it on asthma or diabetes and all these other things that it's structural racism that is making us vulnerable structural racism that it will destroy the resources needed to make our schools say the structural racism that puts black people in prison at higher rates and keeps them those conditions unsafe and so all this is doing is

revealed playing the person issues policy that attacks black people every day in this country. and not had that it's not just you know i and i'm the president in the us we don't get it but it's not just black people this is displaying it well in many ways what black you have known for a while to me is that the institution the empower of america western civilization here is not here if he cares more about our work if i see me in actual law and so we talk about. all of us when we talk about the unemployment insurance benefits they're not going to talk about us yes literally becoming bankrupt because the people that are in leadership care more about their bottom line unwilling elections than actually lifting ones it's people we have a system that's committed more to the preservation of power. it's

a privilege it's been people's lives in so that is reflected in racism that's like i said see that's reflected. in the mist it's a case of the negro is so on so what do you go down a lot. outside of james this powerful stuff but i hate to cut you off got to go to break but excellent excellent stuff mr james wood on dr andrea perry thank you so much for coming on and educating our audience always a pleasure having you both on and the good work that you're doing thank you so much . all right as we go to break up over there you can also start watching knocks on demand for the brand new portable t.v. which is available on all platforms and coming up the battle over public versus private health care is magnified in the time of night stay tuned to watching the hawks.

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heightened access to quality health care has never been available to everyone. your ability to pay determines the quality of health care you receive and your outcomes add race to the mix and things tend to get a lot worse politicians have been grappling with how best to serve america's health care needs for over 5 decades now notably hillary clinton 1st lady in the ninety's attempted and failed to bring hillary care and universal health care package to fruition providing health care for everyone with loud it is a big government takeover in 1903 fast forward 220000 president barack obama's affordable care act attempted to pick up where hillary care left off obamacare passed and health insurance became work festivals for millions of people meanwhile medicaid expansion allowed for several low income individuals to access health care for the 1st time but the ac a 2 didn't create a health care haven. private insurance companies pulled out prices went up the cost

of lifesaving pharmaceutical drugs like insulin are well beyond the reach of most pocketbooks wool medicine is on life support and community clinics across the country are closing rapidly and have been for the past 12 years all of this meanwhile the racial disparities in care continue to grow and cope with 19 late america's health care crisis bayer everything from overcrowded hospitals lack of access to testing wait times over a month for test results show complete chaos and few people trust the system would a single payer option be better is universal healthcare or medicare for all a better route is government even equipped to handle the challenges of america's growing health care needs and infrastructure a recent opinion piece by libertarian commentator hannah cox provides a few insights and joins us now to share more welcome him. or him out your piece new york's bill your to use emergency hospitals as another reason to distrust government health care is

a scathing critique of the state's response to coburn 19 arguably you promote removing government from the business of health care what that look like and how with the private sector deliver better service. well i think one thing that we're seeing during code 19 is just how intertwined government already is in our health care system right from the get go we saw government start removing certificate of need laws certain deregulating start taking away some regulations that they had around telling health services and things that were actually preventing people from accessing faster cheaper and better health care the competition we haven't had at the national level yet it's one of those things in place to begin with it actually make it harder to get good health care things slow down the process if they make it less accessible which should never have those things in place and as we've seen states try to approach the massive operates especially new york city where i was in march and april during the height of their outbreak we've seen them catastrophic leigh sales and actually trying to get adequate health care to people who need it. absolutely atrocious what happened in new york city and i think the only reason we

haven't seen that replicate in other states is fortunately you haven't had instance of populations but i think that what happened there gave me every reason to fear if the government ever running my health care we saw patients and you want to get beds we sell trucks with bodies being put into then they didn't have space to deal with the people we heard about things called bathroom codes that where people were waking up without units and not knowing where they were and trying to go and get help or going to the bathroom in coding of people who wouldn't have survived had they actually had adequate health care and so we saw a government it's across the board i do think if we were true a lot of the regulations personally if we were to get government out of the system we were going on the crony people out of the system we could start to bring down the cost and actually try to buy a health care system for people that brings the macaques back down to a simple supply and demand type of functionality you know there's a big difference between you know capitalism and crony capitalism which is you know kind of turning capitalism on its head but we can look at the private sector still failed in many ways too in the code situation because cobra test result delays are

primarily a private sector failing with qwest diagnostics and lab corps being the test of priscilla's responsible multiple players and bragman taishan in the private sector exacerbate administrative burdens and costs how to be used by x. you know jive with your narrative on private sector strength in handling america's health care crisis can the private sector without government help actually handle this when they couldn't even get the testing right. right but we think of the private sector fail to handle it you know what do we mean our private sector we certainly don't mean a free market sector because that's not what we have even the private sector still has to jump through hoops they have to wait for the f.d.a. to approve things in the process we saw at the very beginning and weren't able to adequately start developing the testing there was a lot of give and take over who could not the tests what kind of tests were appropriate how many could administer them and they went back and forth not really slowed down the process of the rollout and so even though it might be private companies responsible for it still have

a great relationship that are enduring invariability to fully explain and address the needs of the market so i think that when we're talking about what would a private system look like we have to remember we haven't had a private system in this country for at least a 100 years we've had a system that it's overly run by government and even when you have private actors trying to do their best the consul have to jump through the suit and again and i think we've got to go back to one of the most important thing to incomes or health care system which is that government is intervening into the health care market or it's brands it is not doing this willy nilly it's doing it for people who come in and pay a lot of money they lobby their friends in government because they want to protect their interests they want to block competition they want to ensure that they make the most money and that they're the only option in the game and it works in new york city they have an overflow hospital only 79 patients they spent over $50000000.00 and counting on this overflow center for $79.00 patients and one of the reasons they couldn't see more patients was that ambulances companies there had special contracts with government hospitals to where they had to take patients to

the overflowing hospitals even the city beds were right there at the overflow hospitals that's the kind of cronyism you get under government where they are padding the pockets of a few selected companies and so it's to the disadvantage of all of us and hannah we know that several countries have successful government run universal health care systems that boast lowering overall health care costs lowering administrative costs and creating an overall healthier society through better preventative care. like australia canada switzerland and the u.k. they've all handled covert 19 better than the united states doesn't this make the case for government run health care. i don't think it makes a case for government healthcare but i am going to agree with you that our health care system needs to be totally redone it's a hot mess it's embarrassment makes a mockery of our foundational beliefs and it really is a bad company to claim to be capitalists this isn't how it free market would function and it really needs to be addressed i don't think it makes a case for government run health care because even in those countries while they

boast about their health care and 2 while it's maybe cheaper on its face they also think i can't bring you we can't get beds for basic surgeries when they need it we have people coming across the border from canada here to get operations done and so it's you know in what capacity do they have great healthcare systems that you can see a general practitioner pretty quickly and cheaply maybe yeah but as far as other real medical needs i don't know that it actually measures up and furthermore our country is just not comparable countries like australia or england that have you know the population of a couple of our states so i think when we think about the national federal government health care for 360000000 people that terrifies me i've never seen the federal government handle anything well for 360000000 people and something is as dire as health care should not be left up to them i think it best we should look at state purchase to what we can do and again i think if we were to actually make some of these changes we'd have under covert permanent like expanding tele health like getting rid of certificate of need laws why should companies have to go in and

argue against their competitors to add another health care bad or to add another piece of equipment when they need it we need to get rid of these things that make it harder to obtain the actual health care services themselves and when it's harder to claim the services obviously the price goes up and i know you know manual we will probably always argue because i do believe that health care is a human right that we shouldn't have to pay for and that there is a good system before i'm on now but i do also enjoy the fact that you come out and want to give voice to people that don't hold the same group. as i do so i want to say thank you so much for coming on and being that voice today pleasure always a pleasure having you on thank you very much for having me all right well everybody and that is our show for you today and remember in this world we are definitely not told that we are loved and so i tell you all i love you i am i robot girl and i mean keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody.

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