7 i tell 68 neither are anywhere instead like as a light on a taper and then suddenly in 1970 this fire flew emerged to hong carr and scientists fiske of or to their whore that rather than being incubated in a peg or heaven band been car infected with several strains for the poor it had charged directly from birth 3 have else that's mike davis speaking in 20 or 5 on the threat of a flu type pandemic heading in the other broadwell's his warnings are arguably not taken seriously by policymakers think tanks and politicians as 25 book the monster at our door is now called the monster enters with a brand new preface and he joins me now from los angeles mike welcome to going on the ground you've been on well i understand just take us through how you came to write the new preface as the full horror of the pandemic became apparent the book you original book was. published right out to the parade in 2003 i think i wrote it in 2000 by this is avian flu and

at the time it looked like who was imminently faced with a pandemic flu that b.s. disastrous is the 1980 the spanish flu it was warning about the emergence of bird flu variant old age 5 been one. which had an extraordinarily high rate but since the book was written several new varieties of influence a equal is. troubling you have arisen in the number in limited scale infected humans the threat of an influenza pandemic. is deadly is 1899000 remains absolutely minute and zooming as men discuss during a pandemic is the. importance of developing

a universal flu vaccine their attacks the in very in their area parts of the service in of influenza and could give a sim unity from every poor even in influenza his we should realise that this is not a pandemic it's the beginning of an age of pandemics. that researchers in china face at the institute. that's come under attack from president truman. had genocide mission research and discovery of the reservoir of the more than $350.00 per pervert $500.00 varieties of viruses all with the potential to china to mammal other mammals and eventually humans. in china know whose knees most the largest food merrill's in the world. fly their bats 1500 species about 200 is

species have have been studied to some extent or another so there's a whole universe of trona viruses out there as well as many other kinds of viruses that. are part of the natural reserve war and it is corporate law again an expansion of clear cut in and agriculture breakdown of barriers between a sunni. animals in the rain forests around the world as we destroy use rain forest we're ever increasing the possibility of transmission of viruses and the possibility of new pandemics and you kind of imply that there's no cover up when no one else was conceived as concerned as you were the information you say was out there similarly when hoping to or now we live in the age of coronaviruses plural

because why because there's no cover up but there's a structural well one of the things the troubled ministration did and in this country the attack on. research on potentially pandemic diseases and in general one public health started the day or 2 is not your asian is he defunded. in american sponsored program there was an early warning system through the emergence of novel lyra says in diseases in china and southeast asia. he also of course wired the earth team on the national security council that obama had created in the aftermath of the. new blow of deadly ebola happy demick in. western africa are to deal with

a pandemic which it was universally agree. was in the needs threat the united states and other countries i mean the warnings about this since. the beginning of the millennium have been constant the planet. has been kind of their reports have been dance and it but it's suddenly united states it's in your country and. most countries of western europe are always planning came to nona was a largely ignored and now in my country. president tribe has who he says are all on which is a medical spokesman name scott apple as he's a parks news commentator who exactly parrots the line that the tribe in ministration expresses that

a man has probably useless schoolchildren don't transmit the earth and to make the test change should be limited to only people in critically endangered groups trump obvious he says things that he says off of the united states doing better and he certainly is doing better than that the united kingdom on deaths per capita well in the case of britain i mean i think. it is now obvious that a deliberate strategy of herd immunity. was squalid that the johnson government. deliberately decided to minimize damage to. the economy by letting the disease essentially spread and the catastrophic failure of the u.k. government. to come immediately to the aid of people in senior homes and.

nursing moms nyquist same thing as news sweden which explicitly. herd immunity and behind this there is a kind of. would i would consider an ominous new nazi cancer germs or were told lies unworthy of light and the whole idea that some part of the population is sacrifice that will for the greater good of the economy through quite a diabolical there well obviously we invite the swedish ambassador. to london and on the program sweden did say that they have made some mistakes so that it has any nazi activity and as far as johnson they moved away from her the immunity and there's presumably going to be a public inquiry here as to what exactly british policy was but more systemically since you mentioned the economy rather than just talk about the preventative

elements now we have that pandemic. is. we to expect pandemics because of capitalism we've now seen. how rapidly the virus can be transmitted around the world but the point is that this resides a very old debate about global health and one side of it was focus and it was represented for instance the 19th twenty's and thirty's by the rockefeller foundation which was the largest financier of disease prevention of the global scale and within the british empire and the rockefeller paradigm was not areaway campaign sargon as pacific at the journal or as civic bacteria that. passage of the nearest side repeating where i think it is something whole social medicine which said that attacking the

pathogen alone without attacking the poverty of the population the lack of primary care would always be a put side of the whole and this is could not be more true than. today we see around the world and not only in court the teens who use public help pages. have been ravaged to realign its generation but in the united states and united kingdom were health care and public health authorities. separate back their pure attempt particularly out to the 2008. economic crisis since visible and most here in. the east asia. has been an exception. just some except for is there is reasons for it in the atlantic not always and we now see the price paid by conservative fiscal

policies in a new liberal economics so you really think that it's comparable thing in fact that to the 1918 spanish flu famously. spread through the trenches it's comparable to post 2008 infrastructural incapacitation after the bank bailout well the 1918 example in ologies series concent way but in 189090 new jersey people know world died of insolence and more than 20 orian died in india and in western india is the result of food elite grain picture and other policies that exported massive amounts. in ingrained just feed the

indian armies in the field through war. it was associated so food prices rose. and india the same time there was a drought in a bad cholera epidemic sooty had this huge population. or people with compromised immune systems and i am argue that in sacks today we have to recognize its immunological standpoint well nearly to humanity's in the u.k. or the united states maybe if if the argue lation. is immunologically compromised it's not just because cancers and diseases but also because of malnutrition co-exist scene sections like hiv but in poor countries in sub-saharan africa and south asia and many parts of merican.

the majority of the population is 75 percent. is in this position be gender are true. and demi i should say that the un special rapporteur who talked about increasing malnutrition up to $28.00 in britain have he said it was a political decision the british government denied that completely michael stopping that more from mike davis after this prank. call. was.

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cash in the 3 different. oh good this is a good start well we have our 3 banks all set up here maybe something in europe something in america something overseas in the cayman islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in the kleptocracy we just have to give him a call and say hey i'm ready to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did well we've got a national dream watch for max and for stacy old beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury automobile again for max you know what money laundering is highly illegal. much keyser of course. welcome back i'm still here with the american scholar who for costa global zoonotic lee transmitted pandemic more than a decade in the hoff before coronavirus mike davis you say that in the united

states where more people are being killed and the other the nation with the most deaths you believe the john bolton trumps that former national security adviser is key to understanding why pandemic planning went so badly. well bowman's decision was to reorganize endemic preparedness to fire the crack team that obama had put in place he wanted everything focused on on bio warfare but the larger phenomenon of course is trumps absolute obsession with destroying and dismantling their everything that. the previous president if put in. but in place remember this regime came into power valley to destroy the fordable care or obamacare and is constantly trying to do things like take the budget earth

centers for disease control. if you look at this internationally you see that the media agencies traditionally lead agencies in disease have been marginalized in the view issue is how to totally marginal who all is center produces control of the united states has had a totally marginal role in the european union where there exists a protocol. for countries to cooperate in responding to transnational disease or soon as totally new or to expose the trouble ministration would say about the cat had many critics left and right and that has many critics as well. of of course but the fundamental problem here with the show

is in structural this financial country started pay their dues their w.h.o. has become totally dependent. on aid coming from a handful of governments and from their former cerebral and history and from a few philanthropy well let's just go to the big pharmaceutical companies because in this book you do talk about the role of private health insurance and big pharmaceutical companies as being maligned act as i mean it's this pandemic way is that well the big pharmaceutical industries. which are always represented as being the main saved towards earth to disease the heroic innovators to earth new vaccines in the end drugs they become anything but they're in the case united states and through $950.00 s. . leading force the development of antibiotics for instance was actually

armed forces the u.s. army there is an important state rule in other words in the development of new pharmaceutical treatments put under big pharma. the the the profits are made in developing heart medicines or serious fruit erectile disfunction and old men like like me not in developing a new generation of out of batteries and above all not in an eye virals in vaccines which have to develop may only be used to. once so big pharma his coat back massively on on research and spends far more on average tyson and it just doesn't take any leadership in developing. jugs and bank c.d.'s that are not highly probable but absolutely necessary for societies

or home as you know they do devalue that they say they're doing their best they're involved in a new super national initiative against coronavirus just very briefly i did mention private health insurance you see that is symbiotic with us in october of last year . the council of economic advisers issued a report on oswald and demi. because this is already seen as is imminent in it they point out and advise the president that big pharma will be incapable of meeting. the challenge of a pandemic prove precisely the absence of a strong profit motive in developing a nano by rules and in back scenes this is would every big pharma says essentially bit of knowledge by by the government a new coors light in egypt. critics of big pharma private health care

a court is it's lead to new reasons of americans tens of millions of americans without health care and that number has dramatically increased to poor is as people have lost their jobs enjoyed base. health insurance and i think this sanders campaign really sent to skinny was absolutely correct to put. universal health care ridge at the forefront of the campaign and then is actually massive support of you may think it's a minority position. which if you're on the news but survey out the survey shows that a to 70 percent of americans just want some form of single payer. health care which of course it was or course by rejected he wanted but in the book you also talk about the c.d.c. is this not just all private bad public the c.d.c.

with such a reputation around the world for disease control in the united states and around the world they rejected the w h o developed covert testing kit that shocked you. yeah it is it is shocking they also had another alternative which was the other test kit consists of sensually 3 separate ters and they could eliminate the flawed 3rd tears and so had a viable so why would they have done the well that's a very interesting question they were defending ter the problem with the chairs was it was actually contamination in their own production lines in georgia the c.d.c. totally. loses and losing through 4 weeks of testing allowed the disease to grow exponentially so and marge who started off with a handful of tested cases by the end of march

it was increasing exponentially or over. there were several 100000 cases units continued to herd to grow adding that the c.d.c. is obviously we invite them on and there they say they're doing everything by the board you also actually talk about the fame thing happening with the immunity test i understand but the p.p.a. catastrophe you blame jared and vice president pat. yes. and in many others earn including. tony fauci who has true liberal americans in fact are majority americans because the the good doctor on this part talking of truth so long as it's now see back at the end of 0 year it was showing people

absolutely no need so where were mass in the lead medieval samus because. of the drastic shortage of protective gear through hospital were through his issues in nurses but the point is he lied to the american public and this initial publicity campaign to discourage people from going out and trying to buy while in mass is said to her long lasting or near in very bitter effect well thought out to fatty obviously a hero to liberal media played by brad pitt in saturday night live with the deny anything he did was against clinical procedure and best interests of the american people what do you make of the fact they don't no one seems to really be talking about something like factory farming we had dr rob wallace he was telling us about the relationship between factory farming and coronavirus why do you think that's

just not the subject of debate about when it comes to coronavirus in public discourse in nato nations. that of course is in part made in the largest for the the problem with the democratic party and the app measures it takes around issues of public health in the origination of epidemic. diseases because instead the endemic threat can be kind of triangulated 2 to 3 things one is factory farming the urbanization super reproduce ation of animals that maximizes. the probability of the viral evolution and then transmission the 2nd is the old still destruction of the natural or it's there who traditionally isolated us from these enormous by rumors of

wars. and wild animal populations but the 3rd part and the most important has been the constant reduction of public in basic elp budgets. across the world i mean many african countries only have a beer or some once of public service some why sierra leone not at all which is why the ball spread so rapidly a few years ago the in in western africa so each each point on their trying will have to see each side has to be. addressed and into we see that in reinvesting in basic healthcare. it's the absolute. the purty. we're going to see. future appeared to mix. in

a sense repeat the pattern they had seen so not the solution they were a weapon the solution how so lie on each of these 3 points of in socialized a ripple through the destruction truck wars in this investment in basic you know just very briefly america since you are speaking to us from los angeles and here are the greatest chronicler of it sir history i better ask even though tens of thousands upon tens of thousands are being killed in your country by covert what you are made of in this incarnation of the civil rights struggle of black lives matter protests raging across the united states look after bernie sanders in-session to joe biden. tens of thousands of young activist ideal words earth were basically lurked in the desert the. toll the bully all you should do is going out there any people the militant vote in

this rebellious generations since was saved by clients matter. and. it's been a. movement i can't really think of there are in terms of its rapid development who could have we that the question basic fundamental well i should. about all these thing in the need to please a. it would have been put on international agenda and you know to look for those who are seen on once in impossible so the black lights natter protests in addition to reminding us that civil rights have been under relentless attack for the republicans. for 2 decades or to create a template for resistance and a far broader scale one of the things that i've been most concerned is the rule of

unions in. protesting developing a strategy to run. in a dangerous conditions. this essential work force in the health care workers is absolutely outrageous the other day a. report from the nurses. united national nurses you sounded one 3rd of the nurses nicklin 3 still alive you know access to this project. here they should add to the end i need on my. math so months later on stage months into. memory that program unit is yet to be sold well donald trump says he's protecting the most vulnerable mike davis thank you that fit for the show will be back on wednesday 47 yesterday the cia station chile received guidance from black to establish contact with military offices to overthrow democratically elected president salvador allende in

911 washington back a deal that could save and join the other grabbing at your credit sounds about the threat of a facebook. problem drugs don't always come from unscrupulous dealers but from pharmacies to every state in the united states we've seen very sharp increase in the number of people seeking treatment for addiction to prescription opioids invited america under the banner of medicine persisting with the pain but instead of trying to wean him off though she just goes after dose after dose after dose and really became his drug dealer so who is to blame patients doctors manufacturers all the governments of.

in the headlines this wonder morning moscow and berlin trade accusations over the condition of providence russian opposition activist alexina valmy russia questions why the german side is yet to reveal key information and made poisoning. the. protest against police brutality in the u.s. show no signs of easing elsewhere we look at how the unrest is helping to bring huge profits to america's gun manufacturers. also in the program dozens of social media accounts were washington lobbying firm was suspended for attempting to manipulate elections in venezuela bolivia and mexico. and 2 french schools are already.